>We already knew that things weren't so hot between Nintendo and its indie guy Dan Adelman, but now Adelman has confirmed that he has left the company after nine years.
>Adelman was banned from posting on Twitter by Nintendo last year, after he spoke ill of the company's region locking exploits. Now Adelman has told Kotaku that he left Nintendo last Friday.
>The industry veteran says that he was frustrated with Nintendo's acts to clamp down on actions that did not gel with its corporate message, such as the banning of his Twitter account.
>"I think people were kind of on pins and needles about anything untoward I might say," he noted. "And every once in a while, I'd give an answer that people didn't like, and some people would freak out, so they tried to scale things back. First they had me do interviews with someone from PR or marketing. Later they just decided that I shouldn't be in the press at all anymore."
>"I had been strongly encouraged to stay off of Twitter — or at least say only things that were clearly safe — so after the region-locking comment they just said I needed to stop completely," he added. "When people started complaining that I wasn't active on Twitter anymore, it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name. I thought that was about the worst idea I'd ever heard, so I left it as is and let the silence speak for itself."
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/222509/Nintendos_indie_guy_Dan_Adelman_has_left_the_company.php
Condense your threads please
>>256320216
>>256320679
Literally who?
>indie guy Dan Adelman
Who?
The tweet(s) that caused NOA to revoke Adleman's Twitter account.
>Nintendo
>Indie guy
A person who doesn't exist lost a job that doesn't exist?
don't care, won't care.
>>256321268
this tweet is barely speaking bad about the region locking in the first place. glad to see nintendo is so open to criticism!
LITERALLY who?
>>256321615
An indie PR guy from what I gather.
>>256320679
>get told about how unhealthy his tie with social media his
>first thing he does once "free" from nintendo is lashing on said social media, to get the approval of his followers.
Can't really clap for that, he put that shit over hiself. Get ready for the next phil fish project incoming.
What games has he made?
Did he actually quit working for nintendo because they wouldn't let him post on twitter. What a fucking beta faggot.
>>256321705
>employer literally suggests having someone use your identity that isn't you
yeah that's nothing to get upset about
so he was just some guy paid to tweet or something?
>>256321815
>expecting any company to let you say whatever you want about them on social media
Fucking McDonalds does the same shit. This guy isn't exactly all that innocent either.
>>256321873
His job was to get indie games on Nintendo platforms, similar to Shahid Ahmad for Sony, or Chris Charla for Microsoft.
>>256322092
see
>>256321268
he wasn't exactly saying NINTENDO IS THE DEVIL FOR REGIONLOCKING ALL THESE GAMES BOYCOTT THEM
jesus fuck, I can't believe people are defending this shit
>>256322116
Oh, but he didn't make any games?
>>256322116
literally no one.
I can do this job and better.
>>256322116
So basicaly just another attention seeking faggot?
Why so much fuzz about it?
>>256322092
>these guys do it, so it must be ok!
Fuck off. Its a shitty rule.
>>256322343
I'm not saying he did. Just about everyone knows that Nintendo is a very anal company when it comes to protecting its image. The guy should have just been more careful about what he said.
>>256322116
Seeing all the good indie game Nintendo didn't have I'm quite happy he's leaving. I wouldn't be surprise half of his revelations are bullshit he made to hype his own departure and become a "martyr" to juice some people from their money later with a kickstarter or something.
>>256322116
>His job was to get indie games on Nintendo platforms
Fucking lel. Good. Hope no more of this shovelware is on the eShop anymore.
Look at this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWdF3b2pV9g
Even the casuals say it's shit. Thanks, Dan!!
>>256322434
>get your position completely quashed, can barely talk to indies in an open environment, stonewalled by shitty out-of-date business practices
>I COULD TOTALLY DO BETTER GUYS
>>256322116
So he did a shitty job, nothing of value was lost
>>256322116
The indies on e-shop were becoming pretty shitty. Saw a couple walking sims. Shit needs some quality control.
>>256322732
>stonewalled by shitty out-of-date business practices
o god the millenial is strong in this post
>employed by nintendo to promote indie games on their platforms
>starts spouting his personal opinions on twitch to the public which happen to be against his employers policies
>gets fired
>/v/ is surprised
this is why people on /v/ will NEVER succeed in business, or hey, even in life.
>>256322732
Yes I can.
He must be the reason why 3ds has no indies.
>>256322784
I think getting shovel knight onto it was good, but thats pretty much all he did that was good right?
>>256322909
no one is surprised, we just like to shitpost against nintendo.
