Cyrodiil is being made in Morrowind, and it looks so fucking good
I'm hyping so hard
Link: http://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1460264-province-cyrodiil-ii-well-count-from-here/
Download link:http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42155/
Can't fucking wait
Look at those ayleid ruins
This awesome looking tower
Brina Cross Inn
Cyrodiil was a jungle in the time (Era) of Morrowind, like bethesda intended to make but they eventually didn't
Are you telling me no one is hyping besides me?
I am modestly hyped
>>257759337
If this was Skyrim related shit would've been exploding and skyrim fanboys will be all hyping
Faggots
are they going to make use of OpenMW at all?
>>257758009
Not going to lie, this looks really cool but... why didn't they just make this for Skyrim? Looks beautiful regardless though.
>>257759550
They are working on it before the release of OpenMW, but it is compatible with OpenMW
>>257759608
Skyrim fucking sucks mate, modding it is a pain in the fucking ass, most of the skills are gone, the atmosphere an lighting sucks and everything in Skyrim is pure shit, and they would need voice acting, that's why,and Morrowind doesn't require it because it's all text and journal
>>257758009
Cant wait for this and TR to get finished. Then a compatibility patch for both.
>>257759608
Because it's recreating Cyrodiil as it was in the lore, pre-Oblivion. That and Morrowind is much more modder friendly. It's probably going to be the same as Tamriel Rebuilt though, huge wide open spaces and cool looking towns with nothing to do in them.
>modders are trying to put Morrowind in Skyrim
>modders are trying to put Oblivion in Morrowind
Neat.
>>257759608
it's already being made for Skyrim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXT3b2HLtSU
>>257760345
It's not Oblivion's Lord of the Rings Cyrodiil, it's Morrowind's Pocket Guide to the Empire Cyrodiil.
The environments are a lot more appealing than vanilla Oblivion. Is the entire overworld a single cell?
>>257760325
That is true, that's what the website says.
Bethesda was going to make Cyrodiil a lush jungle and very treacherous, but they changed their view, and the modders are working on the original idea Bethesda had and going with lore from the books in Morrowind that talk about Cyrodiil and how it's a jungle and less of a city
They are working on the original designs and concept art bethesda was originally going with(but eventually dropped it)
>>257760428
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXT3b2HLtSU
It just doesn't look right without the speedtrees.
>>257760428
Shit like Morroblivion, Skyblivion, MorroSkywind, whatever, is very silly imo. It's cool to have Morrowind in Skyrim's modern engine for example, but what about mods? Where is my Rise of House Telvanni for Skywind? Building Up Uvirith's Grave? Morrowind Rebirth? etc. You're sacrificing all these great mods to play the game vanilla with good graphics. Plus you have to mod into Skyrim all Morrowind's features, like levitation, spell making, teleportation, etc. No thanks.
I'm pretty hyped for all the landscape mods. There's a group doing Skyrim, too. Years ago some guy was doing Blackmarsh but something happened to his computer and he lost all his work.
>>257760609
I think so yes.
Just like Tamriel Rebuilt
>>257760539
Yes they are working on the Oblivion that Bethesda was originally going to make in the time of Morrowind, but they changed their views for no reason
The modders are using the lore in Morrowind to make Cyrodiil instead of the Cyrodiil in Oblivion
So they are rolling with original designs and concept art, which pretty fucking neat
>>257760717
Forgot the pic
Bethesda always shits on their amazing projects
Whatever happened to the rest of Tamriel Rebuilt?
>add entire continents to the game
>can't add a few animations that represent blocking or dodging attacks
*WHIFF* *WHIFF* *WHIFF* *WHIFF* *WHIFF* OH WAIT, A STATISTIC IS TELLING ME I MISSED, BETTER NOT TRUST MY EYES ANYMORE
>>257760345
>>257759608
Why in the ever-loving name of fuck would any human want to make mods for Skyrim? Why would you want to play Skyrim at all?
Is it actually playable right now, or am I going to have to wait 12 years?
>>257761741
>tips fedora
>>257761741
Because it is fun
>>257761634
Tamriel Rebuilt isn't actually rebuilding Tamriel, just mainland Morrowind. Project Cyrodiil is a different team of modders altogether.
>>257761741
*tips fedora*
>>257761634
They're still working on it.They're remaking Almalexia again. ;_;
>>257761760
They have an alpha of Stirk out right now. Try again in six.
>>257761973
Yeah I know that. I just mean have they released anything new in the past year or so.
Don't forget skyrim: home of the nords
>>257761424
Oh god! that is the first time I hear about the Blackmarsh project, and that is so tragic and sad.
Yes the Skyrim project is called Skyrim: Home of the Nords
Link to the mod if anyone is interested: http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42333/?
>>257761368
On the other hand, I only have to deal with Skyrim's slightly shitty combat as opposed to Morrowind's suicide inducing dice-roll fest.
>>257759142
the only reason they didn't is because speedtree didn't do jungle plants
>>257758009
>hyping
shill please. Nobody on 4chan use that word, it's really blattant when you make those threads.
>>257762194
Oh fuck off, stop using a weapon you're not specced in and you will hit every time. It's basic RPG mechanics.
>>257761663
Are you going to post that Web, you always post or was it deleted or lost or what?
