So why can't link be a girl? I think it would be interesting. It would also breath a bit of life into the crusty old series.
>>257685434
How would changing Link's gender change anything about how the games play?
>>257685434
Haha, fuck off
You see this tthread /v/? Get used to it.
>>257685548
That's the thing. It wouldn't. Why can't link be a girl?
>>257685434
Because then she would be a gross lesbian for loving Zelda.
I would hit that shit for days. I'm talking about young boy link.
>>257685434
>I think it would be interesting
How would changing his sex be interesting? Just admit you want female Link porn.
>>257685434
There would be no difference
Link would do what Link does, solve puzzles, traverse dungeons, and beat the bad guy, basically a skin swap
I wouldn't mind it, but it wouldn't make sense for Link to be a girl all of a sudden
>>257685434
Who gives a fuck? why can't Zelda be a feminine boy instead?
>>257685695
Zelda doesn't feel anything for Link. He's nothing but a tool to her.
>>257685689
I don't care one way or the other, just asking how it would, and I quote, "breath a bit of life into the crusty old series"
Link is such a bland and boring character that it wouldn't matter what what gender he was. People just get emotional because "MUH SJW, MUH FEMINIST BOOGYMAN"
I want Link to be a girl in the next game just to see everyone cry about it.
>>257685689
Because the story is adjusted to it and changing it randomly to fit what some random person wants is pure stupidity, as the character has already been established.
Why does it have to be Link?
Why take a popular, established franchise and demand to be changed for no real reason. Instead of leeching off another's success for little more than socio-political cred, why not add something new?
Because there is no real reason for Link to be a girl except "just because"
If people want some idea of diversifying main characters in the video game industry, they need to stop trying to shoe-horn gender and race changes to already existing characters. Those characters are already their own thing, and changing them doesn't add anything to the character and only alienates the people that identified with those characters in the first place.
If you want to make a Zelda game with a female protagonist, have one that follows Zelda or Impa. You don't need to shoe horn Link into a Female Roll.
b o i p u s s y
It's been done.
>>257685829
Maybe the character interactions would be different.
Imagine zelda's face when she realizes the hero of timeis a girl
>>257686271
How would that change the game though? You're just talking about extraneous fluff that has no bearing on the actual game.
>>257686114
>If you want to make a Zelda game with a female protagonist, have one that follows Zelda or Impa.
This. A million times this. An Zelda or Impa game could be fun as fuck.
>>257686250
i don't want anything to do with that doujinshi
>>257686379
I'm not talking about gameplay elements. I'm talking about character interactions taking on a different context through gender.
>>257686617
OK, but what does that have to do with "breathing a bit of life" into the game?
Since the topic has pretty much been shot down already, is there any franchise that would be different at all with it's typically male character switched with a female one?
>>257686617
>Zelda
>character interaction
What's the difference between a guy in a green tunic blankly staring at the talking NPC and a girl in a green tunic blankly staring at the talking NPC?
>>257686827
Sengoku Rance maybe?
>>257686735
Because those characters would be interesting and maybe stray from the normal formulaic characters that come with each new zelda game.
I hope that answer your question :^)
>>257686827
Metal Gear Solid.
I know there are many different incarnations of Link but do they really all have to be male?
>>257685434
She'd get raped and impregnated by a moblin and never save zelda
>>257686432
Weren't there already a couple of Zelda games? One from the same CD-i people who gave us laughing elf man.jpg and another that was some weird top-down adventure game or something.
>>257686950
You're still not saying how that would make the game play differently though.
>>257686827
Any porn games, I guess.
Because it would be fucking pointless and stupid. Do you want Mario to be female as well? Would that change anything?
Please don't be one of those autists who spams this thread every day.
Link has no personality
him being a girl wouldn't change a thing
What if Gordon Freeman was a girl?
I wouldn't mind if they made link a grill. Nothing much would change. Just more sexy art for me to... enjoy.
>>257687142
You mean Gordon Freewoman
>>257687142
If Gordon Freeman were a girl, the promo art where he's always being grabbed by barnacles would take on a whole new meaning.
