How the FUCK did this die already?
>>255249145
>bad game
>have to buy it
>subscription
>no optimization
>>255249145
It's a fucking awful WoW clone with floaty shitty combat. It's a complete clusterfuck. Anyone who played the open beta should have been able to see that from the first 20 minutes of gameplay.
>>255249145
>being surprised a generic as fuck mmo died
>>255249145
>copies WoW in design
>combat is retarded
>models look like fucking shit
>lags on lowest settingin b4 toaster
>generic as fuck quests
>actually wants a sub for all of this
Theres more but im lazy.
>>255249145
I don't know.
It was marketed to hell on here.
WoW clone.
We've done this, what. Eleven times now?
WAR
Conan
W*
Rift
LOTRO
TESO
Arguably DDO
Neverwinter
Fuck, I know I'm missing a few. Anyway, why are you surprised?
>>255249145
Because it's not just worse than WoW, it's just bad on its own too.
not enough lewd and moe
I actually bought this shit on Friday. I told myself not to, but I did.
I rolled on the recommended server and saw one other person in three hours of playing. I'm not even shitting you. One person.
I have no motivation to ever log in again. It was literally the worst $60 I have ever spent.
people only bought it for the preorder bonuses
they know it's gonna go F2P, so they aren't bothering to subscribe
>>255249710
How could you forget TORtanic
make a thread about it everyday
Maybe read a fucking article instead of making the same thread over and over
>>255249874
>darkwing duck
>LET'S GET DANGEROUS
fucking 10/10
>>255249874
>>255249710
>Age of Conan
>WoW Clone
The only reason it died was because non-existent content once you reached Level 80. The game was actually really fun, even the grind was amazing on PvP Servers.
I never had as much fun grinding in an MMORPG as I had on PvP Servers of AoC
>>255249874
FUCK ME.
I knew I was forgetting an important one.
>>255249145
I lost all interest in the game when they gave in to SJW about breast sizes, without so much as a fight.
The devs proved themselves as cancer tier at that point and the only notice the game got was threads about tits being downsized because apparently the very symbol of femininity is offensive to women. Who knew?
>>255249710
I really don't think AoC and DDO have any business being called WoW clones.
Many of those others are valid, sure, but those two? I'm not saying they're GOOD, mind you, I just don't think "WoW clone" is a particularly apt description.
>try out the beta
>kill enemy
seems fine
>kill another
>double kill
you serious?
>kill another
>Triple Kill
>it never ends
>you cant turn it off
dropped
>>255250003
I heard it was a lot more PvP active, but the way to go with PvP centric games is sandbox, or go the Age of Wushu way and make tournaments and the like.
It still did play a lot like WoW.
>>255250061
they added in bigger boobs after that though
didn't save the game however
>>255250241
Kritika Online?
shit endgame
inaccessible content
shit cosmetics
if you're going to have an mmo in 2014, then you sure as fuck better have something for the casuals to do
once all the normalfag shittards got to max level, they found out that the game wasn't made for them
>>255250285
Wildstar
>>255249145
It was never alive.
if you went outside and asked a hundred thousand random people what they thought of Wildstar, 999,999 would say "What he fuck is Wildstar" and 1 would say "It looks shit."
Open betas are suicide for MMO's. They all do it now, and all the hype that was meant to come with the launch is gone, people don't care and move on.
this is what happens when devs listen to Nostalgia WoW retards.
>WE WANT 40 MAN RAIDS !!
>WE WANT HARD RAID ATTUNEMENTS BACK !!
>WE DON'T WANT SHIT HANDED
>WE EVERYTHING FROM VANILLA WOW
>HEROIC DUNGEONS SHOULD BE REALLY HARD
WS Devs : Okay here
>BAH !!! 40 MAN RAIDS TAKE TOO LONG TO SET UP !!
>LOL !! THIS FUCKING ATTUNEMENT IS RETARDED. IT'S GOING TO TAKE US DAYS IF NOT A WEEK OR 2
>HOLY FUCK? WE'RE TIMED IN HEROICS? SO WE NEED TO KILL ALL BOSSES FAST TO GET THAT ONE LOOT? FUCK THAT
that's what's going on the Wildstar Leddit subforums.
the raids didn't play like WoW raids. where you have a mod that tells you what to do. since in WS the attacks are telegraphed and random.
took guilds from WoW like Method and Blood Legion quit.
people started bitching that the attunement for the raids was crazy. you had to get plat on all heroic dungeons.
it was just a disaster. this is what they get for listening to WoWfags. the devs should had done their own thing. instead of pandering to nostalgia fags and tryhard retards.
i heard recently they remove the timed heroic thing. because people would just leave the dungeon because they knew they wouldn't make.
>>255250582
The TERA beta was fucking great, even though I didn't buy the game my opinion was a lot more favorable after I played.
>>255250801
Terra beta was the best time I ever had in an MMO, the /v/ and /a/ guilds were amazing during the betas.Once live turned on it became shit.
>>255250801
>The TERA beta was fucking great
It was only great because of /a/ and /v/, it's the only reason why anyone kept playing.
