Why are you so bad at fighting games /v/?
>>255646734
Because I don't play video games.
But I'm not you, mouthbreather faggot.
>>255646734
I'm not, faggot.
I-... I'm just only good at western fighters like Mortal Kombat.tekken is literally 2hard4me I've never won a fight and haven't cleared the arcade mode
Bur I'm not. I've won every local SF/Tekken/Blazblue tournament, and have a respectable ranking online. Stop projecting your shitty scrub nature OP.
How to I get better with King?
I've never been particularly good at video games in general.
Because I haven't practiced enough
I have a decent Valentine in Skullgirls
That's about it.
I never play them, I wouldn't even know if I was bad.
>>255646734
Just like most other things in my life, I don't try hard enough.
But not anymore. I'm giving it my all. The answer lies in the heart of battle.
Because they take literal years of practice and dedication to get anywhere remotely resembling 'good' and there's no way I have the patience for it. Props to the people who do though.
>>255646734
I'm bad at MK but decent at SF
I hate MK
>>255648074
no it doesnt
it took me about 3 weeks of playing 4 or 5 hours a day at age 12 to grind in the muscle memory for most fighting game inputs
everything past that is player reaction and knowing matchups
execution stays with you forever
Because there's noone to get good at agaisnt someone inMelee
mfw i found out there is a type of cheetah called a king
>>255647330
Grab like a bitch spam his low kicks 6 times every time
You Win!.
Fuck king
>>255646734
too many people on /v/ that try to play literally every single game with a keyboard
I can never win a match because I get too distracted by all the buff, half naked, sweaty men grabbing and tossing each other around.
How can I fight if I'm so distracted?
>>255646734
Is Juri good for a beginner??
>>255648632
>fuck king
I want to.
>>255648739
You could play Skullgirls until Beowulf gets released.
>>255648739
Pray the gay away.
>>255648385
Execution is one small piece of a much larger pie.
When you're placing top 16 or at least top 32 at majors consistently you can claim you're legitimately good. Until then, don't think you're more than 6/10 at best.
>>255648739
play skullgirls or arcana heart
Because I cant get myself to play them.
I like look and playstyle of BB and GG, but would never go to a local because that simply wasnt I think of as something enjoyable. On top of that I am a PC gamer, cba buying consoles to play some damn games.
I would be all over them if they were more popular on PC but hey, they arent. So no point in wasting my time especially since I cant be bothered to permanently being treated like a second class citizen by asian developers.
>>255646734
ive tried a few like mortal kombat, soulcalibur, and virtual fighter(which is definitely the best ive played) but never got to into it cause im not a fan of pvp and im bad at remembering all the different button combinations
>>255648784
no play ryu
>>255648784
no
master the a ryu fighter first
either
ryu
ken
akuma
gouken
or sakura
sakura is apparently great for beginners
>>255648947
guilty gear had a decently sized community on PC for a while, I dunno if anyone still cares though
also there's GGPO if you wanna try playing a lot of old school fighting games
I am bad. For now. But I practice everyday on my downtime.
>>255649265
I main sakura please play ryu first
>>255649298
I dont. I would only be interested in the current versions of the games. Besides, I am european on top of that. Personally I dont even think that the genre has to be dead in europe. But the imcompetent developers are trying their hardest for it to never be alive. Guess its FPS, Mobas and RTS (if there were any) until I quit gaming.
Fuck asian game developers.
Not enough time to practice much. Dropping combos on the regular, droppingrekkasmore than i'd like to admit, bad at dealing with rushdown.
It doesn't help that all the characters i find fun are 2hard4me. Except cammy.
>>255649265
sakura is very bad for beginners, she requires a loott of execution and a certain understanding of her footsies to be effective at all. akuma is also probably not the best for beginners considering his low health and many mixups. ryu, ken, guile, and adon are considered the best for beginners. glhf
>>255649693
rekkas? oh lord
>>255649610
you'd think that after the last like 20 years of getting screwed on releases you'd move to a real country if you cared about videogames that much
>>255648873
youre a retard
1/100000th of the people who play fighting games are actually tourneyfags.
Being better than all your friends its whats actually important for those of us with legitimate jobs.
>>255649814
>Sakura requires a lot of execution
Not really
>Adon is good for beginners
Also not really, he needs IAJKs to be really effective.
>>255649865
You'd think that no competitive genre fucks over PC, and especially not, europe that much after 20 years. But I guess asia still didnt get the memo and havent realized how big this hole esport thing is here and that the best players in any competitive titles played on this planet come from europe and south korea.
But hey, if they dont want to take part in this movement and make some money thats fine. Its not really impressive, japanese always were pretty stuck up and missed shit actually happening until it was too late.