>People bash Nintendo for wanting to keep employees from saying stupid shit that reflects on their company
>But make fun of Microsoft for what happened with Adam Orth
>>256321268
But there was no Japanese SNES.
What the hell is he talking about?
>>256322732
>can barely talk to indies in an open environment,
That's totally a reason why 3ds/wiiu got few indies - because they forbid him to use twitter.
And God help us all if he actually used email or phone calls.
>>256320679
indie games are garbage anyway. if u wanted to play crap like that, just download free phone games from Google play
>>256323058
It'd probably confuse people if he said Famiry Konpyuta Disuku Shisutemu
>>256322909
The guy didn't even get fired. He was just banned using twitter since he showed many times he can't act professionaly enough on it. After a year he decided himselft to pack his bags and go indie.
> quitting your job to be able to use Twitter
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
What a huge faggot hahahahahahaa
>Idiot who can't act professionally finally fired; continues to act unprofessionally
How is this news
>>256320679
Why would this retard leave his job and post this? Does he think this will get him another job immediately, COs don't want to hire a hot mess.
>>256320679
>talk shit about your employers
>expect not to get fired
Top kek manchildren.
>>256322909
Even more he wont even get a pr job for any company anymore, no company likes when their employes bitch on official twitter channel or any social media about them.
I hope he has some other qualifications or he will have to do minimum wage jobs
>>256320679
I hope the indie bubble bursts sometime, Sony is trying to get away with letting indie devs take over the Vita with as many shitty, poorly made budget games as possible so they can focus on porting Vita games to PS4.
I don't want the 3DS to suffer the same fate.
>>256320679
literally who?
>>256322959
Wasnt wii u a kickstarter goal because they were a part of the ones who liked it? He did jackshit, if it was a kickstarter goal
>>256322587
But what he said was helping him do his job.
To interact with indies you need a person, they need to know who you are.
Nobody knew who he was, so indies were not really seeing him as approachable.
Katsuhiro Harada (Tekken guy) said in some interview Japanese companies really don't like, or explicitly disallow, "known" employees using Twitter. He said he gets away with it because he started so early.
>>256322917
He wasn't able to really do anything though.
Nitendo didn't really give him enough space to have that kind of control.
THis problem is well known
Reminder that if this happened under Sony, you fucks would be angry right now.
Fucking Nintendogaf.
He didn't even talk shit about nintendo. He said he can relate to people who find the region lock inconvenient. Which it is.
Do you guys want honesty or do you want lies? Nothing shits me more than dipshit marketing guys who do nothing but lie.
>>256323607
>He said he gets away with it because he started so early.
Is that the same reason Kamiya gets away with it?
>employee is unable to express a lighthearted opinion about the company without getting ostracized and silenced by incompetent management and PR
>/v/ defends Nintendo for having such godawful corporate practices
Oh wait, I forgot, I'm on Nintendogaf. Where Iwata is God, and Nintendo can do no wrong.
>>256323720
His reason is that he is a studio head.
BASED NINTENDO
Is this even newsworthy?
People get laid off for far more curious stuff.
>>256323101
>because they forbid him to use twitter.
They didn't let him engage with indies on a personal level much at all.
There are articles talking about the problem going back months.
Twitter is where a lot of indies operate, its where some announce their games or look for partners.
Its one big networking event that never ends for them.For example the easiest way to get ahold of devolver digital if you are a noteworthy indie, and often even if you are not is their twitter.
>indie devolper fired from Nintendo
looks like Nintendo finally took out the trash
>>256323743
Be unemployed somewhere else kid. No company will ever let employee talking about about them under their name.
>>256323802
maybe because nintendo is the only company has games right now?
Maybe people on /v/ like games?
>>256323841
>Twitter is where a lot of indies operate, its where some announce their games or look for partners.
This just highlight how putrid the "indie scene" has become, though.
>>256323779
And Harada isn't? Chief Producer/Director probably holds the same weight.
>>256323841
>or look for partners.
>>256320679
Looks bad on Nintendo. That this guy left and cited Nintendo douchery as his reason. Region Lock should not be on a system in this day and age. Nintendo are the jews off the video game industry.
>>256323802
Reminder that this is a shop
You can even see a real post that's getting covered up and the "e" is sticking out on the Sakurai image towards the bottom.
>>256323938
>Super Rehashio
>"games"
>>256323998
Because they make use of an effective social network for multiple tasks?
>>256324030
He's probably a bit beta.
>>256323802
Nice editing skills nigger.
>>256323938
>games that I like because they remind me of my childhood are games, and we should only talk about them :)
>games that I don't like aren't games and we shouldn't talk about them because they make me feel uncomfortable :(
>>256322343
>I can't believe people are defending this shit
Who?
