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>>257259760
> :)
Fuck off.
>shopped interface
Apparently a guy on facepunch imported a freely availabe 3d map of entire Paris into the new Hammer Editor and it worked. 1.3 km x 1.6 km big map.
soon
surf_dota
Atleast post something interesting you smileyfag
>>257261241
the kit has been out only for 3 days
>>257259760
What?
>>257261972
aw yis
thick shrek pocky
>>257259760
Pillar beta is out?
Is that for a special tier or anyone who backed it can get it?
>this whole thread
>reposting shit from yesterdays threads
no one cares unless there is new development.
Nice, this is lookin pretty go-
>that statue on the right
Why is it so flat?
>>257262417
what the fuck is your problem you underage edgy fedorafaggot memekid??
go back to gaiadditgaf you autismal mongoloid inbred retard
>>257262452
Remind us again what happened?
>>257259831
SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME
>>257259760
ehuehuehuehueheuheuheheue
>>257262670
Go check the archive.
TL;DR: Dota 2 is getting custom game support
>>257262670
Nothing, he's just being a retard
>>257262762
>>257262831
Ahh I see. Thanks anons.
get hype
Should I have cereal or go to the deli and get a triple decker grilled cheese?
>>257262452
We don't all sit here on /v/ every waking hour you sad bastard.
Have they done anything for the performance as of late? I tried back in the days when Shadow Demon and OD were new and it was unplayable on my laptop.
>>257263009
even if you don't sit here all day, we still have an archive.
>>257263180
it's even worse, every patch has new problems but no problems get fixed
>>257263180
Game runs on toasters as of right now, if your laptop can't run it then I'm pretty sure it can't even handle TF2.
Fight of Characters when?
>>257263372
My laptop can run TF2 fine, DOTA2 didn't run well because of it being a beta I imagine. I'll download it and give it a go anyway, 15 fps is better than none at all.
>>257260039
it's not really magic. there are a lot of model formats around, but in the entire world like 99.5% will use one of 6-8 popular once. I wrote an engine for my thesis a while ago that supported all of them. you can probably download any map/model in .obj/.fbx/.3ds/.dae/.max and load it into hammer
>>257263221
Yeah of course every time someone wants to visit /v/ they first check every post in the archive since their last visit. I'm sure that's what you do right?
I just want Legion TD.
>>257263849
>hurr what are you guys talking about im not here everyday
>instead of checking the image names in the archives and figure out what's goign on, let me sperg out as soon as someone doesnt spoonfeed me
>Go to download mod tools
>64 bit only
>...Never mind then
>>257264039
wot?
>>257264048
We already discussed the topic of checking the archive several times in other threads which you would know if you had checked the archive. Now fuck off.
>>257263548
>TF2
>>257264116
upgrade from xp idiot
>>257264116
What's your excuse for not having a 64-bit OS in 2014?
>>257264432
>>257264372
I've got W7 32 bit. I come from the stone age where 64-bit was incompatible with everything except photoshop, and I never bothered reinstalling to get 64 bit.
>>257264116
>Go to download mod tools
>64 bit only
>...Never mind then
32 bit version is coming, be patient. This version is beta, Valve themselves said that they have not done the optimalization, and that they are aware the tools are at this point needlessly hardware-intensive. 32-bit support is promised in near future.
The only thing slightly ruining this for me is that it hasn't got that nostalgic warcraft 3 vibe for me since the models and artstyle are the subjectively worse dota2-style.
I wish that Dota 2 never existed standalone, but as a map for Warcraft 4.
>>257264369
???
>>257263180
Source 2 Dota 2 client now runs at 64-bit, optimized for machines with more than 4 cores now, and has actual DX11 support.
Expect better performance and improved visual effects if you're running on a 64-bit DX11 GPU enabled machine, if not then this doesn't apply to you. The game runs fine on older machines right now, hence why so many Dota fans are from third world countries.
>>257264749
They pretty much are the Warcraft 3 models but slightly redesigned.
Crystal Maiden is literally a Jaina clone but with blue lipstick.
>>257264926
I know, but it's not the same. Blizzard-games have a very specific vibrance in their artstyle. Dota2 goes in a different direction.
>>257265190
so what
you can literally change anything with the hammer kit anyway
>>257259760
Oh my god yes.