I'm pretty damn okay at KoF and SG, but I'm out of practice on my Capcom fighterssince all the ones I own are on XB360, and I stopped paying for Gold four months ago.
>>255649814
I hope you're not talking about AE Sakura because she was the most braindead character in the game and required fucking nothing you said at all
I don't even know. I love the Tekken games but I fucking suck at them.
>>255649835
It's weird, I can land yang's rekkas pretty much 100%, only really drop them when the match connection eats shit and loses my inputs, but I almost always drop poison's unless i just mash them out as hard as I can. I've never played fei online because I don't find himfun.
Maybe I just need to work on the timing for poison's, maybe it's weird or something.
Also vega and fuerte are the least fun to play against forever and always.
>never really been good at tekken but enjoy it
>going to a tournament in 2 days and have been practicing like crazy
i-i hope i do well, /v/...
>>255649265
How's Cody for beginners?
>>255648821
Those jiggle physics.
>buy skullgrills in the steam sale
>go online after doing the tutorial and practicing a little
>fucking bodied 8 games in a row
>barely land anything, just constantly getting shit on from a great height
>9th game is against someone equally bad and we have a fun match where he scrapes a win
>10th game get perfected
I don't even have the impetus to git gud when the matchmaking is that fucked.
>>255651046
quickmatch is for midlevel players that want to test their gimmicks or fight gimmicks
I don't really play fighting games because I have no one to play with
I tried really hard to be an online warrior and make many online friends, but its no use
no consistent netplay or friends kills the entire genre for me
>>255650340
>>255650008
I forgot, I'm on /v/, none of you actual play fighting games. did you guys forget that sakura has up to 3 or 4 1 frame links in her BnB? or that her footsies while very effective are awkwardly slow when coupled with her walk speed? of course you didnt forget, you just never knew. and using IA with adon isnt like using it with viper, you can do it very easily without any tricky shortcuts. also i forgot to mention, Bison is very good for beginners as well.
>>255647081
Shit son, you can do this just by spamming forward, forward RP with almost any character.
>>255648556
That would be cool if King was a cheetah
>>255650971
pretty safe character for learning, but he can become very difficult to play well at an intermediate level
>King doesn't use Tiger suplexes, backbreakers, or bombs
I'm bretty gud at Tekken and I main Bryan.
>>255651394
Did you forget her entire gameplan is based around abusing retarded +frames and creating situations that the opponent cannot contest? You really think you play her like you'd play, for example, Bison, an ACTUAL footsies character?
I think you're the one who doesn't know what they're talking about
>>255651394
>>255649865
>move for better gaming scenes
Time to get that autism checked anon
>>255651578
Sounds perfect.
>>255651593
He's a Tekken character dude. He doesn't need more moves. Stop.
Because although I've got the UI and functions of every step of production in Dwarf Fortress memorized, the level of patience and repetition needed to learn a moveset in a fighting game seems like too much for me.
Or maybe it's because I'mwhite
>>255651394
>execution barriers make a character skilled
Yes, Viper is the most skilled character in the game and not a character designed for those who don't want to have to think about what the opponent is doing, totally.
Seriously 1 frame links aren't even hard in SF4, they're not even 1 frame in reality and any good player will drop them rarely. That shit is basically irrelevant after a certain point.
>>255646734
Because I focus too much on positioning and normals and not on getting gud with combos. I set myself up for a great combo and flub it every time.
>>255648632
>spam his low kicks 6 times every time
I assume you mean his alley kicks? They hit 5 times automatically if it's a counter hit, even if you take your hands of the controller after the 3rd hit it will keep going. Doesn't count as spamming if it's a single string.
Anyway,
>complaining about spamming
You don't know shit about fighting games.
>>255650971
He's good because you won't turn into a spazzy uppercut spamming scrub and actually learn how to play instead
Why people recommend shotos for beginners is beyond me
how are my tastes /v/
>>255651678
>abusing retarded +frames
>entire game plan
>thinking footsies is an entire character archetype
its a shame that /fgg/ really isnt any better than you guys. some people just can't understand fighting games
>>255652278
0/10
>>255652247
because Ryu is solid all around
beginners should indeed try to master ryu if they want to see all the stuff other characters can offer
>>255646734
Because I only play with friends rather than online.
Once you get too good at a game compared to your friends it becomes less fun to play it as a group.
>>255652378
oh well
>>255651601
Take it to /vg/'s tekken general
![Sd-aka[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/6PrPOy8.png "Sd-aka[1].png")
because I have no patience and dont play defensively enough or put nearly enough time into training mode.
>>255652314
>/fgg/
>as bad and dumb as these shitters
Don't insult us.
>>255652018
do you realize i was talking about characters for people playing the game for literally the first time? have you ever tried to help someone learn a fighting game before? most people cant even cancel at first. i never said sakura was hard to play, i said she's not good for beginners.
