>Perhaps the oddest thing about this remake is the presence of in-game advertising. For a game that is staunchly anti-capitalism, as evidenced by the snarky critiques that appear on in-game billboards, it seems contradictory for those billboards to then scroll to reveal a poster for an upcoming PS4 game. More harmful is that those ads contain depictions of human characters, violating the otherwise consistently odd nature of the game's fauna. Though rarely seen, these ads still took me out of the experience in an awkward, fourth-wall-breaking fashion.
what the fuck
http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/oddworld-new-n-tasty-review/1900-6415825/
>>255157321
so much for all that bullshit they were spouting about caring about fans and hating publishers and their greed.
Lorne talked about this months ago. They're not ads in the sense they've been paid for; the team just wanted to take an "us indies are all in this together" stance and decided to promote other games for free.
Yes, you can debate if it's a good idea to break the "reality" of the game world, but it's not a case of Lorne selling out
why are there ads in this game at all?
I hope they get eaten by a pack of Scrabs
I'll probably get it anyway once it comes to PC, I just want that 5th game already.
>>255157912
And then month after release when public's attention is shifted, they start advertising something else.
ugh I knew Lorne would fuck it up somehow.
Wow a journalist actually complaining about advertising.
>Ads are PS4 exclusive
Fingers crossed. At the very least we'll get a mod for the PC version.
I haven't even noticed it and I've put 12 hours into this game already.
Who caaaaaaaaares?
This is Oddworld.
You fucking drank from Sobe machines to replenish health way back in Munch's Oddysee.
>>255157321
it's okay, they're only doing it ironically
I hate indie pride bullshit, no one cares if you're friends with other developers.
When the original creator of a game makes a remake of his game, it's pretty obvious he sold his soul.
>All these crybabies moaning about ads. Ads that arent even hurting them or obscuring (dont know if spelled right) the view,If your going to complain then complain about gamebreaking glitches or othe stuff that MATTER
Jesus fucking christ
>>255157912
>the team just wanted to take an "us indies are all in this together" stance
I fucking hate that. Also, Sobe in Munch's Oddysee. Do they even make Sobe anymore?
>>255159660
>your
>oddest thing
>>255159660
We didn't tolerate it when HR had it and we're certainly not gonna tolerate it now.
>buy pc version
>mod the ads out
enjoy your garbage, console gamers
>>255159660
You are greentexting like it's some retarded 9gag pic with shitty opinion. Get the fuck out.
>>255159541
Lanning had a vote on his site on what the next project should be and the remake came out 1st place iirc
I'm not even interested in this but I don't think that's really selling out
>>255159983
That's because it's taken from the comments on the gamespot review.
>>255157321
At least they're subtle, If i saw those in game i wouldn't of even known they were for an existing product.
>>255159983
>>255159927
You didn't realize he's quoting a comment?
>>255159983
You're a fucking idiot, just leave.
>>255159362
>Who caaaaaaaaares?
>This is Oddworld.
the entire point of oddworld is the destruction of an impossibly beautiful world being destroyed by petty greed and industrialism. the whole world is plastered with adverts for the latest product, which are little more than sanitised propaganda for the utter desolation of the world.
actually putting corporate ads into an anti-capitalist game with no regard for artistic integrity or consistency is a fucking insult
>>255159660
>what is artistic integrity
Can we blame Lannning for any of this or is it all Just Add Water?
>>255160115
The only other hypothesis is that he's a talentless hack who can't create anything good anymore. Real talents likePhil Fishdon't care about their fans request.
Jesus christ. this is what this autist is crying about? I had to fucking look for it. Its barely noticeable. It could have been anything. This isnt anything like the pepsi in battlefield 2142 or cingular wireless in all the early 2000's NFS's.
This shit aint an 'out of the experience' moment, This is a gamespot hipster being stupid.
>>255160804
The storytelling in Oddworld was all about the little things in the background like the employee database. It's almost as bad as having outright ads in between screens
>Having to pay $20 to look at ads.