All we need now is a paperdoll thing whete you can equip items and shit and we can make rpgs
>>257265282
That was not my point. Stop necroing the thread OP
>>257264749
>Warcraft 4
>four campaigns
>each campaign comes as a 'stand-alone' game like they do in starcraft 2
>each costs 40 bucks
>play orc, human or undead in multiplayer!
>night elf is playable in 15$ day1 dlc
>cash shop to unlock maps for multiplayer
no thanks
>>257265484
> Stop necroing the thread
I don't think you understand what this means
>>257264749
>Warcraft 4
Just let it go man, even if it was released today then it would get the same treatment as Starcraft 2.
>Map Editor content you create is owned by Blizzard
>Yearly overpriced expansion packs
>Game would be much closer to a MOBA than an actual RTS game
>>257265741
alright i'm locking this thread, use the search function next time
>>257265535
This is a load of bullshit.
Blizzard never did DLC.
The cash-shop is extremely irrelevant for the actual game.
And the campaigns of SC2 were each as long as 3 campaigns of WC3.
>>257264673
What,because you think a 64bit OS can only run 64bit applications?
>>257265754
>>257265535
>mfw I missed out on Warcraft 3 when it was big and will never get to cut my teeth on a worthy successor
>>257264673
64 bit has always been able to run 90% of 32 bit programs.
>>257265934
>Those forums where people bitch about both necoring and making new threads about old subjects.
>>257264749
>Warcraft 4
For that to happen, we'd need Blizzard to start releasing good games again.
>>257265934
why you mad tho
>>257266195
How about no?
>>257264749
If there was a Warcraft IV, it would be a console RTS, so Halo Wars with heroes. It would also follow WoW's lore.
>>257265954
>blizzard never did DLC
pic related
>cash-shop is extremely irrelevant
not according to what they are doing in WoW's cash shop right now
>>257264673
>32-bit
Why?
As far as I can tell, PC hardware has been exclusively 64-bit for the last 5 or 6 years, maybe more
>>257265481
Just need to make the item slots only able to equip certain items and change the UI.
>>257266443
>that screenshot
Surely that's fa--
>it's not fake
>>257265954
>The cash-shop is extremely irrelevant for the actual game
ever played WoW?
>new at the blizzard cash shop: boost a new character to max level! only 20$!
>>257266443
Not to defend Blizzard or Diablo III, but is that just a cosmetic?
>>257265754
>Map Editor content you create is owned by Blizzard
You can thank Dota2 for that.
>>257266652
You're telling wrong
>>257266905
It is & comes free with all PS4 version's anyway
>>257266905
Transmog shit is cosmetic yeah. You transfer the stats of existing armor onto the new cosmetic piece.
>>257264673
I have a fucking toaster and it's running 64.
Why haven't you joined thebot net
>>257266961
It was in WC3 map editor license agreement since launch, long before DotA existed, blizzshill. Go fuck yourself.
>>257264749
>since the models and artstyle are the subjectively worse
lmao
>>257267294
Because I can't be bothered finding a cracked copy of Windows and reinstalling and losing all my save games and shit.Why did this derail the thread so badly
>>257267314
What the hell? WC3 didn'T have that. If it had, DOTA2 would be property of Blizzard.
>>257267462
Yeah, I say subjectively because they are worse FOR ME. Is that so hard to understand?
>>257266980
Name one consumer-grade CPU released in the last 6 years that hasn't been 64-bit.
>>257265535
>implying starcraft 2 style campaigns for warcraft wouldn't be stupidly fun and way better than the WC3 style
No really, it would be fucking boss, in and out of map ways to customise your heroes, possible ways to customise your army and have them carry over, shit would be fucking amazing.
>>257267515
Dumb tripfag moron. Why would Blizzard try to sue Valve then, if they had no option about content owned?
>>257267887
They tried to sue them because the models in DOTA2 are slightly reskinned and remodeled WC3 modesl? Idiot.
>>257267887
because dota was created using warcraft units and valve basically remade them
>>257267515
Which is exactly why they had to change Venomancer, Skeleton King (RIP Boner king), Pudge, Brewmaster, Ember Spirit, Earth Spirit, and Storm Spirit, as all 4 used the Panderan Model. as well as the names of Outworld Devourer and Windrunner (Outworld Destroyer and Windranger now)
Additionally, DOTA2 is not an acronym. It doesn't stand for Defense of the Ancients 2, because Valve doesn't legally own that acronym. If Blizzard saw fit, they could make a game called Defense of the Ancients 2.
