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Every day, I see so many threads asking something along the lines of "Why does Sonic have such an autistic fanbase?" or "Where did it all go so wrong?"
This isn't one of those threads.
•This isn't a thread for cringe.
•This isn't a thread for complaining about the fanbase, or trying to dissect the series' appeal to autists.
•This isn't a thread asking when Sonic went to shit.
•This isn't a thread for "Sonic was always shit."
•This isn't a thread for getting mad, and/or insulting others, or trying to make others mad.
This is a thread for... Actually discussing Sonic. What do you like about the games? What don't you like about them? What, to you, does the character represent? What would you like to see in future games?
mario > sonic
>This isn't a thread for getting mad, and/or insulting others, or trying to make others mad.
Son you've come to the wrong site if that's the case.Amy is mai waifu
>>257526272
That's fuckingacceptable
>>257526272Back in the PSU days, I got a pink room and filled it up with Amy statues. Took forever to save the money for that. Don't think I have any screenshots of it, sadly.
Am I missing out on Sonic Colors? I played the first world and got bored, didnt like how it's several acts, some of them being less than a minute long. Also I kind of want to play Sonic and the Secret Rings again since i dont remember much about it besides WHO'S GONNA ROCK THE PLACE and the final boss.
why did they make knuckles so big?
Everything past the third game is shit
I played Sonic games on the mega drive back in the day and I really liked them, even though I was pretty young and shit at videogames.
I haven't played a sonic game since, but I got Sonic lost world free with mario kart (I had everything else or didn't want it) and it's... okay, I guess. Not really impressive, but okay. Are all 3D sonics like that?
>>257526639
what about sonic and knuckles
>>257526417
>Tfw erecting a throne room with two Amy statues on each side of the throne in Portable 2
>>257526567
Colours was pretty hit or miss with the level design. Overall, I don't think it was handled as well as in Unleashed or Generations, but there were still some fun levels in the game.
Pretty much, one or two acts in each zone got all the attention, and then all the other acts were thrown in as afterthoughts, and some are less than like... 20 seconds long.
>>257526639
sonic adventure was fun
>>257526629
so.... does amy have one eye with two pupils or what?
>>257526629
You know, as much as I can't stand the sports tape or theblue arms, I do really dig Amy's redesign. And I'm not the biggest fan of the character or anything, but her new design does look pretty rad. Plus, from everything we've seen of the game/show, she seems to be more competent and mature, and less annoying now, so that's pretty good news.
Was sonic lost worlds really that bad? I played it and thought it was the best sonic game next to colos
I don't really know why I still like Sonic, I just do. I guess it's because I really like platformers and don't worry about the negative stigma the series carries.
Some people are peer pressured so easily. I have a friend who loves video games, but calls anyone who plays Sonic a furry faggot. He called me a furry for buying Klonoa. And he's not generally an insulting kind of guy, he's just deeply afraid of being associated with furries.
>Amy will never have her own 3D adventure game
>>257526629
HOLY SHIT IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO NOTICE THAT PENIS
OH MY GOD
>>257526867
OH IT'S A WINDY AND SUNNY DAY
>>257527123
I feel you man. Peer pressure and bandwagoning unfortunately drives most of /v/, hence why the hivemind is there.
Dr. Eggman is the best thing that has ever come out of the franchise, all iterations of him.
>>257527123
can you blame him? the extreme sonic fans tend to be loud and obnoxious as hell, just look at youtube and DA who would want to be associated with that.
Autistic and proud sonic fan here, who else is not afraid to come out in front of the haters?
I was pretty into sonic as a kid (born 98) up till sonic adventure 2 and then I just stopped giving a fuck, watched the ultra autistic fanbase reveal itself and started giving even less fucks, but now maybe it's time to give the new ones a try.
>>257525994
You should add "This isn't a thread for discussing the comic and non-canon characters.", and we're good.
>>257527347
Lol.
>>257527157
>you will never play a game as Amy
>she will never have the athleticism shown in Sonic Boom mixed in with DMC/Platinum tier combat
>you will never fuck up the Robotnik Empire with complex combos, wrecking shit with that hammer
Why live
>>257527123
Unless you have a fursuit you're actively making it a point to have people respect your shit as a lifestyle choice you're not a furry. Dick slap your friend
>>257527306
I'm actually gon' second this.
Regardless of what version Eggman's great.
Which one's your fav, anon?
>>257527413
Its okay brother.
At least we're not as bad as the movie gear cancer faggots.
>>257527079
I've only ever played the 3DS version (and only the demo, at that), though I have watched gameplay videos of the entire game. From what I've observed, what people don't like about it is that it's just too experimental. It moves away from a formula that Sonic Team was really starting to get into a groove with, and tries all sorts of weird things. Some of them are good ideas, some are pretty bizarre, and some faceplant pretty hard. Overall it's not a terrible game, from what I've seen, just not a great one either.
>>257527123
Man, I feel you so hard. I still love Sonic and his games, but I don't like... LOVE THEM love them, like certain rather vocal fans do. I just think they're simple, fun platformers, with a likable-enough protagonist. But I always feel like I'll be crucified for mentioning anywhere that I like Sonic games.