>>256323779
And he also knows that he should never bite the hand thats feeding him
>>256324096
twitter is nothing near being an efficient platform for anything. It's a mess, you can't follow complex conversation and you can't post medias, they are using it for eth same reason they make shitty sprite game : the belief that using shit ironically makes it good.
>>256324091
>pay 60(sixty) dollars to do something that can easily be done on a PC assuming you are not retarded.jpg
>>256322116
>still no Spelunky on Wii U.
>>256324119
Compared to Kamyia maybe. Otherwise definetely not.
>>256320679
>We already knew
Did we? I have no idea who this Dan guy is, so how could I know things aren't hot between him and Nintendo?
>>256323143
You are fucking retarded
>>256324361
>quoting n*gger
reported :-(
>>256324361
Announcing reports is against the rules. And actually gets enforced
>>256324280
wii u games aren't $60
>it was suggested that a PR person could just post in my name
Haha, what the fuck, Nintendo?
>>256321268
That's it? Fucking Nintendo, jesus christ.
>>256324434
it's true though, in the past 5 years teh concept of indie game has been fused with "shovelware budget". They make the game look cheap on purpose to fit the self definition of "indie", it's just pathetic at this point, worse than the American "indie" cape comic scene who works on the same logic.
>>256324262
>, you can't follow complex conversation
Which isn't what it is really used for anyway.
You also cannot use it to file your tax return, but thats about as relevant.
>you can't post medias
You mean like videos and such? No, there is youtube for that which you can link with twitter, no single site offers everything but you can connect sites that fill in the black here.
>they are using it for eth same reason they make shitty sprite game : the belief that using shit ironically makes it good.
But thats not why these people tend to choose sprite art, nor is twitter used ironically.
For that they would have to agree with you, and they way they use it shows they don't.
The fact it is effective shows that you're incorrect in that assessment.
BEHEAD ALL
WHO INSULT
NINTENDO
>>256324509
He's going anecdotal for the sake of controversy. When he say "suggested" he literally means "suggested" as in "some nigga told that and got shut down instantly but he still asked it".
>>256323701
Why say it at all? It's obvious that if you say something "against" the company that you work on you'll be punished in some way, you don't need to lie, just don't say anything, but he's a faggot and wants attention so he can't stay quiet even if it's for his job.
>>256324459
I'll happily commit martyrdom to ban that filthy racist shitlord.
>>256324667
Fuck Nintendo for not letting their employees talk shit about them on Twitter.
>>256324646
>Which isn't what it is really used for anyway.
But you said it was good for being your public discussion place. Why change the rules arbitrarily like that?
>>256322116
What a shitty job he did. otherwise there would be Mineycrafta for Wii U and Nintendo would be filthy rich again.
>>256324509
They knew people liked him, but they didn't want to admit why he was liked.
Because he was a person, not a another face for nintendo.
>>256321268
>>256321602
>>256322343
It's standard corporate practices - it douchey, but nintendo isn't being any more douchey than any other corporation.
the key point is probably his agreeing with someone whose name is 'Endregionlock'
My friend who works in PR for a a restaurant chain for example is not advised to make any reference to diseases or poor hygiene practices in any of his written online statements because they don't want their official channel to show up in search results for such subjects. And that's just one of the many, many inane things he has to worry about before making a single goddamn tweet.
>>256324721
Except he wont be banned and you will. have fun.
>>256324361
Epic, epic 4 teh win
>>256324721
>shitlord
>filthy racist
>le literally reddit
>>256320679
Boo hoo. A faggot who works for a company and speaks badly about the company publicly is told he can't speak on the company's behalf anymore.
What a fucking surprise. So unreasonable.
This right here is called entitlement. That faggot didn't have the unabashed right to publicly speak badly of the corporation he worked for.
>>256324820
>>256324732
Holy shit this is maximum droning
>>256324910
If I would talk badly about BMW on my Twitter, they would boot my ass faster than you could imagine.
>>256324752
>But you said it was good for being your public discussion place.
Given how terrible this is written I think you honestly don't understand.
Not all conversations are complex, no start of a conversation is. The start is the most important part, getting the foot in the door so to speak, it needs to be easy and casual.
Like a networking event, sure, more serious talks might continue elsewhere but you still go to the event and you still start many things there.
>>256324910
Where do you think we are?
>>256324909
ITT we bullshit about things we don't know about
Don't worry.
Our friend Ebola will get Nintendo of America soon.
>>256322675
>>256322909
>>256324909
Nintendrones are the absolute WORST people around.
