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Why is Nintendo doing so poorly when the Wii U is the best console?
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Why is Nintendo doing so poorly when the Wii U is the best console?
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>>255913371
they should have made another piece of shit like the wii if they wanted to actually sell some consoles
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>>255913371
Not enough shovelware for casuals to buy into.
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>>255913607
But Wii U is basically another Wii

A lot of people think that Wii U is a Wii with a tablet as a controller
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>>255913747
it needs more than shovelware

it needs thousdands and "free" games to sucker casuals into
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>>255913871
the controller is actually good, so it's not shit like the wii
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>>255913371
>wii u
>best console
these two options are not compatable
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>>255913747

This, where are Carnival Games? That was a major hit.
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>>255913371
Bad advertising.
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Because
a) it's underpowered
b) Nintendo are fucking incompetent jackasses when it comes to third party support and have been since the N64 days

They really need an overhaul. Ugh
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>>255913371
Because retro games aren't as popular as modern games. Nintendo essentially sells the same kind of games you could play 15 years ago. But consumers' tastes have changed while the type of games Nintendo makes has not.
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>>255913371
Why are europeans such shitposters? When it's fucking 4 a.m. there are no fucking console war threads. When it's fucking 6 p.m. there is nothing but shit like this.
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If Nintendo advertised the Wii U half as hard as /v/ does the Wii U would have sold 50 million by now.
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Because the majority of people know sony consoles are better and they age like wine.
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They should have made a new higher spec console instead of cashing in on wii. The marketing makes it seem like the wii u is just a gimmick controller that no one wants for the wii.

Another major problem are the games that nintendo fans are looking forward and 95% sequels to games they've already played.
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>>255913371
Because they're the bad guys. The bad guys always lose
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because sony exists
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I can't believe the PS4 is doing as well as it is (in america at least, the shit is bombing hardcore in japan because japanese gamers actually have decent gaming taste)

dumbass americans and europoors are eating the shit up for their yearly AAA rehashes like asscreed, cawadooty, battlefied, and SPORTSBALL 2015

it's sad
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>>255915195
>he shit is bombing hardcore in japan because japanese gamers actually have decent gaming taste
>japanese gamers actually have decent gaming taste
right, playing mobile games almost exclusively is good taste...
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>>255915195

>Decent game taste.

I enjoy Japanese games, but Japans taste in games are arguably worse, than the rest of the world, except Korea.
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>>255915195
You give Japanese gamers too much credit.
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>>255913371
the worst you are looking for is "the least worst"
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>>255915195
This whole generation really goes to show how poor the state of the video game market is, really.
Good games won't move a system no matter how many come out whilst games that pride themselves on their cinematics and little else, and constant first person shooters with nothing new to offer but a fresh coat of paint, will sell a system in the millions. Meanwhile the mobile market is booming on unethical business models that take advantage of consumers at every turn.
I really fear for what's still to come because there's no way this is lowest point. We need something big to shake things up.
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Because they didn't listen to me, they didn't call it Super Wii
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>>255916067
>Good games won't move a system
of course not

games used to sell systems

but ever since the ps2, consoles sold on being able to play movies and other useless shit
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ITT Nintendo sour grapes
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>>255916232
Oh fuck me, that reminds me of some friends back in high school who kept berating me for buying a Wii because
>"It doesn't have a DVD player, it's shit"
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>>255916067
>We need something big to shake things up.

Abolishing the banking system, prohibiting the marketing industry, and re-legalizing hemp?
Instead of killing jews... kill their companies?!
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>>255913371
The Wii U is doing poorly because Nintendo fell prey to their hubris. They got cocky, thought people would flock to their next system because of the Wii name and went full jew when it came to marketing. It backfired on them and Sony showed everyone what hundreds of millions of dollars worth of marketing can do for a console with no meaningful games.
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>>255913371
I know that this is out of the blue and not related but i'm using an R4 on my 3DS and was wondering if there is a way to emulate SNES games on it.
Any thoughts?
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>>255914884
>NES
>SNES
>N64
>Wii
what
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>>255913371
Best console perform the worst nowadays?
Look at the PS3 last gen
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>>255916514
>full jew when it came to marketing

going full jew on marketing is what Sony, MS, EA, Activision and pretty much all the other game companies are doing
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>>255916138
>Super Wii-NES
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>>255913371
Where do we start?

>No multiplats
>Nintendo games haven't been cool in a long while
>Underpowered
>Gimmick Tablet that aports nothing interesting or only interesting to a small minority.
>Horrible marketing
>Drought of games
>No valuable to someone that doesn't care about Nintendo games
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People think the Wii U is stupid
And how would they know better, it's a 300 buck gamble for a young dude, and most of us are wage slaves with nigh zero assets. As the system sells more, the bias weakens, but I don't think it will wane unless Nintendo fights the kikes with their own weapons.
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>>255916842

This. That's exactly what paying much more money on marketing games than paying to make games is.
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>>255916842
He means being cheap on marketing. Those companies aren't cheap on marketing. Theyre the opposite
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>>255914054
This is just another hourly nintendo shilling thread, don't take it seriously.
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>>255913371
>when the Wii U is the best console?

