>I'm studying video game design
>I'm attending videogame development at an Ivy League college
After student loans, the only option is to work for EA...
Why shouldn't you want to follow your dream? Do you really aspire to become a workdrone?
I'm studying the art of audit ch3cking.
I was going to study video game design but I've changed my mind and is now instead going study to become a master of science in engineering with focus on technical computer science. Did I do good?
>>256166168
Sure anon,It doesn't matter either way, you'll never have time or energy for vidya anyway
>>256164581
>tfw my socially inept brother is trying to pursue a "video game design degree" at DeVry.
>tfw his mom (my step mom) encourages him (because he is actually taking some initiative for once.)
>tfw don't have the heart to tell him what a waste of time it will be, let alone it's at DeVry.
>girl at my work studying computer games graphics
>has never played Zelda
>>256165676
>studying video game design
>employment by anyone
>I'm studying
>meet somebody with a Performing Arts degree
>I'm studying this 5
>>256164581
>mfw people at friday night magic all study video game design
>they must all assume I do
>they all seem shocked when I say I am studying law
>implying you can't ruin your life with vidya and also attempt to study something that isn't complete shit.
I kek internally every time.
>>256166951
>I can't get this 5
>No college degree, fun life with shit pay.
>College degree, boring bus life, with adequate pay.
Sometimes I worry my law degree was a waste of time.
I have a friend who's convinced all his other friends to join him in an online video game dev course accredited at AIM.
I live in Australia, which has a fuck-all video games industry. The course is giving him a $40K AUD debt to pay off for the next decade. For reference, that's 20K short of a Medicine or Law degree in Australia.
I wish I had sensible friends...
>>256165676
>Needing structured school environment to follow your dream
Do YOU really aspire to become a workdrone?
>>256165652
>EA
>work
Take the job, do basically nothing and enjoy the money.
>>256165676
Let me spell it out for you, just so we can make sure that nobody tries to spin a toxic opinion about a video game degree. By and large, these degrees are worthless.
Industry powerhouses hire "talent" with multidisciplinary skills in coding and design, and tangible experience. Not a piece of paper from a mom-and-pop accredited video game special school.
These institutions are scams. The kids who fall into these scams more often than not come out of pocket and with no direction in life. At least an IT degree can set you working in a computer repair shack for the rest of your life.
>>256167039
>2014
>College degree
>adequate pay
I have some bad news for you, Anon. The baby boomers win once again.
>>256164581
that's a pretty legit career nowadays, grandpa
>>256169734
>Assuming overspecialised degree = career job in the industry
How's your video game school going, son?
>>256164581
>friend studied CG Animation
>now working in San Fran making above average money
>works in high rise surrounded by glass windows with a beautiful view of the city
>gets to finish his work in a few days and take the rest of the week off
>being tapped to work on projects for AAA video game franchises
Now with that being said, if video games aren't something you absolutely love or you're just meh about your craft and not about always bettering yourself, learning on your own, and constantly evolving - yea you're going to fucking fail in the industry.
>>256167007
Engineerfag here, it's a laugh when people study vidya. It's a hobby not a job. Realistically you have to be top of your field to get work, most people aren't top of their field.
>>256169734
But you don't need a degree in that. What companies care when working in game development/programming is your portfolio.
A employer doesn't give a fuck if you went to Full Sail, what they want is proof that you made vidya and actually have experience under your belt.
>I went to college
>Oh yeah, what did you study?
>a bachelors of acting
The amount of these people that actually exist is mindblowing
>>256170247
>A employer doesn't give a fuck if you went to Full Sail
Yeah, they do.
Don't want to rain on your guyses parade, but all STEM degrees - your place of education matters A LOT, a degree from Full sail is worth literally nothing compared to a degree from Penn or Berkley. Not even exageratting, your degree will be absolutely worthless.
>graduated in engineering
>no problems in finding a job
>tfw I fucking hate engineering
>>256165652
> student loans
So this is an american thing?
How much does going to university cost in America?
I'm basically studying for free.
>doing real degree
>friend quits it degree to do vidya degree
>convinces four others to join him
>invites me to join him
>refuse
>continue receiving updates on him
>two years into degree and still nogaems
>slowly watching this trainwreck unfold
i wish i could stop this
Maybe I'm just retarded but I always thought game design classes are for folks who already knew how to make a game and just need to learn how to spice it up, like for people who are absolutely new to the whole video game thing and haven't played a game in their entire life.
Is this the rebirth of shitty Quentin clones
He wasn't even that good of a troll you chucklefucks, /v/ just hadn't seen any decent scale trolling in a while and it got newfags.
>tfw a Geology major
>gain the right to make rock related puns
Though I shouldn't take it forgranite.
>>256170662
No, it's a cookie-cutter degree industry now with a substantial backing, mostly profiting from kids with naive dreams of making the next Minecraft.