>>257527554
>>257527306
I refuse to call him eggman it's dr. robotnic dammit fuck what those gooks say
>>257525994
I love the speed of this game, soo much fun mastering a level and being able to boost through it without being slowed down or stopping, soo much fun.
>>257527667
he is the eggman
that's what he is
What is the best Sonic song?
>>257527306
The only Robotnik i don't like is Boom Robotnik, he just looks wrong, he lost a lot of charm by turning his body upside down.
>>257526629
I can't be the only one who was actually okay with Knuckles' redesign. Knuckles was always the muscle of the group, and originally this was reflected through the overall aggro-vibe he had, as well as the spikes on his gloves. Here, the way I see it, they just improved his design. To better convey to viewers/gamers that "Yep, he's definitely the team muscle" they bulked up his upper body and arms. It may look weird to some but it's definitely an improvement in character design. This goes for everyone else as well. Take the wrench away from Tails and you can still look at him and tell he's the genius gadgeteer. You can tell Sonic runs, as he has longer legs than the rest of the cast (save for Knuckles) and a scarf to protect against wind chill. Their designs are definitely an improvement, I'd say.
And Amy...well I don't know about her but I like her outfit, it makes her look way cuter.
>>257527517
That shit hurts man. Guess I'll have to settle for Sonic boom.
>>257527667
Good.
You passed the test.
>>257527765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr6UUhHTHoM
>>25752994
>This is a thread for... Actually discussing Sonic.
But there's nothing to talk about. The character is an unlikeable douchebag and most mascot platformers of the time kick the shit out of Sonic's Genesis games.
Why didn't this character end up like Crash or Spyro I will never know.
>>257526639
That dog
>>257527398
>born 98
MODS MODS MODS
>>257527554
His game one is personally my favourite, but that's because I've been seeing his laughing moustached face since I started playing games, the fact he now embraces Sonic like an old friend is kind of heartwarming to me.
The SATAM version I never really liked too much, too evil.
RRRRRRRROBOTNIC is beautiful though.
Comic version get's a 10/10, even if only for the insane moments.
>>257527809
No you fucking don't, there hasn't been a single good word said about it and some are even calling it WORSE than 06. Never settle.
>>257527912
OH SHIT I MENT 88
>>257527912
1998 was 26 years ago anon
>>257526272
Pedophile AND furfag. Sonic fanbase is truly the worst.
>>257525994
>Sonic
holy shit are oyo real
>>257527885
>Why didn't this character end up like Crash or Spyro I will never know.
because sonic extreme was canceled.
>>257527927
I'm with you. Sonic Boom looks worse with every preview vid I see.
The DMC-style combat looks awful and they decided to make it a core gameplay mechanic.
Fucking terrible.
>>257527667
Well that'sfucking wrong and you should consider quitting everything Sanic related.
>>257527927
>listening to sonicfags
>listening to /v/
>listening to the Sonic Retro rejects that post sonic threads on /v/
:^)
>>257527994
>Pedophile AND furfag. Sonic fanbase is truly the worst.
swing and a miss
>>257527765
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7RFXLUQoLo
>>257527787
I mean, I'd say it's good character design.
Oh god this is so hot
iGamr where you at
>>257527157
>>257527517
>Amy Rose 3D Adventure game
>DMC combat with the Piko Hammer
>Pole-vaulting and other crazy platforming with the hammer
>unlock costumes and dress Amy in whatever you feel suits her best
![ev_rose3[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iVrYmZR.jpg "ev_rose3[1].jpg")
>>257527927
>WORSE than 06.
Is that even possible. The game would have to play like a lemon to be that bad.
>>257528125
It could be like unleashed where the fast parts are good but the combat parts are terrible.
>>257528132
dr. robotnik fits him a million times better. He's a mad scientist who has robots. ROBOTNIK. wtf does he have to do with eggs?
>>257528253
Stop making me want this.It's working too well.
>>257527398
>98
t-this is bait right?
>>257527765
http://youtu.be/uU6T5pb9nhs
Captcha: egurual fur
Goddammit, captcha...
>>257527554
Snivelyyyyy...
What color is my heart?
"I-I don't see a heart, sir..."
Exactly.
SatAM Robotnik was fuckin' threatening
, and sounded the part too.
>>257528320
It practically sells itself
>>257528319
He looks like an egg.
Japanese humour is simple at times.
>>257528284
>Redesigning the iconic modern sonic characters
>Made by shitty no-name devs instead of based sonicteam
>cartoon tie in
>Made by shitty no-name devs instead of based sonicteam
>not a single fappable new character
>Made by shitty no-name devs instead of based sonicteam
>no sign of blaze anywhere
>Made by shitty no-name devs instead of based sonicteam
Did I mention the fact that it isn't fucking made by sonic team?
It's fucking hilarious how much people jizzed their dicks off over Sonic Generations. A decent at best Sonic game being praised like a god just because Sonic games before that were mediocre or shit for a long time.
Can't wait for the Sonicfags who will get defensive towards this post even tho it is true. Yes even Colors was a mediocre game.