>openMW
>all of morrowind being modded in with tamriel rebuilt
>cyrodiil and skyrim being added in too
morrowind renaissance incoming
There's some good lore being hashed out on their forums too.
>>257762172
the fuck? I though this Home of the Nords mod died years ago. Just checked their forums and it's still alive(ish)
>>257762417
>defending roll mechanics in a real time action RPG
No, fuck off. You can say Morrowind had superior lore, a better world, all that. But the gameplay was absolute dogshit.
Morrowind is a pain with all the graphics extenders and script extenders and stuff so I'm not in mood for modding it extensively before OpenMW.
>>257762475
I'm a little scared about how hyped I am for OpenMW...
In 20 years, all of Tamriel will be playable with Morrowind.
In 40, all of Nirn. Your children will busy modding in sex and futa cocks to fuck in Valenwood.
>>257761368
I have the same problem, when I started using Morroblivion (utter shit, suicide inducing mod) I missed my Morrowind's awesome mods like Tamriel Rebuilt, Tel Uvirith's Rising, Sotha Sil Expanded, and a lot of amazing mods
Nothing is comparable to Morrowind IMO
>>257760038
And Skyrim: Home of the Nords.
Game of the century. I'm hardly joking.
>implying any of those things will ever be finished
>>257762475
I'm so fucking hyped and waiting for the Slayage that is OpenMW and Tamriel Rebuilt and Cyrodiil and Skyrim!!!!
Fuck you for getting me so hyped
>>257758009
So will there be actual quests and story?
I tried tamriel rebuilt and it was just a walking simulator with no quests and generic npc's with no dialogue
>>257762732
I just hope it doesn't get too mainstream. Just someone saying they were working on an android port was enough for other websites to pick up the news and bombard the guy. https://openmw.org/2014/wake-call/
I'm sure the closer it gets to 1.0 the more press it'll get, and the more the developers will have to deal with FIX THE COMBAT and WHY ARE THE ANIMATIONS SO SHIT people complaining that don't understand the point of the project
>>257762641
It's being regularly updated, but they test out the beta first before releasing so it takes some time
>>257762695
I didn't say it wasn't dogshit. It's easily the worst part of the game. But people who complain about "missing" are the same people who put Long Blade in their Major skills and never graduate from the starting dagger they get in the Census office. Yes, Morrowind's combat is shit. But the people who use weapons they are not skilled in and complain when they can't hit anything make it shittier for everyone.
>>257763107
That's because it's in ultrabeta.
>>257763107
>I tried tamriel rebuilt and it was just a walking simulator with no quests and generic npc's with no dialogue
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes3Mod:Tamriel_Rebuilt/Quests
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes3Mod:Tamriel_Rebuilt/Books
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Tes3Mod:Tamriel_Rebuilt/Factions
>>257762740
>In 40, all of Nirn. Your children will busy modding in sex and futa cocks to fuck in Valenwood.
I bet this will happen for real
what is openmw
>>257759337
>>257759543
>morrowind engine
get real
>>257763229
As soon as they hit 1.0 I'm sure Kotaku will do a blog post full of misinformation. That'll be a fun day.
I really do hope someone works out new animations post 1.0, its my biggest wish for OpenMW.
>>257763107
What do you mean? The first town I went to in TR, I found a Thieves Guild and did some cool quests, and just about everyone had something interesting to say. I think it was Hel-something.
>>257763469
https://openmw.org/faq/
>>257763107
When was that?
I'm playing Tamriel Rebuilt and doing alot of quests and npcs have dialogue
Port Telvannis man that is the fucking shit!
>>257759608
The customizability of your character and ability to decorate without havoc tipping everything over like so much spaghetti does make Morrowind very appealing.
I also prefer Morrowinds dialogue system to Oblivion and Skyrim. Written dialogue is so much better for a lore heavy game and it's easier to make alterations to in mid development.
>>257763107
TR does have quite a few quests, you just have to know where to look. The majority of it though is a barren wasteland devoid of anything interesting. I still keep it installed though because it looks cool from Vvardenfell with MGE's distant land.
>>257760717
>Changed their view
You mean they found out they were both too inept and lazy to bother.
>>257763510
Morrowind's engine is superior to Skyrim and Oblivion in moddoing
That is why the Morrowind's modding community is alive flourishing and active
Get real
>>257762475
So they're building the other provinces into the morrowind game?
Will it keep the combat system of vanilla morrowind or does it get changed in some way? I'd love to get into Morrowind again but the combat just bugs me nowadays
>>257763469
Open-source reimplementation of the Morrowind engine, offering support for modern operating systems and rendering techniques out-of-box (ie. making graphics extender and other such third-party programs unnecessary) and offering greater modding capability (in addition to being able to change the engine itself, thanks to source code being available) with the new improved editor.
>>257763963
They're just mods that expand the world, the game itself is the same
>>257763847
Yes that is what I mean, I was just sugar coating it
Oblivion's landscape was bad because the colovia region was too homogenous
Not because it wasn't a jungle
Jungles suck
>>257763917
Alright, enjoy your walking simulator with the other 30 people who will care enough to download it.
>>257763963
Mods baby
There are so many combat mods that enhance the combat
Not that I'm complaining, I'm playing the vannila combat system, not the best yes, but it certainly isn't bad or the worst, so it's playable
>>257764182
The people in this thread that are hyping about these mods are probably more than the people playing Skyrim in 2014, fact.