There's your problem. It isn't.
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>>255917228
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>>255917228
>Those companies aren't cheap on marketing. Theyre the opposite

Yes. Jews
Spending money of 0% merit to be able and swamp a market with shit products
Good idea lol, who cares we have dev slaves
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The Wii U can't even output native RGB (0-255). Even my Raspberry Pi does that.
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>>255913371
Shitty name and marketing.
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Don't ask me.

Best game library, best exclusives, free online, off-TV play, and Nintendo finally got their shit together with the eshop and Meavers.
Maybe because there is pretty much no hype.
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>>255917706
>Best game library, best exclusives

For you. I and millions of other people grew out of your silly jumping in cartoon environment games years ago.
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>>255917367
Nice try, jewgold mcdonut. Nintendo has infinite power. Gentiles will rule the world.
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>>255917831
What's your favorite games anon?
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>>255917424
Groups of people are gullible. You tell them something is good enough times in a trendy way that could boost their social position by being associated with it and they'll buy into it. The only way this doesn't work is if the product you're shipping out is so shitty (Aliens: Colonial Marines) that no amount of marketing can hide it.
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>>255917424
Unfortunately it's also needed to sell products, besides the very rare case where consumers do the marketing themselves by word of mouth.
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>>255917706
>free online
For all two of those online games
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>>255913747
This and not advertising to the dude bro audience.
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It's the cheapest, which means the retailers are squeezing it out of the market. Retailers would prefer to sell the xbone/ps4 for more profit.
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>>255917706
>Best game library, best exclusives,
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, please.

Not everyone grew up with Nintendo games, I can care less about 2D platformer 1, 2D Platformer 2, 2D Platformer 3, Generational 3D Platformer, Generational Kart Racer and what else is there?

From the upcoming games only Bayo 2 and X are something I would want, but until those games are release I will not buy a Wii U and most likely I will buy a cheap used one and sell it after I am done with both games.
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>>255918346
But why bro audiences would want to buy a Wii U? Lets say after every PS4 commercial in TV aired a Wii U commercial, you really think Wii U would have sold as well as PS4?

Nintendo hasn't been cool in a while and it was only cool during the wii era because a bunch of people that aren't gamers bought the system.
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>>255918425
Most retailers only gain small profit for every console, that is why they prefer to sell volumes and not price, price has nothing to do with it.
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>>255918447
>I can care less
So you do care?
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>>255918447
>I can care less

Cool story bro, glad we could agree on something.
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Nintendomination is over.

The sony era has begun.
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>>255913371
Lack of multiplats.

I don't think anyone gives a fuck about Nintendo anymore. Not even casuals. Most of them probably don't even know the Wii U exists.
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>>255913371
>best console

How so?

More games?

It's been out a full year longer, I would hope it has more games. In long term investment, how will it do? My guess the same as the GC. 2-4 must have titles a year, and long droughts of no games. Simply because it has almost zero third party support.
When games like GTA6, MKX, and other major title start to come out, and the Wiiu won't see them, then let's have this discussion again.
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>>255919087
said some guy in 1995
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The 3DS emulates most experiences on the Wii U in a more appealing format and price.
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>>255913371
>Why is Nintendo doing so poorly when the Wii U is the best console?

Because it's actually the worst console
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>>255917831
>implying there is such thing as a "mature" video game

Pretending video games are mature is like pretending toys are mature. It doesn't work.
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>>255919275
>2014
>implying anyone gives a fuck about Mortal Kombat
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The name, honestly.

I think Japan overestimates how dumb modern consumers are, and that we need bullshit marketing tactics in order to be convinced to buy a product.

This is why Sony went with the "we're furr the gaymerz!" shtick and is out here winning. It's really that simple. The qualities of the actual product are damn near irrelevant seeing as Microsoft has the better console through and through and even they aren't leading in sales. And no, I don't attribute "better" to having more power. History proves that only a vocal minority of fags truly care about that.
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>>255919668
*underestimates
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>>255918774
Price has very much to do with it. They could make $10 on a wii u sale, whereas a psbone sale would give $20.
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>>255918667
If Nintendo wants to sell to teenagers (the biggest market in the west), they need to remove the social stigma of Nintendo products as children's toys. Teenagers are socially sensitive and won't buy anything they think will make them look like a child. They want to partake in adult looking things to make them look and feel like adults, so Nintendo should do that. They should produce more games that teens can parade around and proclaim "I'm an adult" alongside their usual fare.
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>>255918178
If the product is good, you don't need marketing because it sells itself. Like how Minecraft beat games with half-billion dollar marketing budgets.
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>>255920447
See:
>besides the very rare case where consumers do the marketing themselves by word of mouth.