In conclusion, you're wrong.
>>257260312
>Dota was made with Warcraft engine
>Now they're making Warcraft with the Dota engine
Speaking of Blizzard & mods
I wish we got mod tools for Diablo 3, but no Blizzard have to be jews
>>257268309
>Uncharted was a ripoff of Tomb Raider
>Now Tomb Raider is a ripoff of Uncharted
>>257268301
You are 100% correct, but you are discussing with me about a topic which I don't dissagree with.
The initial topic was that SC2 has a function which prevents ur mum from reproducing lol hahahaha i dont get it why is my shit so yellow I hope nobody smells ur mum she reads books by edgar alan POO hahahahah
>>257266961
Blizzard are arrogant idiots. Valve saw this and took the huge pile of cash right under their noses.
To think that back in 2007 Icefrog approached Blizzard to create a stand-alone DoTA game and they declined. How stupid can you be ? It is not like the damn thing became bigger than WC3 itself.
>>257267634
aye
>>257268130
>>257268218
Can't stand fucking summer faggots on this board.
http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Blizzard-Valve-Settle-DOTA-Lawsuit-42430.html
>>257267515
>>257267887
>>257268301
You guys do know the blizzard lawsuit was about keeping it all pubic, so no one owns it right?
so dota sp? i may finally play it
>>257263848
You have to compile them with Quake code first, or atleast you used to. I dont know about now.
>>257268697
Not that simple, Icefrog wanted full creative control, even though he wasn't the original creator of DOTA, he just contributed to the project
Pre Acti-Blizz had insanely high standards, they were not going to allow some random modder to be the head of a project, Valve on the other hand based their entire company post Half life around buying out mods, so Iceforg & Valve were a perfect match
>>257268309
>WC4 that is good might happen
>>257268301
>>257268696
Are you fucking serious? That is bullshit, Blizzard sued Valve about name "DotA". Their point was: Dota is created on WC3 engine editor, so as we own any content created, its ours. And they fucking lost. Because it is as dumb as you are.
Seriously, owning 4 shitty words combination? What next, blizzard owns pandas, skeletons, spirits? Are you that fucking retarded?
Valve used that SK model for 3 years and they changed it for one reason - they don't want anything to be associated with Blizzard. They could keep it, because it is a fucking SKELETON, and it is not something you could copyright on this fucking planet. At least for now. You think Blizzard owns word "Windrunner"? God, just go fucking kill yourself, I can't stand it. It is not fucking "Samsung" or mcfucking "McDonalds"
>>257269080
After what Valve did with CS and TF, you would think that Blizzard would have saw that and been like "shit, maybe we should do that with DotA?"
>>257269080
>he just contributed to the project
That's putting it very lightly.
He was in full control after Guinsoo left, which is arguably the best thing that happened to DOTA. Unless you like broken as fuck heroes with 20 second stuns and shit like that.
>>257269080
Icefrog managed to turn an imbalanced mess of a mod into one that, again, became bigger than WC3.
The only reason why I think they did not relinquish full creative control was because DoTA goes against the entire Blizzard philosophy of "easy to play, hard to master". To this day it is a hard game even with the buttload of guides which we didn't have back in 2006.
>>257269516
They are entirely corporate now. You can't just change that overnight. Too many people are involved in their games now.
>>257269490
What the fuck? Why are you quoting >>257268696
?
Did you even read that comment?
>>257269490
> And they fucking lost. Because it is as dumb as you are.
Why did valve change Windranger to Windrunner?
>>257269490
you have no idea how bad copyright laws are
>>257269490
You haven't a single clue how these things work, do you?
>>257269729
>you are 100% correct
What part me not agreeing with that moron supporting another full retard monkey is hard for your understanding?
>>257269798
They changed Windrunner to Windranger because they were getting pressured by Blizzard because of their upcoming ASSFAGGOTS.
Ignore the Anon you're responding to. This is common knowledge, and he's a retard.
>>257269951
Just read the whole comment you dingus.