>>257760717
The hotseat of a continental empire should not be in a jungle. At least not for long. Because they would cut and burn it all down.
What Oblivion lacked was suitable amounts of farms and periphery habitation, not tropical vegetation.
>>257763847
Things would probably be a lot better if Elder Scrolls was exclusive for PC. But Bethesda also want those console dollars to stay in business.
>>257764106
I've become too jaded, video games companies make me angry.
>>257764464
This thread has 75 posts, a quarter of which are the OP and another quarter are dissing Morrowind.
I am too lazy to check Steam, but I bet there are more than 30 people playing Skyrim right now.
That is excluding consoles and pirates.
>>257758009
I'll be hype when it's done.
I've been watching Tamriel Rebuilt for years, but there's no reason for me to be hype for something that only gets major releases every 2-3 years.
Related, looking at that download link,
>Last updated at 19:18, 25 Jun 2012
Anon.
Anon, plz.
>>257758009
>can't fucking wait
>op's face when
>>257764534
The Imperial City is a city but the province should've been a jungle (example: China)
It would've been successful that way
>>257764665
EA, Sony, Bethesda, are all shit now
>>257764148
Oh cool
>>257765235
What would have been successful? The game? It was, sold millions. Would it have been better? Probably not. The problems with the world design in oblivion are not the biome choices.
>>257763635
Do you actually read my mind?
That is what I was just thinking, especially the dialogue system
>Cyrodiil is being made in Morrowind
why would someone do that thing
>>257764534
Well, most of Cyrodiil didn't make a lot of sense as the center of an Empire. There are like barrely any people living there, almost no signs of political intrigue at all, no Elder Council (which meant that Ocato just sat alone feeling sorry for himself and not doing anything for the entire game) and there is hardly any military in the entire country.
>>257765878
Not the game, the environment and the implementing of more farms, that would've been successful
It's would've been better, just think of yourself going through the dark lush forest, while a bandit is hiding behind a tree and he jumps to kill you and steal your stuff, wouldn't that be awesome
>>257765991
It probably just means that we like the same things.
>>257763635
But morrowind's dialogue was garbage. Hardly anyone had anything to say.
Also, you're wrong about the lore aspect. Exposition should go in in game books or computers or whatever would hold that kind of information in your given fictional world. No ordinary person is going to sit there lecture you about coastal trade routes or ancient theology or whatever.
>>257763635
I think written dialogue just works better in an open world game, especially if its moddable. Its a lot easier to get someone to write new quests and dialogue and plug it right into the game than it is to do all that AND find voice actor(s) that aren't shit. If Morrowind had fully voiced dialogue, we wouldn't have mods like LGNPC, Rise of House Telvanni, Uvirith's Legacy, Julan, and it would make Tamriel Rebuilt releases even slower than they already are.
>>257766164
Read these>>257760012
>>257761368
>>257766164
Lore Cyrodiil and not boring Oblivion Cyrodiil.
>>257766496
>Julan
is this a good mod? it looks like a gay ashlander romance mod
>>257766319
That exact situation would have been perfect in oblivion's lower nibenean region, which already has vast and dense vegetation, due to being largely a swamp, and canonically infested with criminals.
But they didn't. Again, their flaw is execution, not ideological.
>>257760345
>someone could be modding skyrim into oblivion
>>257766473
No ordinary person did that. Ordinary people gave you well known information such as what was in the town, local attractions and the latest news and rumors. Most people who knew something important were usually important themselves.
>>257766164
They are making the real Cyrodiil, that was talked about in Morrowind and Daggerfall
they are making Cyrodiil that was in concept art and designs, the lore Cyrodiil
The jungle and full of forest Cyrodiil not the shitty Oblivion Cyrodiil that is full of daedra
>>257766496
>Its a lot easier to get someone to write new quests and dialogue and plug it right into the game than it is to do all that AND find voice actor(s) that aren't shit
You don't have to get people to voice act mods in oblivion or skyrim.
>>257758009
how is this looking better than oblivion
bethesda are you even trying
>>257766741
Julan is an ashlander that is so fucking weird and cool
He is awesome in every way, more awesome than the vanilla Skyrim companions, he shits on the mod companions for Skyrim adn Oblivion tbh
>>257766473
I'll take the in depth dialogue over NPC's ranting about mudcrabs and how you should totally eat meat that you poisoned. Having NPC's also acknowledge the culture and the world they live in make them more believable. It's also not like you have to interrogate a farmer for 40 minutes if you don't want to.
Just because you don't fancy it doesn't mean that everyone else will dislike it as well
>>257766496
It's also easier to make dialogue sound better in written form than being said out loud.
>>257767234
>how is this looking better than oblivion
Maybe because it's the mid 2010s and not the mid 2000 anymore.
>>257767030
couldn't all these problems be fixed via modding ?
>>257761741
>why would you want to play Skyrim at all?
How am I going to fulfill my fantasy of being enslaved and raped by a group of wolves then?
>>257767410
Morrowind modding is a lot easier to work with than Oblivion or SKyrim modding.
Anyone can learn to mod Morrowind.