This is very rare and cannot be depended upon.
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Me and my gf picked one up for Mario Kart 8 after playing it at a friends house, most fun I've had playing a videogame since early days of mgo with friends.
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>>255916067
The videogame market need to sell prestige.
So the casual pearsons have a "real" need for games.
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>>255920612
It's only rare because you're used to playing games that aren't good and you've not made the connection that this is how things normally go for good products.
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>>255916514
Casual = Traitors
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>>255916562
Sorry No way, the r4 used a weird gameboy cartidge to emulate SNES and Gameboy Advance games , and the 3ds had lost the abilit to use gameboy advance dartidges.
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>>255913371
Because people like me are content in the last console generation and don't feel like buying this just yet.
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>>255921001
No. One doesn't need to play the games at all to notice when they get word of mouth marketing. Not many games get word of mouth marketing worth a damn, certainly not enough for a corporation to depend on it instead of traditional marketing methods or viral marketing instigated by shills.
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>>255921507
Can you think of a great game with poor marketing that is doing poorly? I can't, and the ones people usually suggest aren't very good games.
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Wii U is objectively the worst console. Least functionality, most gimmicky, least power, will be obsolete in 1 to 2 years
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>>255920159
But isn't it also a market that offers fleeting success?

All the teenagers who bought the 360 because it was "so cool bro!" are now in their 20s and couldn't give much of a fuck about how something looks socially. I'm one of these people.

Nintendo plays the long game. As soon as Sony fucks up they'll be in a position to re-market the console. It may not even be this gen, but it will happen.
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>>255913371
They literally only started marketing in mid May

Like, really.

Probably the only ads I've seen on TV for the Wii U were in the MK8 hype
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>>255921676
>Least functionality
What game related functions does it lack?
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>>255921306
So i can play GBA games on my r4 but not SNES.
How do i emulate GBa games?
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>>255919153
Soda So da
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>>255913371
Because most people are retards and think Graphics>Gameplay.
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>>255921658
>Can you think of a great game with poor marketing that is doing poorly? I can't, and the ones people usually suggest aren't very good games.
You literally just said if someone points out any example that goes against your hypothesis you'll just say it isn't very good in your opinion.
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>>255921716
people didn't buy the 360 because it was socially cool. They bought it (at least at launch and 1-3 years after) because it had by far the best online functionality, the highest quality exclusives (though fewer of them) and was much cheaper

Nintendo plays the short, short game. This Wii U is a perfect example of that. "lets use last gen tech to make our next gen console, thus making us completely irrelevant in the eyes of the consumer"
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>>255920129
You are retarded, but keep being one it is cute.
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>>255913371
>Wii U is the best console?
that's like being the shiniest turd in a pile of shit
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>>255919398
<That's Why this stuff doesn't have THE prestige
, that's why the industry is suffering like the wolverine clones.
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>>255922019
>highest quality exclusives
>360

M-muh western garbage?
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>>255914054
Then what is ? Please tell me
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>>255921925
It's /v/, people will suggest shit like atelier. If you can't imagine it being a massive hit with a few hundred mil of extra marketing then it wasn't an example of a great game that was somehow missed due to poor marketing.
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>>255922036
>he thinks retailers don't care about profit
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>>255922019
It was just because it was cheaper

That's it. Don't even think that the actual library affected anything, because really, the PS360 is basically the same fucking library. It's no longer about the exclusives your system has, it's about the exclusive content you can get for the fucking multiplats.

And that sucks
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>>255922194

as this is a topic about sales, the sales back up that claim. We more people cared about Halo, Gears of War, and Forza than they did Killzone, Gran Turismo, little big planet, or uncharted
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>>255922019
Be that as it may, people still ended up shifting away from the 360 mid-gen. Why? because despite being a decent console it still had the social aspect of "this is what you should be playing!" attached to it. You say that's not why people bought it but I think otherwise. Just look at the timeframe when MS didn't even put games out, people STILL bought it. PS4 is in a similar position now.
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>>255917424
The polaroid guy? The one that had advertising and marketing to sell it's product?
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>>255922387
I agree, the price was the biggest point as to why it sold much better initially. But the other poster was implying that people only bought it because it was "cool" which is bull shit
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>>255922404
"highest quality"=/=sold more

And all the games you listed are shit.
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>>255921676
>e obsolete in 1 to 2 years
nah the time spare for a console is at least 5 years.
considering the wii u launch it still has at least 3 years until it becomes obsolete.
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>>255922295
>If you can't imagine it being a massive hit with a few hundred mil of extra marketing then it wasn't an example of a great game that was somehow missed due to poor marketing.

