So I was digging around the net and I happened to come across some Dreamcast magazine scans from 1999. This is the very first issue from the Official Dreamcast Magazine (this is the UK edition; it also had a US edition) released Sept. 23, 1999, only 2 weeks after the North America launch on 9/9/99.
Also mods, vidya magazines ARE vidya; if anything, they're more vidya than the daily shitflinging system warring threads.
AND HERE WE GOO!
I've always loved the idea behind the dreamcast.
It's games had a specific feel to them, they were very ambitious for their time.
It's unfortunate it died so horribly.
I wonder if people in the future will say the same about the WiiU?
A system that is selling like shit but had an interesting if limited library?
>>255040470
dreamcast was far from limited though, it had some of if not THE most accurate fighting game ports, to the point where third strike and MvC are still played on the dreamcast if a cabinet isn't available in tournaments.
It also had a pretty fuckin huge lineup of blockbuster games.
the only reason it died was because sega totally forgot antipiracy measures and you could just straight up burn CDs on like 80% of dreamcasts in circulation in NA.
>>255039610
kind of lewd for a gaming magazine
Soory about the delay. Had to afk for a bit.
>>255040940
It wasn't the piracy that killed the Dreamcast. You have to remember this is 1999 Internet we're talking here, fucking dial-up mang. It would've taken ages for a 700MB to download and I feel there were more potential buyfags than piratefags on the DC but I could be wrong.
It was Sega's previous shit decisions that ruined the system.
>>255040470
That's just trying to heap current console war bullshit onto the Dreamcast. Everyone tries to call something 'the next Dreamcast" but it simply can't happen again. Cause the Dreamcast had record breaking sales at the time, before the PS2 destroyed all those records. The Dreamcast pretty much had a solid must buy game a month until it really hit its stride, and even some of the meh titles for the Dreamcast early on blew PS1 and N64 games out of the water on a technical level. It basically had everything going for it except Sega's tarnished as fuck rep and the looming PS2 launch. It didn't have the customer base to demand shelf space in a situation where Sony could just bully to tempt stores into focusing entirely on hyping the PS2 (which wasn't hard cause it also pushed DVD sales through the roof). To be "the next Dreamcast" a system would have to have a satisfying as fuck library in only two years, and then die simply because there was no shelf space to even consider continuing. Which just can't happen at all in today's market.
Also, guys. Try to keep posting to bump the thread. I can't bump it because m00t's a fag
>>255041098
All UK gaming magazines were lewd as fuck, at least at that time.
>>255041914
Nah. It was really the piracy. In the US at least, stores were ditching dreamcast stock because of it, the hardware was barely selling after a few months, the only games people bought were fucking PSO and sonic adventure/2.
It was doing fine up until the PS2 launch as >>255041991 said. most people knew it was coming so it was just a time filler, think saturn. nobody wanted to buy another saturn. And those that did either bought it for PSO or to pirate everything.
>>255041098
It was a different time, when we allowed women the freedom to be sexy.
>>255041991
I don't know why I replied in that last one.
>>255042201
>trading rex
what the FUCK sega.
>>255042378
>He never traded a dog for a console
Wow, do you even video games?
>>255042043
>>255042201
By now those kids will have forgotten that dog's name, but they'll always remember looking for some sailors.
>>255042473
>a dog
no, I traded my cat for my PS3 though.
>500 games in development
How many games did Sony say were in dev for PS4 at launch? Like 100-something right? Ha, eat shit Sony.Too bad a huge chunk of them probably got cancelled later on.
>>255042934
of those 500 games, around 380 or so were arcade ports.
high quality arcade ports, but arcade ports.
>>255041914
My cousin had a million fucking pirated DC games
>go to Blockbuster
>rent game
>copy game
>>255042934
Cancelled or moved to PS2 development... and then cancelled.
I still lament never getting that Chakan game, but it sounded a bit too ambitious for the time.
>>255042934
is that the proto-"greatness awaits..." ?