>>256324909
Look at this you cock sucking Nintendo fagboy.
>>256321268
>>256325030
false dichotomy
>>256324820
>It's standard corporate practices
Not for the other indie reps.
They get given freedom on their twitter.
> but nintendo isn't being any more douchey than any other corporation.
That isn't how most indies see it, and that is why nintendo's actions were entirely counterproductive.
>>256320679
This seems like something a petulant child would do lashing out against their parent and not some professional employee who worked at their job for years and had respect enough not to burn bridges or look unprofessional.
>>256325091
>Block out common sense just to shitpost about Nintendo
>>256324820
Of course it's standard practice. What isn't standard practice is having a legion of fandrones defend it.
This is the sort of thing that everyone who isn't corporate should be against.
>>256324909
Now this is shillposting
>>256324910
Imagine this:
>Work at store
>anon wants to buy a X
>Employee tells anon that they shouldnt buy X because X is shit
>anon doesnt buy X so company loses profit
Sure Nintendo is shit when it comes to region locking and shit but when you work for them you dont go flaunting your opinions like an autist
Nintendo is shit, nothing new. Not only are their games garbage but also their policies. I don't understand why there are so many fanatics defending them
>>256325014
>Not all conversations are complex, no start of a conversation is.
So the point stand and you agree, it's a shitty platform if you are an indie group that wants to share ideas with potential fans and investors.
literally who
on second thought i dont really care
>>256325091
>>256325103
why are you people surprised that shittalking the company you work for will have repercussions?
Hell, they didn't even fire the guy
>>256324909
>So unreasonable.
Given they hired him to interact with people exactly as he was doing, to the degree they wanted to put a fake PR version of him in there yeah it is.
This is like hiring a new sports player and demanding they never play the game in public.
>>256325203
>Of course it's standard practice. What isn't standard practice is having a legion of fandrones defend it.
But starting to shitpost over things that's, by your own words, nothing out of the ordinary is perfectly normal?
/v/ - double standards
>>256325137
>Not for the other indie reps.
>They get given freedom on their twitter.
prove it. Let's see Sony's and Microsoft's official indie voice shit over their own system on twitter.
>>256325223
I like how your greentext scenario is entirely fabircated and isn't analogous to what actually happened. Since you know, he didn't actually tell anyone not to buy Nintendo products
>>256325243
>So the point stand and you agree,
No, in fact its exactly the opposite.
Again, just because I cannot use it to file my tax returns doesnt make it shitty.
>>256325304
This is shittalking to you?
>>256321268
>>256325103
He still can't say that dipshit. If someone got a cavity from eating Mc'Flurries or whatever the hell, a Mc'Donalds worker can't tweet "I know your pain there's too much sugar in them I never have them" without getting into trouble.
>>256320849
>>256321615
>>256323491
>>256325265
Sick meme, /b/rothers.
>>256325304
>shittalking the company
You people are fucking morons.
>>256321268
that's it? i thought he was going full retard or something
>>256325308
>to the degree they wanted to put a fake PR version of him
two post and it's already from "someone suggested" to "they hired someone to do it"
Meanwhile on the NOA twitter.
Nintendo of America is full of shit and everyone knows this.
So its just like what Sony did when thier main spokesperson was on a comercial with a wii.
>guy ciritcises nintendo over jewish business practices
>side with nintendo
this place is fucking infested with nintendo manchildren
>>256325402
He is basically part of PR, in that field you always have to walk on eggshells
>>256325508
Yes except in Nintendo's case their employee wasn't working for another company
>>256325402
yes anon. If you're working for a company, specially as a PR guy, you do not want to associate any sort of bad image with them at all.
Not saying it isn't stupid, but it shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone
>Microsoft practically did the same thing
>/v/ laughs at the guy that got fired
>Literally every company on Earth with any common sense cracks down on employees doing stupid shit on social media
>Nintendo does it
>they're somehow in the wrong
never change /v/
>>256325340
>voice shit over their own system
You think saying you were not a fan of region locking some 20 years ago is talking shit?
But the fact you are asking this says something to me.
Do you even know who you're asking about?
>>256325508
>b-b-b-but sony!
dumb nintendo fanboy subhuman are the worst.
>>256325393
who gives a shit about your strawman taxe, you told it's a good platform for advertising their indie projects, and it's not by any means you even agreed with that, that you can't neither have conversation nor post media on it. So what exactly does it offer to them except the gratification of "being on twitter" that is about the same as your grandma feeling young for "using facebook"?
>>256325047
>>256325091
>>256325103
ITT posts, faggots who have never held any kind of authoritative position where their decisions actually mattered.