>>257528319
He has an egg shaped fat body
>>257528135
>implying it's just them saying it
Watch any hands on preview, go on fucking do it. Everyone is complaining, and if it's so bad even normals are complaining, you've got one hell of a shit bomb.
>>257528284
Apparently it does, the mechanics are uninspired and clunky, the "speed" parts are novelty at best and badly handled, the boss fights are phoned it, fuck seriously watch a preview or two and see for yourself.
>>257528319
Gee I don't know.
>>257528434
SatAM calls to me.
Methinks I need to set aside a day away from work to binge once again.
>>257528464
>no sign of blaze anywhere
This was the part of your post that hit me the hardest.
>>257527765
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1LJPaYA60Y
>>257527787
I don't like the idea of pigeonholing them into "gadgeteer" and "muscle". That's lame and makes them even more one dimensional.
Also it was funny that knuckles was this short skinny dude with this big ego and attitude. Like short man syndrome, joe peshi kinda thing that I'll miss.
>>257528169
Amy's 13, nigger.
>>257525994
What I like about 2D:
Levels were built around momentum and Sonic was given tools to take care of enemies and traverse the terrain while maintaining his momentum.
Speed was reward for being able to maintain and build momentum and became harder to keep as you went faster meaning it required more skill to go faster.
The challenge was using Sonic's abilities to get to the end of the level.
Big Arm, that nigger could kill Super Sonic and has the single most bad ass final boss theme to exist and be remade
What I like about 3D:
Not the SA games
Speed is now the root of the game, meaning the reward for keeping the speed is being able to flow through the level and has a boost to help him maintain that speed. The skill now comes in using the same reflexes as 2D to avoid obstacles to keep that speed but in 3D.
Levels are based around going fast and reacting to the changing environment.
The challenge is now no longer in getting to end but HOW you got to the end, meaning the levels become more replayable as you can always get better at them as you play. You are graded for how proficient you are at flowing through the level and in Generations case, rewarded with unlockables for S-ranks.
Music. Hot damn the music in the 3D games outclass the 2D games so hard it's hard to believe. Even 3D does Big Arm better than 2D, and that's really hard for me to admit.
I'm really tired of people bitching that 3D isn't as complex or as good as 2D. They are two completely different fucking products that have two different fucking standards they go by. I will agree with people saying Gens Classic Sonic is not as good as 2D Sonic since his max speed was capped, making momentum much less of a factor in his gameplay.
>>257528464
>Implying you can't fap to Sticks
Also, the redesigns are well-done and make sense for their characters, see >>257527787
There will never be a Tails Adventure 2.
>>257528357
typo. I am a 26 year old man pls don't ban
>>257528512
>>257528464
Aye-yo, that's some hardcore shit. Any hopes for the cartoon?
>>257527657
I guess i know what you mean
So is anyone else probably going to get Sonic Boom knowing full well that it won't be good?
>>257527554
1. Archie
2. Unleashed
3. Cartoon
>>257528818
Mike Pollock's in it.
That's pretty much it.
But you have at least 4/5 of the things you don't want in your thread in your OP through your dumb meta post, OP
>>257528818
From what i've heard the cartoon is hit and miss, some parts are alright, others make you want to change channel although i've heard a lot of "not as good as the first episode" thrown around a lot.
>>257528871
It's gonna be the closest thing I'm gonna get to a Jak soul successor, so yeah.
>>257528464
>based Sinicteam
You mean the very same people that been making all those shitty games for the past 20 years?
>>257528925
I found a few bits from the cartoon worth a chuckle, though. None had me rolling in laughter but quite a few things (evvvvil ham) got a little chuckle out of me.
>>257528871
Why would i waste my money?
>>257528737
In a 17yo body. Your point?
>>257528871
I feel like it's one of those games that people will play with such astronomically low expectations that it will be passably fun. Like Sonic 06 except you know it's bad before playing it.
I think it will be best played late at night, overtired, gamepad only.
>>257529131
So she's..
Jailbait?
>>257529131
My point is that you disgust me.
>>257528464
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srz_xVXat3I
It's just like Sonic Heroes except without any of the good parts of Sonic Heroes.
>>257526643
3D Sonic's have a string of missing the mark for one reason or another. Sometimes they come really close to being something exceptional and then bungle it pretty hard with retarded design decisions. The Adventures are rooted more firmly in the movement systems of the classics only with collision detection issues and too many playstyle variations that don't have much to do with one another. Heroes is more of a fast paced platformer that does its own thing but returns to the more surreal worlds of the classics. Shadow the Hedgehog is Sonic Heroes with shitty guns and vehicles. Sonic 2006 is Adventure style in concept but utterly foreign in execution as everything from controls, to movement, to the engine is Big Rigs tier quality. Unleashed, Colors, and Generations are their own Sonic Rush boost style gameplay that focus too much on going fast to the point where there isn't much else to do but run down a shiny corridor, but it does go fast pretty well and each successive title improves the formula bit by bit, though each does different things.