>>255648074
It really doesn't. Just go out and play with your local community a few times a month and you'll be "good" in 1-3 months depending on how quickly you adapt.
>>255652278
Weeb shit.
>Cervantes
Good call. I'm more of an Astaroth man myself, but Cervantes is definitely a solid choice.
Who Soul Cal here?
>>255652314
Why do you talk like that about things you blatantly don't understand? Do you think you're fooling anyone?
>>255652549
DUDETHIS
I HAVE NO PATIENCE FOR FOOTSIE FIGHTER 4
FUCKING STUPID GAME WHERE YOU TURTLE UNTIL TIME RUNS OUT
Because I keep committing to special attacks, thinking they're the most effective path to victory.
Because I keep committing to a jump instead of staying on the ground and working where it's safe.
Because I haven't played a fighting game for three years, because I left my local group as I couldn't improve myself further and was being mocked for it.
Because I keep picking mid tier characters as my favorites, instead of playing to the top tier to gain mechanical advantages.
Because I never pick characters with a "slow" fighting style. This creates pressure for me to be offensive, when being offensive is the last thing I should do. See the first problem.
I know what I should do to improve in fighting games. But I don't do it. Because fighting games are daunting, and learning one is a big commitment. Never mind learning three or four.
>really want to get into TTT2 but the only character that really interests me is Jin because I think his parries are cool and I just like his simple looking karate dude style
>apparently he's bad for beginners because of just frame EWHF and parrying well requires a lot of matchup knowledge and experience
>on top of that playing a solo character is apparently frowned upon and learning 2 characters at once as a beginner is too overwhelming for me
>roster is huge and learning all those matchups is completely daunting to me
Should I just wait for Tekken 7? I heard it's going to be 1v1 again and the roster might be smaller
>>255652626
I don't play many western fighters, most are too slow paced for me and the animations look awful.
then again 99% of fighters are from japan so
>>255651942
Just replace the german with a tiger
>>255652278
>Cervantes
Nice.
>Wesker in back
2/10, you aren't helping your team much with an OTG assist. Rotate your team order.
>>255646734
Giant fucking gorilla hands + shitty twitch reflexes + mental slowpoke
I'm still better than most at fighting games, but I doubt I'll ever be top tier
>>255646734
>Why are you so bad at fighting games /v/?
I'm not practicing as much as i want to. Life in general has been too busy for me to really sit down and enjoy vidya like i use to.
>>255652247
Ryu is solid all around. He has an answer for everything in it's most basic form. His inputs and ultra setups are extremely easy. If you think Ryu teaches you to become a dp masher then it says a lot about how you learn
>>255652398
He also lends himself to mindless spamming of moves that new players will fall onto as a crutch, which is why so many new shotos just do either
>j.HK
>hadoken
>shoryuken every time when they are close
And that is how they learn to play
Compare that to a cody player, who would have to actually learn how to properly play to have any success at all. Characters with DPs especially should not be being played by new players.
>>255652605
don't worry, i still like you /fgg/. at least you guys are usually willing to give anyone a match
![ads_starcraft2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/NmihefA.jpg "ads_starcraft2[1].jpg")
>implying fighting games take skill
>>255652823
I lead with Ammy, should I be leading with Wesker? Also my other teammate should be X-23
>>255652649
>>255646734
But I'm not. I can play with Liu Kang on Very Easy in MK9
Hey just to be sure, UFC games are shit, right?
I played one once and it seemed really bad, so I dropped it instantly, but I've seen people recommending them in two different threads.
>>255652952
>implying APMcraft takes skill
>>255652863
>that passive aggressive comment about an anonymous poster you know nothing about
You are fucking delusional if you think new players don't mash DP in SF4
Delusional and blind
>>255653070
UFC is shit for even real fighting
>>255652278
>Valentine
You're ok by me
>>255652978
You should have Ammy in back, first and foremost. Cold Star is a top-10 assist, and Ammy has lots of tools on her own alongside her slowdown super to help her make comebacks.
X-23 or Wesker are interchangeable in front, although Wesker needs meter less. Putting X-23 second also means you can save her for when you have more meter, then use her Level 3 + Cold Star assist for unblockable setups.
>>255653114
>>255652916
its not ryu's fault if someone is using him wrong
if someone is mashing DP, they get punished
>>255653234
>Cold Star is a top-10 assist
I use it so often, I fucking love it,
thanks for the help, I'm actually going to try that
>>255653282
You can say that about anyone though, everyone is fine if you play them right
What's important is that they don't develop bad habit that will slow their progress and that they will have to later unlearn, which is exactly what playing Ryu will do
>>255646734
Because I don't play fighting games for competition/pvp.