>>257766906
>yfw nobody likes Skyrim's world so they wouldn't put it in another game
>>257767234
Because the modders are actually more active and have greater vision, and more importantly they use the original designs and concept arts and the lore from books that bethesda WAS going to use but DIDN'T use
Fucking lazy over payed designers, how are they even possibly called "professional" while there more professional and active modders out there?
>>257766184
I agree. These are things they should have put more effort into, but didn't. (Although, to a degree, the lack of populations has to do with hardware restraints, due to the quadratically increasing requirements of loading additional actors in the engine they use)
>>257767160
But then you have everyone complaining there's no voice acting, and only the most popular mods have voice acting. Leading to a voice acting cast comprised of the 17 year old modder himself, his friends, and his mother.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQN5BYJo5J4
Why?
Cyrodil isn't particularly interesting and Morrowind has shit gameplay.
>>257767410
You mean someone would take the time to mod an entire game? the game is flawed from the begging no need to mod it, instead just take a game that is flawless like Morrowind and mod all of the other provinces in it
>play lots of Morrowind
>go to Oblivion
>see fort in the woods
>go inside and try to find a bed
>die
>this happens 5 more times before it finally hits me that in the most civilized part of Tamriel, literally zero forts are still manned
Skyrim has hundreds of faults, but at least it was less of a themepark than Oblivion. It LOOKS like a real functioning place, even if it does not play out that way for very long.
>>257767296
>I'll take the in depth dialogue over NPC's ranting about mudcrabs and how you should totally eat meat that you poisoned.
The vast majority of NPCs in morrowind did not do this. Certain important individuals did, but so did certain ones in oblivion and skyrim, despite the fact that they had voice acting.
>>257758009
Morrowind was just as shit as the later games.
>>257767890
Skyrim is shit, Oblivion is shit, Morrowind is the real deal
Atleast Oblivion was better than Skyrim in every way possible
>>257767740
>But then you have everyone complaining there's no voice acting,
No, you have retards complaining there's no voice acting. And if you change your mod to cater to retards, you have no one to blame but yourself.
>>257767569
The engine is the same. How modding is easier on morrowind ? As far as I know there are lots of tools to make your game more stable for oblivion.
>>257767680
Well, it was nice to have people actually go to sleep and shit even if they sleep on top of their bed covers.
>>257767160
But how would you remember what they said? I mean there is no Journal is Oblivion or Skyrim so you would forget all that was said
But in Morrowind the dialogue system comes with a full functioning Journal the writes down most of the conversation and important things so you can't forget them, unlike Skyrim or Oblivion
>>257767890
That's one of the things I miss the most. The military outposts and other small encampments from Morrowind. There's no place like the Ashlander Tribe villages or a Fort Moonmoth
>>257768172
If Oblivion has one strength, it's that its NPC AI was actually highly advanced, in the way that it handled interpersonal activity and scripting. Unfortunately, no future Oblivion engine derivatives made greater use of this functionality, and in fact somehow neither of the gamebryo fallouts nor skyrim managed to do even as much with it as oblivion did.
>>257768541
in oblivion you still had a journal system that wrote down everything relevant they told to you
>>257768541
Morrowind also have the benefit of being a more wellwritten game.
>>257768605
Fort Moonmoth is life
Also why do they treat everyone like shit in Fort Moonmoth?
>>257768828
Why aren't you at your post?
will they integrate the quests of Oblivion in the landscape or will it all be OC?
>>257768798
I totally agree
>>257768751
Not as precise as Morrowind
2014, Morrowfags are still insufferable.
Will get back to you next year.
>>257768541
You could just remember it, or if you didn't trust your memory, you could get out a notebook in real life.
Also, oblivion and to a lesser degree skyrim gave you a journal update when someone gave you information pertinent to a quest.
>>257768982
well yeah it didn't wrote down exactly the words every NPC told to you but there was no need since you had a marker.
>>257769136
>Marker
Immersion breaker, opinion invalid.
>>257768968
It is not Oblivion.
see
>>257760325
>>257760717
>>257768798
Morrowind was a TERRIBLY written game
>>257769282
most edgy post of the day
Another mod that will never be finished eh?
>>257768984
Why? Is it because a lot of us didn't enjoy Obliviona nd Skyrim like you did?
>>257769136
>marker
Oblivion and Skyrim fucked up with their markers.
Markers should give you a general direction, not float above the fucking chest you have to open.
Not that Morrowind's horrible journal was in anyway decent though.
>>257769378
Anyone who wants to collect welfare should be forced to serve 1 year in the army and remain enlisted in the reserves.
>>257769282
Compared to the writing in Oblivion and Skyrim it's a lot better. It also doesn't brush up against the uncanny valley nearly as often.
>>257768958
That fucked up my thinking
>>257768968
It's not Oblivion, it's the Cyrodiil that was going to be made before they turned it to shitty Oblivion's Cyrodiil, everything will be taken from books in Morrowind and Daggerfall, also using lore and original designs and original concept art that bethesda was going to use (but were too fucking lazy to actually do them)
>feel like finally beating the expansions in Morrowind
>HEY BRO CHECK OUT THIS INCREDIBLE MOD THAT'S COMING OUT
>decide to wait until that comes out because I don't have it in me to play Morrowind 2 more complete times
At least it's going to be the craziest shit imaginable when they're done.