This is standard corporate practice in any industry. The guy is paid to do his job. He decided that publicly shitting on Nintendo as a corporate representative was a good idea and he got rekt for it.
They were actually nicer than most corporations because most corporations would have just fired his dumbass.
Any time you work for someone, things you say and do reflect on the company. Just because you faggots are too used to saying whatever the fuck you want on 4chan, doesn't mean that's how the real world has ever worked or ever will work.
Sorry you fedora tipping faggots don't understand what it means to uphold a public image.
>>256320679
so what has this guy done that makes this newsworthy? like everyone has been saying Literally who?
>>256325483
>they wanted
Nintendrone confirmed for illiterate
>>256321268
How does this even classify shittalking your own company
Its just him saying "I know where you're coming from"
>>256325509
Nobody is saying region locking is okay, just that the guy shouldn't whine that Nintendo didn't allow him to use twitter after he criticised them.
>>256325654
>He decided that publicly shitting on Nintendo
Opinion discarded
>>256325654
Posts like that actually benefited Nintendo's public image
Him leaving is a big hit
>>256325326
That's not a double standard at all. Just because it's a standard corporate practice doesn't mean I don't have the right to bitch about it. Corporations, especially Japanese corporations, do a lot of morally reprehensible things. It's our duty as consumers to call out corporations when they pull bullshit like this.
You're no better than an unpaid shill if you defend this.
>>256325647
>who gives a shit about your strawman taxe,
That is exactly my point.
>you told it's a good platform for advertising their indie projects,
No I didnt.
Stop making up what I said.
>that you can't neither have conversation nor post media on it.
You can do both of those things.
>>256325567
>Microsoft practically did the same thing
Microsoft did nothing like this, the employee was being a general douchebag and talking shit on people with bad internet while defending the xbone like mad
this was just a casual comment, they're nothing alike you retard
>>256321268
>Japanese SNES
>Not just removing the physical part that enforced the region lock
Dumbass.
>>256324910
>>256325030
>Common corporate practice
>Everyone in the thread says it's douchey but nothing new
>Dr-drones!
It makes me happy to know that people not over reacting upsets you.
>>256325647
Do you really not understand twitter?
> you can't neither have conversation nor post media on it.
You can't neither? Fuck you sould old, being so fucking ignorant isn't helping.
>>256325567
Yes because defending always online DRM and arguing everyone should have 24/7 internet to play games is the exact same thing as sympathising with someone who's against region lock. Totally the same.
Stay retarded anon.
>>256325654
>publicly shitting on Nintendo
He said "I feel your pain" in regards to region locking.
You Nintenniggers will defend Iwata and Miyamoto to the grave.
>>256325658
Its less about him personally as much as its about how this scenario reflects on Nintendo as a company. Is it unique to Nintendo? Probably not, but just saying "Oh but EVERY company does it" does not make it necessarily acceptable. Fanboys like to believe Nintendo is some goody-two-shoes when it comes to their attitude but its events like this that remind us all theyre just as much of a cunt as anyone else.
>>256325808
>One was fired, one told not to tweet anymore
Also not the same
>>256322116
>His job was to get indie games on Nintendo platforms
>only Few good indie titles get in
WOW, ITs fucking nothing.
Hes basically like Reggie, except Reggie is a NoA president who actuallys gets all the big named games localized. Pretty sure Nintendo will replace him with someone who is better.
>>256325689
He's speaking as a representative of Nintendo. He has to fully support the region lock through any social channel even if he personally disagrees with it.
>>256325692
I think actively keeping employees from saying what they want about your company is a worse image than letting your employee criticize you openly.
Censorship is bad, isn't it?
>>256325783
Yet you act so offended that someone actually calls you out on being a damn shitposter that you can't help but pull the drone card after all.
/v/ - hatedrones
>>256325871
>You Nintenniggers will defend Iwata and Miyamoto to the grave.
Not the case here though.
This is Nintendo of America.
>>256325871
>Nintenniggers
>Nintentoddlers
If you're going to insult, at least get the insult right.
Thread is over, go home everyone.
>>256325895
And whoever they replace him with will be unable to do their job just like he was.
NINtendo is notorious about this.
>>256325616
>waaaaah, you cant point out hypocrisy
fuck off fanboy
>>256325871
yes anon. Saying something negative about the company you work for is grounds for being let go as a PR guy. Guy was lucky he just got a twitter restriction.
This is NoA by the way. Those two don't work there
>>256325938
>hatedrones
Yeah any chance of you being taken seriously is completely gone now. In case there was any before.
>>256325912
Not as long as nobody knows you are censoring them.