>>255250801
>Those proper hitboxes on attacks
>Being able to walk/roll/jump/dodge out of even normal attacks to take no damage
>soloing every boss while parties just watch helplessly
I loved the combat but damn if the rest didnt bore me.and my friends were too casual and found the combat hard
>>255250003
>I have never played ragnarok
>>255249145
It tried to ignore/cut everything that people like about WoW for the sake of wanting to be different and wanting to kill WoW just like Guild Wars 2.
>>255251094
How does it matter at all? I didn't say AoC was the only MMORPG that had fun grinding.
>>255250801
Aww shit terra beta man
>Joined NO FUN ALLOWED in beta
>Told to get on vent
>First day
>everyone either yelling or being 2shy
>Tons of fun
>Come on second day
>50 fucking people in vent
>only one person talking
>It's some horrible sounding chick
>ohboyherewego
>Leave the vent
>Change characters over to my TFT guy to play with imoutos
>Get a whisper to get back on vent
>Massive GURL GAMER DRAMA in the space of a few hours of her joining then quitting
>Stay in TFT and play pretend
Why are men way better at beinglittle girlsin video games and women being with them so much drama?
>>255251051
should see it now, they added these Avatar weapons at set levels from level 20+ that give you insane stats and dropped like half of the quests and doubled the xp from the others.
levelling has never been easier
>>255251394
>being with them
bring with them...
>>255250946
>that feel when
Man, I loved shitting on Aphotic and zerging the whole server. The /a/ vs /v/ wars were great.
How do I relive this feel /v/?
>>255251394
RIP Big Nasty
How the fuck is FFXIV the only WOW-clone that is doing fine right now when it had the worst start of any MMO in history while all the ones that actually had a bit of hype died immediately?
>>255249145
Pandering to feminazis
Ostracizing what should have been their core fanbase
Subscription model
Shitty WoW clone
Wait how is it dead?
>>255251524
Never again, it was a once in a lifetime feel. Be glad you experienced it.
>>255251524
>tfw we fucking beat Aphotic
Anyone have that massive collage of our victory?
>>255251440
Did they add some no kill steal code yet? having parties try and steal my boss was hilarious but annoying.
>Roll out of the way of a slam attack
>watch whole party get OHKO
>kill boss
>do dance as Elin
>receive mad
Oh what I would give for my friends to stop being so casual.
>>255251394
In rift, I had a female Guild Leader and she was pretty good. Pushing people to work and all that.
Some drama with stuff like the guildmaster saying about an another girl "She's such a slut, she slept with all the guys in the guild". but it was cool. Left Rift after a while because... man I dont need to play MMO's.
>>255251524
EU was hilarious as fuck too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1bXtRZVTQm0
>>255249634
all new games hype audience potencial customers are killed instantly by 80% when they announce its subscription based
>>255251565
Basically all this.
They had a hardcore playerbase already to go and they fucked it up.
>>255251394
>Why are men way better at being little girls
Because they understand what attributes are actually attractive in a woman, and can emulate them better than an actual woman when the objective is simple emotional/sexual fulfillment.
Meanwhile, it is only incidental if a real woman displays some of those attractive and interesting qualities.
tl;dr guys can act like their dream girl, easier than a woman can be a dream girl
>>255251563
A dedicated Final Fantasy fanbase, another fanbase tired of Final Fantasy XI but not tired enough to actually go to WoW, people tired of WoW looking for the next biggest MMO, all the press they got from their game redesign, etc.
Plus the game is tolerable, so that helps.
>>255250946
>>255251029
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOSCv78NJZc&index=5&list=PL9CF33435F3F4A562
>>255251524
archearge release might be crazy
>>255251563
Final Fantasy title
>>255251668
I'll dig through my old TFT/NFA photos to try and find it...
>>255249145
Did it really die? I've heard nothing of the sort.
>>255251917
That didn't help it during its first three years.
>>255251394
Are you sure that's not TFT you're thinking of? NFA had Ulboarax and Facetime and all the abrasive alpha males. TFT had all the beta scrubs pretending to be girls and muting their mic in mumble...
the game didn't have hype. i don't know what the marketing team was hoping for. i think they didn't want to build their game out of hype. they wanted word of mouth to get out.
the thing is that the game feel unoptimized.also when i was playing it on launch there was TONS of bugs. the gameplay is a mix of standard MMO + Guild Wars 2. it works really well.
not everyone likes the Telegraph system. i saw a lot of people having problems with it. having to actually pay attention to their surroundings is pretty hard for people coming from WoW. the first dungeon was raping people left and right. everyone needed to time their interrupts at the right moment and keep communication.a lot of people would just quit the dungeon.
i stopped playing because people were just too stupid.
if this MMO ever goes F2P,it would be the best MMO f2p. if the restriction were fair.
>>255251910
game looks like ass.
not that it'll stop some anons from making it fun to dick around in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBwLZSi7I-Q
I have a friend who's been playing this nonstop since it came out.
Is there some redeeming factor to it?
>>255251661
Oh I'm fucking glad indeed, I even paid for the game when it launched to extend whatever hijinks we had left,I ended up missing every opportunity though. ;_;
It's kind of weird now that I look forward to playing MMO betas rather than full games at launch, but it makes sense since the community isn't splintered in these instance grinding kind of games.