>>255043398
Sure as hell sounded like it. PS4 and DC have at least three similarities: both had massive hype, both were massive improvements over their predecessors and both had a lot of PC ports at the time, moreso than any other system.
>>255042934
Every new game that Sega put out for the early days of the Xbox and Gamecube was probably in development first for the DC. There were a lot of neat ideas that were announced for it that never became games at all though.
>you'll never have a sultry look on your face while playing DC
Just finished playing my Dreamcast a few minutes ago, one of my favorite systems ever. Wish more people gave it a chance.
And btw the sole reason the Dreamcast died was Sega was bleeding money as a company and was on the verge of bankruptcy. They didn't sell enough units in time to have a profitable market, so they bailed out. PS2 launch helped kill the Dreamcast momentum, especially in Japan where it pretty much killed the Dreamcast on the spot. Software sales were bad as well, probably due to piracy.
>33.6kbps
It's worth noting that the Murrika consoles had the 56kbps modem.
Also, that foreshadowing with that little column with Bill Gates in the last page.
And of course, no console is complete without a bunch of useless plastic called "accessories".
>>255044558
>useless plastic
dude the fucking keyboard was baller. I still use that shit on my PC with the adapter.
>Every genre is covered
Has any other system done this since DC? I feel like I'm drawing a huge blank with all the more recent console's launch library.
Worse part about owning a dreamcast is the fact that getting an arcade stick was always a pain in the ass.
I already have 2 light guns if I only had the arcade sticks then I could really enjoy it, would be nice to have a modem too since I don't have one.
Whole thread is reminding me of this
http://youtu.be/L9uThIBHBws
Hey look, it's an ad for one of my favorite vidya movies. Everything about it was so good except for the voice acting. Oh god why. STRAAANGE, ISN'T IT?
>>255042934
>But games aren't everything
Yuji Naka is so gangsta, he has Ferrari's colored after his characters.
>>255044790
31 games to be released before the year is over, holy shit all these games to play outright.
Man, I wanna be like Naka-san when I grow up. Though, I hope that I don't give birth to an equally worse fanbase like he did.
>You don't have to be a gamer to be a player.
Based.
Thanks for these, OP
>CEX
Is that the Britbong version of FUCKING GAMESTOP?
>Sonic Adventure
>Skies of Arcadia
>Soul Calibur
>Marvel vs Capcom
>NBA 2K
>NFL Blitz
>Grandia
>Best RE ports and Code Veronica
>House of the Dead
>ALL THOSE ARCADE PORTS
Fuck me
>>255046448
Thanks already? We just gettin' started nigga
That must have been an interesting time to be a Sega fan.
Saturn getting axed, dreamcast jetting in, and sega pulling the plug when they thought that they wouldn't be able to support it.
RIP in pizza Bizzare Creations ;_;7
so who here loves to play Power Stone every now and then?
I was/still is terrible at fighting games and I was terrible at this game too but I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy it.
>>255047616
Woah, how did you guess the next page?
AHHHHHHHHHH! MY EYES! THEY CAN'T HANDLE ALL THIS OBJECTIFICATION AND OPPRESSION!
Phew! Good thing they shifted to cars. Thought I was about to raped for a second.
What a good console
The first MvC was on DC? I always thought only the second one was on DC.
Also, it looks like this thread could use some bumps. So if you're still here, just...I dunno...post something
>>255047680
Everyone knows Power Stone is the one and only DC game besides that one bass fishing game.
Maybe there was a sonic game too.i am kidding
>>255042934
>500 games in development
>Valve said the same for there Steam Machines
>Half-Life was on Dreamcast
Steambox confirmed Dreamcast's cousin and Xbox's Stepbrother
>Sports
Ahh yes, sports games on the DC. Was one of the few games that didn't have any sports games from EA (mainly because EA got butthurt for some reason and pulled support). Didn't matter as Sega would make their own sports series, the 2K series, which proved to be so succesful that EA, in a fit of panic, struck a contract with the NFL to make sure they were the only ones in town to make football games (surprising that they never did the same with the NBA).