If you are actually interested in game design, don't forget to study it independently. These university courses probably entail a lot of good game design topics that actually matter when making a game. You just don't learn how to code (and thus are unable to get employed)
>Studying software engineering because I want to make software and work on interesting shit
>80% of my class is people who want to make video games
The fact that I'm so shit at math and am barely passing while these people are cruising through is what is most infuriating.
>>256170694
I don't care about quentin so much as threads like these have the potential to turn into /v/ - Job Counselling, which is neat.
>>256170694
>implying quentin was wrong
>implying video game dev degrees aren't a waste of money
hheh nice one
>>256164581
I actually just met with a college class of video game design majors.
The very first topic to come up was diversity in the videogame industry.
Is it a good idea to study English literature?
Currently unemployed with high school IT level education, no chance for employment.
>>256170820
As long as these threads hopefully have the effect of getting the notion that vidya degrees are a bad fucking idea into people's heads, I'm not complaining.
>>256170807
Wut.
Software engineering has so little maths involved in it.
>>256170807
>The fact that I'm so shit at math and am barely passing while these people are cruising through is what is most infuriating.
You know, maybe these people actually work for their degree instead of posting on 4chan
>>256170929
It's not going to get you a better chance at employment, if that's what you're thinking.
>>256171057
Fuck off, I have shitposting to do, I don't have time to study.
> wanting to make vidya
Have fun being treated like shit, overworked, underpayed, and good luck to you if you want to enjoy playing games ever again
>>256166168
Why not just do CE?
>>256171014
What is someone, that wants to get into the industry, supposed to do then?
>Studying a shitty degree
>Be depressed as fuck, no motivation
>Went to another country to study classical animation for a year
>Happy as fuck
>Wake up early every day to go and continue
>No bullshit subjects
>Never been this happy
>It's gonna be hell to find a job for that today
>It's the only thing that makes me go on in life
Should I just call it quits after finishing school now?
>>256171123
You know that question "if money was not an object, what would you do? "
I want to listen to music, nothing else.
I do however like writing so I'm just wondering where that puts me
>>256171359
>Make video games by yourself, in your spare time
>Get a degree in software engineering if it's that important to you
>Apply to jobs in video game companies with a portfolio of games you have created/interned/worked on
That's literally the only way, there is absolutely no degree that will allow you to enter the video game industry without what I just listed and SE > Video game design anyday.
>>256171414
Why not become an author then
>>256164581
>I'm making shitty threads on /v/
>tfw I have no fucking idea what I want to do with my life after I finished college
>tfw currently in NEET mode
>>256171027
I don't know mate, not this guy but I study CS, and after 2 years I had calculus 1, 2, 3, linear algebra, logics, set theory, discreet mathematics, probabilistic methods and others.
>>256171260
That's pretty much almost every jobs though
Also just like books or TV, video game is great for delivering creator's thoughts and heart. The only thing that's stopping it to accomplish anything is because of horrible work ethnic and games die meaningless death.
>>256171756
Does anyone remember that guy who'd post his jizz collection every year? He kept them in 2L plastic bottles. The oldest ones were a deep yellow colour
>>256171586
Sort of want that but I don't have many places to go to.
Failed swedish so i can't get into any schools here.
>>256171903
Computer science is not software engineering.
Computer science is directly orientated to the more mathematic side/theoretical side of software and computer engineering.
Software Engineering almost purely programming and software engineering, design, development etc.
>>256165676
If you want to work in video games get a computer science degree you fucking idiot, video game design degrees are useless
>>256170702
Gneiss pun, I couldn't find a single fault in it.
Hey /v/ I'm coming out of neetdome. What's a degree I can go into that's fun and that's not stem?
>>256171903
Do they do signals and systems in CS?
Because that shit is fucked.
>>256169637
>At least an IT degree can set you working in a computer repair shack for the rest of your life
An IT degree can provide you with a whole variety of options and they're not just related to hardware stuff. You'd actually have more of a chance getting into gaming design/development with one of these than you would "studying video game design".
>>256171937
you don't need to go to school to be an author, anon. i personally feel that you can't teach somebody 'good' creative writing- it's something you just can or can't do
>>256171756
Looks like a burnt lasagna
>Enrolled into Electrical engineering
>really dislike it, but don't want to drop out because my parents really want me to do it
>Working on a project in the lab with 5 other people
>mfw I have nothing to contribute
>>256171368
Most people that graduate college don't find jobs suited to their degrees. They end up doing other shit.
But hey, there are people dumber than you that got well paying jobs. Just keep trying and that 1% chance of a good job will eventually come.
>>256172427
How far in are you?
>>256172373
No idea how to start or where to go.