Lost World is the new thing Sonic Team is trying to chase the Mario dollar and going full retard in it's implementation. It's polished for what it is and its got more legacy throwbacks than Generations did. What would be very welcome additions like the parkour system becomes completely fucked as stages are are still designed with the mentality of the previous playstyle only with a jarring mess of gimmicks that take precedence over typical Sonic level design. Not to mention the slog that are the slow, linear, and by far the worst 2D stages and bosses the series has to offer. A few significant tweaks to movement abilities and more traditional Sonic world design and Lost World would have been a lot more than a Lost Cause.
Sonic Boom just looks to be slapping Sonic colored paint on a shoddy PS2 era platformer and looking more mediocre than it sounds.
>>257528765
I pretty much agree on everything except the music. I prefer the 16-bit music over the wannabe-80s-glam-rock of the Adventure era, or even the orchestral pop themes of the "Modern" era.
Not to say that the "Modern" era music is bad, because it certainly isn't.
>>257529242
>glam-rock
>Crush 40
Hello?
>>257525994
Sanic was okay
Sanic 2 was bretty gud
Sanic 3 was excellent
S&K was excellent
S3&K was 10/10 platformer
Everything elseapart from sanic spinballwas shit
>>257529216
This.
>>257525994
So anyone tried the demo for Sonic Overture? It came out at recently at SAGE 2014 and it's actually pretty good.
http://sagexpo.org/games/sonic-overture/
>>257529093
So that you can have ALL of the Sonic games in your collection.
>>257528767
i could go for some fish sticks right about now
>>257529315
Is it bad that I tend more towards Sanic 1 than the rest?
>>257529353
>sanic 1 sprites
For what purpose?
>>257529179
4 year rule, m8. Still got a couple months.
>>257529201
Thanks.
>>257529428
Yes. It is the worst 2D Sonic.
>>257529179
Depends where you live.
>>257529541
especially the GBA port
>>257529541
You are the worst.
>>257529361
I have some handheld Sonic's, Sonic for the Master system and Mega Drive, emulate the other MD Sonic games, and Generations for PC. I'm not interested in the others.
>>257529440
Well it does serve as a prequel to Sonic 1 by using various unused concepts and such. Also they added more frames and even some new animations to Sonic.
>>257529353
How about Sonic vs. Darkness: TNR?
>>257529616
I am aware of this. Feel free to prove me wrong with a game I forgot about, though. I could always use another thing to complain about.
>>257529660
>caring about sanic time lines
Sanic is just to go fast. S1 sprites serve no purpose aside from "retro xD"
>>257529174
>that pic
UH
(double uh)
UH
UH
>>257526629
F-for you
>>257529781
>"retro xD"
You're fucked in the head.
Furfags and the jews ruined Sonic.
Fuck the nips for being the enablers of furries.
Sonic fans are the /mlp/ fans of gaming.
>>257529881
Okay, who has the gif? You know the one. THAT one.
>>257526629
So Knuckles x Sticks porn would be more interesting.
>>257529440
IIRC Overture is basically expanding on unused prototype Sonic 1 stuff. Namely the running animations, Green Hill's mock up design, and other concept art that was thrown around.
>having a serious discussion about sonic
but that's what leads to the autism we see in the cringe threads
See folks, >>257530023 is what happens when you arrive late into a topic and post first without reading anything beyond the OP.
>>257529974
>Sonic fans are the /mlp/ fans of gaming.
And yet they don't have their own board or 2 documentaries yet. Guess they're not quite there.
>>257529541
Literally no.
That would be 3DS Generations.
>>257529974
>freedom planet fans are the /mlp/ fans of gaming
Fixed what was in dire need of fixing.
>>257530023
I haven't seen that happen yet. Most Sonic autism comes from highly impressionable kids and teens taking the world and characters too seriously. Game discussion doesn't really get too bad.
>What do you like about the games?
Good soundtrack, quality platforming and colourful worlds.
>What don't you like about them?
It's aimed at retarded children, terrible cut scenes, poorly implement level design and mechanics, ugly character design.
>What, to you, does the character represent?
'90s attitude and speed.
>What would you like to see in future games?
Good soundtrack, quality platforming and colourful worlds.
Decent level design.
Perhaps an ironic piss take on its '90s attitude with a Michael Jackson inspired soundtrack.
>>257530156
Not even.
>>257529215
"Like you've never had something malfunction!"
Really? They went with that joke?
Well, I guess this is the franchise that gave us Rouge the Batand her alternate costume.
>>257525994
Post em if you got em
I liked Sonic 06.
I'm not going to go and say it's the best game ever, or even good, but I liked it.
How autistic am I, /v/?
>>257527927
I'd not call it worse than 06, not the Wii U version. It'll probably be a bland, soulless, generic co-op platformer beat-em-up (jesus christ it's literally a western Jak & Daxter-esque take on the speedy day stages and werehog platforming/beat-em-up stages, plus lasso equivalent for stretchy arms, of Unleashed?) but the only way a game can inherently be worse than 06 is if it's so bad it's not even amusingly bad.
The 3DS version looks average, but in comparison to the Wii U version it looks like a fucking masterpiece, and Richard Jacques is even in on its soundtrack.