>>255157612
Their justification for the Sony timed exclusive was because "Gilray explained the delay for the PC release is due to the knowledge that a simultaneous release alongside consoles would result in some people pirating the PC version and not buying either of them"
I think they caved to greed a while a go, and basically told fans "Fuck you, you thieves"
>>255161973
That and probably because Sony paid them for the timed exclusivity.
>>255162204
So they used the excuse of greed to hide a different kind of greed, which ultimately fucked over their fans? My point still stands.
They claim to have done it as a gesture of good will. I don't think they got paid to do it. Regardless, I didn't buy the game because of it but I hope they sell enough to make Exodus.
>>255162384
Yeah Anon. I don't know why you think I'm arguing with you when I'm agreeing with you.
i like how it's okay to nitpick to this degree for this game, but when people tore apart bioshit or such they were just being entitled.
make up your fucking minds "journalists"
>>255160804
what am i even looking for here?
His new voice makes me sad. I haven't played the original for at least ten years and I can still "hear" it perfectly.
>>255161973
>Honestly mad he can't pirate it.
>Fan
They've been a hurting dev for a long time now. This OH SO JEW is them trying to have a viable business model.
If you don't like it then vote with your wallet, but you weren't going to buy it anyway.
>>255163337
>new voice
what
>>255163805
Lanning redid the voicework.
Do I have to say this in every thread? Sony did not pay for exclusivity. The game is coming to PS4 first because the game was on stage at E3 2013. And there was NEVER going to be a simultaneous release anyway because the team is too small get all SKUs working at the same time.
OP is Matthewmatosis.
Oddworld series is a shit series Matthewmatosis. What's so funny about farting??
Go away you fat irish prick.
>>255162384
Exactly how does this fuck over fans in any way?
>>255161973
Fans are not thieves and fans can wait, they've been waiting for years now.
>>255164018
That's too bad for the team then.
>>255164035
come again
>>255163306
Humans have no place in the Oddworld games. I am more bothered about the damage to immersion than the "Jewish" aspect.
Okay so how different is the game? I don't have time to be reading some shillspot review.
>>255159784
Those flavored drinks with the lizard on them?
>>255163805
Yeah.
Hearing him say hello in some goofy American accent rather than his slightly alien voice is shit.
>>255162935
It's because Oddworld is a slightly obscure and older game. Obscure/old games are ok to bitch about in the eyes of "journoalists" since they think no one will give enough of a shit if they get shit wrong or if they're being stupid.
>>255159126
This
Or atleast some way around to remove them
>>255157321
>it seems contradictory for those billboards to then scroll to reveal a poster for an upcoming PS4 game.
What about the other versions of the game?
>>255164035
Go masturbate to your waifu, Ken Levine
>>255164404
Does the game still at least have ads of the in game stuff like scrab cakes and paramite pies?
I could see why some would say this is immersion breaking.
Sickening.
>>255160804
>It's on the tracker
Okay, it's worse then I thought
>>255159660
>i am 12
Weird you would say that outright, mane.
>>255164404
One excuse I might accept is that Glukkons have gotten into video game business and their creative team had come up with a "new" race to play as in their games.
You know. Not unlike Oddworld Inhabitants coming up with Mudokons and Glukkons.
>>255160804
It's ginger Matthew you're speaking to.
Yeah he's pretty much a pedantic arsehole.
>>255165527
Literally who?
>>255165527
TinyTears detected.
>>255165438
Nah, the devs flat out admitted they put it in there to help another studio.
>"I’m an anti-capitalist and proud of it because capitalism is evil" http://www.vg247.com/2012/10/02/oddworld-abes-oddysee-interview-stick-it-to-the-man/
While I am upset that it breaks the immersion, I can understand the idea of advertising other indie games to support them considering they don't advertise themselves much
>>255165820
Whoop and the point went over his head and he laid down the no fun sign.
>>255163805
It's only the voice from the post-Oddysee games. I don't see what the huge fuss is about.