>>257264673
>W7 64-bit
>incompatible with most of x84 programs
What a load of fucking bullshit
>>257269798
Windrunner is under copyright protection. This is common sense.
>>257260525
how.
>>257269798
They have characters with the surname Windrunner.
>>257265481
it's a photoshopped image
>>257269798
Because one of Blizzard's most prominent characters has the surname Windrunner.
>>257269901
And you have no idea what mis en scene is.
>>257263180
just max render quality and resolution and put everything else in lowest. Looks crisp and should run at 60 fps on every TI calculator.
![mission1start[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jV6PDeT.jpg "mission1start[1].jpg")
>>257269798
Because of picrelated. And you think they did it because Blizzard can sue em? No, just because dota1 characters were based on a lot of persons from another universes, and Valve wants to get rid of that, it is a serious game now, not a shitty wc3 mod with lack of imagination.
BUT YOU CAN'T FORCE THEM TO DO IT, YOU AUTISTIC IMBECILE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COPYRIGHT WIND, OR FUCKING RUNNING, OR COMBINATION OF TWO COMMON WORDS, YOU PIECE OF STUPID MONKEY SHIT.
God, fucking educate yourselves.
>>257264116
How dumb is that kid god damn.
>>257269490
You are now aware that the company King (creaters of the game "Candy Crush Saga") now own the rights to the word "Candy". So yes, it's not outlandish that Valve would have to change the names of characters like Windrunner, change skill names (Windwalk is never mentioned in DOTA2), and change character models.
>>257269991
>getting pressured by Blizzard
You seriously think someone can call a hero "Airplane" and then sue everyone for using a word "Airplane"?
Well, you are even dumber than I ever could imagine.
>>257260312
Why is the death knight a summon-able hero for Human?
>>257270441
>9-28 damage
is having a dice system lighter on the computer of is that a leftover from the DND times?
>>257270470
It's a prank, they told him it was kinder surprise. Poor guy
>>257270441
That is beyond retarded.
To go and change the name just because someone else somewhere else might have the same name.
Will we see Lina get a namechange as soon as possible, too?
I refuse to believe you.
>>257270441
Prince is a copyrighted word by a publisher, its a pretty common word
>>257270175
>>257270217
>>257270261
I can't understand now, if this board is full summer retardness or I am just being trolled. Whatever, I am fucking out, you made me mad, good job. Fucking murriclaps with iq under 15.
>>257270762
Yeah, and he's fucking dumb nigger
>>257270748
It's to make autists like you upset. Get over it. You can play games even with random elements, and you can git gut at them too.
>>257270441
Yea you can copyright that shit, if you can prove that it's vital to the idea behind it
>>257270441
Look, I used to work for an insolvency practitioner, specialised in IP and patent law.
The name "Aleria Windrunner" is under copyright protection because it is part of copyrighted peace of intellectual property. Get it ? You can use "Running like the wind" or "Windyrunner" but you cannot use "Windrunner" especially for an archer character.
The whole DoTA debacle happened because the map wasn't under copyright and you cannot copyright an idea. The only thing they can defend is the use of art assets which Valve aren't using since they created their own models.
>>257270905
I think you don't understand how the world works
>>257270914
Just compare it to WC3. The spreads are 80% lower there. Why have such an insanely big spread
>>257270905
>eurofags in charge of knowing retarded murrica copyright laws
ayy lmao
>>257260679
> surf maps in dota
How do you even control it?
>>257270561
Yeah, go suck a dick, first google link:
http://www.themarysue.com/candy-crush-gives-up-trademark-fight/
>>257270635
>Name is Windrunner
>it's common knowledge she's based on Windrunner
>in a game that's a spinoff of your copyrighted game that had Windrunner
>not a clear cut case of copyright infringement
You really have no idea how copyright laws work, do you?
>>257259831
Can't fucking believe the source is still able to pump up shit that looks so comfy, I want someone to use dota2 to create an RPG where you just fuck around in the forests and kill shit, then at night you just retire in your home, pump some fire and then relax in the fucking cabin while wolves howl at the moon or some shit.
>>257271159
I have no idea
ask the creator
>>257259760
>600 hours in dota 2
>get bored of mobas, besides awesomenauts of all things.
>months later
>see these pictures
This looks boss. How do i get in on this new shit? don't tell me its related to that compendium thing... What are the best ones to play?