Besides, I've noticed that people don't listen to those without a degree of some sort
>>256169091
2k Australia usually has quite a few positions open, including lots of entry level ones
They make pretty decent games as well
>CS degree
>game design class, offered for the first time
>they have to book a bigger room because so many people are attending
>publish their material on the intranet of the university
>one whole lecture was about different suspense curves
I should have taken this, it was an easy A
>>256172427
I'm >>256170416 and it was the same for me, now I have no idea what to do and I'm thinking about studying something I actually enjoy next year.
>>256164581
At least he's not studying Digital Media.
That is the most useless degree along with gender studies.
>>256172218
Network security.
I work in network security and I sit on my ass for 8-10 hours a day doing next to nothing, and I get paid pretty damn well.
>>256172239
>signals
Had something called Theory of Signals and Informations. Mostly about enthropy of signals, transinformation, signal coding and shit like that.
>systems
Yup. System calls, synchronization, file systems, memory.
They weren't really that hard though.
>>256172218
What things do you like anon?
And what is wrong with STEM?
>>256172427
how come you don't like it? I'm really enjoying it myself, and the challenging work makes it engaging.
Bachelor of Journalism here.
I sincerely hope I don't end up as a shitty video game writer. Fuck, that would be embarrassing.
>Lazy, workshy friend is studying video game degree
>He almost got rejected because the university has high entrance requirements for that course
>They did it because they get flooded with fuckwits fresh out high-school that don't realise it's hard work to make a good game
>The worthless degree is hard to get into because of oversaturation
>mfw
>>256164581
>Mad Men reaction face
GL anon
>>256172950
>Journalism
Dying industry. you're fucked anon.
>>256172895
It's really hard, too much mathematics and really not something I enjoy doing anyway.
>>256172562
Second year
>mfw someone looks down on me for being a NEET and getting autism bux, yet they're going to school for vidya design, liberal arts, art, acting, journalism, philosophy or some other stupid shit.
>>256172998
hownewru
>>256173309
At least Journalism is an actual industry.
>>256173389
As if blogging could be taken seriously
>>256173389
>Journalism is an actual industry.
>>256164581
>tfw I did study game design
>>256167007
>working on contract for a start up game studio as 3D artist for a couple of friends
>people at fnm outright ask for me to hook them up with some contacts so they can pitch game ideas
I'd quit magic, but watching these people get super upset over losing a game is fun.
>>256173559
and what do you do now?
>>256173559
He looks like that fucking wood elf from Morrowind. Forgath that loses his ring.
>>256173452
>>256173470
News media is still prevalent in all societies. Just because you're a brainwashed STEM faggot doesn't make this not true.
>tfw studying a bachelors in network security
W-will it be worth it?
>tfw majoring in FrenchYes, it's part of a liberal arts degree.I'm also doing a law degree so there is a greater chance of career than most
>>256172750
What exactly do you actually do though besides "next to nothing"? Like, what does the job entail?
>Doing video game art degree
>Learning 3D modelling, texturing, animation skinning, lighting and rendering
>Building semi-decent portfolio
>Friend on games design degree says "when we graduate, people like you'll make the games I tell you to"
>>256172834
I like video games. I don't like stem personally, and I know this well because high school was some high ranking stem focused place parents forced me to go to and that stuff never clicked, but I respect it.
>>256173638
Well im currently unemployed working on my own games
I don't even want an industry job and yes I knew before hand the degree it self was worthless
>mfw people on my course thought the degree would get them a design job
>>256173946
Lock stuff? Patrol a little?
>tfw doing a paralegal/legal office admin degree
>not super interesting
Meh. I literally can't think of anything else I'd like to do.
>>256173829
>>256172750
Do you just dick around on 4chan all day? If so, i'm glad I'm studying it
>>256174008
Link your prototypes anon, I want to see what a design degree can do for you
My computer science studies begin next week.
Did i fuck up?
I'm getting a Science degree in Sign-Language interpretation, I like communicating so I'd thought it'd be a good fit, plus people think I'm a great person (which I'm not)
Teaching myself a few languages and my ultimate goal is to be a foreign language/American Sign Language translator.
>>256171368
I wish I was you anon. I'm stuck in this 3rd world college taking an arts related program and 80 percent of the subjects are bullshit either because of the teachers or the subjects themselves. I still remember when I was in high school wanting to learn animation and watching them cool as fuck stick fights. I don't know anymore.
>>256165676
>going to eletronic game colage
>you want to be poor?
>then try to be a gane designer
> you want money?
> then become a artist or a programer
> you want to graduate?
> better be good at both
Ok then
>>256174175
It's fine. You can always change if you hate it.
>>256173992
>friend goes into a game design degree for an ALIENWARE LAPTOP of all things
>has 2 kids, a wife and job prospects
>we live in Australia, where there is no such thing as a video game industry
his wife is going to love that laptop
>americans with their entitlement to being rich as fuck
I hate this, I'd be happy doing what I love even if I was just getting poor pay.
>>256173829
>mfw I'm going to start studying network administration and security this fall
>>256174175
Dude, it all depends on how hard you work.