>>257769282
it wasn't
dont confuse, most NPCs didn't have nothing interesting to say so they had generic dialogue, but once you got to the focus NPCs like Vivec, Dagoth Ur, Almalexia, Nibani Maesa, Hircine, etc... the dialogue was neat
>>257769378
No, Morrowind had great lore, but in terms of actuall writing it was fucking garbage.
NPCs acted like walking help desk/encyclopedia entries rather then actual people.
the plot was pretty much nothing more then
-go deliver this package
-do some random quests for information
-get told everything you just learn is fucking pointless and not enough info
-walk out to the ashlands and back times doing random quests to get told you MAY be the nervarine, but arent right now
-Do even more shitty short tasks to get everyone to call you neveravine/hortator
-talk to vviec who just tells you everything you already knew again
-Go fight some ash monsters to recover some magic items
-beat on a heart 2 or three times to kill the main badguy.
I'm sorry but what the honest fuck is the point?
How is morrowind still relevant to warrant such a project this large?
Why would you want to play oblivion with WORSE graphics and more engine limitations?
Why didn't they just do all this shit with the updated engines in oblivion or skyrim?
Why?
>>257769282
Now that is edgy, and the unnecessary capslock
When you actually write why it was shitty (It wasn't and isn't shitty) people may actually start to care
>>257769237
I think he was being sarcastic
But even then, the marker was only bad because it was ABUSED, not because it's fundamentally wrong. It could easily be useful in certain situations, for example, you need to find so-and-so, and someone tells you he's at [X] inn, which is just northeast of [Y]. Then it would be appropriate to mark the inn on your map, (perhaps, assuming you already had [Y] marked?)
Where oblivion and skyrim abused it was, for example, marking the location of people or objects that you didn't actually have any reason to know where they are, or marking targets within a dungeon or building without any real way you should have known where exactly they were.
>being made in Morrowind
Why.
>TES games fucking suck
>look, they are porting 1 TES game into another TES game
>wow its fucking nothing
fuck you OP
>>257769282
>Compared to other media
yes
>Compared to other vidya
Above average, pretty good.
>Compared to oblivion or skyrim
through the roof.
Morrowind Lore is beautiful.
>>257769898
Re-read the thread, that's why
>>257769898
Because then in addition to recreating proper Cyrodiil in Oblivion, they would also have to remake Morrowind exactly as it is in Morrowind. Vvardenfell is already done properly, there's no reason to do it again.
>>257769898
"Because morrowind is the best game ever"
>>257770101
Yes. The lore. Not the dialogue, or even really the quests. Oblivion did a much better job of it.
>>257769984
I agree with your point, it WAS abused, if he told you the enitre detailed location of the person and then placed a marker in the map, that would've been more immersive and lore friendly
Unlike Skyrim, which just gives you a fucking marker with no details, what the fuck? Is the PC from the Psijic order or what?
>>257770101
>Morrowind Lore is beautiful.
Morrowind lore is Buddhism and hinduism shit thrown into a medievil setting.
If you have watched like any anime at all, or have even the most basic understanding of asian culture, nothing n Morrowind is even remotely original.
Why are people getting hyped for confirmed vaporware? If this ever comes out and isn't abandoned, I will be living on the moon.
Also the jew modders are begging for donations.
>>257770005
stop fucking posting this every 2 minutes
>>257770435
>Unlike Skyrim, which just gives you a fucking marker with no details, what the fuck? Is the PC from the Psijic order or what?
Pretty much every NPc tells you they have alrady looked into who stole thier shit but just dont have the money to hire the guards to do it.
>>257759337
I am quietly monitoring this thread
I appreciate you sharing this information with us and providing some fine info and screenshots. Just don't expect me to start jerking it right here and now because of some overambitious mod project for a fucking 12 year old game
>>257770607
You can't download morrowind mods from the moon? That sucks, I'll move to mars.
>>257758009
>that inconsistent lighting
>>257770607
Not begging they are asking for it because they need help, they're normal people not a company like bethesda
And they're doing a better job than bethesda
No need to be cheap
>>257770647
That's fair, but the marker should point to the Faggot's house, not to the precise location of the shibbledibble within Faggot's house.
>>257770772
Not OP
But a mod for a 12 year old game surely makes me fucking hyped too
>>257770997
Look at that cloudy sky you ignorant fuck
>>257769870
I'll take the encyclopaedia information above the quest compass.
But yeah the plot itself isn't all that interesting but it's all the htings that surrounds it and how it connects that makes it interesting. A lot of the factions in Oblivion and Skyrim has very little connection to the overall plot and when they do like with the civil war it tends to suck.
>>257771000
>Doing a better job than bethesda
>Released nothing but screenshots and a buggy alpha that will never be completed
You anti-bethesda fanboys are so one dimensional.
So this is yet ANOTHER "rebuilt" land that will never see the light of day?
How many are there now? Like 10? Why don't people just learn from the past that these things never get done.
>>257771250
Atleast they are using the original idea and using the concept arts and designs and lore from Morrowind and Daggerfall's books
Unlike fucking bethesda coming up with shit from their minds and totally trashing and not using the lore that they MADE themselves
Yes doing a better job than bethesda, you lazy fucking bethesda employee
>>257766741
Julan's a bro without having to go for his dick.the mod also adds a waifu option anyway, his friend Shani.But all the romance stuff is just extra, the best part about Julan is he ties into the main quest of Morrowind.