"If a game can't appeal to THE WIDER AUDIENCE, it's shit"

--this is you

Some games are great but cannot be appreciated by the average plebeian you know.
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>>255922404
Nobody gives a fuck about Sony exclusives except Sony drones. The whole "they have more IPs!" hype died shortly after people realized Sony was only pumping out sequel after sequel.
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>>255918447
2 games is still better than none
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>>255922743
Dorf fort doesn't appeal to plebs as they can't get past the graphics but it's still been a huge hit with zero marketing because it's good.
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>>255922452
People started to shift away from it mid gen because Sony was offering things Microsoft wouldn't match (because from a buiness standpoint they would have been retarded to)

Free Online
Giving away games monthly with a tiny subscription
Invest in a ton of hit or miss exclusives (some were brilliant, others not so much)
Ridiculous game bundles

Look how much money sony lost that generation just to "win" it.
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>>255913371
>best console
>Wii u
>why it no sell good?
Because its not the best. Its far from it. It has outdated graphics, bad gimmick, and lack of good games.
That is your answer.
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>>255922973
Stop samefagging.
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>>255922973
>It has outdated graphics, bad gimmick, and lack of good games.

Muh graphics
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>>255913371
Because its not that great of a console, even though it is probably the better of the three.

In addition, you have blind fanboys like this guy who just want nintendo to fail and thats it.
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>>255922973
Fuck off. The console is shit. Quit defending it.
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>>255922836
>Dorf fort
>huge hit

Okay you seriously have no perspective on what games are actually popular. Carry on.
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>>255922703

Wii U is still important. AMD said the only will make a semi-custom product for someone if they will make AMD 100 million+. If Wii U doesn't meet those goals, they won't be able to run to AMD for a custom APU.

It bothers me a bit because in 3 years anything besides SoC/APU is going to be dead in a console form factor and AMD is about the only company that can make something remotely decent for gaming.

It will boil down to ARM with some sort of shitty imagination GPU or AMD.

I've heard rumors in hardware sites that AMD might have gotten a contract for Ninty's next handheld. If it works we might see an APU similar to Xbone/PS4 in the next console and if Wii U does well enough.

If Wii U doesn't do well enough to get AMD's attention, I don't know what they will do. IBM Power is really fucked right now. Intel would cost way too much, and it's not cool to make separate CPUs and GPUs anymore.
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>>255913371
>Xbone shilling to EA when Nintendo refused Origin
>Sony's ridiculous Playstation Now prices and times
>Playstation Now games missing content from he game
>Most worthwhile exclusives of the three consoles

Such a shame that marketing is the only reason why the Wii U is losing.
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>>255923056
Wow good argument. Want a lollipop?
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>>255922609
but again, we were tlaking about why the Wii U isn't selling, and why the 360 and ps3 did. A lot of it is that people just don't have interest in Nintendo exclusives like they do the other 2
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>>255914292
Name any company that treats third parties better
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>>255923038
This >>255923290 was meant for you.
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>>255923559
microsoft
sony
valve
apple
google
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>>255923398
>marketing
Sure man sure nothing to do with it being total shit.
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>>255915195
You're going to cry when Japanese ps4 titles start releasing and it outsells the competition in every region. The ps4 isn't selling in Japan because it has no games they want. Hold onto your ass when mgsv comes out.
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>>255923460
Nintendo makes cute games that can be challenging. White people in general are afraid of cute things. They equate it with feminine things as gay things.

Japan doesn't give a fuck. You can go to Japan and see 60 year old men in the cutest stores you can see.

So Nintendo takes the whole "kawaii is awesome!" thing and brings it to the US. And then the Americans go "fuck this gay kiddy shit" and no one wants it.

And then you end up with games like W101 which are difficult but have a cute look. So most of the people who would actually enjoy the game pass it up because of the looks.

And the kids and women who go "wow that looks cute" buy the game and then get rekt.
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>>255923872
>implying PS4 and Xbone are good

Enjoying your 4 hour paid demo of MGS4 with missing content and an excessive price?
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>>255923082
Haha, holy shit. What a sad and miserable human being if that really happened.
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>>255913371
The naming theme is retarded and makes people sound like idiots whenever they have to say it.

Wii
Wii U
Mii
Amiibo

Just because a name sounds cool to Japanese people doesn't mean it will to english speakers, in fact usually the opposite is true.
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>>255923998
I won't deny ps4 and xbone have few games but if you would simply wait great things are gonna come out.
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>>255913371
Even people who own the Pii U hate it.
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>>255913371

>best console

Why isn't this thread dead yet? It's pure shitposting
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>>255923398
Dead Rising 3 is fun though and some of the pc games are quite shit
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>>255924278
>W-Wait guys, we swear! G-Good games are coming!