>>255251764
Wish I hopped on EU early enough to join in that. I came in CBT2? and the guild was nearly dead.
>>255251910
I really hope so man, I really do.
>>255249145
>tell people I'll bet them cash money the game will fail
>shut up faggot it's gonna be great
You can not do a shooter based mmo and not have traditional shooter controls. Old school mmo controls are old for a reason. A simple google search shows you people want look/fire both on the mouse not fucking wasd for looking and click/hold for movement. Then you have that silly as fuck moba style skill range cone shit. It doesn't work. The game is shit and soon it'll be free to play but nobody will care because firefall will be f2p in just over 24 hours.
>>255252053
they admitted they fucked up and dropped the monthly fee whilst they fixed it.
>>255250801
tera starting map took 2 HOURS TO COMPLETE
(1 HOUR IF YOU RUSHED IT)
after the first beta i lost all interest in loosing my time like that ever again
they then made the starting map smaller, and tried it out again
i got bored when i reached a farm place and was asked to kill 7 of a variant #12 of the starting enemy elks
fuck this shit fetch quests
>$60 game
>monthly fee
Yeah off. I can multiple games on steam for that.
>>255251971
For WoW guys, dying mean not having 10 million people at the same time.
They still have a lot of servers.
http://www.mmoserverstatus.com/wildstar
>subscription-based MMO
that's what ya get
>>255252101
>game looks like ass.
Yeah, high seas raid v. raid on pirate ships looks super shitty.
There is literally no pleasing you cynical fucks, which is the real reason why mmos flop these days. The expectations are so high that they can't be realistically met. The only successful games rely on nostalgia and comfort to maintain players.
>>255251668
I found this one where one of the NFA guys stole their name and made them do the edgy S P A C E S
>>255252168
>CBT2
it was boring as fuck and some people wanted to try NA out. Shit hit the fan again in CBT3 and crashing the Esports Tournaments until they all quit.
Never forget the 'magic don't kill me lines'
>>255250014
you and everyone else
>>255252452
Aha I remember watching that. Commentator guy got so mad he went reverse mad.
Pretty sure you guys are forgetting the best guild to murder.
>>255252101
http://youtu.be/_VAagXsxX6I?t=48s
>>255252649
>godess
>horassment
Every time.
>>255252171
I love how you think you were the voice of reason in a sea of fanboys and it wasn't the other way around.
4chan wanted this game to fail so bad, pretty much everyone on here was saying it would.
On the note of the game itself, it has the basis for a solid MMO, it just needs more content and optimization.
I look forward to picking it up again in a few months to see what has improved.
>>255252087
>>255251394
My favorite was whoever that NFA leader was at the time trying to get /jp/ to join some stupid dick-waving PVP contest, but /jp/ didn't give half a shit and the NFA leader got incredibly asspained and started whining like a little bitch and making threats.
>>255250408
i don't think you can into numbers
>>255249874
Why didn't they just call it force heal or some shit?
>>255250408
Never alive he says
>>255252053
Nothing could have helped it in the first three years.
>tfw when you realized you would never be a better PvPer than Stylish
So guys. Secret World.
Verdict?
Love the puzzles. Looking in a specific bible in Latin just to find the password for a door is so fucking fun.
>>255251565
>Pandering to feminazis
This is the most bullshit excuse.
We literally lost nothing and gained a feature in this and yet you still consider it a bad thing.
>>255252126
Scat ERP
I really wish I was joking.
>>255253052
EU Aion F2P has more players in random PvP Clashes than in that image.
Wildstar still have full generals on /vg/
Not dailies but still.
>>>/vg/74781384
>>255252908
Oh, Stallena? He literally still plays. He's the most beta fuck in the universe.
This is him trying to mediate a dispute in the mumble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4oKesuX1QU
He literally had to go to the hospital because his heart hurt after stressing over the GvG with Aphotic
>>255251051
This, so much this man. Taking on BAMs was fun as hell. If you had the skill you were unstoppable. What finally killed Tera for me was running the same couple dungeons several times every night and the retarded gear enchanting system. Burning gear and failing to upgrade 40+ times in a row was not fun.
In Wildstar half the damn time I dodge and am well out of the red and still get hit. Also no way to dodge white damage = bullshit.
>hurr action combat is a good idea in an MMO
>hurr i just want to play wow with action combat
I fucking TOLD YOU IT WAS GOING TO BE SHIT
>>255253234
Yeah, free to play vs pay to play, free is always going to have more people.
But you can't fight giant vending machines in aion.
>>255251668
Holy shit I found it
>>255253234
Said image was also taken just after launch. The honeymoon period's over, I have strong doubts there are that many people still there.
In other news, isn't it hilarious how little anyone's saying about ESO? Like, damn, that shit died before it launched.
>>255253207
>b-but internet feminazis in muh videogames!!
>>255253328
>No way to dodge white
Yea that pissed me off; played the beta and saw I could move and fight at the same time and expected TERA hitboxes again but NOPE.
WS's combat is just "they swing, you get hit" and its boring as shit.