>>257687038
Ignore the shitposter
>>257686827
smash bros
>>257687020
>CD-i games
Regardless of your opinion of them, the ones where you play as Zelda played exactly like Link would. I'd like a game where you actually play as Zelda, doing Zelda things with Zelda's abilities and traits.
>>257687038
But I keep telling you... and I will tell you again, so read carefully. Changing the gender would not change the game play (this means the game will not play differently, please understand this). However, changing links gender may make player view the game differently without changing much else. I'm not saying this is a good or bad thing, that it changes the game play. I am simply stating that it may be interesting for better or worse.
Please note, one more time that the game play will not change.
I hope I have made that point clear now.
Just making it a choice would be fine.
Link's just a blank slate anyways.
>>257685689
Why not make him black?
Last thread was pretty funny, wonder how this one will go.
If it doesn't matter why should it be changed?
>>257687405
>Changing the gender would not change the game play (this means the game will not play differently, please understand this)
So then it wouldn't, as you say, "breath a bit of life into the crusty old series" at all.
>>257687528
If it doesn't matter why shouldn't it be changed.
IF LINK WAS A GIRL I WOULD SHOVE IT INTO BOTH HIS BOY AND GIRLPUSSIES
>>257687481
>>257687528
STOP TRIGGERING ME YOU BIGOT SHITLORDS
>>257687528
If it doesn't matter why should it matter if it is changed.
>>257685434
>So why can't link be a girl?
Because Link is a boy.
It's like taking a look at greek mythology and asking "Why can't Heracles be a girl?".
>>257686927
i love this meme bro
>>257687349
10 years back nobody would given much of a fuck, but today this would cause an enormous SJW shitstorm
>>257687601
I don't care whether or not they change it, what I'm questioning is why anyone claims it will make the game somehow more fresh and new.
Link is a character, an entity. People recognize him as the face of the Zelda franchise, changing him would be dumb and pointless.
Also the Japanese games refer to him as the Hero, with male identifiers. Link is always the reincarnation of the Hero, except in the case of Wind Waker.
>>257687690
because it matters that it doesnt matter
>>257687582
I think changing the way people view the story through gender would be interesting.
>>257687690
Well clearly it matters otherwise we wouldn't have this thread.
>>257687165
>webm
Nice. I think my favorite part is Mario and Link's abrupt making out.
>>257687690
because everybody knows that the only you want that change is to masturbate and there's nothing more behind it
>>257687481
Easy answer to "why make the character black" is the whole spiel of the various nonwhite ethnicities don't get a whole bunch of roles as leads and there's plenty of shows where they're rare background characters. That whole example of the young black girls not wanting black dolls because they only thought of white girl dolls as pretty.
It's been good for deaf people to see deaf characters, it's been good for black people to see positive black characters, etc etc.
Of course, this is Link, and his pointy eared blonde dorkboy appearance is set in stone so changing it would come across as nothing but a marketing ploy that Nintendo wouldn't spring for.
Zelda game with a non-link protagonist that was a chick? I'd be down for it, personally, don't know about you guys.
Lore-wise there is no real reason Link couldn't be a girl. Design-wise there is no good reason for Link TO be a girl, and making that change without good reason is destructive, compulsory crap.
>>257685434
I'd be fine with every main character being female
The problem is those games don't sell well.
Look what happened when they took Samus out of the suit and started forcing all the female maternal bullshit down everyone's throats.
Unless she's just some stripper (Lollipop Chainsaw, Bayonetta) no one will buy the games. And that's hardly more "feminist" than just having the character be male.
>>257687693
Women are naturally a lot weaker than men though so it just isn't as believable as Heracles being a man.
>>257687923
What about a non-Link protagonist that was a fat, bald, transgender black woman?
>>257685689
>It wouldn't
Then why bother changing an established, money making character?
If it ain't broken, don't fix it.
>>257687993
True IRL as a heavy tendency but why should it matter in nonearth/fantastical settings
>>257687502
>that fucking post
The mental gymnastics to come to such a conclusion are truly impressive.
Though I still stand by Courage Wolf's wise words.
>>257688097
It's not fixing it if it doesn't matter.
Why can't Samus be a man?
It would definitely breath some fresh air into Metroid and probably make a better main character than Other M
>>257688097
Are you saying that it would be a bad thing for link to be a girl?