I'd rather not wait an entire console's lifetime for any sort of good game to come out again.

Anyone who isn't delusional can tell Sony is pushing to make PS4 a video game streaming machine.
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>>255924278
This is true but at that point you're just arguing about what lineup is better.

The answer is both are good so people should own the Wii U as well, or not. It's not a shit console though.
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controversial opinion: by the end of the generation, the Xbox One will have sold the most hardware
Nintendo will release a true next gen console
Sony will go bankrupt, and shit its entire focus to money making divisions
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>>255924350
Yeah, but Dead Rising 3 is no longer an exclusive, giving the One no worthwhile exclusives.
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>>255924552
>shitty predictions 2014
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>>255923762
Except they don't
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>>255923082
>That image
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>>255923460
>A lot of it is that people just don't have interest in Nintendo exclusives like they do the other 2
I agree with that. Nintendo isn't in touch with the average video game consumer in the west.
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>>255924346
Which is better then?
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>>255924552
sup Pachter
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Because its a shit console with a terrible release calendar?
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>>255924927
What would be the point of having all three doing the exact same thing, then? We already heavily deride Sony, MS, EA, etc. for doing nothing but dudebro shit and casual cinematic walking simulators.
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Weakest system when Sony and MS have made consoles into a graphics war (even though PC wins no contest there nobody counts it)

Poor marketing, many of the casuals don't even know it's a new system (I brought mine on vacation this week and had to explain to six different people it wasn't just a Wii)

System perceived as kiddy, which keeps people from buying it (even though they enjoy playing these games much of the time.

Lack of the third parties that are always invariably hyped up by casuals and dudebros.
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PS4 destroys the Wii U.
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>>255913371
They never advertised it as the BETTER Wii system.
They never advertised it period until MK8 came out.
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>>255925269
They don't even have to make the dudebro FPS exclusives. All they had to do was a make a console comparable to the Xbone or PS4 so that it could effectively run games like COD and Assassins Creed at a next gen level

They failed to do even that
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>>255925269
I don't think it would be good for gaming if they did the same thing as MS and Sony but unfortunately that may still mean their downfall.
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>>255925732
You're saying that they need to pander their console exclusively to 2 franchises that won't make it to mid-gen. Why?
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>>255924846
they do though
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>Not everyone grew up with modern AAA games, I can care less about FPS 1, FPS 2, FPS 3, Cinematic 3rd-person cover-based shooter, Sports Game and what else is there?
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>>255925914
no, i'm saying when making a next gen console, it is probably good to use technology that isn't close to 10 years old when you release it
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>>255925915
Then you'll have no trouble showing some examples.
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They really should have called it Super Wii as a throwback to SNES.

Plus I would love to make sega-quality penis jokes

>I'm going to go play with my Super Wii
>Lets play with my Super Wii together, it'll be fun
>Playing with my Super Wii is funner with more people
>Turn on my Super Wii

Putting the new thing on the end of the old name doesn't work unless the products are way, way different like original Nintendo NES and Nintendo 64.
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>>255926129
>super
>barely more powerful than a nearly 10 year old 360 or ps3
do you see the problem here
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The name

/thread
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>>255926107
sure, but you have to show some examples on how they're not first
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>>255913371
>Bought a Wii U last week (Mario+Luigi Bundle)
>Bought Mario Kart 8, Sonic Lost World, and Mario 3D World because why not?
>Mario Kart 8 gave me free Pikmin 3
>Xboners and Sonyggers honestly believe their $500 Netflix Machine is better than the Wii U
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>>255926320

Lets stop fighting and waggle my Super Wii together.

Also it's not a Super Playstation 360, it's a Super Wii. It's a better Wii. Super Nintendo wasn't the most powerful console either. Neo Geo and shit completely rekt its anus.
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>>255926446
Eternal darkness and silicone knight's career without nintendo, you're up.
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>>255924927

>thinking exclusives are pushing sales for xbone and ps4

come on now. everyone just wants COD machines.
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>>255913371
This is very easy to answer
1 - Wii was a console made for the casual market
2 - The casual market is moving to tablets, smartphones and free2play games
3 - Wii U has a horrible name so a lot of people think that it's a peripheral for the Wii
4 - With the Wii U Nintendo wanted to have more companies make 3rd party and AAA games just like they do for the other consoles but failed horribly due to the console using ARM and being so weak and just plain different compared to a PC and the new consoles (which are very similar). On top of that they ignore online play, online functionalities and it doesn't bring an hard drive
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>>255925732
Except the Wii U more than plays BO2 and Ghosts just fine albeit with Activision giving it the cold shoulder in terms of support and content. Also it's not like the PS4 or Xbone runs games like AssCreed well when they just simply look 'prettier' than their 360/PS3 counterparts. A lot of it boils down to politics and money and both are far and away easier to do and acquire through the PS4 and Xbone (despite the latter having an even smaller install base than the Wii U).