>>257530256
I really hate this image. Are you the person who created this or are you deliberately trolling? It's fucking tiring.
>>257529983
I honestly have no idea what you're talking about. Can you describe it?
>>257530256
Fuck off nintendrone.
![oekaki_feb[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/b8t0mGW.jpg "oekaki_feb[1].jpg")
>>257530256
Terrible opinions
Sometimes Sonic fans terrify me
>>257530372
Grim's got some nice dick sucking lips. That gif.
>>257530352
My opinions, yes.
![Sailor Amy[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/A8qkJi4.jpg "Sailor Amy[1].jpg")
>>257527787
but it looks shit. it's offensive to the eyes. it's like zero thought was put into how to make him represent strength.
>>257530479
Okay then, why is Sonic Colors perfect yet Generations has "everything charges boost meter" against it? Sonic Colors loved giving you shitloads of white wisps.
>>257530257
Twinbee pls go
>>257530414
Better made than the official Zelda timeline.
>>257530479
>Colors better than Gens
>complaining about holding X when there are whole stages of just doing that in Colors
>implying the games are just holding X
Your opinions are horrid.
>implying the games are actually hold X to win and you aren't just parroting
There are videos making fun of people that say this.
>>257530570
It has decent platform sections and sporadic boost sections. It's part of the gamer play in colours and not the core mechanic, while in generations it's overused
>>257530580
I don't know who that is. Are you referring to that one Konami character?
Currently playing through Sonic the Hedgehog 4.
It takes some getting used to because the homing attack is broken but I am actually enjoying myself.
I play with the music on mute though.
>>257527689
I hate how the developers seemed to give up towards the end of the game though. All the quicktime levels, daytime acts too short, etc.
At first I was like "Why do people hate this game? The werehog isn't even that bad!" and then I played it more. :|
>>257530817
I'm referring to Episode II by the way. Episode I is just terrible.
>>257530885
Ep1 was a mess
Ep2 is enjoyable but it's a bit more on rails than it should ever be
>>257526629
echidna have four-headed penises you fool
>>257530414
Somehow on one hand, I overanalyze shit myself. I tried to make sense of the plot holes in Sonic '06, god fucking forbid, but all I found was a wall of despair and confusion. I tried to make sense of GUN's flipping out and killing everyone but Gerald and Shadow on the ARK from both Adventure 2's perspective on the matter and Shadow's own game in perspective, and the former doesn't even have context other than "OH NO HE MADE SOME ULTIMATE HEDGEHOG, KILL -EVERYONE-" to Final Fantasy VII Shinra levels of extreme actions and stupidly pointless mass murdering / cover-ups.
Yet somehow i'm torn between not trying to give much of a fuck for timeline and continuity, and not wanting this goddamn simple "Eggman does something, Sonic finds out / stumbles in, stops Eggman and maybe some other thing at the end of the day" shit they keep doing. I should never want more complex stories in Sonic ever again after the clusterfucks of terrible writing in ShTH and 06, but this Saturday morning cartoon stuff doesn't satisfy me either.
What the hell is wrong with me?
>>257530817
Some of the music is actually good.
Not all of it.
Perhaps not even much of it, but some of it. I'm actually glad they used the invincibility theme from Sonic 4 as the Super Sonic theme in Generations, because it's upbeat, catchy, and carries the triumphant sort of tone that you would expect of Super Sonic (especially in the cutscenes that song is played in).
If only Super Sonic in levels in Generations actually had music (and didn't suck in general).
>>257530726
I've got an online "friend" that goes by the name of Twinbee, and delusionally loves Sonic 06. She doesn't even acknowledge its indisputable flaws, like the many glitches.
I figured there was a chance you were herconsidering how few people like '06
>>257531010
I guess GUN could have found out about Gerald's "agreement" with Black Doom and not known about his intended betrayal but that'd be assuming a lot since this shit wasn't revealed until much later but fits in nicely. Guess the devs realized that the ARK shit didn't make any sense.
It's also okay to want a form of complexity in something and have to be performed with some standard.
so would classic sonic have been improved if sonic stuck to the furthest edge on the screen from the direction in the level he was travelling? it would give the play a slight bit longer to repond
>>257531223
The faster you go the more to the opposite side of the screen he goes while running.
>>257531223
yes
>>257531153
I played the PS3 version, and I can, with 100% honesty, say that the game was less glitchy than Sonic Adventure on the Gamecube. I mean, I never fell through the fucking floor randomly in 06.
>>257530817
So people have figured out how to change sounds, and one guy even replaced the entire Episode 1 soundtrack with acapella. Why has no one modded the PC versions of either, or both, episodes with proper Genesis-style remixes instead of the awful, soulless synth they used? Or has there been few good enough remixes to really bother?
>>257531294
Oh, you have not scratched the surface of the glitches you can do in 06. It outclasses SA in that regard by many times.
>>257531301
It'd be pointless. It still wouldn't be a fun experience. It'd be like if your pool was filled with shit and piss, and somebody replaced the piss with orange soda.