>>257688084
tingle? I would play a tingle game
>>257687836
But that has nothing to do with the game.
>>257687836
How? Link has no character, no personality, no lines of dialogue. He's a blank slate for the character to self-insert as. A 'Link" to the player so to speak. It would change nothing about the game other than the fact that Link would have tits this time.
>>257688084
Counterpoint, nonLink gerudo protagonist
>>257688289
>Changing the gender of the characters in a game has nothing to do with the game
This statement is wrong.
>>257688242
Not the guy you were responding to, but yes, it would be a bad thing to change the gender of a character that is over 20 years old.
>>257688242
Yes.
Girls have cooties.
>>257687982
>Bayonetta
>Stripper
>Also thinking Samus was only revealed as female recently
You're an idiot
>>257688371
>Gerudo protagonist
Seconded.
>>257685434
Why can't Link be a man? He always looked like a bbc sucking blonde swedish faggot. Why not make him a Crusade knight?
>>257688395
I've got friends of facebook that changed their gender at 20+ years old.
>>257687502
>being attracted to tits and vagoo makes you gay
Who knew
Link shouldn't be a girl. 'Mysterious boy in green who saves the day' is his mythos.
By all means have a female protagonist but don't make it Link.
>>257688387
You're focusing purely on things that have nothing to do with actually playing the game though. You're missing the entire fucking point.
>>257687783
he was totally the hero in WW they just thought he wasn't early on in the game, same as nobody had a clue that Tetra was Zelda, not even herself
>>257688495
was that movie any good?
>>257688495
Oh fuck off sweden hater.
>>257688645
it is
>>257688554
No, YOU'RE missing the point. You're attacking a pillar of my argument that doesn't exist. I don't care about the game play. I'm talking about characters in the game.
>>257688530
Of course it is anon, so you better let me put it in your butt.
Y'know, so we won't be gay.
>>257688371
A Gerudo protagonist would be fine, as long as it was made clear that it was in fact a Gerudo character.
I just think making Link literally the same character but with boobs is wrong.
>>257688545
>By all means have a female protagonist but don't make it Link.
Who would be more fun to play as? Zelda or Impa?
>>257688697
Link HAS no character to be changed with his gender.
>>257688697
You claimed that somehow changing Link's gender would, and I quote, "breath a bit of life into the crusty old series," and then proceeded to claim it would have absolutely no impact on the game.
>>257688803
Sheik.
>>257688821
sure, just like Samus had no character before Other M.
Oh wait.
>>257688697
>I don't care about the game play
Typical response of someone who wants a pointless genderswap in an established game.
Just fuck off already, new IPs are created all the time with female characters if that's your bag. Just leave Zelda alone, please.
>>257688803
Impa for combat and action.
Zelda for solving puzzles.
>>257686114
exactly. why make link into a girl when ZELDA is also a character?
>>257688821
Link is a character. This is a fact. He has no 'personality'. He does, however, have a gender. Would it not be interesting to change it?
Let's throw away the rights and wrongs of this and ask the simple question.
Would it be 'interesting' to change Link's gender?
>>257688803
Fuck yes, I would kill for a spin off game where you play as Zelda. Make it a stealth game with magic elements similar in style if not tone to Sly Cooper where you play as Sheik and occasionally Zelda herself.
>>257686617
>Character interactions
>In a Zelda game
No. "Do this thing, for this reason" is about as far as character interaction goes in the series. IT would change nothing
>>257685434
That reminds me, does anyone have the image of Miyamoto talking about how Yoshi's gender shouldn't matter and all he wants to do is make games?
>>257685434
Why does Link need to be a girl? To satisfy feminists who need a strong female protagonist?
>>257688709
Ok but I am only doing this so I can appear straight
>>257685434
>>257688993
>Let's throw away the rights and wrongs of this and ask the simple question.
>Would it be 'interesting' to change Link's gender?
I don't see how it would
Why can't Link be fat?
>>257687892
Guilty as charged.
>>257688854
Please learn the difference between gameplay and the game itself.
>>257688993
No but it would be interesting to put a bullet in your head so you would finally shut the fuck up and stop repeating your little bitch argument.