>Sega Sol (console) and Luna (handheld) will never exist
>the old console wars will never comeback (Sega vs. Nintendo vs. NEC vs. SNK vs. Atari; fuck Sony)
>>255049871
You should know SONY is the new SEGA. SONY of America cannot get along with Sony of Japan, and keeps fucking shit up (opposite of SEGA of America which was saving SEGA). The lack of ability to get along will be their downfall, only when East and West unite can they survive and truly thrive.
>>255049871
>At one point, when the Dreamcast was on its last legs, Sega approached Microsoft to make the Xbox backwards-compatible with Dreamcast games but Microsoft wouldn't include support online gameplay so the negotiations fell apart
>>255050079
>Saturn was popular with importers; PS3 was popular with weebs cuz no region lock
>Saturn and PS3 were expensive and hard to make games for
>Arrogance and pride pretty much destroyed both Sony and Sega
>The successor system was made to fix the mistakes of the previous system
You can't make this up. And people actually believe Nintendo is the new Sega...
>>255048354
>shifted
>>255048946
>>255049126
T-trigger warning!!!
>MDK 2
Holy fuck this game was insane on the DC. The PC version is so much easier because of better controls and the fact that you can select the difficulty.
>Max Payne
I was honestly not aware that Payne was getting a DC port until I read this. Half-Life on the DC even had a damn commericial for it before it got canned.
>>255050762
CARLOS!
>>255049605
EA got mad that they weren't the sole provider of sports games on the dreamcast. Nfl 2k2 I believe it was, shit all over madden at the time.
Okay guys. I'll be afk for a few minutes to get dinner so the dump will be on pause. Till then, just talk about how excellent(or not excellent)the Dreamcast was.
>>255050627
>So it cannot fail, it simply must be a big seller!
That's just sad.
>>255039610
Are those the Xbox logos reflected in her eyes?
I had this when I was 10! Nostalgic as fuck. I spent ages trying to find out who the girl on the cover is.
>>255050562
>Nintendo and Microsoft aren't rivals
>Microsoft wanted to buy Nintendo but couldn't
>Halo DS
>>255051951Yes.
>>255044082
Not to mentino sit in such a odd manner.
rip in pieces dreamcast. You were the worst console I ever owned, with the most useless bullshit addons, and the smallest library of games that were actually interesting/not ports.
>>255046452
We have CEX and GAME. We used to have Gamestation as well, which were basically a cheaper CEX, but they got bought out by the jews at GAME who sell only the most recent titles.
Look at Sega's Dreamcast output and then look at what they're doing these days. Biggest tragedy in video game history.
>>255054183
>what they're doing these days
sticking to japan and controlling around 80% of the arcade market?
yeah, such a tragedy that they're still filthy rich.
IT BEGINS AGAIN!
>>255055293
What game is that? It looks familiar.
>>255055378
All you had to do was wait 59 seconds...
>>255040470
Most DC games were horribly arcade-y and extremely simplistic.
Shen Mue is QTE garbage and the console the most overrated console of all time.
>There will never be scans of the great UK PS1 and PS2 magazines
I miss you, OPM ;_;7
Old men...running the world
>>255055464
>horribly arcade-y
Is that a terrible thing? For a system to have a ton of arcade-y games? You know previous Sega consoles were mostly known for their arcade-y games right? You know Sega MAKES arcade games games, right?
>>255055805
>For a system to have a ton of arcade-y games?
Yes.
Because there's more to most genres than just simplistic gameplay.
It's like all those Nascar and whatnot racing arcades at the... arcades, cinemas or wherever they're set up. Those are fun for maybe an hour, but they can't compete with stuff like Gran Turismo, Colin McRae Rally and similar games.
That's the fate the DC had in basically every genre. Bunch of arcade shit and nothing more.
We're talking about the DC here, I'm not going to write down how much I like or dislike Sega's other consoles. Or games, for that matter.