>>255253381
>Yeah, free to play vs pay to play, free is always going to have more people.
Not in this case, Aion EU is pretty much fucking dead.
>>255253364
But that's what wildstar is.
It's world of warcraft with a more adult setting, better graphics, and a better combat system.
The raiding and dungeons in this game are the best, by a large margin.
Honestly the most fun i've had in an MMO since like, Asheron's call or planetside.
Problem is there aren't enough of them
>>255249145
good
my cousin wanted to get this after I build him a new computer
I didn't have the heart to tell him it would be shit
he's been trying to fill the hole in his heart EQ left behind and it just hasn't worked out
>>255253398
because they butchered everything elder scrolls was
>Badly optimized
>Nothing overly new besides Paths which are minor
>Housing is neat but ultimately fell short in its use
>Everything is too damn silly/comical to the point of disgust for most people
>Extensive attunements that are grinds instead of skill tests
You need to ask why you would play a game before you ask why not. There was no real why for this that could sustain it.
>>255249145
Majority of playerbase in instances =/= dead
Same thing with ESO, people are still playing these games and the companies are still making bundles. It seems most everyone on here expects an online game to be making money only if it has as many subscribers as WoW.
I've been WS for a bit, lots of people on my server (Widow) and have been enjoying those dungeons.
>>255249145
Because they globally reduced the breast sizes in the game a while back.
>>255249710
I don't think TESO counts much as a WoW clone, but I hear you on WildStar. Shit gets boring I can barely play it more than an hour at a time.
>>255253545
And now its dead, outstanding.
>>255253163
ez
>>255253545
>Wildstar
>more adult setting
I'm sorry, what about the "OH SHIT YOU LEVELED UP CUPCAKE OOOOH YEAH TRIPLE KILL UNSTOPPABLE" cartoony-as-fuck setting is "adult?" Like, if you like it, that's great, but it's not mature at all.
>>255253545
I agree completely, but I'm gonna put it down for a while just so I can see how it feels in about half a year
>>255249145
b-b-b-but muh attunement and hard dungeons!Games only hard cause they did little to no testing on what little end game content there is.
>Completely ecstatic during the alpha/beta of GW2
>After launch everyone realizes you can finish the story in like a day, PvP is imbalanced and lacking modes, WvW is a zerg rush, theres no endgame except a handful of dungeons for cosmetics and dyes
Leveling was a blast though, but it crashes hard at max level.
>>255253629
The sad fact is it's because people don't want difficulty anymore.
the first dungeon you get at level 20 in this game is harder than level 90 raids in world of warcraft.
But people dont want to work, they just want to grind.
>>255253674
Something can be cartoony and adult ya dingus, the constant reference to rape, sex, and violence is what makes the game more adult.
Hell there's badly drawn draken porn pretty much everywhere in game.
>>255253163
Fuckin' Stylish man
>>255253907
>The sad fact is it's because people don't want difficulty anymore.
No they dont want generic cash cow WoW rip offs
>difficulty
Go play eve and come back here
>>255253907
Whatever you say, mang. Enjoy it, I guess.
>>255253860
GW2 had fun leveling, complete lack of end-game killed it for me.
That and the fucking 'I am the main character even though you do all the work, and kill everything' Green Prick storyline.
shit optimization is the biggest issue.
Not casual laptop compatibility (not necessarily intel HD but that's pretty useful to have as an ace) even, but on my 660 it was running like total ass. ~40 FPS in areas with more than 10 people in it.
The game's also totally bland in combat, you do your rotations and nothing more, there's no reason to ever change up. There's nothing where you say "Oh I should use this skill instead of that". It's always just a rotation.
and lastly bots. there's already tons of fucking bots, gold sellers, credd resellers, and powerlevelers out there.
I'd love to see it go f2p though, the game's set up perfectly to be f2p, they could make housing a largely cash shop oriented thing, similar to RIFT.
>>255253907
>difficulty
Pfthahah
You cant be fucking serious, its harder than WoW sure but its still a casual as shit game.
>>255253907
My space nigga
Pretty much everything he said. I had more fun on my first lvl 20 dungeon in this game that most endgames have given me in years. Such a shame they didn't advertise to the right crowd >.>
>subscription fee
>>255254089
>>.>
>>255254074
>Relying on people you don't know
>Ever considering this easy
>>255253984
It's a game that marketted itself towards vanilla wow lovers and the dev team consists of former wow devs.
It is supposed to be similar to vanilla wow, and that's a good thing
>Eve
No anon you're confusing boring and tedious with difficult.
>>255254018
Nah as I said in my previous posts, there aren't enough dungeons, as fantastic as they are you can only play them so many times.
I hope it goes free to play so I can check on it in a year and pick it up again.
>>255254074
This nigga dont know stormtalon
he dont know
>>255254191
You're delusional. Wildstar is not a difficult game.
Go play some real video games for fucks sake.
>>255254107
>needing to actually pay the subscription fee
CREDD is fucking easy to get right now, if you don't at least have 6 CREDD from gold at this point you probably shouldn't be investing time into MMO's at the moment.