>>255157321
>in-game ads
>95% of the game is 1:1 remake without any changes aside graphically, literally the laziest thing imaginable
>3% of the 'new content' is just new 3 second cutscenes on top of the old ones
>the definition of an HD remake
>thirty fucking dollars
>>255166042
>post-oddysee games
>games
There was only one Oddysee game. Good job. The second game in the IP (Oddworld) was Exodus.
>>255166564
Do you know what post means?
>>255166564
can you read
>paying for ads
Fucking hilarious.
>>255157321
>reviewing a game by his advertising
we've reached a new kind of hell
>>255166418
>Abes odyssey
>99 mudokens
>New N tasty
>300 mudokens
>Now stand up and shout "McDonalds!" to free the mudoken slaves!
>>255167071
>instead of saving two at this location you save five
>>255159901
>>255166708
>>255166746
"Post-Oddysee games" is what he posted.
Games is plural. You cannot say post oddysee games when there was only one singular oddysee games.
Can you ask yourself if you know how to read and what those words mean, because clearly you're having an issue when I specifically stated this was the issue already.
>>255168464
I hope English isn't your first language because there's no excuse for that kind of egregious misunderstanding of a simple sentence.
>>255168464
It's quite obvious he meant the Oddworld games after Oddysee.
Stop sperging out.
>>255168464
Games is plural because there is more than one game that came after Oddysee in the Oddworld series.
>>255168464
>Look at what a facetious faggot I am
>>255157321
>mad a dev that has ALWAYS catered to consoles first does it again
Were you even around before?
>>255164404
I can't even read the title of that game...
>>255169669
It says Velocity. Get your eyes checked.
>>255168464
"Post-Oddysee" is a compound adjective, hence the hyphen between "post" and "Oddysee."
>It's only the voice from the post-Oddysee games.
"It" is the subject.
"Games" is a noun.
"Post-Oddysee" is a compound adjective and describes "games."
"...Only the voice from the post-Oddysee games.," is the predicate.
>>255169712
>marketing
fuck off nobody cares about your game you fucktard
>>255167875
The IGNorant reviewer here said the game took him seven and a half hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJBEbtSZFMo
>>255168464
>Stupid Anon never posted again
>>255170035
Does he save all Mudokans?
>>255170035
Nah I'm not watching that.
From what I have seen the game looks pretty good it's just that the price might be a little much. Half the current price it would be perfect.
>>255158063
With hands clasped.
>>255170032
Dude I was just pointing out that you can't see very well. I don't care about shit about indie games, particularly ones that are copy and paste remakes of old games that only exist so people can suck their own dicks over having played a game when they were younger
>>255170375
I'm hoping it will be a PS+ title. If it gets to £10 I'll consider it.
I don't mind ads in games if they make sure the ads work in universe.
If there is a Sci-Fi game and Coke wants to advertise in the game they should work with the developers to design the Coke of the future for the setting so it looks like it would down the line.
Seeing game ads in Oddworld is dumb. They should have altered the ads to be in-world versions of those games starring Mudokons or whatever.
>>255170275
I don't think he mentioned if he did. He did say the game is easier than oddysee was overall and he was playing it on hard mode in the video so take of that what you will.
I actually never played any of the Odd world game. Is the first still good enough to play it now? I have it off GOG from a friend and wonder if it's worth it.
>>255170547
I would gladly buy it if I could afford to throw around money. Thirty dollars is double the price of most indie games though and quality or not this game is basically an indie game even if I loved the first two games. I need to wait for the PS3 version any ways.
>>255170932
Definitely.
I still play them to this day. I am yet to be convinced that the upgrade is worth it.
>>255170932
The first game is much harder than exoddus due to no quicksaving and no all of ya speech. Those two things make oddysee at least twice as hard as exoddus.
>>255171263
This right here.
Its hard to go back to oddysee after playing exodus so much.
>>255171212
>I am yet to be convinced that the upgrade is worth it.
Looks like a worthy enough remake to me. It does seem much easier though but that is likely due to the added quicksave, the better controls and scrolling screen.