I have two buddies, both who studied CS. One busted his ass to learn everything inside and out, and one was a lazy shit who played vidya games all day.
Guess which one has a programming job at a solar panel company, and which one works at Burger King.
>>256173470
How is journalism not an actually industry. I'm not dumb enough to actually study it (commerce here) but like, every city has at least five newspapers and every town has at least one, not to mention websites and news networks. In terms of useless degrees, it really ranks pretty high. Certainly higher than "english" or "video game design"
>>256174112
not going to link anything as its all named
The course it self wasn't so bad for what I wanted which was learning the basics of content creations (3d art and animation, Frontend etc) and working with others.
All the design lectures were utter shite, Game design is common sense so you can't really teach it.
>tfw going to uni next year but i will turn 21 in the first year
I hope im not too old
>>256174175
Same here brah. We're all gonna make it.
>>256174257
Only game studio in Brisbane off the top of my head is that team which made fruit ninja.
Thanks Queensland.
>>256174430
Fucking this; simply put, the more you put into your studies, the more you will get out of it.
>>256173946
Monitor servers on the network and resolve issues that come up. Most of the time the issues involve basic shit like monitoring free disk space to make sure they don't fall under the set parameters set by the company.
I suppose my job is technically server admin, but when they offered me the job they said it would be in network security and that's what my resume is going to say.
>>256174462
Same, I have the same fear of being too old as well.
>>256174462
I did the same exact thing, don't worry- aside from the occasional 'old man' jibe, there's people who were starting with me over 25
Never too old for bideojuegoes
Thinking of getting a degree in computing security - Anyone know what it's like?
Seems like it'll be useful as fuck as well as being slightly easier than just straight-up programming.
>>256173309
Don't you have some threads about muh wageslaves shitposting to make on /pol/
>>256174557
>>256174257
Creative Assembly has a huge branch in australia
>>256174462
>britbong
>miss 2 years of school for family issues
>18 years old and I just left highschool
>going to college
>2 years older than everyone else who will be 16
I dropped out of high school at 16 for stupid rebellious reasons (as in, I study and test well I was just too young and rebellious to realize the importance of it). I am now getting a part time job to hold me through August when I can start GED prep classes then I'll be going to a community college to study computer science with the idea pf advancing in 3D animation and programming. Maybe creative writing on the side. I plan on eventually starting up some old prpjects I had with an old friend in animation while working on a video game as a side hobby. Then somewhere along the way find something that'll allow me to get sufficient money while allowing me to pursue my life goal pf traveling the world and doing dangerous adventurous shit, at which point I'd abandon all else.
Rate my life plans, and tell me if and where I'm being stupid
>>256174070
I can't use 4chan on my work computer due to them having McAfee, but I am able to bring my own laptop in and that gets unrestricted access to the internet.
You don't know bliss until you've spent a day torrenting shit on industry-level internet.
>>256166681
Won't you feel silly if he actually does something with it.
>Doing well in a dual software development/IT security degree
>Haven't worked a day in my life and have nothing except for the degree to put on my resume
How fucked am I?
>>256174764
I wish you luck.
>he studies ethical hacking
>>256174967
I'm in the same boat, I'm 19 and starting in 2 weeks and I've never had a job, mostly because I never needed money because I don't buy a lot of shit.
>>256174287
>I would be happy
So you aren't happy? Well at least you have a high paying job to make up for it and prove those fat Americans wrong, right?
I have no idea what I should go study
I'm fucked
>>256175003
Thanks anon, already got some calls back. Went on a streak and applied at 30 different places, most of which are waiting for a follow-up tomorrow or Tuesday. One of which I missed the call for and they asked me to give my info and they'd call me back, I think I might be fucked there, what you get for helping a friend move, though with 29 other places I'm not too worried
>>256170146
The problem is that vidya students are pretty apt to think of themselves as idea guys, when you really need a solid programming base and visual design competency.
Its also the type of thing where you really need to be a self-starter or have a really good network to get you a job.
>>256170269
>Know a guy who went to uni to study English Literature
>Only just passed
>Now in acting school
>Was a terrible actor to begin with
How do I tell him he sucks when his head is so far up his own ass he can see light?
>>256174967
Get an internship and you won't be so fucked.
>>256169187
A structured school environment is actually really good for following your dream. It offers the advantages of setting aside dedicated time to study a subject from a master, and teaches valuable life skills like accountability, managing your time, being answerable to someone else, and working on a team.
>>256175505
If you put enough effort into it you can honestly go far man, just don't doubt yourself. If you love it, do it. Don't be dumb, don't be reckless, remember to be realistic about things.
>>256175519
I was just reading the other thread about ideas guys.
You're right. To be successful in the industry requires a lot of experience and networking. Both of which most people start off with nil. The person who gets the job is the person who is most qualified, that's going to be whoever has the best grades.