>>257531215
Yeah, it's pretty logical someone ratted Gerald out, perhaps the heterochromiac shit that'd become the GUN Commander who witnessed the whole thing (and it's the only goddamn way that'd ever explain why HE survived the genocide, too, yet it doesn't make sense how he doesn't know GUN did it themselves). But that only makes sense with context from Shadow's game, and it's pretty clear they weren't thinking that far ahead with Adventure.
I can't even believe I just said Shadow helped something make sense.
>>257530257Me too, anon.
>>257531376
>glitches you can do
Intentional glitches are not worth anything in my book. The minus world glitch doesn't detract from SMB.
As it stands, I've never had the homing attack fail to lock on to an enemy in front of me and I've never fallen through the floor while going around a turn.
>>257531463
It gets worse.
Silver is my favorite character.
>>257531390
Sonic 4 isn't that bad. It's bland and less interesting than New Super Mario Bros because it doesn't even try to really do much but be a classic-style Sonic game except not. I get the physics are shit, Episode 1 is one giant ripoff of the past games with some new gimmicks thrown around and so forth, but it really isn't as bad as everyone makes them out to be.
>>257531536Mine too, Iblis trigger.
>>257531292
yeah this would be best, i was just thinknig the camera would pan backwards slowly, have the camera shift backwards/forwards considerably with the press of the left/right arrow would be horrible
>>257531558
S4E1 IS that bad. S4E2 redeemed Sonic 4 in my eyes. S4E3 isn't happening anymore, which is a shame, it might have been better than Lost World.
>>257531536
"Playing" a snowboard level is not intentionally glitching the game.
Having Sonic fly off the edge when I start a mach segment is not intentional.
Stick to walls and sliding off is not intentional.
Performing the homing attack is not intentioinal.
>>257531656
I was saying that's what they do. Why do you think the screen has to catch up when someone uses a glitch to speedrun a level.
>>257531645
Truly, we are the cancer ruining /v/.
>>257531725
Huh. Never had any of those happen to me. Neat.
All in all, I thought it was a neat experience. End of the World is one of my favorite video game levels.
>>257531847
The final boss is the only redeeming factor to that game and that's only because of the music anyways.
>>257531686
Well, I never found it that bad myself at least. Granted, I never completed it because Mad Gear can suck a cock, but despite being really overly critical I never felt like faulting it too harshly. Probably because I already had low expectations for years beforehand and thus knew I was diving into something that makes Sonic Advance 1 look far, far better than it truly is. Not to knock Advance 1, I love that game, but it wasn't exactly a winner either.
If Mario is Sonic's rival then would that make Luigi Shadow's rival?
>>257532095
Waluigi.
>>257532095
that's bullshit and you kno-
>Negative Zone
fuck
>>257532095
Luigi would probably wind up making friends with Shadow and it would be hilarious.
>>257529080
>evillll ham
Is it the mid 2000's again? How is everyone finding this line funny?
>>257532175
>implying he wouldn't just use Shadow to kill the troll king
>>257532095
Proper Mario and Sonic crossover adventure game when?
>>257532275
Tomorrow.
>>257532095
Luigi and Mario are friends so Luigi's rival would be Tails
>>257532275
>Paper Mario & Sonic
Well, it'd be a more likely crossover than an actual direct platformer crossover ever.
>>257532275
Now I want a Paper Mario/Mario RPG game with sanic.
>>257528765
>The challenge is now no longer in getting to end but HOW you got to the end, meaning the levels become more replayable as you can always get better at them as you play
This. Personally, I think not many people can get behind that and I consider it rather cheap tactic to increase replay value, but I luv it.
>>257530256
>Poor man's Mario
>Perfect
>Mega drive originals
>Just okay
Kill yourself you mouth breathing retard.
>>257525994
I loved the speed of Sonic Adventure that also worked with incorporating multiple paths to complete stages. I understand it's a shit game but for whatever reason, it feels smooth to me
I don't like the Generations/Unleashed jazz because it's just running in a straight line while holding the boost button. Arguably this is what Sonic should have been as his 3D debut but it feels very boring to me
>>257532392
>>257532405
For clarification, I said "proper", not "paper", but this is an interesting topic. I've thought before about how a "Paper Sonic" would work. Unfortunately, it seems like a lot of Sonic's core elements wouldn't really translate well to the "paper" style.
I don't know. How do you think something like that would work?
>>257532580
It's shit because the speed is uncontrollable because of the third dimension added to the game and the controls and camera not being good in any form.
>because it's just running in a straight line while holding the boost button
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>257532661
Sonic Chronicles.
>>257532661
I know. Just a crossover RPG done in Super Mario RPG's or even DBZ Attack of the Saiyans style would be great.
>>257532661
Well it'd sure as fuck work better than Chronicles, that's for sure. Sonic speeding around would probably not be an easy mechanic to create for an RPG, but it doesn't mean they couldn't be inventive somehow.
>>257532706
No. Sonic Chronicles has nothing to do with a Mario RPG/Paper Mario style, except that it was an RPG, and had wacky controls for certain special attacks in combat.
>>257532824
It's the same shit. Edgy villains and all.
>>257532916
There's that word again. The one you don't know how to use.