>>257271037
Its a hero, a better version of a normal archer. Its to give her the possibility to do lots of additional damage but not make her an insta win unit that 1-2 shots everything. WC2 was the last good warcraft btw.
>>257270778
No if it was some mercenary with the name of windrunner, I'm sure nothing would happen. But if you make a female archer with the name windunner it bears to many resemblences to the blizzard windrunners, and therefore can make a case as to how it may have breached your copywrite.
>>257271380
op's pic is photoshopped
source 2 hammer kit came out 3 days ago
meaning you can mod literally anything in dota now
literally
anything
mods with new models, particle effects, animations, gameplays, etc
it'll take time
>>257271380
Read the fucking thread, you aspie.
>>257264372
Not that anon but I also have a win7 32bit, im to lazy to pirate a 64bit version and find the loader or what ever it's called, id proberbly have to reinstall all my drivers to and that's to much effort.
>>257271209
Glad I actually read articles
>However, as the above statement notes, King’s still gunning for that trademark over in Europe. So get on those candy-themed apps, European game developers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2y12kv-n-o
Could they make a dota 2 mod mixed with the gameplay of this level??
>>257270778
But Lina was already renamed due to copyright
>>257270778
It is already changed, faggy. It was Lina Inverse, The Slayer.
http://www.playdota.com/heroes/slayer
Some shitty anime trash reference.
Now it is just Lina. And it is ok, because why would Valve have a dumb reference simulator while it is most playable game on steam ever? It has a right to be a good independent game with proper characters, lore work and design, not some cheap ripoffs.
>>257270905
you have no idea what you're talking about, you obviously dont know what American copyright laws are like, you can sue people for basically any bullshit and win
>>257271418
>>257271418
>therefore can make a case as to how it may have breached your copywrite
I am responding to a person that says it is entirely unrelated to court so please do not respond to me.
>some shitty moba assfaggot game can become the new Baldur's Gate
well, you finally sold me on it, Gaben
i'm not forced to play this shit online, though, am I? I prefer my RPGs single player instead of with 13 year old ADHD kids
>>257271642
Correct. She is part of the "Slayers" IP.
>>257270693
he's the default hero you play as in the editor just because his name is the first in ABC order out of all the heroes in the game.
>>257271642
>>257271664
>Sylvanas Windrunner
>renamed to Windrunner
>we must rename it to Windranger
>Lina Inverse
>renamed to Lina
>its fine
You are not making sense.
>>257271685
No i'm the same person anon.
Why don't Valve just make Warcraft 4? It's obvious Blizzard isn't going to do it and Dota 2 already has almost all models needed.
>>257271864
Japs could probably sue them too, they've just decided not to. HEY HEY HEY
>>257271715
As it is right now, I'm pretty sure they won't allow you to play offline. You can't play on LAN with friends unless you are online.
>>257271864
Windrunner is the surname of a female archer from blizzard.
Lina inverse is some anime chick that wields a sword and shit.
Lina does not bear resemblance to the copywritten material.
>>257271909
Valve are waiting for the right time to take an even bigger dump on Blizzard.
>>257271909
>valve
>do work when the community can do it
shit anon, valve BARELY makes hats anymore
>>257262223
Lol. Pillars of Eternity's art is 10x better-looking than this.
>>257271885
>therefore can make a case as to how it may have breached your copywrite.
>BUT YOU CAN'T FORCE THEM TO DO IT, YOU AUTISTIC IMBECILE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T COPYRIGHT WIND, OR FUCKING RUNNING, OR COMBINATION OF TWO COMMON WORDS, YOU PIECE OF STUPID MONKEY SHIT.
Welp. You are a retard. Just as I thought.
>>257271909
Why don't Valve just make Episode 3? It's obvious that they have all the money in the world right now thanks to Steam.
>Valve changed SK because there was a skeleton knight in diablo
News flash icefraud blizzard didn't invent skeletons.
>>257271864
And yet Rikimaru got changed solely based on the idea behind the guy.
>>257271864
>>257272020
>>257272085
all wrong
Lina is a not uncommon real life name so it can't be copyrighted by itself.