I play fighting games because I like games with in-depth hand-to-hand or swordfighting mechanics. I like games where I can beat people up with really impactful sounds/effects, and games with involved sword duels.
Unheard of, I know, but there's actually ways to have fun with games that don't involve just "trying to win".
I'm not bad, I'm mostly mediocre. Except UMvC3, I'm horrible at that. But I also play that very casually anyway.
Used to be very good at the first BB game. Now I'm mostly playing TTT2 and USF4.
>>255653282
even 3k players dp mash constantly online because it works
ryu is not better for learning the game than other characters and he does teach you to do stupid shit
>>255653114
Oh sorry. If you mash DP you're a fucking idiot learn to play. Sounds like you just get blown up by DPs all day learn to block scrub
>>255653442
All of that becomes more in-depth and fun if you get good at the game.
>>255646734
I started back in 1993. Now it's 2014, and I'm 29 years old.
My reflexes are shit, my hands cramp, and I can feel my skills being drained every time I play.
Xrd will be my retirement party. I'll go out on top like a champ.
>>255653572
you called it bro
look above you
>>255653528
mashing DP only works against people who can't deal with it
any competent player will punish a DP
>>255653572
I don't think you're following the topic of this conversation
>>255652734
You don't need to learn matchups since the game is extremely balanced. Go to the tekken general on /vg/ for tips, there's no fagginess like in the /fgg/
>>255653743
>you don't need to learn matchups in what is arguably the most knowledge heavy fighting game there is
>>255652734
I'm waiting for tekken7 to learn too
I sort of know how to play fundamentally, just don't know any combos and the tag system fucks me over since I have no idea how to use it offensively
I typically like 2D fighters though.
>>255652635
>jhon census
>>255653669
competent players don't play online, and even good players get caught by random things constantly online
"smart" retards will alternate between mashing dp and mashing throw, which is effortless to stuff offline but you'll eat stand techs all day trying to get perfect 2f timing online
A genre that is even more boring than F1 racing. I would rather play anything else than spend time on a fighting game.
>>255653583
I would argue the opposite.
When you "get good", the depth goes beyond two people fighting and starts to become a game of who can lower the other's health more quickly and efficiently. It becomes less about punching someone really hard and more about trying to nail that 30-hit "combo", judging distance with a mental ruler, and counting frames of hitboxes. Learning parries and dodges is as far as I like to go, before it becomes too meta.
>>255654172
Good, fuck off
>>255652734
>>255653867
You should not be so focused on paper theory, but develop an instinctive understanding for how things work.
If you need to mentally go through your notebook when you're playing, you're doing it wrong.
It should be 'I attack with my light punch and chase you with hadoken,' not 'so FCR into the QQD with the slashback for the wavedash, but Fawx has the matchup advantage through his hyper weapon, and Daigo does it like this so I need to figure out the reka piano hands.'
>>255653867
Every character is viable against every character in Tekken. You need knowledge of the characters, yes, but the character you're using doesn't affect it enough to change how the match will play out.
>>255654232
You fuck off. OP asked a question, I didn't, shitter.
>>255654369
This post is retarded on several levels, well done
>>255653442
I like fighting games because I like being able to control some avatar skillfully
in real life, I do sparring and even sword duels, but it just does not compare to fighting games
in real life there is so much creativity and ways to react, but in a game it is more restricted to trying to win
>>255646734
The best thing that came out of fighting games is dead or alive and that's only good because of tits and ass.
>UR BAD
>NO, UR BAD
>nobody challenging each other to a fight to settle it
What kind of fightan game players are you?
>>255650253
The reason why PC isn't a popular platform in Japan is a long story. Basically, it has to do with the fact that mobile networks were developed before broadband over there, so everyone in Japan was browsing the internet through phones during the early 2000's while people in Korea or Europe were playing competitive games on the PC. In general, the PC is seen as a machine for work over there, and I don't see that attitude changing any time soon.
>>255654646
PC is also for VN and hentai
>>255652916
You could argue that a new cody might develop a bad habit of using zonk knuckle in a similar fashion that a new ryu might yolo dp everywhere, the only difference being the cody would have to learn how to keep a button held down. I think you can fall into bad habits with just about any character.
In the end though, I feel like a new player should just learn who they really want to learn barring a few exceptions. I think a person tends to stay more motivated to keep with something if they're playing a character they really like. I mean if someone wanted to learn fuerte as a beginner, are they learning to play "street fighter"? No, not really because fuerte just kind of does whatever the fuck he wants and shits on traditional footsies, but you have to realize the person wanting to learn him might not give a shit about any of that.
I think it's more like if you want to learn "street fighter", a new player should pick a character like ryu; if they want to learn someone like fuerte, let them play fuerte and just make them aware that he's not really a street fighter character and you will have a much harder time learning traditional zoning, anti-airing, and footsies with him.