I watched a stream of Shadow the Hedgehog recently and I forgot how bad the models looked. It's like they took the Sonic Heroes' models and made them worse somehow.
Music was pretty good though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fK0vjVTeLsA
"at the forefront of a trend; experimental or avant-garde."
How do Smithy, the Shadow Queen, and Dimentio not fit into that?
>We will never have semi-relevant Archie characters in the games
>We will instead have Sonic Boom fuck up the main cast some more with side characters who we will never see again
>>257532384
>>257532143
Apparently they already are rivals
>>257533116
>>We will never have semi-relevant Archie characters in the games
Fucking good.
>>257533162
britbong pls go
>>257526629
To fit the stereotypical writing of the west.
Ben 10 does it, Pac-meme does it, and now Sonic does it because >implying we can be orignal ECKS DEEDEEDEEDEEDEE
I enjoyed Lost Worlds and rank it the third best 3d sonic game.
>>257533146
In the new Mario & Sonic, the corresponding characters seem to be:
Mario - Sonic
Luigi - Tails
Peach - Amy
Daisy - Blaze
Yoshi - Silver
Wario - Knuckles
Waluigi - Shadow
Donkey Kong - Vector
Bowser Jr. - Metal Sonic
Bowser - Eggman
>>257530634
>>complaining about holding X when there are whole stages of just doing that in Colors
The difference is, it was done well in Colours and overused in Generations. There were large sections of every level in Generations that were basically the Sonic equivalent of a QTE - hit L/R at just the right moment or fail the QTE.
Also I don't recall Colours having a half assed Classic section for every level that was bland and uninspired. There's good levels in Generations, but they're few and far between, while Colours has a lot more diversity in their level layouts.
>>257533246
I would love to see Bowser and Eggman team up in a crossover game.Hey, Lost World had those crossover DLCs, maybe they were hinting at the big one. A man can dream.
>>257533246
>All that piss poor stretching on the Sonic side
I wish Sega would realise that outside the 5 main characters, there's really no need for the others to exist.
>>257527157
Not if I can help it
>>257533379
It's people like you who are the reason I have to go to Mario & Sonic for a playable Knuckles.
>>257533106
>inventor/creator taking over world from another world
>demon that requires a sacrifice to be resurrected
>magical seemingly-jolly secondary villian that undermines the main villian
These have been done before, they are not trends.
>>257533316
And the wisps are just as uninspired and half-assed. They could have spent that time making the levels actually good instead of shoehorning a stupid gimmick in. Try again.
>>257530256
>using light greentext on white
Hang yourself.
>>257533431
Not in Mario, no.
>>257533429
Sonic, Knuckles, Tails, Robotnik, Amy
That's all we need in a Sonic game
There's no need for..
>Metal Sonic
>Blaze
>Victor
>Shadow
>Silver
>Charmy
>Espio
>>257530634
>Better made than the official Zelda timeline.
Not even close.
You only have to make a single small assumption to make the official Zelda timeline make complete sense.
>>257533503
And the word edgy doesn't apply just to Mario. Like I said, you don't know how to use it.
>>257533505
>Metal Sonic and Vector, two of the oldest characters, are bad
>>257530256
>"Colors is the best sanic game ever"
>But Generations is terrible
>"lol physics xD" The fuck does that even mean?
>GC Box Arts
>Loves both Wii games
Ok I get it. You're a moron. From reading all the unnecessary text on your picture here, I can tell there's not a original thought in your head.
>>257528319
he looks like an egg
all of his inventions look like eggs
>>257533505
At least two of those greentexts were actually interesting and well-implemented characters when they were introduced.
Though of course, Sonic characters do have a tendency to overstay their welcome.
>>257533573
So a "demon that requires a sacrifice to be resurrected" is perfectly standard fare for the Mario series?
>>257533505
>not wanting a diverse cast of interesting characters
Not my fault if Sega can't write.
>>257533690
The inspiration for it is nothing new. It can't be edgy.
What's the best site that advertises sonic generations mods?
>>257533690
By that logic, the first game in any given franchise is always edgy, no matter what, because whatever happens in that game has never happened in that franchise before, even if it's cliché as fuck and has been a thing in other franchises since the dawn of fiction.
>>257533431
>And the wisps are just as uninspired and half-assed. They could have spent that time making the levels actually good instead of shoehorning a stupid gimmick in. Try again.
Try what again? It's an opinion I'm elaborating on you twat.
In that case, explain Generations...
>Horrible classic engine
>Horrible boost sections
>Rushed levels
>Lack of levels
>Reliance on nostalgia
>Planet Wisp in general
>Dumbed down gameplay in regards to boost
>Uninspired boss sections
>Borderline BROKEN final boss
Let's hear it.
>>257533246
I get that but at the same time the first two games made the point that Tails and Yoshi were better rivals because they are both sidekicks with no matching abilities like Mario/Luigi Sonic/Shadow.
>>257533617
>Old uneccessary characters are somehow given a free ride because they're old
I like the archie comics.
what about you?
>>257533902
>deflecting onto me
Nice try. You can wallow in the realization that you're calling something shit while eating something very much the same.