>>257688458
> thinking Samus was only revealed as female recently
A never said that. Samus was in her (very masculine looking) suit for most games so her being a woman had no bearing on anything.
Then when she leaves the suit suddenly she's wearing a skin tight outfit and crying. It's a significant contrast with the strong silent type she used to be when she could still ostensibly be seen as male by any passive observer who didn't know any better.
My only concern- Suppose they did make Link a girl for one game.
Would she be rescuing the Prince or Princess?
>>257689040
Of course, anon! And we can cuddle after for a few hours, just so we're extra straight.
>>257689104
That's just it - there is no fucking difference. The game is the game, everything else is superfluous fluff that has no bearing on the game.
>>257685434
just give it some time anon
Because make your own game starring a girl
Women are not equal because they can't even do that, instead they want men to do it for them.
>>257688674
Go back to bed Jesper, Tyrone is waiting for you.
>>257689092
i chuckled
>>257685434
because then I would have to get this penis removed off this tattoo
>>257685434
Link being so feminine keeps me closer to turning gay as fuck
with female link now I don't have to
fucking waifu forever
>>257689202
C, can I join? I want to make sure I'm straight too.
>>257686950
>Would be interesting and stray from the normal formulaic characters
You mean those well known and well loved normal formulaic characters that made the game popular and ensure people keep buying the game?
I'm sure changing those will not be a risk at all!
>>257688993
No. He doesn't interact with anyone meaningfully beyond a blank stare or the rare facial expression. Nothing about his interaction would be changed with his gender.
>>257688993
>Would it be 'interesting' to change Link's gender?
Not really. It would not change the game or story at all and would serve no purpose.
>>257689229
>Americucks in charge of knowing timezones
>>257689092
Why can't Link into bearmode?
>>257685434
Because the patriarchy wants to oppress female Zelda players, can't be helped really.
Link has become such an anime pretty boy that it wouldn't change much at all.
Why can't Link be a fish?
Why can't Link be a muslim?
Why can't Link be a bara tiger?
>>257689215
Doesn't it just say that was Link's little sister and that the concept was scrapped?
>>257689318
no fuck off, I'm not straight-marrying two guys at once
>>257686980
For what reason would one need to be female, other than "I, personally, would think it interesting"
>>257689358
>not being culturally enriched 24/7
What are you, a racist?
>>257689202
Good idea, maybe we should talk about our feelings too just in case.
>>257689318
More the merrier I always say.
>>257689443
O, OK...;_;
To that one fool saying Link has no character or personality, you're wrong. Or at least in regards to the 3D games.
>>257689068
>PoC changed to white characters
I can't think of an example of that happening in the last 10-15 years. I can thing of plenty of the opposite though.
>>257689210
let's break up what makes most games, okay?
Gameplay
Story and characters
Art
Each of these can be changed without directly affecting the other while still effecting how the game is perceived.
It's silly to say that characters have no bearing on how a game is received and are irrelevant.
Link can be a transgender moon wizard for all I care. It's not really important at all as long as it's visually identifiable as essentially the same character.
>>257688945
>Impa for combat and action.
>Zelda for solving puzzles.
So, pic related, basically?
>>257689556
Avatar the last airbender live action movie, ironically directed by a brown man.
>>257689414
On a side note, if Link were a Muslim, could we finally have those islamic chants in the fire temple music?
>>257689556
If Asians count as PoC, Disney's new movie Big Hero 6 has two or three characters that were Asians changed to white. And one to Black.
>>257689183
I would think a prince to reverse the roles around.
>>257689414but Link was a fish that one time
Why can't Link be an atheist?
>>257685689
why can't he be a guy? why make pointless changes. you'd only be looking for trouble fixing whats not broken
>>257689575
Except graphics only matter insofar as you can see what you're doing, and story only exists so you know what to do. The only thing that matters, and thus the only thing you can change to "freshen up" a game, is the gameplay.
>>257689806
He just wants more fap material, thats it.
>>257689414I'd play The Legend of Build Tiger
Well, he's already wearing a skirt, so...
>>257689542
In WW and SS, maybe
>>257685434
Why can't Link be a big guy?