>>255654614
why bother, i know that no one will actually accept [spoilers]and i know you're all shit anyway
>>255653502
Is dat some mains?
>>255654646
I think he knows that already butt hat doesnt change the fact that they could make a lot of cash in west with this whole esport stuff going on.
Any half competent company knows what market diversion is and adapt accordingly. Or do you think McDonalds sells the same stuff in France that they sell in America? No company does that.
>>255654972
I play ibuki and everyone shits on me and tells me shes cheap and shit
I rarely even get a knock down at all against a good player, I know she relies on her knock downs to get sufficient damage, but damn it bothers me that people don't like playing me me because of my choice in a main
>>255655092
American portions are like double what you get in France
It's no wonder people get fat
I wish I knew how to play Tekken.
Well, I'm still having fun half button mashing, but still.
>>255655492
Because no one likes playing a character who effectively wants to reduce the game to a guessing game, it's why so many people got fed with with AE in general
>>255655605
just keep taking turns blocking/mashing out some buttons
thats how I do it
>>255655524
But its probably even cheaper because they can use lower quality ingredients. When I was at the US and ate at McDonalds I had a worse experience than at the McDonalds in Cairo. And that says a lot, because fucking egypts dont even sell proper meat with their burgers.
>>255655692
that is only if you get a knock down though
ibuki is balanced
she gets shit damage output and takes a shit ton of damage in favor of some fast meter building, lots of target combos, and if you get knocked down, then you have to defend against the vortex
>>255655056
You're here every fucking time, man.
>>255654614
They're only playing them for the story. Don't just them. Why haven't you romanced Subzero yet, scrubs?
>>255655492
Yeah that's one of the things you'll run into if you play a character like Ibuki. People will argue you're not "playing street fighter" anymore once you get a knockdown and that you're going into just set play wake up stuff.
I think Ibuki players have to really like their character and she's one of the characters with the most character specialists because you have to put up with a lot of people talking about your "braindead autopilot mixup" or whatever they say. I can't say I like fighting her or that she's really playing the same game as most other characters, but I acknowledge the shit they probably have to endure.
Because I'm too lazy to find any local competition and I'm to much of a pussy to play randoms online.
Who is/are your Tekken main(s)?
>>255655492
Once a person uses the word "cheap", you know they're a scrub.
>>255655692
WHAT IS A MIX-UP.
>>255656051
thanks
feels better
I like her because she has tools for everything
I picked a char with a high skill ceiling/lots of good match ups on purpose
I even get my shit wrecked all the time, but get called cheap
>>255652684
I understand everything except the part of not picking top tier characters. Seriously fuck top tier scrubby yun or edgy evil ryu or whatever the fuck. If I can´t be good with the character I like then I prefer to stay being bad
>>255656147
Konata,
>>255656147
Xiaoyu/Jun
>>255646734
I-im not.
I can wreck your shit in soul calibur,narluto and jojo all star battle.
>>255656071
you mean you to much of a pussy to play locals and your too lazy to play online
>>255656147
Lee/Steve
I'm okay at them, I just drink a lot and mobas are easier to play
>tfw mexican
>tfw bad at fighting games
I should change my nationality
>>255656147
Angry Joe.
>>255656345
It's probably a mixture of both all around.
>>255656147
Lee, with some Mishimas on the alt side.
>>255656179
meaty and blockstring pressure is significantly diffferent than "guess on this 20/20/20/20/20 that loops into itself and leaves me completely safe and on offensive pressure if you guess right anyways"
>>255656147
I play TTT2 casually and pick leo /kunimistu simply cause I like their designs
they seem to be popular pick, especially together for some reason
>>255646734
But I'm not. I have like 1200 hours clocked in TTT2mostly offline with friends
>>255656147
Drag/Kuni
>>255656414
just play king of fighters
>>255656414
Is that you mystic?
>>255656179
>thinking set play vortex shit is standard mixup game
Let me guess, your main games are SF4 and Blazblue?
>>255656290
Obviously fake, but if this were real this tweet could probably get Kojima arrested. Weed is super fucking illegal over there. Even a gram or two will get you jail time.
Which sucks, because being high and walking around the shops and streets of Japan would be fucking awesome.
![heroes-of-the-storm-arthas_prince02[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0UgSgeT.jpg "heroes-of-the-storm-arthas_prince02[1].jpg")
>>255656147
>playing anyone else other than the king
>>255656245
I would just keep at it, if you like her, you like her. People will talk shit no matter what character you use honestly, especially if you happen to be using a good character and especially when they lose.
>>255656414
I thought you got deported from Mexico if you weren't good at KoF?