It's all well and good to be an ideas guy and pursue a career in programming, but I've seen plenty of people dispassionate about video games get the job just because they have more experience and know what they're doing.
>Study game design
>Make my own games with some friends I went to college with
>Making more money than my friends that became engineers because they have no work experience & can't get employed by anyone
If you know the gaming industry well & now how to milk the goys, it's a pretty easy living. Of course, if you love making games then you can also do pretty well, just depends on how retarded the design of your game is.
>>256175850
>best grades
Lel no. No job cares or looks at your resume for your GPA
>>256170617
The ride never ends.
>have friend into vidya
>he wants to learn to make them
>ttries to learn every new system that comes along
>first java, then flash, then terrible source mods, then unity
>"its the next big thing! you wouldn't understand"
>Still made less gaems than the PS4
>>256175975
Maybe if you're applying for McDonalds they don't.
>>256175975
I was refering to graduating with honours, etc.
I'm not savvy with the educational-political climate of America because I'm Australian. We hold much less stock in the name of a u
niversity because most are pretty good already.
>>256174967
>Haven't worked a day in my life and have nothing except for the degree to put on my resume
Just make a skills resume and sell yourself well, problem solved. That's all I did and I'm making over 50 grand a year.
>>256167007
>Law
>Not complete shit
Enjoy making no money being a lacky for some firm IF you're lucky
>>256176235
Not even if you're applying to Goldman Sachs. If you are applying there you obviously have connections or are really qualified accountant.
>tfw phd in math
>300k starting
>any job i want
>tfw unlike the generic /v/-faggot who's either a NEET or "studies" sth that will make him one anyway, I'm a final year med student
>>256175913
This right here. Most of the cases of people enrolling in game design courses are idiots with zero knowledge of the industry and just wanna go work for Bethesda or some shit.
If you know what you're doing, you can still make good money from such a cookie cutter degree. You just need to do your research. Once you've got the ball rolling, you can then move on to bigger, more enjoyable projects.
Its the same for any arts/design degree.
http://www.his.se/Utbildning/Hitta-utbildning/vara-program/Dataspelsutveckling/Dataspelsutveckling-Game-Writing/Would you, /v/?
>>256176445
Goldman sachs in fact requires you to graduate with high grades...
>Thinking of joining the Navy for IT
Is this a terrible idea? I'm kinda runnin out of time and ideas.
>>256176119
More employers don't care what language you are proficient in. It's all about being able to easily learn to languages and tools.
I'm at the point that for most non object oriented languages, you could show me some code containing most of the proper syntax and a basic statements that I could probably be getting shit done in a week.
>Going to college
Enjoy your million dollar debt
>>256176616
And that's why you're qualified so you don't technically need to put that shit on your resume and like all places you can get away with being a little under qualified by having friends who can pull strings for you.
>>256176717
Not sure what country you are in, but most armies will pay for your college/university if you serve for a couple years (Usually the rate is two years of service for one year of college/university.)
>>256176810
Jokes on you, my parents pay for my tuition and I don't take loans.
>>256175780
These are all things that you could learn by yourself without spending an arm or a leg. But like a good goy you are sheckel bait. OY VEY GOYIM COLLEGE IS VITAL TO LIVING YOUR LIFE!
>>256176953
American so yeah, hoping I could get a base education in the Navy and then do something neato with that.
Plus, I'm getting fucking old and I'm still in my old home town. It's getting sad.my captcha was 420
>>256176985
If you live outside the U.S chance are college is free, and if you live in the U.S it's easy to get scholarships and grants.
>I-I DIDN'T GO TO COLLEGE NOT BECAUSE I'M A LOSER BUT BECAUSE I'M N-NOT A GOOD GOY! MY JOB AT PETSMART IS REALLY PUTTING THE KIKES IN THEIR PLACE! *TIPS STAHLHELM*
Christ /pol/fags are pathetic.
>>256164581
>there are people who want to study video game design
>not playing the damn game
>not making a fucking game
>idea guying this hard
not even once, the fedora tips again.
>>256170465
It costs a ton. Easily thousands upon thousands of dollars for even the simplest universities. You usually have to spend months trying to scrap together some measly scholarships or hope for your parents to die and leave with a good life insurance policy it might be enough to cover 2 years worth.
Otherwise you probably have to use student loans which have ridiculous interest rates and are extremely harsh, plus they can never be removed even by bankruptcy, so a lot of people wind up in endless debt to the government before they've even gotten started in life.
Colleges are some of the biggest cancerous awful bullshit in America.
>>256177289
Except I have my own business and make 300k a year. So yeah college is really shit tier. Chances are if you are getting your bachelors you will get minimum wage by the time you leave college. But nice try thinking your life is going in any direction other then the drain. Also if you want to get money you then have to get your masters, and that's 6 years of loans and paying tuition. On top of that that money is really shit so if you want to get your PHD that's another 4 years. So do the math poorfag, grownups are taking control of your life instead of you wasting time in a shit system.