>>257272201
Didn't they change it because of Chinese law
>>257272196
>he doesn't know about the upcoming HL3 release
ay rofl
>>257272106
also a whopping 6 heroes PORTED in the last year
>>257272178
actually, I have two heads similar to the ogre magi from dota 2, I had to get the other side to shut up, for me to get my point across.
>mobas
>2014
When will the fad end?
>>257262973
>Should I have cereal or go to the deli and get a triple decker grilled cheese?
Spot the Amerilard
>>257271006
You can be whatever you want to be, that shit you are saying is as dumb as blizzard trying to sue Valve over "DotA".
And it will never work. I can make a character with a bow, call it ">>257271006, the aids windrunning faggot" and Blizzard will never win a case against me, because not a single judge in the world is not that dumb. And know what? I can paint its face half red, same way as Alleria and Blizzard will still eat a dick, because it is too basic to copyright, like copyrighting a fucking circle shape.
It is like copyrighting air and then suing everyone for breathing it. Go fuck yourself, again.
>>257272274
if it was a character named lina that resembled lina inverse from slayers than it would be a potential breach of copywrite.
>>257272201
>>257272296
They changed it for both reasons.
China doesn't like blood and skeletons, and they can change SK as a pre-emptive move to avoid any more issues with blizz and copyrights
With they change they killed two birds with one stone, but also pissed off fans because that green glowing thing only looks good when you get that one helmet on him
>>257272376
>dota
>fad
it's been nearly a decade since it's inception and it's growing each day, even spawning clones like League of Legends and Heroes of Newerth.
>>257272412
You're wrong, maybe it's time you went to be eurofag
>>257272584
>>257272296
No they already changed him for that reason over there, see in his pic.
It is just so funny to me that dota 2 is already beating sc2s modding scene simply because blizzard went full butthurt becaue of dota and said all mods are legally blizards.
>>257272376
You dont get it , do you?
Furion - Tequoia
Leoric - Ostarion
I don't get why people are bitching. Probably just newfags who never played original Dota
>>257272412
Moron.
Alleria/Sylvanas/Whatever Windrunner are all under a copyright and are intellectual property and artistic assets of Blizzard entertainment. If you do what you want to do Blizzard will have a case against you and every judge worth his salt will rule in their favour, especially nowadays when piracy is a buzzword.
Educate yourself before writing nonsense.
>Can only have 2 teams and 10 players
for what purpose
I really hope someone makes "scenario" maps with Dota 2 lore.
>Dark Reef Prison
>>257269080
Even though Icefrog didn't create DotA, he made it what it was today. I highly doubt many other people would be able to turn it into the sensation that brought E-sports back into the light. E-sports died when a lot of competitive shooters began to die, and Starcraft soon became a Korea-only thing.
Outside of fightan game tournaments (Which have always been segregated as their own thing for quite a while and haven't fallen under the term 'e-sports', comeptitive games died since there was literally NOTHING after CS 1.6 and Starcraft: Brood War. Or at the very least, nothing that ever grew popular.
This guy quite literally made the genre for what it is today and spawned multiple games that are raking in millions of dollarydoos.
>>257272807
Some of those actually look pretty good.
>>257273008
>Dota 2 lore
Valve is worst then metzen when it comes to that shit.
defend this dotatards
>>257272991
Don't suggest the editor has crippling flaws and limitations. You'll get screamed at for being a retard and an autist while basic custom games that would take a day or two in WC3 take months to make in Dota 2. Everybody is making terrain to hide the fact they don't know Lua to do anything with the maps.
>>257268721
>Keeping it public
>Blizzard has a rule that all mods belong to them
Right anon.
>>257259760
This looks fucking glorious.
Its like a WoW game that hasnt been ruined by shitty expansions with a better perspective.
And a MUCH broader character creation not to mention in a different vain than the same old tired ass fantasy : elves, orcs, ect.....
Something that will be harder to translate over from dota though, is that skilled and knowledgeable players become more powerful, rather than persistent babby grinding
>>257273198
tell me what am I looking at first
>>257271108
Well, moron, your copyright laws retardness didn't work for blizzard in your murrica, so I think you are the one who is in charge here.
>>257273198
Early beta.
>>257273397
Except it did work in their favor you moron
>>257273294
Oh yeah, I've pointed it out in the /d2cgg/ a couple of times already and on other places and got screamed down with IT'S AN ALPHA!!!! worse than it ever was with IT'S A BETA!!!!