>>255254274
Stormtalon is only difficult for completely new pugs. Theres nothing tough about sticking to a person, standing out of bad shit, etc. Its the same old mechanics from plenty of games.
1. Terrible optimization
2. Boring themepark that adds nothing new to the genre
3. Unbearably brainwashed community
All led to a quick death. Thank god, one less WoW clone for people to shrill on /v/.
>>255254274
>>255253907
>come launch
>finally get level 20
>oh boy dungeons
>spend 2 hours wiping on the first mob
>having felt pain this good for 5 years
>shed a solitary tear because I know the casuals will complain and the dungeon will be nerfed
>finally get to stormtalon
>mfw
>they turned "this kills the wildstar thread"-chan into a tittymonster
>the game's already dead so no r34 will ever come of it
LOOK AT THE SIZE OF THEM
>>255252906
Not him but,
>missed all the hype threads
>ignored all the threads talking about how good it would be because it was 'different'
There was no reason from the fan boys. There was only droning. Anyone with a brain knew this game was gonna be shit and look there. It's shit.
People use the excuse of
>the expectations were too high
No. We told you fucking morons it was gonna be shit but no. No no.
>It's gonna be good.
>You weren't even in the beta.
>You have to give it t~ime.
Fuck you. This game released. Sold like shit and now nobody is talking about it.
>>255249145
>Why did a WoW clone, years after people stopped caring about WoW, in an industry where "WoW-killers" were all complete disasters?
>>255249145
because it was made by chinese
>>255253907
Rape, sex and violence are not mature, they are immature attempts to seem mature.
>>255253398
>ESO
Most people I know that play MMOs, myself included, didn't even realize it had even released.
>>255254619
Just because a game isnt popular doesnt mean its not epic. You people just cant appreciate it so its sinking. Fekking casuals.
>>255254607
Good lord
I'm still not playing the game
>>255253984
I think you are confusing hard with time consuming
>>255254725
>You people just cant appreciate it
>cant appreciate something they appreciated a decade ago
Ha
>>255254607
Thank god. I got sick of anons posting screencaps of that fucking video with the godawful animation like she was the greatest character to grace the vidya with her presence. Just a fucking redhead with a Southern accent, and that's apparently enough to get you off? Lord.
>>255253327
This vid is the sole reason I didn't play Tera after release. Stall was fucking retarded. I remember he was taking away everyone's gbank access and shit too. I miss the days when Ulboarax led us.
is there any mmo with combat like monster hunter? I will buy it right now
>try out beta
>combat is shit
>try out again just before release
>combat is shit, delayed and floaty
>want to cancel preorder, they dont even answer
>forced to chargeback
>my friends who I preordered with go apeshit
>OMG ANON U DIDNT EVEN LEAVE STARTING ZONE OMFG HOW DO YOU KNOW ITS BAD?
>try it out on their accounts at high level
>its still shit
>BUT IT GETS BETTER! YOU WILL GET USED TO IT!! HIGH LEVEL IS REALLY GOOD
If the combat is shit why should I bother?
>>255254763
I don't want you to fucking play that pile of shit, I just want to see a dick between those
FUCK
>>255254619
Except it's not shit, its completely average with the exception of housing which is good and raiding which is the best of any MMO.
You guys will either hop on, play to level 10 and be like "Well this game is bad" then form your whole opinion of it there, or even worse you don't like raiding at all and will call it a bad game because it's not made for you.
>>255254687
You're being pedantic and you know it
>>255254607
oh cool they fixed her model
>>255254809
Sure thing casual, whatever you say
>>255254840
Monster Hunter Online
>>255253667
Top lel
>>255254832
I can get off to anything
>>255254290
Don't you give me that. I play lots of games that rely on individual skill (DS2, SC2, Arena shootems to name a few) but I still really enjoyed what the bosses had to offer; maybe if only I got to watch my party members die while we finished it two man.
But yes, I'm not going to tell you to go eat a dick, because it's obvious you have some reckoning of taste, but you needn't be so fast to discount something that people legitimately find fun.
>inb4onv
>>255254897
>Except it's not shit, its completely average
Jesus Christ you are the worst fanboy of all time
>i-its not good but its not bad either guys, please play with me so it stops dying ;_;
>>255254981
>I play lots of games that rely on individual skill
>lists multiplayer shit
Fucking seriously?
>>255251782
How could an MMO not be?
>>255254981
>Don't you give me the truth
Oh okay well I guess you have fun being casual
>>255249145
Tera 2.0.
Grind and no content.
And don't think it'll change, it never will.
>>255254897
You do this in every thread.
Sorry but the game is shit.
It didn't die
The end game is fun and it'll have it's niche player base for years to come. Just 'cause it doesn't boast 10 million subs means it's dead.
>>255254897
Y'know, I'm really sick of the "b-but you just didn't play enough!" excuse for MMOs. If the game isn't fun within the first hour of play, why the hell should I bother sticking around for another ten or twenty or fifty? Some nebulous "but it gets better!" promise? Fuck that shit.
MMOs should be fun from the moment you start playing, not just after you've already invested dozens of hours into them.
>>255255217
No the dwindling numbers and dead zones means its dead
>>255255017
I'm just not blind, you guys are so desperate for another TOR
Just because a game isn't amazing doesn't mean it's bad.