>>255656884
ok japan cop
>>255656884
dude japan is way up its own butthole about everyting
its not a nice place to decide to live if you are a slacker or stoner
getting stoned used to be the shit for fighting games for me
I've gotten/better/more experienced with out it, but every time I'd pull some herb and play fighting games, my focus and technical playing ability would go way up
>>255656147
Princess Jasmine.
>>255656147
Zelda!!! Fucking love swordsmen!
>inb4 archery fags
>>255656295
Naruto is not a "fighting" game , yyb or bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb is casual af , the
Games are fun for a little while though.
>>255656972
I'm sticking with ibuki because I learned too much and like her style, but can anyone tell me good back up char?
I also have a shitty pocket ryu and guile, but can't play at the same level I can with ibuki
>>255651593
Because he's a Jaguar
>>255656147
Steve/Kuni
i like jumping/ducking around and being a dick in general
>>255656147
I don't play Tekken, but Italians are hot. :D
>Playing fighting games
>>255657617
W-What?
>>255656290
>>255656439
>>255657131
>>255657261
>>255657617
What's with the shitposting? Am I missing something?
>>255656147
I like the panda, but I'm a sucker forJudge Judy.
>>255646734
I'm bad at defense -- I'm far too impatient.
>>255649376
Anon I hope you git gud because that is the attitude of a great player.
Mind is most important in fightan and you already have that.
>>255656147
King and Dragunov
>>255656147
Fuck all of you, Obama. YES WE CAN! USA! USA! USA! Also Mugi.
>>255656147
Jesus, of course.
>>255657398
if you play ibuki your fundamentals are probably shit and you'd be a lot better by learning proper neutral and footsies
guile is a good pick, so is someone like chun that needs to play honest/solid and can't rely on random damage
anyone that needs to use normal antiairs and is low gimmicks is a good pick, esp. people with easily stuffed reversals e.g. balrog, vega, rose, fei (sort of don't get too attached to his specials other than rekka), bison (don't just spam scissors/reverse/stomp use his normals), trying to play zoning heavy with ryu, etc.
mfw people have trouble with soul calibur combos
I'm black and I play sf on pc. I don't feel like I'm getting any better at all. I play Oni and Yang and I'm trying to learn with Sakura. I guess that whole "all black people are good at fighting games" meme doesn't apply to me.
Best hatemail?
>>255655492
damn man it´s such a shame to hear that. could you tell me what´s her situacion in ultra. did she get nerfed a lot? I really liked her in 3rd strike. she´s my favorite character
>>255652916
Cody actually has a ton of gimmicks that can make you fall into bad habits really easily. Add on that how advantageous a lot of his normal moves are and you learn some really awful things.
I first tried to learn the game with Cody and dear god it was bad on retrospect.
I think Fei might be one of the best characters to teach the game with, honest as fuck all round and pretty simple execution. Guile's up there too as well as Chun if they don't fall into the trap of spamming legs.
>>255656147
>>255658297
you're supposed to play weeb games normlord
>>255658465
Honestly, fuck that shit. I can't fucking stand it.
>>255658314
I've only ever gotten one
>>255650971
good
his combos are so fucking easy
>>255658738
you're bad because you're fighting your inner anime
>>255657398
As >>255658183 said try picking someone with good neutral and footsies, learn someone who covers your current weaknesses so that you can apply it to Ibuki and understand her better, it's why I picked up Cammy, my pressure and setups were ass. I really like the Fei choice and anyone who doesn't have exceptionally good specials is a good choice as well.
>>255658201
Post more tits.
>>255658827
Salty tears are so delicious
>>255658183
>>255659171
my knowledge of fundamentals seems solid
I try to link/whiff punish/poke into my unsafe moves
guess I'll stick with guile/ryu but might pick up akuma
I want to learn yang/yun one of those guys too
I know how to play bridget from GG who also relies on knock downs and set ups kind of like ibuki, but he has amazing pokes.
>>255654228
No, when you get good the game becomes much more mentally dependant. It becomes about trying to read your opponent and throw them off.
One might even say it becomes aboutfighting your opponent, not their character.
>friend has Wii
>ask what games he has
>smash bros and mario kart
>played five minuted of smash bros in my life
>looks really fun
>sit down and play for four hours
>get my shit wrekt until I get the hang of it
>beat my friend
>his brother comes home
>play 3 and a cpu
>still kicking ass and having fun
>matches are close and fun
>come back a few days later
>autistic child I knew from my own childhood there
>he's picked sonic
>don't say anything about it but keep picturing the community
>he stays up in one corner of the screen
>doesn't fight until the rest of us are down to 1 live each
>call him out on it
>"No bro Sonic is the best hero"
>start focusing him in fights
>he loses and starts raging
>why u heff 2 be mad, ees only a game
>have other friend come, one of the brothers leaves
>he sets it to 51 stocks
>nearly hour long match
>ends with me vs older brother
>1 live each
>greater than 90% damage
>get smashed
>laugh asses off
>play with people who'd grown up as Nintendobabies
>get my ass fucking handed to me
I still have fun.