>>257270216
People were changing the camera angle as far back as WC3, dude.
>>257272807
TELL ME ABOUT SHADOW DEMON! WHY DOES HE WEAR THE MASK?
>>257273294
>>257273608
>this obvious samefagging
lol
>>257272807
Ancient App looks retarded with a mouth
Bane looks the same
Clinkz looks like a generic creep
They just covered up Doom's mouth
Huskar looks the same
Lich looks more badass
Lifestealer looks like he stole Deathwing's jaw
Nightstalker looks the same
Pudge looks the same except for the new stiches
Pugna looks retarded
Shadow Demon is aBaneposter
Shadow Fiend is eh
Skeleton King looks absolutely badass
Undying looks the same
Visage looks the same
What I want to know is why did they give AA a fucking mouth?
>>257273772
captcha analcomb crambe
>>257273742
Skeleton, why does the chinese hate skeletons? Do they worry the skull may look like their ancient chinese ancestors, or the ghost of Genghis Khan will arise from the computer screen?
>>257259760
Wait, is that supposed to be a Baldur's Gate mod?
>>257273608
Except it is an alpha? Besides gabe has already stated that it's extremely important to make the tools easy to use so that the scene can actually grow
It's not even optimized and I'm pretty sure it was only released because the dota community was getting upset at the long delay for the patch (6 months(?) from the last hero, a shit ton of compendium shit that is being worked on)
>>257273906
>>257273921
>you even have two browsers open to make sure you post both images at the exact same time
precious
>>257273198
they picked anti-mage
>>257273938
china knows that skeletons don't exist and don't put up with any of that jew bullshit
>>257274032
>Besides gabe has already stated that it's extremely important to make the tools easy to use so that the scene can actually grow
I can't find even find a single statement of him talking about custom games. This tool was just quietly released a week ago and got big because of the Source 2 files found.
>>257273992
pillars of eternity
>>257274158
And yet they accept dragons, void beings, demons etc?
so
valve/gamescom hype thread?
>>257272991
Already confirmed that you can have 100 x 100 or whatever the fuck number of teams and players you want to make. It is far opener than you expect.
>>257272085
This just in. You cannot copyright names.
Valve probably changed it simply to avoid having to deal with Blizzards shit. Frivolous lawsuits are pretty common and they're done simply to waste time and money.
>>257274356
it was in his reddit AMA and it was in reference to source2
>>257274415
Oh shit, sorry mixed them up.
Even better, PoE looks dope
>>257274653
>valve
>games
>>257274905
>Jicyphex
>Confirming everything
You fell for a fraud's lies. Everybody in the modding community debunked his shit within an hour of the tools being released.
>>257274943
most of the time it is just to get a settlement. It is a simple formula
if settlement money>lawsuit cost then go for it.
>>257273198
>>257273337
>>257273476
>sk in
>early beta
Nope, it is not early at all. Picrelated is early. And your pic is just dota with fucked up videocard, probably amd shit.
>>257275342
That other screenshot is early beta. You can tell by the item icons being totally different.
The screenshot you just posted is alpha.
Two totally different things.
>>257274943
You can copywrite ideas, windrunner bore too many resemblances to blizzards copywritten material. That is why it was changed, and why venomancer doesn't look like a hydralisk anymore.
>>257274517
dragons are exterminated by the jews because jews are weak to extreme heat and gas. so they did exist
>>257275545
You infact cannot copyright ideas.
>>257275545
>You can copywrite ideas
>>257268301
>Venomancer
They didn't have to change it. They did so because the old model was low quality.
>Skeleton King
It is unlikely they was asked to change it, they probably done it on their own to give Dota a bit more separation from Heroes of the Storm.
>Pudge
That was another willing change. Again, unlikely due to requests of any kind.
>Brewmaster and the Spirits
Yea, makes sense they didn't want them to be Panda bears
>Outhouse Desolator and Windrunner
Again it makes sense. But I think the Windrunner change was Valve acting on their own again, since it was changed long after the initial lawsuit.
>>257274905
Go back to reddit you retard, that guy pulled shit out of his ass that got debunked instantly. The engine is hardcoded to only work with 2 teams and a maximum of 10 players right now.