>>257533964
Not yet, anon. Save it for when we reach over 300 posts.
>>257533962
Well, that does seem to be the case with Tails, Knuckles, and Rosy.
>>257533876
When you have an established series, with an established premise that's intentionally very reminiscent of a Saturday morning cartoon, going into "sacrificing in order to summon a demon" territory is edgy. By definition.
>>257533690
Zelda is egdy?
>>257534015
>Save it for when we reach over 300 posts
More like save it for never.
>>>/co/
>>257533431
>And the wisps are just as uninspired and half-assed
Whooaaaaaaaa
Hold on there, sonny jim. How the fuck are they "uninspired and half-assed" when they're woven in to the game in a meaningful way, feature new gameplay mechanics, and for most of the levels completely optional? If anything, Generations in general is "uninspired and half-assed" considering the story and core gameplay. It's just an expansion on the worst part of the day stages in Unleashed, coupled with the boring classic stages.
>>257533962
>Old unnecessary character is given a free ride because she has a vagina
Unless Amy wasn't in those 5 you mentioned.
>>257534089
No, no Zelda game is particularly edgy, with the exception of Majora's Mask.
>>257534015
>Nice try. You can wallow in the realization that you're calling something shit while eating something very much the same.
>Hurrr I-I'm n-not even g-going to argue, it's not worth my t-time....
Cry more little bitch. Enjoy your shit taste.
>>257534058
Tales, Knuckles and Amy have backgrounds, though.
As far as I can tell, characters like Metal Sonic, Vector, Espio, etc, are only ever brought in to games when they need to fill out a roster or play up to nostalgia. They're completely undeveloped for the most part.
>>257533964
Modern Archie comics are fun. Quality was noticeably dropping after Genesis arc, Penders didn't help at all, but right now they're doing fine. I kinda miss pre-Genesis wave world, though.
>>257533513
>Mfw the rewrote the backstory to a link to the past to better suit Ocarina of time's narrative.
Could give exactly 2 shits about Sonic's chronology, but that lame excuse of a Zelda fanfiction trident can go fuck itself 6 ways from Sunday.
>>257534097
If they aren't completely useless, they are completely pointless.
>expansion on the worst part of the day stages in Unleashed
It's the fucking same. What the hell are you even trying to say?
>my opinions are better than your opinions
And this is why I'm done replying to these dumbass posts.
>>257534148
Read above. I don't have to push my opinions as fact on the internet to show that I don't doubt my own taste. You're the only one here with shit taste and you're not even sure it's what you really believe.
>>257534371
>Read above. I don't have to push my opinions as fact on the internet to show that I don't doubt my own taste. You're the only one here with shit taste and you're not even sure it's what you really believe.
I'm not pushing opinions as fact, it's called arguing a point you fucking retard. You know, discussion and such? Since you're backing out like a little bitch I can only assume you're one of these "muh opinion is gold" fags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2df_35J3M3M
As a fan of the older games I'd love nothing more than a nostalgia fanwank 2D platformer akin to Rayman Origins.
Beautifully drawn characters and environments, get rid of double jump and try to make the platforming momentum based.
As much as I love eggman's VA I'd cut the voice acting, costs too much for how little it really does for the game.
Design wise I'd like the characters to look something like the sonic CD/OVA drawings.
Most of the fanbase now enjoy the many characters, poor dialogue and... lore?
Going back to do a 2D thing would be a risk and I think the closest we'll get will be generations (which was a nice idea but really just highlighted how shit the games have gotten)
Either that or reboot the series and base your gameplay and design philosophy off the sonic CD intro, just take that going fast around massive environments and make that into a video game.
>>257534410
>I'm not pushing opinions as fact
>>Horrible classic engine
>>Horrible boost sections
>>Rushed levels
>>Lack of levels
>>Reliance on nostalgia
>>Planet Wisp in general
>>Dumbed down gameplay in regards to boost
>>Uninspired boss sections
>>Borderline BROKEN final boss
I had to. I wouldn't mind if you kept going, honestly. I can see your readiness to defend Colors and how funny this could end up.
>>257528319
He's fat. Also, he looks like a Walrus.
Japanese humor
>>257534127
>no Zelda game is particularly edgy
But Link to the Past starts off with Link saving Zelda from being "sacrificed (for Ganon) to be resurrected"?
>>257534371
>>expansion on the worst part of the day stages in Unleashed
>It's the fucking same. What the hell are you even trying to say?
Last I checked, in Unleashed you have to conserve your boost for sections where you can gun it, while in Generations, literally EVERYTHING charges your meter so it encourages you to gun it at every opportunity, instead of conserving it for appropriate sections. Hell, the game has actually gone out of its way to shoehorn in vast sections of every level where you're supposed to boost through them with minimal input all to, presumably, just enjoy the scenery, which isn't very video-gamey.
>>my opinions are better than your opinions
>And this is why I'm done replying to these dumbass posts.
Argue your opinion better, then. So far you're appearing standoffish as if your opinion, or whatever opinion you're parroting, is the only relevant one. Stop being an ass and raise some points of your own if you don't like it.