4chins is trying to tell me on of my images has an embedded file (which it doesn't), so I had to skip a page. Just might skip this page (and this whole section) because "not vidya"
>>255056275
So what you're complaining about is the lack of presence of other genres? Understandable, I guess. For me, I grew up playing these kind of games (and still do from time to time) so having a system built around that was right up my alley. I can see someone being more accustomed to say, RPGs, not liking the Dreamcast.
AW SHIT NIGGAS TIME FOR SOME REVIEWS
>tfw hanging out at friends house playing Power Stone and Soul Calibur/Marvel vs Capcom tournaments all night long
miss it so much
Damn, that CGI looks like garbage.
>>255057862
I can't tell what direction his right hand is facing.
>>255043771
How is the PS4 a massive improvement over the PS3? Only advantage I can think of is the friendlier architecture.
The amazing thing about these magazines is that they actually put 1/10 or 2/10 scores on some games.
These scores were actually fucking used correctly back then.
>>255039610
Out of curiosity, where did you find those scans, and in that quality as well?
>>255057940
That's what I meant. The games is a whole other story but it's clear that Sony wanted to make dev'ing for the PS4 as painless as possible.
>>255058082
I did a google search for 'Dreamcast magazine' one day out of curiosity and found some scans on the Internet Archive. It does suck that these mag scans are so rare.
>mfw they start talking about the VA and lip-synching
TAILS LOOK OUT! WAHHOSHDOSUFHASF
>Who is the game aimed at?
That part made me start laughing especially the "more mature audience" part.
>9/10
Confirmed for paid review
>>255058496
>one day all games will look this good
>>255058496
>>255059116
Is the DX version the only one with the lipsynch issues, or did the original version have perfect lipsynch? Because even in 2000 that was some shitty lipsynch.
>>255044790
>Leading console systems don't include the Saturn
can you please upload a rar of these im on mobile
A Criterion game that doesn't involve excessive amounts of destruction? Insanity, I say.
>>255059378
Considering the review actually brings up lip synching problems in SA, I'd say both version had shitty lip synching.
>>255059545
The Saturn was kill by 1999 and no one gave any fucks about it while is was alive.
>>255059684
I'll try to. I didn't even realize how many pages were in this mag. It's like 132 pages. Shit's wayyyy too much. I'll probably stop soon.
Okay folks, there's a bunch of pages here and I want to get back to my vidya. So I'm ending the dump
As requested, here's a .rar of the whole issue: https://mega.co.nz/#!V1E30b4I!Dy1S86T8GMZ4JEasFDf_5yp7VCpkiWdiOtkZsTYOFIE
Scanman out!I also have the US edition of this. Maybe I'll dump it some other time.
I used to have ALL of them but my mother threw them away somewhere in 2004.
I was pretty pissed.
I also had all the demo CDs as well.
>>255059005
>Sonic runs with his arms flapping behind him, like a dork
They know
>>255059961
Shame, the Saturn had a great library, except half of it stayed in Japan
>>255041098
It may sound like fantasy but back in the 90s women were allowed to be sexy without muh mysogyny smash the patriarchy backlash from armchair internet feminists.
>>255060478
>>255060769
I really wish Capcom revisited Power Stone
Part 1 was great,2 was even better and like every other game on the Dreamcast,we never got a proper trilogyAlso Rouge was one of the first vidya faps and still a top tier fap to this day
I don't want to sound like some fucking 90s kid or anything.
But this magazine. The photography, the fashion, the lighting, the colours.. IT'S SO LATE 90S.. FUCK.
>>255061608
Is there even any r34 of Power Stone? After all these years, I haven't seen not a single pic.
>>255062225
just enough to satisfy you anon,thankfully it's mostly Rouge too
>>255060769
thanks for uploading the rar
>>255061732
as someone who owned every volume, yes, yes it was
i was
>>255060794
i still miss my collection dearly, at least i still have all my dreamcast stuff neatly packed and sealed, 2 dreamcasts, one still in its box, the other used secondhand
still no decent DC emulation
man, reading these I forgot how edgy the 90s were
>>255044814
>1999
>Starts off with 'We Have Explosive'
But that's 1996, right? I only remember that because of Wipeout XL (like everyone else).
