>There are published books on how to play fighting games
Fuck this gay Earth
>People use the Free Market to make money any way they can
Oh oh oh no!
Someone thought of an easy idea to chump people out of their money!
>>255359953
HAHA HOLY FUCK.
>It's kind of a nebulous term with no 100% clear definition
At least it's slightly informative, not nearly as bad as that book by Movieblob.
>>255359869
Anyone who would care enough about fighting games to buy a book on the subject is already good at fighting games
Teach me how to Douken
>>255359869
>There are published books on how to play chess
Seriously though, there's no shame in educating yourself if you want to do anything competetively. And no, I am NOT implying that fightan is as difficult as chess.
>>255360258
Teach me, Teach me
>>255360386
>like robots
>your character will only do what you tell it to
But that's not at all like robots.
>>255360043
This.
Why is /v/ so autistic and oblivious to obvious cons for easy cash?
Is /v/ full of communist fuckwits that believe any concept of capitalism is taboo?
Why don't they just make charts?
>>255360335
>the only way to educate yourself on how to play a video game is to buy some scrubs shitty book
>>255360758
Why are you misquoting me?
>>255360675
There is nothing wrong with this other than being able to look it up online instead.
Yomi
>>255359953
Footsies are neat. I like Juice's video on it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQQCan5oo90
>>255359953
>>255360386
>>255360675
>street fighter is the only fighting game
>>255360974
Fuck everything.
>>255360969
>There is nothing wrong with this other than the thing that is wrong with this
>>255360226
It's free
>>255360043
The book is free, I don't know what the fuck OP is talking about.
>>255360974
its not a read anymore. its yomi
>>255360758
Its free
>>255360969
>>255361216
But this book IS all online. In PDF format.
>>255361135
The book is mostly about street fighter since the fundamentals carry over to almost any fighter, it says as much itself. Almost any modern fighting game could be described as "like street fighter but..."
>>255360517
have you never programmed a robot before?
they don't make shit up, is the point.
>>255359869
There are published books on how to play minecraft
>>255361446
OP never said it costed anything, he just said it was published.
And "published" these days is a loose term, given putting something on fucking deviantart or your tumblr can technically mean you "are a published writer" if you're a total shithead who would claim that without actually being published by a publishing house.
>>255361503
OH MAN, I WONDER WHAT YOMI MEANS.
Fucking weebs.
>>255361767
But robots act automatically. They aren't just input -> output. That's what differentiates them from normal machines.
>>255362410
god I love everything in that series
>>255359869
Good, maybe now /v/ can say it actually knows a thing or two about fighting games
>>255362217
maybe robots in movies do, but in real life they only do what you tell them to do.
now, you can get clever and tell them to do different things depending on input they gather from their surroundings,like an option select, but they're still limited in their capabilities as to what YOU told them to do.
>>255362410i have fapped to that far too many times
>>255359869
It's free and it's "published" by SRK. How about this:
>There are college classes that teach you how to play Starcraft
>There are scholarships for LoL players
>>255362848
>implying they can't follow a simple set of rules and logic
>implying fighting games aren't just puppets
>>255362410
Oh yeah.
>>255363198
what was it?
>>255363306
Install Appchan or 4chanX.
>>255359869
You have no one to blame except for people on /v/ and stream monsters who the books still won't help but they will buy.
>>255363306
brown skin
purple hair
>>255363024
I've never met a LoL player in my life
>>255362973
nigga those are fucking shelltoes like adidas or converse. reebok classics dont have shelltoes.
did some fucking white guy write this
>>255363306
totally not a goddess of a neko sort
>>255360110
Its kinda true. Some people think it means what was in the image. Some people just think it implies the poke/general neutral game and not specifically the momentum game. Especially since some characters don't need good footsies to get the moment. Like Yun Cammy or Zero.
>>255363983
>Play Guile with friends
>Tell them not to jump
>They always jump
>>255361723
Smash Bros: It's like Street Fighter but not a fighting game.
>>255363983
Too be fair this needs to go into detail. Since there are safe jump ranges and good ranges to attempt jumps in general. Also though you can still AA in games like GG/BB its still really jump heavy.
Telling people not to jump ever is fucking stupid. Maybe in SF2 never jumping is true though. But i feel like this guide wants to teach overall fights to people.
>>255360991
I don't even play Street Fighter or Fighting games in general that much but it's been a really interesting video so far, thanks anon.
Just got my hands on TTT2 prima guide. Nice stuff.
Also
>throw EWGF->OTGF combos
>can't link punch>hadoken in SF
I just can't get it, 2d fighters seem to be 2fast4me
>>255364657
You're welcome.
>10k for Blazbits
>>255364626
It's a SF2 book anon.
It's trying to teach fundamentals and one of the first rules is DON'T JUMP
Then a later rule is JUMP BUT ONLY IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES and that goes into more detail of when it's okay.
The no jump rule usually applies to stuff without airblocking or parrying.
>>255359869
>doesn't know about sparcmarc guide to staking
it's like you're a fucking 12 year old
>>255364763
FYI, the frame data section of the book is wrong. The frame data in the character sections is right because the authors did their own research, though.
>>255364940
Yeah, I got that already
Fucking Harada, he won't give away full framedata because he want to artificially prolong the game lifespan.
>>255364870
DON'T JUMP is only a rule in SF4 because SF4 is dumb
>>255365223
SF4 is actually pretty friendly to jumping.
However it is a rule in SF2 and Alpha 2.
The entire reason the rule is to not jump is because there's more and better options on the ground as long as both players are standing.