>>255926754
Wii U uses PPC not ARM.
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>>255913371
High unemployment rate means many people can't buy a console atm.
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>>255927221
Ups, indeed it uses PPC. Just the fact that it isn't x86 sucks ass
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>>255913371
Because the majority have a lower iq than the hardcore on a whole, and arent capable of analyzing or appreciating things deeper than face value.
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>>255927221
>(despite the latter having an even smaller install base than the Wii U).
The xbox will pass the Wii U by the end of this christmas, so that is a moot point

And again, that is another failure of Nintendo if they are unwilling to do what is necessary to get better 3rd party support for the wii u
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>>255927369
Don't expect them to use x86 going into the future either. If anything, I'm putting money on them going full ARM if they do what I think they will.
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>>255926734
muh halo
muh uncharted
muh KI
muh bloodborne (or infamous for normals)

The average "gamer" is more interested in those franchises than most of Nintendo's now
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>>255927656
What's so disadvantageous by going x86? Especially by using an AMD APU. Those things use very low power and provide quite good performance (for consoles, that is)
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>>255927876
Japanese hate x86 since it's PC. and Japanese hate PC.
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>>255927554
So what then do you think they need to do? Nearly all the political/business side of things aren't made open to the public and what we do get has various different tinges/shades of bias (a lot of he said/she said shit). This isn't to disregard Nintendo's past behaviors regarding third parties, either, which definitely has had a lasting impact.

>>255927876
My thoughts are they will go with a hybrid. They will want something that has low power draw, low cost, and is easy enough to work with. They've been using ARM in their handhelds since the GBA so this seems like a good fit. Nintendo has been working with RISC processors for an incredibly long time.
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>>255928368
That doesn't make much sense. Unnatural hatred for an architecture is just plain dumb. Also x86 doesn't automatically make a PC.
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>>255928568
Yeah but it does to message board posters. Note how everyone keeps calling PS4 and Xbone PCs
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>>255928368

This guy has never been to Akihabara or Den Den town to see how the endless amounts of PC stores with Intel, AMD, and Nvidia products all over the place.

I feel sorry for you. I picked up an MSI x58 Pro from Nakano Broadway Junkworld for $10USD. The only thing wrong with it was that the heat sink push pins were not working. So I cut them off and bolted the heatsinks to the motherboard.

I now have a $250 board I got in Japan for $10 because they have so much computer shit over there.

You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I'll be enjoying my perfectly fine $250 motherboard I paid $10 for.
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>>255928513
But if they want 3rd party support they must do a home console that's similar to the rest. Sure the PS3 and the 360 were very different from each other but Sony and Microsoft sell a lot more and have much more power than Nintendo. Now the new consoles are practically the same and very similar to PC so it makes building multiplatform titles a breeze.
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>>255928806
How's the PC market there? I mean, are there usually new components? For example will Japan get maxwell GPUs soon and are PC stores easy to find there?
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>>255913371
Because it's not.
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>>255928806
So what games do they play with those souped up PCs? VNs? Because they sure don't play western games and there's a Japanese mainstream release on PC once in a blue moon
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>>255929131
gechu and dlsite are the Steam stores in japan. You know very well what they play
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Lack of marketing.
it's not rocket science, when you get sony advertisings 14 times at day their fucking console and not a single nintendo add well, obviously you ain't gonna sell much.
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because sony and microsoft put a fuck ton of money into seeing what makes people buy shit. nintendo just kind of makes games and sucks at marketing.
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>>255928876
My honest opinion is that they're not going to get anywhere with EA, Activision, or Ubisoft at this point and would be better off trying to inject some of their own money into building "exclusive" 3rd party that just provides them with software that their own in-house efforts cannot (and thus fill in genre gaps, too). I'm probably in the very (very) small minority that would love to see more shooters on the Wii U that really take good advantage of the remote+nunchuk; it just feels way more intuitive to use than dual analog.
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>>255913371
best console
probably you thougth the same when the N64 didnt had help from third parties
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>>255929312
Don't they ever get sick of sexpandering games? Why not play a normal game every once and awhile?
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>>255929754
sex games are normal games in Japan
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>>255929003
They are everywhere in Akihabara and Den Den Town. And they do get all the new stuff right away.

There are actual Intel, AMD, and Nvidia massive banner advertisements outside some of the buildings.

The prices are a little more expensive than US. But sometimes they get good things. For example, they got AMD AM1 socket earlier than US. They also had FX 8300 (not 8320 or 8350) for sale when FX 8300 is OEM only in the West.