Most contracts even include that kind of stuff, PR and people who out themselves as company representatives are'nt allowed to criticise the company, no matter what they thing.
>>256324159
>projecting
>sympathize with the userbase that's against regionlocking
>get fired
b-based nintendo-sama right g-guys?
>>256325912
It's not a one way street sweetheart.
>>256325972
well that settles it. another series of neogaf false flagging and disinfo subverted.
>>256326054
>Not as long as nobody knows you are censoring them.
He suddenly stopped talking to indie devs.
Everyone knew what happened.
>>256325972
>B-but NintendoGAF!
Holy shit this is hilarious. NeoFAGs need to fuck off.
>>256320679
>Nintendo's
>indie
What?
>>256325808
>>256325870
Adam Orth did stupid shit on Twitter, this Nintendo guy did stupid shit on Twitter. Nintendo is almost Disney-tier when it comes to shit like this, the guy should have known that shit since he was employed there. Even saying something as innocuous as >>256325447 what that anon said can get you reprimanded on a job. When you speak on social media, especially in a PR position, YOU represent the company. He was saying shit that went against what Nintendo's policies and got rightfully canned for it. I'm not defending region locking, but I'm also not going to be retarded and sit here trying to defend an idiot that went against basic protocol.
>>256326154
No, you need to fuck off
Who is Dan Adelman? Seriously, what has he done?
>>256325895
>except Reggie is a NoA president who actuallys gets all the big named games localized
>>256326192
grammar is too much for the lot obsessed with discrediting nintendo.
>itt: whats a contract?
>>256322528
Because it shows that Sony really is #ForThePlayers and that Nintendo isn't.
>>256326207
>and got rightfully canned for it.
Except he didn't get canned.
He left.
And by shutting him up, nintendo closed themselves off to indies in a big way, they became seen as unhelpful and unapproachable.
>>256326207
>He shouldn't of done that! It's his fault!
Can you believe these nintendrones?
>>256325912
>I think actively keeping employees from saying what they want about your company is a worse image than letting your employee criticize you openly.
You do realize almost every company will fire people for criticizing them publicly?
>>256326054
I understand its a rule-- its been said constantly in this thread.
Its just a shitty rule, is all.
Especially when this happens and people find out about it anyway, now everyone looks like shit.
>>256325972
hahaha this is just another fucking neofag thread.
Don't piss inside the tent.
>>256325895
>Reggie is a NoA president who actuallys gets all the big named games localized
>>256326207
You're retarded, the "stupid shit" are on almost completely different levels
One is repeatedly talking shit on consumers, the other is empathizing with one in a casual conversation
How delusional can you get?
>>256325689
>Guy a: region lock is bad it should be ended
>PR:yeah i understand you and you are right.
If he agrees with someone bitching about reegion lock it also implies that he is also bitching about it and leads to him cirticising his own companies policies
>>256325871
> You Nintenniggers will defend Iwata and Miyamoto to the grave.
Not only is this Nintendo of America we're speaking about, I'm sure those two don't have a hand in every decision ever made in the company. There are thousands of decisionmakers. I'm pretty sure Iwata and Miyamoto don't even know who the guy is.
Not that I really give a fuck, just stop pretending a multi million dollar company company is run by two people.
>>256325972
>Detalhes
>Responder
>Curtir
hue
>>256325692
nintendo isn't his mom dipshit
>>256325654
>He decided that publicly shitting on Nintendo as a corporate representative was a good idea
>shittting
>Droning so hard that takes a comment out of proportion
Oh look someone pretending to know about authority without actual evidence of he himself being on an authoritative position. Well at least you're not going to use a buzzword in your argument.
>fedora tipping
Oh there it is the mark of someone who is every word he is complaining about.
The comment was nothing but the truth, trying to censor it by not letting the guy communicate to the public again was a dumb move and will bite them in the ass now that the guy is allowed to speak. I am sure if you worked with nintendo your nose would be brown and you would speak wonders of region lock but too bad in the "real wold" you're just another drone.
>>256326332
>Its just a shitty rule, is all.
The reason it exists is so employers don't publicly humiliate and damage the company they work for.
It might have been used to striktly in this case, but he wasn't even let go, just told not to use twitter.
>>256325875
Oh okay. I never gave a shit about Nintendo anyway so they can go bankrupt for all I care.
I'm probably a nintendrone but this is absolute bullshit and there's no defending it.
Is that actually legal? Can your employers seriously control your twitter?
>>256326310
Yes, I realize this, that's why I didn't specifically target Nintendo with that statement. I don't think its a good policy, and every other company doing it is guilty as well.