>>255170604
>in-world versions of those games starring Mudokons or whatever.
I wouldn't mind this.
>>255170604
would buy / drink
>>255171504
To someone who doesn't know this might seem a bit ridiculous but it truly does make the first that much harder. Had the first had those two things it would have been just as fun to play as exoddus. Even though to me both games are still really fun.
>delayed PC version
>in game ads
>but muh stick it to the mean publishers
Enjoy supporting bullshit while pretending to be helping better the industry. I can't believe people are trying to get others to buy this because they're convinced it'll send a message.
>>255171531
I don't disagree, but it's not worth £18 that could be better spent on other things like food or half of my monthly gym membership.
>>255171263
Should I use my K+M or gamepad?
>>255171504
Well I never played any of them.
>>255171263
>no quicksaving
I'm still on my first playthrough of Oddysee because of the awful saving system. I want to save these mudokons but it won't save my progress until I clear several screens that I keep fucking up due to precision jumping. I'm was really enjoying it before though.
>>255171743
Its a good metaphor for the casualisation of games. Retro games seem fucking hard these days because we're so used to having our hands held for us.
>>255171925
you pay 32 pund a month to go to the gym?
>the adds are on the mother fucking tracker
>they didn't even turn the them into Oddworld versions of the games
Sicking
Another bunch of faggots acting like PC isn't even more lucrative than consoles these days, and pretending that piracy is this big, bad boogeyman yet somehow only on PC even though every fucking game gets released two weeks early for everyone who pirates on console. All while they complain about piracy and put ads in their games.
Yeah, they can go fuck themselves.
>>255172225
what is going on? 36
>>255172350
>adds
>sicking
underage pls go
I remember a few Gamecube games including trailers for other games, hidden away in an extras menu. Why couldn't they do that?
>>255172225
Thereabouts.
It has other facilities like an Olympic size swimming pool, tennis courts and other cool shit. I don't begrudge paying it
>>255172692
I know it is just me
>>255172643
That would be like asking people watching TV if they wanted to see the ads. You need to make them watch them as much as you're able to.
>>255172167
That's a terrible metaphor for casualization of games, since exoddus plays better.
Tighter controls and/or a quicksave system is hardly dumbing down a game, even if it does make things easier.
>>255173006
people used to look forward to new games and would be interested in hearing about them.
>>255171937
You need very precise timing on most of the game. I would use a controller since the game was likely meant to be played with one.
>>255172021
Yeah Exoddus is the better game for sure.
>>255172167
The oddworld games benefit from the system. In fact the games seem very much built for quicksaving.
>>255166418
>95% 1:1 remake
Implying you've played any of these games anon
>>255171937
Plays fine with keyboard, there's no need to use mouse. Also, all movement is grid-based (jumping has length of 3 normal steps, running jump is 5 steps etc) so it doesn't really matter what are you going to use, but you're gonna be precise anyway.
>>255174425
Alright I'll just use the K+M than. Thanks. Anything I should know before jumping in?
>>255174764
You will die. A lot. But don't let that deter you from saving all 99 mudokons.
>>255174915
I heard there's a lot of death but you just respawn a few areas back right? And I guess I need to save the guys again if I happen to fuck up.
>>255166418
>95% 1:1 remake
sure laughing lolis, i bet you guys played this game
kids these days i swear
>>255157321
Why would they fucking do this? Makes me second guess buying this game all together.
>>255170604
Agreed. It is the first thought that game to my mind.
>>255164035
Fuck off Yui Tanimura
>>255175689
Correct. Its worth saying that you probably won't get all 99 on your first try unless you explore obsessively because there are a few hidden areas.
>>255177040
Hard they super well hidden. Like would I need a guide to actually find all 99 or is it possible to find them all myself?
>>255177617
What did I type. Sorry. I meant to say "Are they super well hidden?"
>>255177617
Well, early on in the game you run past a barrel but if you stop and drop down behind it it reveals a hidden area. Its that kind of thing. The level design is quite limited so there aren't many places to explore. You shouldn't need a guide if you're patient.