I played the game wanting good dungeons, and I got good dungeons.
Why you are so mad that people actually enjoyed the game is anyone's guess.
>>255254680
I do not believe, your question in a composition, made sense too much?
>>255249145
Because PSO2 was still better.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2OcMYL1zsI
>>255249145
Why the FUCK would anyone expect a WoW-clone to be successful?
>>255255268
You can thank WoW for this shitty idea that MMOs have to slowly lead your through its content rather than dropping you in there with all the features available and going "Do what you want and have fun"
>you guys are so desperate for another TOR
No we are just not blind
>>255254897
>it's completely average
So it's shit. Thanks, I just said that.
This 2014, if you are accepting average you're a piece of shit. There is no reason this game should be average. There is no reason it couldn't have been great but it's not. Why? Because they tried to stay old school and they tried to copy what other people already did when they could have done something new but you know.. ideas are hard. They didn't have a trillion dollar budget so they couldn't try something new.
>Lets strive for average!
>Being mediocre is the same as being good!
Go fuck yourself.
>>255254607
What a shame, I loved posting it.
Those tits make her look like shit though, it's barbie all over the place.
>MMO
>open ended character classes with Monster Hunter combat, but a bit smoother
>highest goal is to hit legendary status which gives you a customizable gear piece that you can make yours and tracks what you have done
>legendary status includes things like killing a lot of other players, leading a party to kill a beefy raidboss for the first time, leading a mercenary group, serving a king, becoming an amazing blacksmith
>players can be kings and open up their own areas for recruitment and armies
>legendary gear can be taken if killed, but everyone sees who has the gear and can kill/steal it for their own or return it for a reward
The game would expand based on player activity which would open more kingdoms, factions, and build its own law system. It'd force people to role play.
>>255255396
ARR was. Incoming huge debate.
>>255255083
>>255255117
I suppose you both could do me better and tell me a game that is not multiplayer, relies on large amounts of individual skill, and is enjoyable? I mean, I play bullet hell games too, but I really don't know what you're looking for; dwarf fortress?
>>255255353
>Why you are so mad that people actually enjoyed the game is anyone's guess.
Epic meme bro, upvoted
No one cares, so stop making shitty threads on /v/ thinking people will support you playing a shitty game
>wowcloneinspacehashtag
>>255255440
>Blaming the developer and not the customer
They just cater to demand. It was clear that MMO players wanted more progression than freedom, and they got it. Just accept that you're a minority and the glory days are over. It would take a brand new dev to even attempt to make a risky new MMO.
>>255255289
source?
>>255255268
they should, but they're not designed that way, you can either dip in and enjoy what it has to offer or don't
Weeb garbage
>>255255353
>I'm just not blind
Yes you are.
>you guys are so desperate for another TOR
This fucking excuse again, it only shows up in Wildstar threads.
You faggots seriously act like biodrones.
You can't deal with people not liking the game, so you think it's a conspiracy against you.
>>255254948
I can get off to you talking about getting off to anything.
>>255255372
When will it be stateside ;A;
>>255255593
>They just cater to demand
A demand that is filled by WoW.
>glory days are over
Your right, themeparks other than WoW are all dead. Wildstar is no exception.
>>255255441
It's average, yes, like I said with redeeming qualities, namely music, dungeons, and housing.
It needs work, hopefully it will be better in a few months
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eqODTgM_hI
>>255255536
>This nigga is really this mad right now
>he thinks I made the thread
>>255255723
Ask again in 2017
>>255255754
Can you blame a company for making a game they know will sell for retarded shit tons? You'd do the same in their situation for money.
>>255249710
Neverwinter is actually decent though.
ARR is doing well because it has something to float on. An existing fanbase. It's also easy to level, you can blow through it in a week or two.
Wildstar is average, but it has nothing going for it. No decent lore, no existing fanbase. Being average alone, no matter how charming it might seem, is not enough to keep the game afloat. That's what every was saying all along when we shit on Wildstar. Good God was it excruciating to level in beta.
>>255255830
But this game didnt, it died on release
And no I wouldnt, because making themepark MMOs is totally pointless.
>>255255723
It already has an English patch, just play the JP version.
>>255255771
You show up in every wildstar thread, poorly defending the game.
Then you get upset when people don't fall for your shit.
Uninstalled after 15 minutes. Cant understand how people lasted longer than that
>>255255886
Looks more like WAR
Why devs aren't making a 2D MMORPG like Maple Story?
>>255249145
>gameplay screams controller, devs refuse to implement
>dated graphics on launch
>shit world with shit characters
>cover the world in shit tier WoW quests with voice acting
>aspired to be vanilla WoW knock-off with gimmicks like paths
Devs need to look at what's working now, not what nostalgia fags remember about WoW in 2006. And put more emphasis on their worlds. Yes we want some raids and endgame content at launch, but if looking at the world while leveling to get there is painful I'm not going to do it.
>>255255289
well you must still be playing this so it can't be dead yet
>>255255941
>It already has an English patch, just play the JP version.