>>257274415
That's not Pillars of Eternity you fuck.
>>257275529
Early beta is before 18000 game id. Only close to esports played it and you can't access replay info now.
After 18000 is a public beta, even I had a key then and played my first match on 21000, its not fucking early and replay data is accessible.
Old icons mean nothing, what the fuck are you talking about, newbro?
>>257275884
>The game is hardcoded
This is the biggest problem right now rather than anything with the editor. Options are flat out limited right now because of the amount of mechanics, spells, heroes, etc. just written into the game in C++. They didn't make the game built around the idea of it being modded. Hoping they talk more at Gamescon about changing this.
>>257272085
>Lina inverse is some anime chick that wields a sword and shit.
>Lina does not bear resemblance to the copywritten material.
In Slayers, Lina is a fucking mage. She has a sword, but magic is her thing. Especially fire. Fuck, her two signature attacks are called "Dragon Slave" and "Raguna Blade"
I mean, physically the only resemblance is ginger hair, but pretending that there is no resemblance to Lina Inverse is just silly.
>>257259760
>Comunnity will made WC4 instead of Blizzard.
Maybe there is still hope for the frenchise.
>>257276127
Now you're arguing semantics.
That first screenshot was taken during the early beta phase of DotA 2. What you define as early beta and what others define as it are different things, but it was probably taken in 2011, which is early during the beta when you consider the game came out of beta in 2013.
>>257275691
>>257275740
Idea: a visible representation of a conception
yeah you can
>>257272376
Is DotA/Dota 2 a fad? Not at all.
Are other MOBAs a fad? I'd say so.
>>257276510
Silly? This shit is not even close, she looks nothing like Lina from Dota2
>>257269589
>The only reason why I think they did not relinquish full creative control was because DoTA goes against the entire Blizzard philosophy of "easy to play, hard to master".
I never thought of that, good point.
>To this day it is a hard game even with the buttload of guides which we didn't have back in 2006.
That's why I've always been so surprised that DotA is as popular as it is.
>>257276725
Dota wont die for another 10 years or some shit.
LoL is hard to call, it all depends on if Riot is actually gonna start doing work ever.
>>257275076
wow clever shitpost!
>>257276571
Well yeah, with such logic you can still call it "late beta", because your steam dota folder is called "dota 2 beta".
Whatever, newbro, posting 2 russian faggots on the screenshot and calling it early beta. Like they had any chance to get into it.
>>257276579
Here. I made it easy for you.
http://copyright.gov/circs/circ01.pdf
Taken from a government website providing information about copyright.
>>257276914
Can you not read? I said there is little physical resemblance. It doesn't change that Lina shares two abilities with similar names.
The only reason the Laguna Blade is white instead of black and purple is because Valve had trouble making the particle effect stand out enough.
>>257277141
>Me
>New
I got invited to DotA 2 during the first wave of public invites that went out.
Unless you work at Valve or were included in esports before it's release, it's pretty much impossible to have played DotA 2 before me (unless it was by 10 minutes or something).
>>257277345
Post first dotabuff game. You can include practice match.
One of Valve's lawyers must've just then heard about Lina Inverse and told them to erase her last name to prevent somebody in Japan from catching wind of it 15 years later and suing Gaben for honto yen for stealing original character and turning around to invest that money in making a second season of genderbent Slayers.
Fuck you Gaben you should've let them sue you. I want that second season.
>>257277085
Isn't Riot's parent company funding Rgame? Riot could possibly start getting fucked soon.
Yeah, it's going to be a long time until DotA/Dota 2's popularity starts fading away. Valve will probably start working on Dota 3 when that starts happening, and it'll be a game made from the ground up at Valve that's a mixture of Savage 2, Alterac Valley and Monday Night Combat or something.
>>257277472
Practice matches don't show up on dotabuff. Old ones don't anyway.
I know because I tried to find my first Dota 2 game on dotabuff as well once, but it was too early or something.
>>257277345
>public invites
lmao i got even earlier, got a key from my competitive buddy
what now fag
>>257277145
read the definition again please, ideas mean more than just one thing. Please consider some schooling to get your knowledge of the English language to a competent level.
Idea: a visible representation of a conception
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/idea
This form an idea is copyrightable as it is any form of concept put forth and visualized.