>>255659887
This is going from what most Ibuki players are like of course, if you think your fundamentals are solid enough then they probably are, you know yourself best. What do you feel are your weakest points?
Not what can't you do, what are you weakest at?
>>255658297
>"all black people are good at fighting games"
This is a meme.
Really, it's just a handful of ghetto niggas that grew up around Justin Wong in Brooklyn Chinatown, or grew up around arcades in general that are good at fightan.
>>255660194
cool blog
>>255658973
What's wtf is an inner anime?
>>255660282
I don't know all the match ups still since I only started playing SF seriously ~1 year ago.
I'm not aggressive enough to deal enough damage or keep pressure is usually why I fail I would guess.
I don't think I am really a bad player, just don't practice enough and am an online warrior which is a handicap in its own way.
I probably suck with guile/ryu cause I don't know how to really make good use of zoning.
>>255660376
Thanks:^)
>>255660880
the 1st time you boot up blazblue and do j.a with kokonoe you'll realize your entire life up to this point has been a lie
Does Tekken have any characters good for learning fundamentals?
>>255661302
It doesn't matter, they all play the same.
>>255646734
Because I don't play them.
I guess I used to be decent at them.
>>255660976
zoning is just an extension of footsies, it just plays out in a more complex way over a larger period of time
the goal of zoning isn't REALLY to hit people with projectiles that's just bonus damage
the goal of zoning is to get your opponent to commit to a bad option so you can get a high damage punish, just like footsies, projectiles are ranged high startup pokes that force your opponent to react
the goal is to condition them to react in an unfavorable way and punish them for being impatient, which is almost always by getting them to commit to a forward jump and then antiairing them
the principle is identical to trying to set up a whiff punish, it just takes more effort, time and attention
Because my mind works slowly and I have piss-poor reaction times.
I can only ever be less than average in pretty much any real-time game, especially fightan.
>>255660976
If you want to improve your zoning with both projectiles and normals I highly recommend trying some Sagat, his normals are great for keeping people out and I don't need to mention his fireballs.
For pressure try Cammy or Yun, someone rushdown based that'll force you to keep up pressure to play effectively. Dudley is also good in this regard and if you're good you won't fall into the traps most bad Dudleys do.
and don't forget anon, training mode is invaluable.
>>255646734
because best fightan husbando won't teach me
Do I have shit taste /v/?
>>255660976
just stick with ibuki -----> best girl
>>255662451
Man, tell me how great it is in the future because Ultimax isn't out yet.
Also why the fuck do you have 2 mains (which is fucking impossible) in a shit game?
>>255661696
I think the reason I picked ibuki initially to learn was because she has responses to zoning and
her ultra 2 used to pay off big time, but better players never get baited into it.
anyway what you describe is not so much my play style, but it happens while unleashing sonic booms as guile naturally.
I have had good zoners force me into taking damage one way or the other with out ibuki.
>>255661870
I like ibuki for her offensive ability, i just fail to take advantage of it too often.
I still need to try sagat. I never considered him
am not a fan of cammy really.
I want to play dudley just to learn the match up, but he doesn't scare me as ibuki
most dudleys will end up rushing into a poke or whiff punish and ibuki is so safe I can keep him away.
>>255662561
I will, but I need to learn more char seriously so people will have more fun playing me at least.
and maybe have a back up
still thinking I want to learn akuma as a main alternative.
>>255662451
VERY
Virtua Fightan best fightan
>>255662757
Because i havent decided which of the two to focus on.
And the future is pretty fucking great.
>>255662983
holy shit didn't mean to write a novel
just don't feel like playing SF right now, would rather discuss it
>>255663283
Ah so you don't have a main then.
>>255662983
footsies is an integral part of zoning, and good zoners won't be constantly throwing projectiles when you have options that blow through them
e.g. if someone is using something like an ibuki slide to get through a projectile, that should be a high risk option that you can punish just as much as a jump -- it's all about spacing and timing
the only way to actually get around a good zoner who pays attention is to beat them at their own game, by commiting to use safer options more often like walking and blocking and neutral jumps, and contesting their ground game heavily so that they are less likely to antiair you if you eventually decide to jump
zoning is just longer ranged footsies
>>255663005
>>255663736
I don't think zoning has ever worked effectively against my ibuki
it works in the corner against most other char I play, but I can space jumping or slides so that fire balls never even come out safely
if in the corner, ibuki has raida and command dash for me to try to get out.
and ultra 2 goes through fireballs at the same distance to zone effectively in the corner I think.