>>257771193
> lot of the factions in Oblivion and Skyrim has very little connection to the overall plot
While I can agree with Oblivion, I cant agree with Skyrim.
If anything, Skyrim does it more then even Morrowind did.
-The statue of Talos on the snake mirroring the shrines of Akatosh to show how Lorkhan and Akatosh are the same being and Talos took the place of Lrokhan.
-This ties into the Nordic animal totem pantheon worshiped by the dragon cultists.
-This connects to all those animal totem puzzles, all the old Nordic ruins, and the draugr who are dragon cultists brought back to life due to the dragons returning
-All the swirl patterns in nordic tombs designs, the dragur armor, and giant camps shows the connected history between man and giant.
>>257767998
O, go play Destiny or something..
>>257771190
the ground shouldn't be so bright
>>257758009
Nah.
It wont do it justice, just like Oblivion.
The jungles arent thick enough, the cities arent big enough or thriving, I doubt they will ever fix what Oblivion did wrong.
>>257771517
There's Tamriel rebuilt which has had steady progress for years, "skyrim home of the nords" and I think an elseweyr landmass? No idea about the progress of the latter two. Sure, they take time, but that doesn't mean the never get finished. Especially with Openmw's editor on the horizon I only see morrowind modding increase.
>>257771857
>More than Morrowind
Please stop
Everything in Morrowind is tied together so well
I guess they didn't do a good enough job for tamriel rebuilt and just decided to release it on their own.
>>257772075
They just started working on this mod
>>257772147
>please stop shitting on my nostalgia
No, a lot of shit in Morrowind wasnt tied together at all, or through very forced hamfisted connections.
Skyrim is no better nor any worse at it.
>>257771639
Look we get it child, bethesda touched your funny parts and fornicated with your mother.
Tell me when they actually release something entertaining then come back to me and say they're better than bethesda. Until then, they're basically idea guys that will create a huge empty mod with nothing to do. But I suppose you can use your autistic imagination combined with your hatred of bethesda to fill the gaps.
>>257761973
We'll not entirely different team. Many of the same people work on all the landscape mods. And those who don't have strong connections so in the end the regions will feel like one big area.
>>257762137
New release this year I believe, with quests for sacred east. They recently put out alpha for parts of the west-region.
>>257759337
>http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42155/
But will it have any sort of quests? If its just exploration, cool, but gets a little redundant.
>>257772236
They were never working with Tamriel Rebuilt in the first place, and Tamriel Rebuilt said that it's now working on Mainland Morrowind alone, no more Tamriel
Now we can enjoy this in Cyrodiil
>>257772102
No believe me, they wont get finished. Modders are under no obligations and always have real life issues preventing these things completing.
I've seen it far too many times with ambitious mods for other games.
>"I'm gonna recreate the whole of half-life 2 in cryengine!"
>2 shitty concept arts
>1 horrid looking model
>2 months later
>"Ha, sorry guys! I got a girlfriend and can't work on the mod anymore!"
Far too many times, most modders are losers that want attention. The minute they get that attention IRL either by women or something else, they just abandon what they're doing altogether.
>>257771857
Most of those points have nothing to do witht he factions.
>>257772710
>and Tamriel Rebuilt said that it's now working on Mainland Morrowind alone, no more Tamriel
I didn't know that.
That's a shame, but probably a lot more viable than building the whole entirety of Tamriel.
>>257772102
This is making me get more hyped
I wish people would be more positive like you
>>257772598
They just started working on this mode, but eventually we'll get quests, main-quest for the main story and npcs, creatures and alot more
>>257772728
>no stamina
>shitty level 1 character
Of course your hits will be shit
Get to training and work on leveling up you colossal faggot
>>257770486
It's old-Egiptian ,Babylonian & Persian Morrofried..
>>257769898
because other than graphics, skyrim and oblivion are worse than morrowind
>>257772891
and?
Two of the 4 main factions are Nrodic variants of the Fg and MG with thier own established histories and lore, tying them to Skyrim, and the Nords.
On top of that, the Impeiral/Stormcloak war is the kind of shit we are told the Great Houses do, but never actually do, in Morrowind
>>257773149
But then he wont be able to complain about how he hates a dice based system
>>257773194
>It's old-Egiptian ,Babylonian & Persian Morrofried.
Lol no, the entire wheel/kalpa/chim/tower/eternal I metaphysics that made Morrowind's lore is Buddhist and Hindu shit.
>>257773397
Dice combat is for veteran players and DnD players
I don't find it bad at all, just more hard and needs a lot of training which is cool tbh
>>257773149
Ita old b8 m8, leave the st8 and ejacul8 on some1 pl8
>>257773375
The Imperial and Stormcloak storyline is horribly narrated and one of the most boring parts of the game. It's also a perfect example of why Bethesda should not try to emulate a war in their games.
>>257772826
>2 months later
Difference with that and TR is that TR has been working on their mod since release. They have had a bumpy ride like most modders, but they never quit just scrapped their ideas and started over again.
There's no reason for them to give up now, especially since they are over halfway there:
http://i.imgur.com/Fs3ZWaS.jpg
>>257772826
>No believe me, they wont get finished. Modders are under no obligations and always have real life issues preventing these things completing.