>>255177617
It's right on the treshhold of needing a guide, but there's hints to pretty much every secret area, if you know what to look for
Wow, I was actually going to buy this game because the developers seemed pretty based but in-game fucking advertising? Yeah, fuck that.
>>255159901
just translate it in your language. it's weird, bro.
>>255157912
Hopefully someone patches that trash out on PC.
So, how is the remake, anyway? I find it hard to believe that this was done in the Unity engine; it looks way too good for that, imo. Granted, I prefer the moody art-style of the original, but New 'n' Tasty looks quite nice, considering.
>>255159784
Yeah they still make that garbage.
>>255178773
>>255178278
I'll do my best to find them all. I'm normally not the kind of guy that's good with hidden stuff like that but we shall see.
>>255179739
First time through you should just go for what you see mostly, don't kill yourself over missing a few mudokons
Why can't they just make easter eggs referencing other indie games as everybody does?
>>255179802
>$30 bucks
>In game ads that make no sense to the story
Nope no thanks.
>makes an anti-capitalistic game
>lives in a capitalistic country
>makes money using a capitalistic model
I don't even know how people can act this way.
>>255159362
but that was forced by the evil publisher
So, when they introduced an optional kart in MK8 the shitposting lasted for 2-weeks
How long is this going to last?Even though imho this one is actually a concern
>>255179950
Alright I'll just play normally and if I happen to find a hidden area all the better. Thanks everyone.
>>255159660
hes right though, the adds in this game arent even obnoxious, they are not for like coke or nike or anything like that, just other games that the developers wanted to support. you probably would not have noticed they existed if some guy hadnt told you.
This shit was even done in banjo tooie
>>255180508
What's he meant to do? Move to China? Kill himself?
>complaining about games advertising other games
are you really that autistic enough to get annoyed by this?
were you also annoyed when you saw jak and daxter in the ratchet and clank universe and vice versa?
>>255180803
Not going to happen because Lorne is the hero fo the anti-publisher movement that is really strong here on /v/.
>>255164404
How much dosh have these indies got to give to Lorne? Or is it a favour for industry pals?
>>255181292
indies cocksucking eachother for free
>>255181292
It's a favour to help promote other indie titles. Personally I'd prefer a system where buying Abe gives you a discount on the game they wanted advertising. It would bring it to my attention in a noninvasive way and give me more incentive to take the risk.
>>255180991
Not criticize an economic system which he is participating in and is benefiting from.
>>255181649
I don't think Sony, Microsoft or Steam would allow that.
>>255181649
>Personally I'd prefer a system where buying Abe gives you a discount on the game they wanted advertising.
Spelunky has references to super meat boy
Super meat boy has references to bit trip beat, VVVVV and others.
one thousand spikes (or knives or whatever man) has references to these too.
If you want to promote a game, it's way better to reference it and to put something related to the gameplay than to place a literal fucking ad in the stupid game.
I'm really hoping it's optional
>>255181790
I know, which is a shame because I think it would work.
>>255157321
>For a game that is staunchly anti-capitalism
This fucking guy dosent even know what that is. That was a facist system in Oddworld.
>>255164939
Luminesca, sounds like a drink, like Fresca.
Truly disgusting.
>/v/ overreacting and getting buttflustered over a minor detail that has absolutely no bearing on the gameplay
typical
>>255181879
Dust had you unlock indie characters for a small bonus HP. Personally I'm not 100% against things like that if it's just helping smaller guys. But I feel it's the way they did it that is causing the problem. I feel they are doing something nice for each other but I feel they should see how it also effects their game if they do stuff like that.
>>255179664
>I find it hard to believe that this was done in the Unity engine; it looks way too good for that
Its what happens when a real dev works on it instead of indy shitters
>Granted, I prefer the moody art-style of the original
I know what you mean, although the only time it was really glaring to me was in the Stockyards (which is much worse) but its fine besides that
>>255157321
It is immersion breaking. Ignoring the oddworld games are all day one pirates to start with.