>>255929131

Naughty games. Plus you forget Japan is full of NEETs, hikimoris, and otakus. If you are not autistic in Akihabara you are an outcast.
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>>255913371
Best does not mean popular.

Elthon John's Candle in the wind is popular.
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>>255929838
B-b-ut Diana!
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>>255929654
>probably you thougth the same when the N64 didnt had help from third parties
or the gamecube, or the wii, or the 3ds, or.........well you get what i'm trying to say.

But i suppose you are being sarcastic, i remember plenty of n64 third party games.
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>>255929814
> selling OEM stuff
I wonder, did they sell the Radeon HD8000 series? Those are OEM only too
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>>255917115
> no multiplats
But this is a good thing. Why the fuck wouldn't you a buy a system with the most exclusives
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Because being the best console is like being the smartest retard. It doesn't mean shit. It's time to move away from consoles /v/.
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>>255914571
>Another major problem are the games that nintendo fans are looking forward and 95% sequels to games they've already played.

Meanwhile the CoD audience gets another sequal. Sony fans are awaiting uncharted 4. Just got another infamous, more assassins creed being pumped out. More final fantasy, more tales of....

Don't even try to play that bullshit. Every system dumps out sequals.
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still waiting for that hypocritical faggot who wants Nintendo games on PS4 and PC.
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>>255929969

Never saw one there. I live in the US but I try to make it to Japan once a year. I've been gone for the last two years.

My best friend moved to China to teach, and there's no fucking way I'm going to fly over Japan after 25 hours of travelling (13 to Tokyo, 9 to Guangzhou + layover + travel time to and from airports) from US to Southern China and not stop in Japan.

That's a long ass time to be stuck in a coach seat in a plane.
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> implying nintendo need third party support
No thanks, their first parties have much better art styles and make GAMES not pretentious movies.

I actually think Nintendo forcing developers to strict quality control is important, otherwise you end up with brown and muddy shooters.
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>>255913371
Because they spend more money advertising on 4chan than trying to deliver a decent console for 2014.
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>>255931197
So you visted both Akihabara and Den Den Town? Which one would you recommend to live a "normal" life (as normal as possible in Japan)
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>>255931136
It's going to happen when Nintendo goes out of business in 6 months. I can't wait to play Smash Bros on my PS4 :)
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>>255931297
You have your head so far up your ass that you end up with a brown and muddy shooter regardless.
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>>255931517
i thought you hate nintendo games, sonygger?
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>>255931517
Why are people looking forward to Smash? Didn't they play the last two?
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>>255931517
You already have Sony All-Stars
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Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom.
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If the Wii-U ever got a single good game, I might consider it. However, I hate everything on it and I don't consider the console worth keeping.

>B-BUT YOU HATE FUN

Nope. PC owner here. I know fun more than most people will know it even if they bought a thousand consoles.
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>>255931791
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>>255931934
>PC
>fun games
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>>255931517
Yes, in six months. Iwata is crashing at Reggie's house sinc he was evicted, and Sakurai is making games for food.
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>>255932005
> PS4
> games
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>>255931517
>Waaaah I want to play nintendo games but I don't want to buy a nintendo console!

sonyfags in a nutshell.
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>>255913371
people would rather spent $400 to play HD remakes of 1 year old games and watch Netflix than play new games.

Not even joking, a friend bought a PS4 for Last of Us Remake.
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>>255931736
I've played it and it is not very good. It would actually be okay if they just copied Smash Bros even more and didn't make it so the only way to kill players was with an ultimate attack.
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>>255931791
NINTENDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>255919414
>MK9 sold more than Mario Kart 8
>It also outsold SFIV and was the best selling MK ever
At least know what you are talking about.
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>>255932136
Maybe because they're shitty new games that are basically the same games he's been playing since he was 8.
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>>255913371
Because the Wii U isn't the best console?

I mean I like Nintendo too but you'd have to be completely retarded to not think the Wii U isn't a cheap piece of junk that Nintendo wants to cash in on.

The only reason it's nearly as expensive as it is is because of the tablet. Otherwise it'd only be 150 dollars, tops.
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>>255913371
because the Wii U is NOT the best console and /v/ has a shit taste in consoles.
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>>255913371
Best isn't important.

The Wii wasn't the best console but it embarrassed the competition in sales.
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>>255932136
THREE MILLION GOTYS
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>>255932291
>a game that has been out for over a year has sold more than a game that's been out 2 months?

wow holy fucking shocker.