>He Doesn't know about the Gaijin ban from 2 weeks ago after the DDOS that went on for 2 weeks
You pretty much need a VPN now, and some JP vpns don't work.
>>255255941
I've not defended anything for about a month guy, hell I've not even been on /v/ for more than a month.
I've just been using my remaining sub time to open these worthless ass boomboxes and getting jack diddly.
>>255254607
Source Engine porn when?
>>255251563
>Multiple classes/proffessions on one character
>Great music
>Lot's of fan service
>Square is actually reasonable about it's sub numbers
Game is actually decent, and it's set up in a way encourages you to keep working on one character.
Square is also not trying to "kill WoW" They just want some constant money flow. XI is their most profitable game to date, and that never even came close to WoW's numbers. it peaked at 450k. 14 is already at 600k, so if it keeps up, it will keep making money for them.
>>255255946
I have a friend who's playing but not a whole lot. I think he said he just bought it to weather the drought until the next WoW expansion. Doesn't see much hope for endgame, thinks the attunements they've got are fucking retarded.
>>255256053
>the Gaijin ban
I thought that just applied to SEA?
>>255256089
>I've not defended anything for about a month guy
Did I say a month?
Also I like how you stopped posting screenshots after I called you out.
>>255252461
Holy shit. That UI looks just like WoWs. Minus the action bars, of course.
>>255255886
Never4get the shitstorm, the greatest mmo shitstorm.
>>255255482
and this exact thread would be made about it a couple months after release. it you wanna chat with people who actually can validate their information or allow people to have opinions, get off /v/
>>255256264
What happened here?
>>255253939
I can't tell if roleplaying, autistic, or its Wootle.
>>255256228
Well actually you "called me out" here >>255255173
And I continued posting, and if your claim is "You defended wildstar once like a month ago" then i'm guilty as charged you got me.
Would you like more screenshots
>>255256228
>I thought that just applied to SEA?
The original ban was SEA only because they now have their own version.
There however is now a large ban on non-jp IPs(depends on your ISP but 90% of isps are banned) because somebody ddos'd sega for 2 week to the point where you couldn't login or access their website.
>>255255497
don't feed them
WoW clones keep failing because they're targeting an audience that simply doesn't exist.
Blizzard says they have 6m active accounts. But look at that number for a moment, that is active accounts, not PAYING accounts. Blizzard includes both Chinese players, who pay substantially less, make up a huge portion of the playerbase, and don't even have ACCESS to most of these clones to begin with.
But they also include trial accounts. WoW is F2P up to level 20 and have been for a significant amount of time.
Once you account for that, how many people are left in the target audience? Fuck all. How many are left that would abandon WoW for your clone? Next to none.
Take a look at the most currently successful non-WoW MMO's.
EVE is completely different, with a completely different fanbase.
FFXIV manages to stay afloat on its brand name, and more competent devs. It's similar to WoW, but different enough to gouge out its own niche.
And then there's Runescape, which, after it revamped itself to be more like WoW, nearly died. Now they're going out of their way to return the game to the way it was before it turned into WoW clone. A significant amount of its subscibers only play the 2007 legacy servers too, which are nothing like WoW.
TLDR, they want to WoW audience, but the WoW audience doesn't even exist anymore.
>>255256407
>this running NO OPINIONS gag
It's just as cancerous as any other meme. People circle jerk and come up with ideas all the time on here.
>>255256421
Game had a really good F2P model, company called Mail.ru bought out the devs and turned it into a insanely bad cash cow.
People didn't like it one bit and went to the forums to simply discuss it, GMs went on a crazy damage control parade and started locking every thread, even ones they had created.
It pretty much killed the game.
I use to have a pm message on the forums when they existed from one of the producers named Chomp who had a huge rant about mail.ru and pretty much called the result of the patch "post-Mortem".
>>255256001
The grafix were half the reason I didn't even bother. Like, cartoony has its place, but this is just...it's so awful, it hurts to look at. And they expect people to bother sticking around in that world? Hell no.
>inb4 "b-but you're just mad it's not brown 'n bloom!"
Cartoony or exaggerated styles can be done well, but this isn't. You seriously expect me to want to hang around with guys like >>255255771 in a world like that? Nothing about that image or any other screenshot or video I've seen of the game is appealing. Nothing at all.
>>255255842
oh yeah, and the cosmetic options are fantastic... especially how your armor progresses. fuck no
>>255255997
because maple story is garbage, and mmos don't really lend themselves to being platformers in general
>>255256438might as well continue
>>255253667
What am I reading? A guy took their guild name and they got pissy about it?
>>255256790
aw bb dont be like that
hurtin my feelins n junk
Hated the artstyle; hated the LOLSORANDUM humor
It literally did nothing but make me resub to WoW.
>>255256618
They don't include trial accounts in their shareholder meetings. Chinese non-subbing players, sure, but not trials. If they did, the numbers would be considerably higher, since technically a trial never goes dark.
Unless you have proof that trials are included in those numbers, I'm calling bullshit.
You're right that the MMO audience is shrinking, though. Themeparks aren't the way to go, and nobody's going to be able to replicate WoW's success without something truly revolutionary that will draw in more people to the pool. What that is, who can say?