>>257689542
But the 3D games are steaming piles of shit.
Why can't I be a girl? ;-;
>>257689575
But changing story and characters and Art doesn't breathe new life into the series. If it did Zelda wouldn't be a 'crusty old series' in the first place since nearly every game brings new characters, new stories and a new artstyle.
>>257689801
why cant you disappear forever
>>257689801
If Link wasn't changed into an atheist, his shield would have a cross like in zelda 1.
>>257689898
Somebody get this hothead outta here
>>257689843
I think that's a shallow statement. Were it not for the story. Games like The Walking Dead would have little value at all as they rely entirely on their stories.
If they made a followup to ALBW which was at least as good as a game as ALBW was, but made Link a girl (with no other changes to her), would it sell as well?
>>257689801
>Heavy Metal(like Evanescence)
For some reason that bothers me the most.
And I don't even like Metal that much.
>>257689719
>Big Hero 6 movie
>throw a black guy in it
I know blacks are some of the biggest weebs ever but come the fuck on.
>>257690037
>I hate when people constantly repost fedora pics, so I'm going to repost this every time someone does it
>>257689860Me too but thats not the point. You shouldnt try to change an established character for your own benefit.
>>257687601
Burden of proof
>>257689860
Only if you can play as each of the individual Brace Police as well
>>257690037
>not wanting Link to be euphoric
>>257690210
Who?
>>257690152
Just letting you know how positively enlightened you look when you still post the fedora meme in 2014
>>257689215
>You will never get to play as Link's little sis
>>257690179
I want that tiger husbando
>>257687405
>Would make the player view the game differently
Not really, though. It's just a completely blank slate avatar.
They're cool games, with awesome, creative and fun lore, and interesting characters.
Except Link, who is pretty much an automaton, created again and again by fate/gods/whatever to set things straight. It would change nothing but give you a feminin ass to stare at all day.
>>257690064
You're exactly right - Walking Dead has little if indeed any value at all.
>>257689981
Because god is dead and there is no justice
Link is just Zelda in disguise. The games are her legend and most historians/writers have no idea of Link's true gender.
Why can't Link be a dog?
And none of that "transformation" shit, I mean like a dog through and through.
It would really change how people look at the series and breathe some life into it. The gameplay would be mostly unaffected, and NPC interactions would be interesting. :3
>>257690315
Too bad, he already has a lion fuckbuddy.
>>257690114
No. You'd alienate the traditionalists, and it would confuse children
>>257690289
Build Tiger
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRBjU5Osl_E
>>257690371
I agree.
>>257689436
I hope they use this idea for Zelda U.
They should make a co-op mode like in AC Unity where each player sees themselves as Link and the other as Linkle.
>>257689414
>Why can't Link be a fish?
Fuck that, just make a Ruto game. I'd play the hell out of a Zelda game with a zora protagonist.
>>257690064
and while it was enjoyable, The Walking Dead wasn't different than those animated interactive movies from 20 years ago, it has 0 replay value
post more femLink art.
>>257689981
because you don't have money for a sex change?
>>257687601
Because it's popular and sells as is. Changing it is a risk not worth taking.
>>257690371
The lack of dexterity would be a deal breaker.
I mean this isn't a great idea but you can find other ways to shit on it besides stupid false equivalencies.
>>257689981
You can bemy girl
>>257690435
.....Hold on to that innocence anon.
>>257690297
Okay, bud.
>>257690371
This game exists.
It's called Okami.
>>257690332
Why can't Link just be Shantae?
>>257690371
>>257690441
Okami exists though.
>>257690535
>The lack of dexterity would be a deal breaker.
What? Why?
>>257690481
Maybe, but that's besides the point.
My point was that story is the spoon with which you enjoy your gameplay soup.
>>257689436
got a source on that
>mfw it's impossible to find good link doujins without sorting through piles of hard shota
I don't want hard shota damnit, I want old link
>>257690332
>>257689981
Why does feminism and the idea that women are better than men need to exist.
What if zelda was a girl?
>>257690638
Why cant Link and Shantae be mecha dog/tiger hybrids and go on fun adventures together?
>>257690670
Because Link does almost literally everything with his hands, which dogs do not have?