MK8 is already well over 2 million sold, it'll have no problem destroying mortal kombat sales in the end
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>>255913371
Because rather than making it a distinct system they made it seem like some sort of deluxe version of an existing one.
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>>255931934

This. The Wii-U's exclusives are as meh as the PS4's and Xbox One's.
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>>255929981
Not if you want sales. Games like Watchdogs, Madden, Fifa, The Elder Scrolls etc, are usually big time in terms of sales. As much as /v/ hates multi plats and AAA titles, they are were the money is. Nintendo fags don't seem to understand this.
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>>255932341
This is Kaz Hirai

>>255932345
This is Andrew House
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>>255929981

If multiplats are better than exclusives, which 90% of the time they are, then I don't want a system with only exclusives.
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>>255932636
This is a random nintendrone
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>>255925958
ayy lmao
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> muh sales
> muh dudebro audience

I want reddit to leave

Nintendo aint dying, yet
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>>255913371
smash bros isn't out yet
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>>255932918
Reddits hates Nintendo?
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>>255932832
This is a paid sony shill.
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If I don't like the games on the system, why should I consider it good?
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>>255933070
This is the same random nintendrone
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>>255931407

Den Den Town does not have a lot of the culture of cute, is smaller, and is much less Otaku-ish and more like a bunch of places to shop. The prices are way better than Akihabara or even Nakano.

Akihabara is unrivalled. It's a mecca for nerds. Imagine walking down the streets and hearing retro game music while a cute as fuck Japanese girl stands along the street in a maid costume (or other cosplay) and politely begs for you to come to their maid cafe in Japanese.

But Akihabara is extremely dense and extremely active and Osaka as a whole is a lot more laid back.

The first time I went to Osaka after leaving Tokyo, the first things that went through my were that Japanese aren't highly efficient robots where everything is perfectly organized. Osaka is a lot more Westernized in work ethic. Plus Osaka food is fucking amazing. Kuromon Market blew my fucking mind so hard I haven't been able to touch seafood from anywhere else.

Osaka is for living and Tokyo is for fun.
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>>255933063
Reddit is Xbot central.
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>>255933063
duh, haven't you heard Sony calling out Reddit and NeoGAF in their E3 conference? plus they loves Zombie games except ZombiU because of the "WiiU is shit" bandwagon (they love to bandwagon on things), reason why TLoU got GOTY and Dead Island is getting a requested sequel.
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>>255932052
loled harder than i should have. The thought of reggie and iwata trying to fucking communicate with one another screams sitcom to me.
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>>255933359
for 8 months last year
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>>255922771

Sure, that's why Uncharted games and Journey are in multiplat dev's lists of top games this generation. Because they're Sony drones.
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>>255932291
not to mention. mk9 released on different consoles MK8 released on nintendo only. of course a third party game is going to sell more games across more consoles. that's basic logic
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>>255919398
Sorry, but there are tons of videogames that have showed time and time again that they can be though provoking and not just a retarded jump simulator.
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Another of these threads?
Well, imagine I said something quite idiotic and you got really upset because of it.
There, my job is done.
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>>255933301
Man, I'd love to visit Japan. Do you really need to know hundreds of Kanji to live there, though? Learning Hiragana and Katakana is quite easy but Kanji is something else
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>>255926682

Not that guy, but Sony's entire Indie policy on PS4. They were paying for indie devs to get floor space at a gaming event (forget if it was TGS or the Germany one, but one at that level), even if the dev had no plans to release a Sony system version.
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>>255922404
The fuck? Gran Turismo 5 sold the same as Forza 3 and 4 and even horizon combined. What are you smoking?
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>>255916138

>QR code says to put it in winamp

What will it do?
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>>255913371
They can't market.
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>>255913871
The wiiu already has more good games than the wii
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>>255934118

Which had 0 good games. Big surprise.
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>>255933660

Yeah, Osaka was not touristy at all. I speak a little Japanese but I can't read it or write it without cheating with something like a computer IME.

All the signs and stuff are in English, even in Osaka. You don't need to know Japanese to have fun there. But if you don't speak it you will have a very hard time leaving the beaten tourist path.

I really liked to roam around places like Arakawa (I usually stay there in a hostel with a private room for $30US a night) and visit all the local ramen, unagi, sushi, etc restaurants. There's this old lady that has a candy store across from the street too.

If you ever to get to go, you need 2 weeks in Tokyo to see everything at least and you need to learn a little Japanese. Japanese are very appreciative of you making an effort (don't be a weab about it though and randomly throw in Japanese words when talking in English).

I met some really awesome people there.
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>>255915195
Yeah they should buy a wii u so they can play Mario Kart 100, super smash 34 and New Super Mario 14
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>>255913371
They don't treat their third parties with respect. Nintendo knows that Nintendo games are the lifeblood of their systems, which is unique to them. So, third parties are third-rate to them, and they don't make any real effort to entice them to their side.
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>>255934167
>>255934118
Both of you are retarded.
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>>255934389

>Nintendo knows that Nintendo games are the lifeblood of their systems

Then why do they only give special treatment to Mario and Zelda? Every other franchise just withered and died.

Example: metroid.
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