>>256177570
What business do you have?
>>256177360
Are you fucking retarded?
I got a 5k grant and a subsidized load with like a 4% interest rate that doesn't even start till a year after I graduate.
Please try to ignore idiots like this, chances are he's never been to college.
>>256177570
>Except I have my own business and make 300k a year.
>Sitting on the video games board of 4chan at 11 am shitposting about Jews
Yeah, I'll totally take your word for it.
>>256177570
>owns a business netting him over 300k
>doesn't even know the difference between "then" and "than"
Sure buddy.
>>256177638
I own a pharmacy and some clinics in a plaza.
>>256177681
Yeah keep thinking your education will do anything. I have a lot of free time, all I have to do is go in every once in a while and make sure everything is running smoothly. But keep thinking in 2 or 3 years when you get your degree and your working at starbucks what I said.
>>256177871
>>256177871
>Own a pharmacy
>Without a degree
lol, fuck off.
>>256177842
epic spelling error, totally invalidates anything I said! Also not everyone on the internet or on 4chan is complete NEETS.
>>256177360
>>256177570
I seriously hope you're just pretending to be retarded.
>I MAKE 300K A YEAR AND OWN MY OWN BUSINESS
>Shitposting on /v/ in the morning
>>256177871
You're so full of fucking shit.
Let me guess, you went for an arts degree or something, took a bunch of shitty loans and now you're butthurt you can't get a job with your useless degree?
>>256177871
>Owns and runs a pharmacy
>Doesn't have a degree
God damn you're just digging yourself deeper and deeper.
>Also not everyone on the internet or on 4chan is complete NEETS.
Yeah but you certainly are.
>>256177962
You don't need a degree when my parents hand money and that was their business. Now that I own it i'm pretty much set for life. You don't need a degree to understand managerial or business. That's why you're a good goy and you're in college.
>>256177974
It's a dumb spelling error that an average middle school student would correct you on, don't try to convince people that you own a vastly profitable business when you lack basic elementary education.
>>256178103
I bet this guy isn't even 18 yet.
>>256178141
That's really cute since this is coming from a NEET.
>was studying a radio production degree (i fucking know) at university.
>gave up knowing it was a shit subject and enjoyed the 'free' money for 2 years while everyone else was on an equal pointless course.
>Drop out head back home and randomly apply for job at SEGA as ive always been segafag
>get my dream job as a QA for now with high chance of promotion in a year or so fucking good money aswell.
>everyone else I know either works in a pub or customer service bullshit hating their work
>only person from uni and back home whos actually done something
feels awesome
>>256178173
>thinking you need a degree to run an already profitable business
>he actually thinks that most people who have businesses give a shit about college or advanced education
>>256177962
As an owner, all he has to do is hire a pharmacist. From what I've seen, they're not even a very well paid or group.
I was good in scool, i can c++. Photoshop, and even build games in my free time, but i work in something like a Roadwork.
I do things like pflaster, and cut threes and thinks like this, and get something like 1000 € in a month.
I think i just kill myself. Something like this what you do would be my dreamjob.
I just stopped to do anything, and dont give a fuck about my life, i have stopped to try.
>>256178349
You're the dumbest person I've seen a while man, thanks for the laughs.
>>256178410
Exactly, my wife is a pharmacist which is why it works, we basically do nothing, in virtue of her being a pharmacist, and we just make money. So it works out, I have a great life.
>>256178534
Dude, no one buys your bullshit.
Just stop.
>>256178268
Tell them to localize Yakuza 5 the faggots
>>256178468
How old are you? Really, not many people I know actually think that advanced education is actually worth anything. Doesn't matter to me, keep thinking college is a magic path to becoming successful.
You stupid fags study game design, and still you just make games that dont make fun.
They teach you wrong.
>>256178410
Pharmacists are extremely well paid, what third world shithole do you live in? And no to the other guy thats lying saying you can own a pharmacy that distributes medicine and drugs to the public without a degree, it just does not happen in the U.S. I'll never understand some peoples need to lie to others over the internet.
>>256178576
You just want to believe its bullshit because if I was actually lying then you would know how retarded college actually is, but don't feel bad man, that bachelors degree will come in handy in getting some waiter positions.
>>256178618
Please stop, for the love of God my sides can't take anymore.
>>256178738
>>256178695
>still thinks you need a degree to run a business
>>256178738
>tfw 300k a year making uneducated /v/irgin on the internet ready to tell other anons how wrong they are about college at the drop of a fedora
ur just jealous
>tfw forever writer and ideas guy
Actually, how the hell does a writer get a job for some vidya company?
>Want to be a teacher
>not really for the money but want to teach kids good things
>but live in the US where education continues to go down the shitter
>Other English related options not very viable either
>Have no real desire for anything else
I guess its grunt work until i dieat least I have time for vidya
Ok STEM, IT, yadda yadda yadda, those are generally the best.