Oh don't get me wrong, That's true for pretty much every mod ever, I agree. Especially for the one OP presented, HotN, and whatever else. I'm just saying that Tamriel Rebuilt has a higher probability of being finished. Not tomorrow, and not next year, but eventually. And it's not like no big mod or total conversion has ever released. To stay with TES, nehrim for example was pretty complete when they first released it - even included voices.
Not that I'm hyped for it. I'll more or less ignore it until it's released. If it's good I can still hype myself.
OpenMW is another story though. These guys will finish soon.
Open source engine reimplementations in general were pretty successful in recent years.
>>257773264
Nostalgia talking, morrowind has far more engine limitations than both the games you mentioned. It also has clunky animations and combat. I mod all 3 games so I know what I'm talking about.
>Shitty lighting system that can't cast shadows
>Unable to do complex animation of meshes
>No NPC AI packages (NPCs will stay in one position)
>No sense of momentum
>Terrible LOD
>10x the amount of bugs than the updated versions of gamebryo because it was one of the earlier iterations
>Unable to create complex scripted events
You only put it on a pedestal because of the setting and story. That WONT translate well to other settings. How can you not realize that?
You're probably undereage.
>>257773637
Never had a problem with it myself since I played pen and paper RPG's before vidya RPG's.
>>257762430
>>257772728
1 hour 6 minutes
damn bro, you're getting sloppy
>>257773810
except the questline is only what little they could put into the game becuase of console limitations.
If you actually knew of all the cut content the civil war has, you would know it was far greater then it was in-game.
>>257773819
They've worked on the mod for over 12 years?
And it's still in early alpha?
AHAHAHHAHAHAAHAAAH.
IT will NEVER be done guaranteed. Do you know why? Because bethesda had a team the same size as them when they were developing morrowind , and they managed to make a full game in 4 years. Trust me, they will get too old and disinterested with the mod to see it through.
>>257773819
And that's the best thing about The Tamriel Rebuilt Team, they never quit even in the worst case scenarios
They and OpenMW are absolutely the best modding teams ever
>>257773935
Not him and unrelated to your discussion, just curious:
Do you follow the development of OpenMW and OpenCS (their construction set replacement)? Are you excited for it?
>>257773935
Morrowind is getting a new, open source engine that should be 1.0 before the year is over.
>>257774167
There was also suppose to be ambitious cut content in Morrowind as well.
6'th House armies were suppose to destroy cities and shit.
Bethesda has lots of great ideas but have problems to implement them.
>people still asshurt about muh jungles
Thanks Kirkbride
>>257773846
Tamriel Rebuilt's team almost never quits and they have amazing works done in their mod
OpenMW is a brilliant and amazing job to be honest, they are working so hard to get it completed, and it's actually getting completed and updated regularly, and getting more stable with every release, I bet they will be finished before this year ends
>>257774216
Difference is, Bethesda worked 40 hours a week on it, TR works during their free time and the project is far more ambitious/bigger than morrowind. Things just take longer.
And yeah, of course these two properties also make it less likely to finish.
>>257774492
But the landscape sucks ass in Oblivion. 70% of it is flat and then there are a bunch of trees.
>>257774416
>6'th House armies were suppose to destroy cities and shit.
[citation needed]
I have never seen a soruce of anything outside of made up fan rumors
...You guys realize that with OpenMW they will be able to upgrade the engine and graphics, right?
>>257774216
Still in alpha? They release shit in bulks. Everything on the eastern side has been fully playable with quests and factions since 2008 or so.
As I said, like any other modders they have had a bumpy ride. Most of the shit they made when they first started is all scrapped. Now their pace has been much much faster.
>>257774335
Not really, I don't see why morrowind is still relevant in these times. Why would anyone except the most die hard fans want to revisit a game with clunky animations and ugly visuals?
You can hark on me all you want about being a graphics fag, but I just see the whole effort as being redundant. You also have to remember they're at a very early stage of development, so I don't see them releasing it in full until 2017 at the least, and any worthwhile mods or major overhauls in graphics/animations will take even longer, maybe going into the 2020s. Why bother to wait that long for such an ancient game?
>>257759142
Talos CHIM
>>257773819
That fucking level of detail
THE FUCKING PORT TELVANNIS!!!!
It looks so good, I'm going to play right now, thanks for getting me hyped man
>>257774640
It's more hilly than flat and its charming and pretty
>>257758009
wish there was a .esm, .bsa and .esp (for the npcs) to add Vvardenfell on skyrim
>>257774725
Nigga, OpenMW is supposed to be finished by the end of the year. You can finish the Main Quest in it RIGHT NOW.
>>257774612
It's not only that, they're also much more disorganized than bethesda. Hence why they're taking so long. All it takes is one argument over heightmaps/setting and it can all fall apart.
I know I might be cynical, but I've seen this stuff happen so often. I've been involved in the modding community since WADs for doom, and did my own mods for half life 1. I always see kids with ambitious projects that never see it through.
>>257770486
>anime
u fokin wot m8
>>257774667
It was a long time since I read it but I know Suran or something was supposed to be destroyed during the main quest. They also originally wanted to put all of the Morrowind mainland into the game as well.