>>255182395
Fact remains that they try to be anti capitalism. They are just making themselves look stupid by doing this.
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>>255179950
>don't kill yourself over missing a few mudokons
>First time playing Oddworld as a kid
>Get through the first area, come up to the next Mudokan counter
>Mfw seeing how much it had dropped as all the Mudokans I failed to save were murdered
>>255160804
I'll be honest, if I hadn't been told that's an actual ad for a real indie game I wouldn't have known and had thought it was just advertising for a fake product.
>>255180905
>you probably would not have noticed they existed if some guy hadnt told you.
So much of the character of Oddworld comes from the posters and small background detail. These are completely different from the rest, they stand out like sore thumbs
I would have been cool if he did what someone suggested earlier and done little Oddworld pastiches of them with Oddworld inhabitants in the lead roles
>Hi!
>Hello
>Follow me
>Okay! let me eat some Doritos (tm) first!;_;
>>255182849
Guy that is about to play it for the first time. Does it tell you how many mudokons are in an area? Like would I know that I have to save say 10 of them in one area before leaving to the next?
>>255183426
Nope. The first time when you'll know if you missed any is when you move onto the next area.
Dont get too flustered about missing any during the first playthrough
>>255161656
The game's 30$ man.
>There were people who believed Lorne Lanning still after all these years
>There were people who believed him even after he sold out to Sony and started dick riding them
>>255183723
Alright. Thanks for the help everyone.
>>255157321
Yeah, I was wondering what that was. It didn't kill the experience for me, but it did take me out of the game for a bit.
What game is it anyway?
>>255184224
how many levels of irony can one comic have?
>>255159362
>way back in Munch's Oddysee
>way back
underage b&
I really love Oddworld, it's a great series. But 30 fucking dollars for this game is way too much. That's half as much as any game coming out soon that looks good. I'd pay 15 dollars for this game.
Instead of buying this though, I bought the remake of the MASTERPIECE game of Another World which was around 7 dollars PS+, and it's such a great remake.
Also, I'm waiting for when people who are really good remake Oddysee for LBP3, granted if they make levels fucking bonkers huge, or have cross-level saving.
Ads in their game and they're still charging $30 for this fucking paint job
>>255188653
>>255188115
>wahhh I can't afford 30 bucks
You fags will cry about anything
>>255188115
i dont give a fuck about the price, its the ingame adds that piss me off
>>255188791
It's the principle. Or are you going to be saying
>WAAAAH I CAN'T AFFORD 100 BUCKS
When it eventually gets that bad
>>255188791
>>255188816
I can pay 30 bucks, it's just that I chose not to. However, I'm now contemplating getting it because I've seen a lot more about it, and the increase of 200 Mudokons is really tempting.
Other than that, it didn't really seem that different, and that was my reasoning.
Plus, the ads are really annoying to the atmosphere, but hopefully they might patch this shit with Mudokons as the characters in the very least.
>>255189469
>Plus, the ads are really annoying to the atmosphere
yeah sure if you're some autistic fuck like >>255160804 said. You are pretty much the SJW of the gaming industry. Crying about literally anything.
>>255160606
So all of the complaints are about advertisement......it's fucking oddworld, of course there is in game advertisement. In truth, I can't wait to replay oddworld from the beginning. This thread is pretty much usless. If you're not going to get the game then don't. For this thread to be approved for a complaint, play the game first....then complain after.
>>255189942
The oddworld games had god tier atmosphere.
Yes this gets in the way of it.
>>255190183
So amusing that Oddworld is the golden child of /v/ above any criticism.
Literally in game advertisement which is bad enough but it's in a staunchly anti-capitalism game.
There's no excusing that it's bullshit. Don't need to give them $30 to call them out on this.
Do you by every EA and Activision related game before criticizing it?
>>255189942
The annoying part isn't that they are there, it's that they are humans. Even then, while it is really annoying, it's not going to change my decision to buy the game. I was actually trying to separate that from my reasoning to buy the game, and was trying to link that to >>255188816, but I fucked it up.