The only exception is divekickers.
Why? That sounds incredibly helpful since almost all fighting games have abysmal tutorials. Skullgirls is the only fighting game I can think of that put effort into teaching you.
>>255365435
There's also many guides and videos online that will go into the same detail if not more thanks to being able to show you how things work.
>low tier players BTFO
>>255359869
There's been published vidya guides for decades, junior. 4chan is for users 18 and up, please leave.
>>255365723
>>low tier players BTFO
Do you even read what you post?
>>255365723
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGh4ZU4H5Hk
>>255360991
This is cool shit.
>>255365723
i thought mss/msp eventually just dominated the cable teams
>>255359953
What is the difference between footsies and zooning?
>>255366026
Did you keep reading to the end?
It's telling you that you're losing the game at the character select screen if the tops are dominant.
>>255366097
God I fucking hate nogs.
>>255366293
Shit you're right, I suck dicks and the author is a dumbass
Only thing I didn't like about this is it's rather SF centric, when in reality, there are tons of other fighting games. It makes sense though, because they're using SF2 as a teaching tool. I just get depressed when new people come along and don't realize how big and developed the genre actually is.
>>255366287
Not a whole lot. Both are used to put yourself in a better position
Zoning is more controlling space/limiting the opponent's movement options while footsies are used to shut them down and prevent them from starting anything in a closer range
>>255366287
not much
but keeping your opponent out of reach of ANY normals (like fullscreen sagat / dhalsim), and keeping your opponent in a specific place (the corner) is more zoning, whilst footsies usually involves playing around the space you and you opponent's normals actually reach one another.
>>255366502
>>255366293
He's saying you're losing if you haven't learned how the top tier characters work yet which is pretty much right; especially in MvC2's case.
Wording is a bit poor, though so I see what you're getting at. Unfortunately due to the balance of that game, though, I can't imagine that team winning against a top tier team being played by a competent player, though.
>>255367104
>though
>though
>though
Holy shit I'm out of it.
>>255360991
Is this supposed to be as eye opening as it is? I don't even play SF.
>>255367525
It really does feel like a huge revelation, doesn't it?
I actually got better at DaS2 pvp after watching that video. Footsie game applies in any pvp game where attack range and attack times exist.
>>255368047
I play Melee and this is blowing my mind. I paused it to go get a notebook.
>>255367525
well it's like he said, true understanding of neutral game is not something a new player will grasp for a while. its just trying to jump in a do shit to hit your opponent. you simply can't think quick enough to footsie when you don't even know what all he normals in the game look like or what might be pressed where and when. you need to predict where your opponent will press a button, and how you might beat that - whiff punish, counterhit the startup, FA it, etc - that takes shitloads of matchup and general game experience.
>>255360974
>HE COUNTERED YOUR COUNTER!!
Or maybe, maybe, YOU JUST GUESSED WRONG!!!
God I hope CliffyB's new game and UT4 bring arena shooters back into vogue.
>>255360991
Holy Euphoric Hell. I couldn't get past the first 20 seconds.
*Claps two fedoras together in applause*
>>255368829
the first minute is awful, I almost didn't make it either.
>>255368829
Skip it, there's 47 minutes of great information after that.
>>255368782
If you guessed wrong, he guessed right
>>255360991
>footsie games
>smashfags use "dash dancing" to try to emulate the real fighting games that don't turn a character around on a friggin 1-on-1 game
>they actually prefer using a back-attack sometimes because it's actually better than the forward attack
Watching this just reminds me of all the ways smashfags are so deluded when they consider smash a real fighting game
>>255369646
What purpose does shitty bait have in this thread?
>>255369102
I checked and it's still painful the way he keeps repeating everything several times like a special Ed teacher in a class full of learning disability students, the pace is unbearable. I bet this could have been done in fifteen minutes.
![GameGenie-Snes-Manual-e1303597380123-600x800[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Nbb8mS7.jpg "GameGenie-Snes-Manual-e1303597380123-600x800[1].jpg")
Yeah man, 90's books were so much better.
>>255370062
>he keeps repeating everything several times like a special Ed teacher in a class
He's trying to teach fighting game players.
>>255370050
I like Sirlin's writeup about scrubs.
Book should just link/reference/quote that.
>>255370050
>"thinks he's hot shit"
>thinks he's a heaping pile of steamin' hot feces
Why did some scat-fetishing retard's ass-backwards phrase get so popular though?
>>255369646
What does Smash have to do with this? Mentioning it will just make this a shitposting thread
>>255370062
Wasn't it livestreamed? I thought he was just more or less ranting.
>>255370360
>scat fetishing retard
u wot
I can shoryuken everytime yet I have trouble with the timing on charge characters, am I just shit
>>255359869
>>255370579
That's what I assume the phrase originated from. Where else could it have? When you think of greatness, is "hot shit" what you compare it to?
>>255370619
Little bit
Worry more about charging moves at all times, you'll get a basic feel for how long it takes to charge if you know how to do it during a combo
>>255370745
ryu confirmed for GOAT
>>255370069
You stick with your 90's books while I win at Nintendo with my 80's book.
>>255359869
Is Juri good for a beginner??
>>255371384
do you sleep
If there's one kind of game where a book is acceptable, it's fighting games. A book would be a good aid but playing the skullgirls tutorials is probably about as good. It's nice to read on the can, though.
>>255370050
>DSP in a nutshell
>>255360991
>watch whole video
>click the top related street fighter match
>the neutral game looks totally different
Holy hell this shit is magic.