>>257690546
I hope you're not implying that a show as badass as J-Decker is somehow childish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-F-YTN6ApM
>>257690535
>The lack of dexterity would be a deal breaker.
You are displaying the same lack of creativity as Insomniac. Stop that.
>>257690519
If it doesn't matter it isn't a risk.
>>257690825
Then give him magic ghost hands that come out of his dog back. Problem solved.
>>257689436
his daughteru I think
Why can't Link be a gorilla?
>>257690845
We were talking about a different build tiger anon. You don't need to know any more than that.
>>257690537
okonii-chan~
>>257690856
It could make an interesting spin-off maybe but there's really no way you can make a game in the same vein as the main series with a dog protagonist without some magical voodoo handwavy horseshit
why can't link be a fence
Would you ratherfuckfemLink orbe__femLink?
>>257690775
Because men suck, and I'm not gay.
>>257690974
This. Has to be female, though
>>257691132
>Because men suck
No, thats just you.
why can't link be a hyperlink to the world wide web
>>257691027
no
no
I'm a girl toonow open up your mouth
>>257690974
Because gorillas are lame, and gorons are a thing.
Why can't Link be everything?
>>257690535
>lack of dexterity
Did you not see that dog? He was running all over the walls.
Zelda is all about innovation, I'm sure they'd be able to make a dog protagonist feel good to play as. And besides, it's magic, they could give him telekinesis or something to get around the dexterity problem.
>>257690775
If you're saying trans shit is necessarily a side-effect of feminism you're way off base.
>>257691058
What, so the celestial brush from Okami was "magical voodoo handwavy horseshit"?
>>257690974
There's no reason why he can't. Nintendo made a dull character and there's no reason why he can't be a gorilla, a car, a shoe or even a fucking potato with forks for legs.
>>257690506
>Surgery for sex change
>implying you still aren't technically male with fake breasts and vagina
>wanting Link to be a girl
>ever
>>257691234
>Zelda is all about innovation
>>257691280
>liking little boys
>>>/lgbt/
>>257691250
I guarantee its not a mental mixup, they want to be girls because anime culture has made them think being a girl is awesome. Id bet money on it.
>>257691025
Not sure why you'd think of something less badass than the fusion of McCrane, Power Joe, and Dumpson when you think of the name Build Tiger, but while we're at it, go ahead and watch all of J-Decker. You'll thank yourself for it later.
>>257691120
Fuck, obviously
>New zelda game ships
>Players stick it in their Wii U
>Launch the game
>New game menu
>Select gender option appears
Wat do?
>>257691208
But being a gorilla would make for much better combat. Wrestling a goron would actually make sense for a gorilla.
>>257690910
>magic ghost hands
>to hold a sword or some shit
why not have dog Link become the sword?
You are the 700 years old spirit of a demon warrior from the 12th circle of hell, a land called Anzansaruruske where you battled valiantly for your lord every day. But one day your demon lord got bored of you and for shits and giggles tossed you into the human world where you took possession of the nearest body you could find, which turned out to be a dog.
But since you still ahve parts of your demon power left, you can transform your doggie body into a 6 ft tall greatsword that can suck out the souls of the people it slays.
Gameplay is practically unchanged.
>>257691253
Yeah basically.
>>257691354
>not liking shota link x imp midna
>>257691395
You'd end up selecting whatever the default option is because you'd be mashing A to get to the actual game.
>>257691354
>little boys
I like Link of all ages.
>>257691436
Little boys are gross.
>>257691356
Considering we're talking about /v/ at the moment you're probably right
>>257691386
would you fuck >>257691204 ?
>>257691395
I would be disappointed, then click "male" and pretend there was never an option.
I don't want BioWare shit in my Japanese games.
Why can't Link be a sexy Jamaican man?
>>257691558
midna makes it all better
>>257691602
It'd be less Bioware, more Monster Hunter
>>257691605
Fuck off swede.
>>257691234
Dexterity often implies handedness, i.e. having hands. Not using it in just the sense of general adroitness.
>>257685689
Why not make link a hulking black nigger?
Why can't Link be Cthulhu?
>>257691594
No, because he isn't femlink
He just wishes to be