>>255062594
Man, the UK in the late 90s.. Britpop ended, that awkward transition in the 00s, film camera quality was becoming more bright..
It's just crazy to look back on. Those old Playstation magazines or N64 magazines too spark the same feeling. Video games were marketed so differently back then, with the whole demo disc thing and such.
My first witnessing to the Dreamcast was going into Virgin and seeing one out and ready to play. I wanted one so much, but being a poorfag sucks. Sega definitely hit the nail on the head with the marketing. It was the trendy console to have. The controller looked weird with the little cartridge thing and that was intriguing.I just wish I was young again. ;_;
>>255062674
I really wish you fags that describe everything as "edgy" would just shut the fuck up.
>>255041991
>Everyone tries to call something 'the next Dreamcast"
Here a little hint. Sony is dancing on the Dreamcast's corpse.
>>255064032
I'm describing the writing in this as edgy. Not everything.
>>255044790
> Making Games Easy
Was Dreamcast development really that easy? I wonder why other consoles didn't follow a similar path into the future.
>>255064031
Remember PS Demo discs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEg48a3Rt_U
Those were pretty fucking baller
I remember watching the Gex 2:Enter the Gecko trailer over and over and saving up money to buy it.It was great back then but holy shit is it terrible today
>>255064583
No lately, in almost every thread there is someone descrfibing something as edgy
>>255064898
Man.. I just wonder if I'm too old to love this current gen in the same way I did. Nostalgia blurs things I guess.
This was our demo disc which came with the ps1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-SwQr1Xsg9E
I loved Dreamcast. I need to get another. Is it hard to find a working one? Where to get spare parts when the CD drive inevitably fails?
>>255046113
>>255064876
Not certain why. Microsoft and the Xbox brand seem to be the only console where devs never had problems with developing for it for whatever reason. Even with the Xbone, I haven't heard anyone complaining about the difficulty of making games for it.
>>255060769
Thanks!
>>255042201
As a dog lover this makes me legit mad as fuck anyone would even joke about this.
Thought this fit the thread
http://www.emuparadise.me/TV-Shows/Icons_Season_03_Episode_02_-_Sega_Dreamcast/6024
Its a link to the dreamcast episode of the old TechTV/G4 show "Icons"
Also if you're interested theres more episodes here
http://www.emuparadise.me/TV-Shows
>>255065841
Because software. Making games with the directx api is easy.
So what made Bleem! possible?
Were the Dreamcast and PS1 similar in some way?
Its impressive what it was able to do with MGS, Tekken 3 and GT2
>>255068323
CD-Rs? I don't know.
I just remember Bleem! being incredibly frustrating to use. Couldn't play Activision games because their models would be all fucked, couldn't play many games post-1998. Bad memories.
>>255068323
>So what made Bleem! possible?
Windows CE
>>255040470
Blame Japan, they didn't support the Dreamcast at all, Segat mite of been able to keep it afloat afloat had it been more popular in Asia.
>>255068836
Oh fuck I forgot all about that. Didn't only like 3 commercial games make use of it?
I know that KISS FPS, some train game, and I think Quake or Unreal might have
>>255039610
Who is this semen demon?
>1999
>All dat optimism
>All dat excitement for the future
>Gaming is still in it's heydey with no AAA/DRM/DLC anti consumer practices
I like to imagine there is an alternate future where Dreamcast won and 9/11 never happened and all is well with the universe.
>>255069149
But Japan put out first party games until 2004 and sold refurbed systems till like 2007
>>255048946
MvC1 wasn't only on the DC, but it included a 2v2 mode so 4 players could play together (using standard tag in rules of course).
>>255071192
That is fucking awesome
>>255071320
It was a fun idea, but honestly really odd to play as you had to coordinate your tag ins or end up screwing your partner hard. Overall it was a novelty feature, but appreciated just for the experience of trying it out a few times.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pr9myufAI0
>>255072438
Didn't know Much's Odyssey was originally in development for the PS2
i don't want this thread to die