>>255256001
i was turned off by this awkward disney-esque first introduction teaser with that girl that pisses herself over seeing the player character.
for the rest, well, what do you expect. the decisions arent made by the devs, but the publishers. if the publishers want a wow-clone, they get a wow-clone, and it will bomb, just like any game that is just a clone of something else.
>>255257184
>>255257275
The MMO market is already at it's peak, and MMO players are unlikely to switch games as they've ploughed so much time into a single game and don't want to start over.
>>255257275
Why does it look so terrible?
>>255256885
please do, if he seriously wanted you to stop posting, he wouldn't have bitched about you not posting for a moment. Also I enjoy them.
>>255256472
well that's fucked. good thing i didn't bother getting into it. fuck you, sega. fuck you to hell. i was hyped for that game like 3 years ago.
The real question is when is the new dark age of camelot thing happening
>>255257431
Fraps
Unfortunately I didn't realize that while taking the pictures
>>255257436
>>255257616
>>255256438
What race is that?
Anybody else here waiting for Tree of Savior and hoping that it turns out well?
I can't remember the last time I played a MMORPG like RO where you had actual freedom in builds. Or where you could really mob enemies. Or where classes were distinct enough from each other that you would look for specific classes for parties instead of generic "DPS, TANK, HEALER".
Really, I can't help but think that MMORPGs nowadays are overly designed. X class gets Y kinds of skills so that they can fulfill Z role. City A is the designated low level area, with Maps___ through ____ and dungeons ___ through ____ containing monster types ____, _____, and ______ that spawn in the exact same place every so often and stay there. Meanwhile, you gain Tier N equipment that you will toss away for Tier N+1 equipment shortly.
It feels like RO was one of the last games in the genre that let the players figure out how they wanted to play, instead of laying out a linear progression that has to be followed for maximum efficiency. I miss actually having to think about my build.
>>255249145
Please stop posting this meme/bait. Thanks.
>>255257713
shitty webm i made
>>255257751
Amazoness NPCs that you encounter throughout the game, I don't remember their name
>>255257817
where do you get to do that? looks like fun
>>255257951
If you play explorer, throughout maps are paths of red and blue flags, each red flag gives a speed boost that stacks to 5, blue gives a jump boost.
Helps with exploring and getting places quick
>Buy it
>Roll this Warrior
>See my sword a mile away from my back
>Cancel sub same day
Shame I was looking forward to it too.
>>255257771
Me.
I want to feel RO feelings again, but I doubt that'll happen.
Not to mention that even WHEN it gets ported to EU, it'll be probably by Nexon or some shit that'll make it pay 2 win garbage.
All I want is RO in full 3D with good graphics and same mechanics. Just like in my MMO animus (Log Horizon andSAO).
>>255251659
It's not lol, these people will fully admit they've never played wildstar past level 20 but claim that they know anything about the end game. /v/ for you.
>>255258123
>>255249145
lack of elins
>>255258243
thats what it takes for you to quit a game? sorry you cant feel fun
>>255257817
and you've posted it at least a dozen times or more
>>255249145
>thinks because it uses slutty neko girls it will be good
you are a sad pathetic fat lonely retard
>>255249145
Poor dungeon setup. Half-finished bugged quest lines. Incomprehensible story that throws you into it assuming you're going to give a shit about it at all. Generic as fuck blatant rip-off races of other MMO's. Steep learning combat curve. Poor class scaling and balancing.
Overall its just uninspired. Should have dumped half their advertising budget into the game and it might have been half way decent. But their business model is one of suicide. No previous fan base of other games to pull from or established lore. Thinking they could make an MMO you have to buy and subscribe to with no nostalgia power was a very stupid move on their part.
>>255249145
its not dead lol
>>255258370
I'll probably post it a dozen or so more times the rest of the year, so avert your eyes now.
I want to have sex with this model
I like Wildstar. I wanted WoW BC, I basically got WoW BC with additions.
The only thing I'd change is the "get silver on all dungeons" part of the attunement. In WoW you could always fill raid spots with mediocre people and still get shit done, but the average skill required to get silver in all dungeons in wildstar is the equivalent to a good/very good raider in WoW.
>>255258495
>>255258370
Wildstardrones on overtime.
I personally just can't stand the fucking cartoony style. I fucking hate that shit. I don't mind it being stylized but holy fuck this cartoon shit like WoW needs to die in a fire.
>>255258642
Oh and I'm not going to deny that the game is dead, if you want a half-decent community you have to go Dominion on Pergo or bust.
>>255253984
>Go play eve and come back here
the only thing eve has that is difficult is the patients required to play a boring ass game
>>255258697
jaded randoms leading miserable existences
lol
>>255258697
>>255249710
>WAR
If only EA/Mythic didnt fuck up so badly we probably wouldnt be in this mess
>>255256983
You don't get how serious some of these "gaming communities" can get about their guild names.
>>255258251
>game is somewhat active at the endgame but completely barren in the early game
That means there's no new players. That's a horrible sign.
>>255259012
I have seen hell
>>255253907
>Hell there's badly drawn draken porn pretty much everywhere in game.
>>255253907
QUE