>>256326240
You flame in every thread even remotely related to consoles about how Nintendo is shit and LE SONY ALWAYS WINS XD, shill shitty movies, and piss all over video games that aren't on the Playstation.
I talk about video games.
I can tell who is more apt to be on the board about video games very clearly.
>B-but you're just a Nintendrone!
>S-sony always wins!
>>256322343
You obviously haven't had a proper job yet.
Even small companies have a social media policy.
The guy signed it when he started, or when the policy was adopted, if he was there before it started, and refused to sign it, he'd be out of a job.
It's petty, but it stops the xbox "deal with it" shitstorm from happening.
>>256326497
No, but they can fire you for publicly talking about them.
>>256326375
Saying something as innocent as "I agree with you about region locking" to a guy whose handle is Endregionlocking is "stupid shit" in Nintendo's eyes. Read the entire post before spouting how delusional someone is.
>>256325895
>>256326371
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
>>256325972
FALSE FLAG
INDIE LOCALIZE GUY IS NEOGAF SCUM
FALSE FLAG
INDIE LOCALIZE GUY IS NEOGAF SCUM
FALSE FLAG
INDIE LOCALIZE GUY IS NEOGAF SCUM
WARNING! THIS THREAD HAS GONE MAXIMUM BAIT!
WARNING! THIS THREAD HAS GONE MAXIMUM BAIT!
>>256326310
He barely even criticized them, he basically just said "I feel you bro"
He even dropped that he owned an SNES
>>256326497
Do you not know what a NDA is?
Educate yourself.
>ITT: sonyggers pretend theres a heavy nintendo bias on /v/
just go back to neogaf
>MUH SOCIAL MEDIA
>Oh no, I can't talk shit about someone who pays me!
What a fucking retard. If he REALLY wanted to stand up against Nintendo he should have left day 1.
What a fucking goon.
>>256326423
how do u no faggot
>>256326516
>le anime face
Are you literally retarded?
>>256326332
>Its just a shitty rule, is all. Especially when this happens and people find out about it anyway, now everyone looks like shit.
Even if it wasn't a rule it wouldn't be ideal. Even good companies that would alllow tweets like his would look like total crap because everytime something negative happens their employees would be criticizing them.
Whereas scummy companies would keep their employees silent and would appear better.
>>256326516
>projecting this hard against people who are literally anonymous strangers
This guy.
>>256326497
>Can your employers seriously control your twitter?
Have you never worked in a big company? Those fuckers have their eyes on your Twitter and Facebook, they probably came to an agreement to close his Twitter account before firing him, at least until now that he HAS been fired.
>>256326154
>>256326347
>>256326585
samefag
yes, because it's inconceivable that someone who works with nintendo would visit neogaf, a popular website
>>256326497
>Can your employers seriously control your twitter?
yes, if its the profile linking it to you. they are also allowed to check your facebook and other blogs to be sure you aren't shitting on them in their back too.On a legal point of view, it's really legal and he could have faced way more than being fired if he insisted and disobeyed.
>>256326602
Go back to nintendogaf
Oh wait, you're already here
>>256326497
Perfectly legal. They didn't fire him for it but if they did, he probably had a contract that said you can be fired for saying stuff against the company. Wouldn't be the first time or last that this happens
Has this guy brought over any actual games? I mean one of the shovelknight stretch goals was to get it on Wii U.
>>256326663
see
>>256325972
>before firing him, at least until now that he HAS been fired.
He wasn't fired.
>>256326371
>Big named
dont be a faggot, there is nothing big named about fatal frame
>>256326497
if ur statements represent the company then i would argue that yes we can
>>256324909
lots of people butthurt by this post but this is common practice. its sort of like going and adding your boss on facebook and talking shit about him and suddenly being buttmad that you got fired
>indieshit
Why should I give a fuck?
>>256326607
He wasn't talking shit, he was empathizing with a consumer, how is that a shitty practice?
>>256326726
Oh my bad.
>>256326591
I'm aware of what that is. A contract to stop someone from releasing confidential information to another party. But does valid criticism of a company's practices really count as "confidential?" I don't think anyone learned what region locking was through that guy's tweets.
Whether or not it's legal is not the question I guess, since it's happened before. I still think it's bullshit. Nothing I or anyone can do about it though.
>>256326694
well if this place is so bad, why the fuck are you stillhere?
>>256326673
try again
>>256326516
>>/a/
>>256325203
You'd have to wait for something truly egregious though to voice your complaints, because otherwise it just looks like standard whining.I mean the gaming community already has the reputation bitching loudly but buying it anyway, so it's not like this really accomplishes anything.