Now what I want to know is what you should NOT study.
>>256176985
>>256177360
>>256177570
>>256177871
>>256178103
>>256178349
>>256178534
>>256178618
>>256178808
Stop.
It's blatantly obvious you're some 17 year old regurgitating things you see on /pol/, you don't make 300k a year, you don't known how to run a business, you're extremely transparent. Please for the love of God stop before I have an aneurysm.
>tfw writing fantasy novels
I'm the lowest of scum and I know it.
I want to write shit like Camus, Joyce, Foster Wallace and so on, but I just can't.
>>256178927
who to gookland and become the stereotypical weaboo english teacher
>>256178987
Arts
>tfw as a idiotic 16 year old I thought game design would be the best choice
>tfw I dropped out a year and a half later and changed course just in time to get more free education
Holy fuck I was so close to fucking that up.
>>256178993
Says the 20 year old who just got into college and is hoping that what I'm saying isn't true. Son I have some bad news for you, people become more successful than you will ever be without college. It happens all the time. P
>>256178927
the demand for teachers is really high in sweden, and the market isnt crowded since no one wants to deal with mini-sandniggers.
just suggesting some options.i heard from an old classmate who lives near our old highschool who also has a contact who goes there, they are literally throwing shit, and we graduated 2 years ago now
>not studying video game design
plebs, all of you
>>256179053
That's typically something to do over a couple years and then they phase you out unless you make connections. It's not meant to be a long term job
>>256178853
pfffshh jokes on u kid i make 1 mil a day sitting on my ass and running nintendo, i only need 2 go in and check in once a year and its ez becuse my dad owned nintendo
collage is for JEWS and good goys NO1 CARES ABOUT COLLAGE
>>256179125
sick projecting bro
>>256179125
Is that what tell yourself as flip burgers at McDonalds?
>>256179264
I know I'm hitting a nerve, keep trying to take the high ground because you're in "college". Adults will be taking control of their life. Let me know when you start your minimum wage job because you though a bachelors would mean something.
>>256179328
>Is that what tell yourself as flip burgers at McDonalds?
*that what you tell yourself as you flip burgers, I need some sleep.
>inb4 you jump down my throat for it.
>>256169637
>implying any degree isn't about networking
>implying college only real meaning is to jump start your own projects
the only exceptions to this are math heavy degrees like math,physics and engineering, and biology degrees.
if you're going to college thinking you will learn anything you're doing it wrong.
>>256179445
>>256179328
I wouldn't know I have never had a minimum wage job.
>tfw doing a degree in the subject I truly enjoy
feels good
>>256179407
>Hey, you're a fat nerd who has no friends.
>If you deny it, that means I'm right
What is this, kindergarten?
>>256179407
Did DeVry University deny your application or something?
>>256179524
I doubt you've had a job period, you're probably 16 tops.
>Inb4 HA, I WAS ONLY PRETENDING TO BE RETARDED.
>>256179473
>b-b-but I got a bachelors in [some worthless degree], aren't I supposed to making money yet?
You kids funny.
>Be me
>Studied English and History
>People laughed
>Got a masters in education
>Landed a job at a private, catholic girls school.
I know I'm lucky, but I'm glad I studied something I enjoyed. During the first year of my bachelor's degree I actually went to an Engineering information session because the constant put downs were getting to me. I'm glad I stuck with it though.
>>256178808
so that's it for you, owning a business is your top goal in life?, it saddens me that this is what most people that go to college (or don't) think.
learn to love science and knowledge for what it gives back to your human race you stupid monkey.
>>256179620
thx for sharing
>>256179634
>private catholic girls school
>lucky
huh. private school teachers get paid shit too
>>256179407
And I don't suppose you have any way to back up your claims other than "If you don't believe me you're just being an autist"?
>>256179634
Do you fug your students?
>>256178927
Teaching ain't terrible honestly. Good benefits and a lot of free time are both the biggest perks. The pay does sort of suck and you need to genuinely enjoy the job for it to be worth it.
I have a bunch of friends becoming teachers and they all seem to dig it so far.
>>256179647
You must be underage and thinking that you will ever contribute anything to society so I'll humor you. I live my life, I read philosophy from time to time, but I don't generally care about any of that. I don't care about anything but living well and taking care of my wife. Once you grow up and stop watching Carl Sagan then you will understand that you aren't smart enough to change anything.
>tfw bad at math
>tfw average at english
>tfw bad at everything else
>tfw the only thing which I'm good at is art
I've already dug my grave, either I git real good or suicide.
>>256170929
Meant to reply to >>256179634
>>256176572
im in the same boat anon.
And i'm miserable. run while you still can.
>>256179865
This is really funny, it's like watching a child emulate what he thinks an adult is supposed to be like.
>>256179752
It's common sense really, my brother has his master's in business and he can't even land an entry job as a burger flipper because they say he's overqualified. The job market is shit right now so unless you have connections you are literally fucked.