You are right in the fact that it is crying about anything.
Please help me.
What I've learned from this topic is in-game advertising is totally cool and okay and if you criticize it you're just a baby whining about anything.
Bring on the Dew.
>>255191016
>Bring on the Dew.
Fuck you.
Dorito Pope is better.
>>255190648
He's not right at all, don't let people convince you issues like this should be marginalised. Screaming muh autism because someone dared to care about something outside of pure gameplay mechanics is the childish and unreasonable thing to do. For a game like Oddworld to have 4th wall breaking ads in it is a big deal. Aesthetics and world building are important to some games and that's fine. If he or anyone else doesn't care about it that's their business but the Oddworld games sold themselves to people based on their unique world and story as well as their gameplay.
>>255190183
>it's fucking oddworld, of course there is in game advertisement
There is satirical advertising in Oddworld dumbass, not advertising to up his friends
>>255181943
Nintendo of all people had something similar to what you described a couple months ago, granted, for a limited time, but still.
http://twotribes.com/message/super-indie-connection-sale
>Real world items advertised in a fantasy setting
This should never be a thing. Chupa Chups in Zool is just as retarded as BMW being in Mario Kart.
>real world items advertised in a game with a matching setting
Makes sense for games like Spiderman because the source materal takes place in New York.
>fantasy items advertised in a fantasy setting
Everything is to its own so this can build a better world.
>>255191250
You got to admit, he is kind of right in the fact that we are getting pissy about anything these days, I mean, it's not like we are being forced to look at it, you can easily play this game without looking at it or noticing it, and you can easily just not acknowledge it's there.
It does break the atmosphere, I'll give you that.
I'm going to side with no one and say while it's stupid and breaking, it's not shoved up your ass and you can get over it
>>255192870
>I'm going to side with no one and say while it's stupid and breaking, it's not shoved up your ass and you can get over it
Fuck off, you arent progressive for being as middle ground-y as you can manage
Of course you can get over it, that doesnt change the fact its immersion breaking and we'll bitch about it if we want
>>255192870
One of the biggest draws of Oddworld is the world and message.
In game advertising fucks with both of these and it's even worse because it was remade with this put in. It's needlessly damaging the product.
There's no reason to ignore flaws because other people are too insecure to deal with the fact that their favorite game isn't perfect. The only way we makes things better is by talking about it. We'd get nowhere if every time a negative was brought up someone came flailing their arms screaming about how unfair and nitpicky the criticism is.
>>255192870
I've played New 'N' Tasty and you better believe when I saw a massive human face pop up on the screen I fucking noticed it. It's right there next to the number of Mudokons saved/killed, you'll definitely see it. It's the principle of the matter that annoys me more than anything else. The new devs just aren't respecting the effort the team put into crafting the world of the original.
If/when you play New 'N' Tasty you'll see how shitty the whole package is for yourself.
>>255187830Munch's Oddysee was 13 years ago.
I like the game as a whole but fuck the advertising. The industrial levels always had a very grim dieselpunk theme, the ads look completely out of place. It doesn't help that half of them have humans on them.
Would it really have been so difficult to just give nods to other indie games my making versions of the advertisements with sligs and mudokons instead of humans?
When the world and atmosphere are such big parts of Oddworld I completely understand why people would pass on this and go back to the original when the dev team is blatantly breaking the rules set out by the game and ruining immersion.
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>>255193581
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoxpAP5Voco#t=45
*tips fedora
>>255194041
Well fuck me on a cracker, apparently time rules don't fuckin matter.
Skip to 0:45, that's why I originally posted the video.
>>255157912
>"us indies are all in this together"
Oddworld Inhabitants are not an indie studio. Just Add Water is however.
I don't think it'd hurt as much if there was some kind of biting irony to it or just something to make it funny and fitting.
Because the way they did it just feels like they didn't care that they were damaging the source material and just aren't taking this seriously.
You can't just forget and/or disregard the lore of the game you're updating.