>>256326483
>>256326629
I understand the negativity bit, I really do; companies want their employees to keep the company looking good.
But I don't like lies. If the people you are paying have to lie about you publicly to keep your image then I think something is wrong.
I'm probably being naive but I don't really care, I think I'm within my rights to not like being lied to.
>>256326814
>Whether or not it's legal is not the question I guess, since it's happened before. I still think it's bullshit. Nothing I or anyone can do about it though.
If it didn't exist, employees would do much worse things. It might have been a little strikt, but it was only not allowing him to use twitter.
>>256326876
>He can't even link to other boards!
>>256321268
You have to be fucking kidding me. This is how bad the video game industry has gotten - empathizing with fans is now unacceptable and grounds for termination.
I thought Ninty was actually one of the cooler companies too.
>I saw my role as essentially having two parts. On the one hand, I was working for Nintendo inside the indie development community. On the other, I was working for the indie community inside Nintendo. So yeah, I absolutely did try to fight internally to change whatever I could. There were a ton of policies that have been updated and improved. I already mentioned about that office requirement. It was crazy. There were people whose job it was to look up addresses in Google maps to see if the business address was a home or an office building. And if it looked a little residential, they'd ask for photos. There would be e-mail threads with literally a few dozen back and forth exchanges about whether the couch in someone's office was really used for business purposes or did someone really live there? That policy, thankfully, is gone.
NINTENDO LOL
>>256326483
it's still a pretty big overreaction to censor someone for a year for a comment as insignificant as that
he even mentioned owning an SNES
>>256320679
Honestly more companies should just blanket ban the vidya industry from posting stupid shit on Twitter.
I'm tired of the manchildren making my games being immature fuckwads and making the industry look bad.
If you're in the industry, and if you're reading this, don't shitpost on a twitter account linked to your identity.
Shitpost on a different twitter account, or on fucking 4chan, or reddit, or wherever.
Just don't fucking do it with your real god damn name. You look like a fucking toolbag.I hope Phil Fish never has a job again.
>>256326618
>>256326876
>complaining about anime reaction faces on 4chan
I'm not even a weeb but you're retarded
>>256326962
All PR is lying, sadly.
the rule for this kind of thing is either say something nice, or say nothing at all.
>>256326979
>
Bait
>>256326979
Not that I'm agreeing with Nintendo, but he wasn't fired for it, he was asked to stay off of twitter.
He left later for other reasons.
If the private company you work for doesn't like what you post on twitter, delete it or find another job.
Fucking commies
>>256327027
Pretty much. But they might have been afraid of it being a slippery slope, and tried to deal with the problem before there is one.
>>256326838
There are some good threads from time to time that aren't full of nintendrones
>all these dumb assniggers itt
why is /v/ so fucking dumb?
>hurr durr they fired a brotha 4 a tweet! what the fuck man
This negro was obviously not fired for a fucking tweet, that shit is just an excuse to get rid of him.
So there is a lot of jewish shitposting regarding videogame companies
But who IS the true mastermind behind the media control?
>>256324585
Or because they'd rather focus on good gameplay mechanics than sparkly graffix. Many AAA titles are the other way around.
Guys, guys. Shut the fuck up for just a second.
Why do we care?
So what if a company tells an employee to stop using Twitter? So what if some asshat who didn't do anything wrong got fired?
It wasn't us.
Now go play video games, you crazy kids.
NDF working overdrive
>the people who defend Nintendo (not in this case here because that was just a misunderstanding) are maximum drones
>the people who hate them are normalfag NEOGAFfags who want 4chan to be Facebook 2.0
Can't we kill both sides?
>>256326979
This
Nintendo are clearly just money grubbing assholes
>>256327009
>That policy, thankfully, is gone.
Not especially a good thing, most indie "projects" are scams so having an actual physical location when you claim to be on a big project seems like the minimum requirement to be respected. Indie games are still made by companies, they should be accountable just like any other companies, if only to make the possible contracts legal.
>>256325574
You don't need to agree with every decision your employers makes but you don't need to talk about this too, you can just stay out of the topic.
The reason is simple, journalists, they can use shit like that to make click bait articles and damage the company's name. If he can't think for a second about it he can't have freedom to speak in name of the company.
>>256327148
Yeah if it went any further it could potentially be:
"Even Nintendo employees widely disagree with WiiU and 3DS region lock" plastered on Kotaku, IGN etc.
>>256327009
What the fuck
>>256326936
I don't expect much to come out of this at all. I just hope people realize that Nintendo is not the goody-two-shoes company that they imagine it is.