>Went to a tech school because I don't like college
I make a little more then most of my friends do, so whatever. Once they get a degree if they actually get jobs they'll be making more then me, but I don't really care about money that much. Just enough to be comfy.
>HEY GUYS I HAVE A COLLEGE DEGREE IN STUFF
All the neckbeards stand up
>LOL ENJOY YOUR NO JOBS/NO MONEY WHAT A WASTE OF TIME YOU STUPID GOY POL TOLD ME ALL ABOUT HOW THE JEWS WANT YOU TO WASTE MILLIONS GOING TO COLLEGE, A PIECE OF PAPER WONT GET YOU A JOB, I DIDNT GO TO COLLEGE AND I DROPPED IN MY CV TO A HOSPITAL ASKING IF I CAN BE A DOCTOR, I THINK IM IN LOL
Fucking NEETS
>>256179879
At least you can make mad dosh from furry requests. I'm only good at video games.
>>256179879
If you want to make games, being good at art is an excellent start.
You can make shit with Game Maker or Multimedia Fusion or what have you, they won't be technically all that impressive but so long as your art is juicy nobody's going to mind that much.
>>256179939
Nice projecting, either way have fun with that degree.
>>256179748
Do we?
>>256179757
No.
>>256180018
I TOTALLY OWN A BUSINESS AND MAKE 300K A YEAR GUYS JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT
>>256179634
>>256179757
Is that you GTO?
>Starting 3D and Animation study next week
>Always been really talented at drawing and animation
I'm ok with this
>>256179865
I wrote some publications in undergrad under the professor i was doing research with. Depends where you go, but you really can make your mark in science!
>>256179998
What do you do?
If you are I wizard and have no aspiration to get a gf nor children, what is a salary which you can live comfortably?
>>256179985
No, I meant about your qualifications and how you apparently make 300k a year. Can you prove that?
>>256180018
College is pretty worthless, unless you get into med school or pharmacy school you are basically wasting your time.
>>256180059
>He doesn't even know how to use projecting in the proper context
Confirmed for under 18.
>>256174740
Not as bad as me anon.
>Finish school with great GCSEs
>IT course at college
>Goes well for the first few weeks, then it starts getting really, really shit. Nothing like what I'd thought it would be
>Tried to get into sixform, and couldn't because there weren't any places left
>Settle on the IT course, then get kicked out because I was ill for a week, and the secretary never passed the message on
>Do nothing but play World of Warcraft for a year
>Apply for Games design course (yes, really)
>Once again, starts off okay, then it becomes shit, although I decided to finish these two years
>Applied for three A levels after those two years
>I'm now 20 years old, and will be studying History, English language and politics with a bunch of 16 year olds
The worse thing is, even if I decided to go to university, which I probably will considering my parents have money to burn, I'll be 22.
>>256180072
Then what's the point of it being all girls?
>>256180072
I went to a private catholic boys school and a few of my teachers complained about their pay being WORSE then what it would be at a public school. This in the U.S. by the way, but maybe its different for each location. (Mine was in Hawai'i)
>>256180205
Well he did say he was uneducated
>>256180159
So have I, I've done research in organic chem for beta lactams for anti cancer research, doesn't mean I will change a god damn thing. Just because you get a publication doesn't mean jack shit.
>>256180196
>I've never been to college but I know it's worthless.
>>256179865
so you prefer to live your life for the sole purpose of reproduction.
let me put it this way, would you prefer to have your kid be a successful business man or a successful scientist/engineer?
inb4 he can be both, that's the whole fucking point why would you want to only know about bussiness management when you can also know about science AND manage a bussiness.
but w/e i know you will be happy with your wife and you will live a life of nothingness.
also you don't read philosophy if you don't care about it or don't acknowledge it's importance, stop lying, sophie's world doesn't count faggot
>be me
>study urban planning
>get piss taken out of my course for 4 years
>jokedegree.jpg
>tfw land a great, well-paid planning job before graduating
>tfw 100% of my course have jobs before graduation
>Law/Economics grads remain unemployed
In Europe, it's university's best kept secret.
>>256180205
Well you are projecting your own insecurities onto me, thinking that somehow you are an adult because you went to college. It's cute though.
>Tfw "Leaving Cert"
Its the irish exam we get at the end of "high school" which basically decides if we can get into college or not, its bullshit
>For one college you need a fucking grade B or higher in French and Irish FUCKING IRISH A DEAD LANGUAGE THAT NO ONE HERE SPEAKS to get into a "Computer science" course
>A higher level B in french and irish
>For computer science
>And for maths all you need is an ordinary level (easy as fuck) D (which is a pass on the dot)
Fuck the irish education system
>introductions at the beginning of college courses
>"a-a-and I'm st-studying v-video g-game d-design. M=muh influences are Sh-Shigerru Meeyamowtoh."