>>257763095
Is there a higher res of this?
>>257772728
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>>257775250
> They also originally wanted to put all of the Morrowind mainland into the game as well.
No they didn't, in fact, Bethesda has outright stated in the past they only ever intended to do Vvardenfell.
>>257774717
How are they going to merge the worldspaces together when it's in bulks? You'll have to transition between different areas with loading screens.
Unless you mean they completed sections of land on an existing heightmap?
>>257775020
I found it shallow and disappointing. It doesn't even do a good job at feeling like a proper forest because all the trees grow to far between eachother.
>>257775091
>It's not only that, they're also much more disorganized than bethesda
Good point.
>All it takes is one argument over heightmaps/setting and it can all fall apart.
After 12 years, they've been through these kind of things and proved to be stable and committed enough to get back to work.
>>257775458
fair enough
>>257773537
You literally don't know shit
It has more to do with Gnosticism if anything
Also almost no anime ever uses proper Budhistic lore let alone Hinduism
I have yet to see any vidya other than SMT and TES mention anything similar to Brahman
Even fucking Asuras Wrath which was set in Hindu mythos ignored half of the metaphysics
>>257775415
There's been an existing heightmap for like, ALL of Tamriel for years. All the province mods use it, if I remember right. Its why there won't be any trouble matching up Tamriel Rebuilt to Project Cyrodil.
>>257775025
Me too, i want fucking fargoth and Ranis Athrys man
>>257773935
Except I already played the completed part of TR and I found better than everything in Oblivion and Skyrim so far.
I put morrowind in a pedestal because it has the better RPG gameplay, it doesn't pretend to be an ARPG because it has shitty combat, unlike oblivion and skyrim that despite having a shitty combat they streamline shit and the gameplay is overly retarded.
Morrowind is still alive all these years because its the easier one to mod new content into, simply that.
>>257775191
>anime
>shit from Japan
>Japan
>a nation where Buddhism is a very prominent religion
>religion symbolism gets injected into many anime series just like Americans do to christian symbolism.
This isn't all the Buddhism symbolism in Kill la Kill
https://i.imgur.com/iMe9Fdu.jpg
Shit is literally everywhere in anime, you would have to be totally blind to not see it crop it constantly.
>>257775803
I'm gonna assume it represents Buddhism just as well as Christianity is represented in western cartoons.
>>257775803
Yeah, symbolism
Yet Kill la Kill has jack shit to do with Budhism universe construction and metaphysics wise
Now don't try to be all smartsy about anime because this is fucking 4chan, almost everyone watches anime here
I know for a fact that very few anime and any media in general go in depth of metaphysics that TES does (Which like I said in another post honestly has to do more with Gnosticism than Hindu or Budhism even though there are influences)
>>257776029
If by that you mean a lot? then yes.
How long is it development right now? 2-3 years?
The only mod i'm actually hyped about is Tamriel rebuilt. And iirc there was also a Skyrim, Black Marsh and/or Elseweyr mod for Morrowind in development.
>>257775729
I think you're just being a dramatic child. How can an uncompleted empty mess be better than full products?
You're like one of those NMA people that hated on fallout 3 endlessly.
The other reason people like to work with morrowind is because they can be lazy with the micro detail and focus on the macro, creating big empty rooms and large empty worldspaces with nothing in it except one or two houses. But it's ok, because morrowind did it.
>>257776214
>including budhism symbolism that doesn't have to do with in universe metaphysics = setting constructed on metaphysics of several religions including eastern ones that has lore the size of fantasy novel with said metaphysics everywhere
What next, are you going to argue that Planescape is not original too?
>>257776203
>Yet Kill la Kill has jack shit to do with Budhism universe construction and metaphysics wise
>literally the entire story of KLK's Ryuko learning to become both clothing and human, aka "everything" in the KLK universe
>Implying this isn't a story about reaching enlightenment.
>nothing to do with Buddhism construction or metaphysics wise
topest keks
>there are people in this thread who did/do not like the Dice roll system of combat
>>257760325
>It's probably going to be the same as Tamriel Rebuilt though, huge wide open spaces and cool looking towns with nothing to do in them.
You know that it has quests now and still isnt finished, right?
>>257776214
I mean that western cartoons usually don't get Christian teachings at all and sugar-coat a lot of shit.
>>257776528
I don't like it but I tolerate it
>>257776336
The Black Marsh project was pretty much lost, all the data is gone I believe. There's like, one guy doing High Rock but I don't know how that's going to turn out. That's still in REALLY early stages.
>>257776528
Holy shit this guy was so hilarious to watch when those fat tumblr bitches couldn't justify being fat
>>257776520
I don't think you understand what is metaphysics because KLK (which is a shit flavor of the month anime by the way) represents the journey to enlightenment but it has nothing to do with the way RPG settings like TES build their universes
>>257776515
Planescape isn't original, that doesn't mean its not good, but its not original.
>>257776718
Black Marsh project is retarded because heartland of Black Marsh are not accessible by non Argonians since heartland tribes and HIST themselves will oppose you entering there, HIST might even brew up a virus to kill you
>>257776756
metaphysics is all the background lore shit that explains how everything in the universe works that the player doesn't actually need to know to understand whats going on in the game.
Looks really good.
OpenMW when?