I just suck at using zoning effectively myself.
I sometimes use kunai to land in front of an opponent incase they walk into it
>>255664451
it's because the players you're fighting aren't actually zoning, they're just throwing projectiles and hoping they hit you or chip you
zoning is the hardest thing to do in the game, so it isn't surprising that you haven't fought anyone who does it well
>>255664779
possibly
still ibuki has a lot of answers for projectiles
I forgot ex neckbreaker which is pretty solid.
and kunai can help correct a mistake of jumping too soon or a slow moving projectile
>>255664451
did ibuki got nerfed in ultra?
>>255665403
I'm not a pro with her, but no
you now have to make an adjustment for people with a delayed wakeup though
she is basically the same with a few new tricks
You can launch with her crouching hard kick target combo and knock people out of the air after
and her cr jab is more safe
these seem to be the biggest advantages to scrubs like me.
>>255659946
>fighting your opponent, not their character.
That's the part I don't like.
I don't want a mental battle of wits with my opponent. Literally every competitive game offers that. If I wanted a test of reaction speed and foresight and trying to remain one step ahead of my opponent at all times, I would play Quake III or some other twitchy arena shooter.
I don't care about challenge or competition or mindgames. I just want to punch some character's face in, and I want it to look like it hurts.
>>255665157
EX neckbreaker is going to eat a full punish from a smart zoner.
It's something Ibuki players love to do and it's pretty easy to exploit.
>>255665834
I recommend counseling
>>255665834
Well then you're playing the wrong game for that mate, mostgoodfighting games are pretty shit in that regard.
>>255665871
I only do it at decent distance when I am guessing a fireball is about to come out
I rarely use it
her overhead goes over fireballs too
>>255666146
but if you think he's going to throw a fireball and ex neckbreaker and he doesn't -- he just got a full punish and you're outside again and guessing
that's zoning
>>255666029
Fucking tell me about it. What I'm really looking for is more like... a fight simulator I guess. But aside from the hilarious Toribash, there aren't many of those.
So I stick to traditional fighting games that have a really impactful feel to them. Mortal Kombat, Tekken, and Virtua Fighter admittedly aren't great for this, but they're the best I know of.
And Soul Calibur, while progressively getting more anime-like and combo-centric and steering toward the Street Fighter audience, is really the most diverse/intricate/entertaining swordfighting simulator I've played.
>>255666146
Trying to read fireballs is a bad idea man, if you whiff a neckbreaker in anticipation and someone just blocks instead then you're gonna eat shit.
Use neckbreakers on reaction.
>>255666679
it might be reaction or baiting it
idk, but I rarely use it since ibuki gets around fireballs so many other ways
>>255666652
I was assuming ex breaker was safe on block, but idk
still, it works if can catch them during recovery time
>>255652635
BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR APPLEDOUGH
>>255666850
-13 on block.
Can just ultra that with like 90% of the cast.
>>255653654
nope, don´t put your lack of dedication up to your age, several players have proved that age isn´t a factor here, reflexes can be maintained.i´ll play till i don´t want anymore, not when i feel my age limits me, daigo is 34 or something like that.
>>255667142
I activate EX breaker just out of range of U2
I swear zoning probably doesn't work on ibuki
can also focus dash through fireballs and super jump cancel over them
>>255662451
Well, yes, but that's not so much the problem as the fact that you're a faggot.
>Terrible at fightans
>Love them anyway
Bought almost everyone on my XBL friends list 3rd Strike, man, the rooms and matches were fun.
>Started on Street Fighter EX Skullomania
>Then MvC2, but was never fast enough for that crazy game, I play it like SF
>Got 3rd Strike, fell in love with the wacky feel and KNOCK YOU OUT theme, still maining Urien and Yang
>Branched out to different fighters, even picked up AE2012when it was completely free for three weeks, loved going online and trying my best at E.Ryu
Playing Skullgirls now, hot damn, Big Band is 10/10 fun.
>>255667247
>I EX breaker out of range of U2
I never mentioned any character specifically and on block you're running straight into your enemy's cock.
My comp is poop and i have no recent consoles
>>255667459
>Urien
>Big Band
10/10 taste.
>>255647309
Playing with your 5 scrub normalfag friends is not "local tournaments".
>>255652635
Me.
And by "soul cal" I mean "I like to play with the character creator, have filled every slot with custom characters, and I either fight the CPU in vs mode as my characters or just watch two CPUs fight each other as them, and sometimes I think up little backstories for them that all sort of connect."
So I don't really play Soul Calibur V so much as a fighting game of my own design that runs on the Soul Calibur V engine.
>>255667496
I mean ibuki has ultra 2 that goes through fireball too which I can react to
I think I can bait fireballs around that range, but a bit furtehr back to get an ex breaker
