Which is better /v/ and why?
>Blue also counts in the Red choice.
Earthbound.
Neither, they're both shit by today's standards.
/thread
>>254335245
Earthbound, this is far too easy.Gold/Silver would have given it a run for its money
Earthbound
Gen 1 didn't have that much to offer
Gen 2, however...
>MUH GEN WUN
>MUH GEN 3
>MUH
>>254335339
And Crystal?
>>254335318
This. They're both overrated as shit.
Pokemon wins simply for the greater freedom and less irritating bullshit.
>>254335438
I still think Earthbound is rated just fine. That game stays with you man.
>>254335439
>less irritating bullshit
bullshit, Pokemon had just as much frustrating shit that "people in the know" managed to avoid. Unless you explore you're not going to get FLASH or FLY and without those the game becomes one hell of a chore.
>>254335649
Still better than Earthbound's fucked inventory system.
>>254335649
So you play an RPG but don't explore? You're doing it wrong.
Also Fly was right there, and it's not like you actually needed Flash
Sorry to break your patrician tastes, but to me the memories of battling/trading Pokémon with my friends are just too great to be beaten by any single-player rpg from that time.
>>254335371
You could even transfer Pokémon from Red/Blue/Yellow to Gold/Silver/Crystal. Don't pretend one didn't complement the other.
Mother 3 > Crystal > Earthbound > Red
>>254335649
>fly
>fast traveling in a game with a joined map and several shortcuts
no wonder the gen of today were so pissy at the Elite Four,
>>254335786
We're talking about ONE game, not TWO
>>254335931
And i gave my reasons in the same post.
>>254335892
>Using Crystal
>Ignoring Yellow
It's like you didn't love Pikachu.
I prefer the adventure style of Earthbound then the 'collect pokermen to be da best' thing.
>>254335245
EB. better music, story, jokes, gfx style, and wtf moments.
>>254336339
Pikachu a shit
They're both shitty in their own ways. One has only one save slot and the other has the worst inventory system of all time.
>>254336523
how was the inventory system that bad?
If your shit got too full you called up the storage people and got them to pick up some items for you that you didn't need.
>>254336646
The term is "needlessly tedious as fuck".
Easily Pokemon.
Earthbound is bad.
>>254337042
calling the phone for someone to take my stuff didn't ruin the experience for me. I only had to do it I think twice in the whole game.
They are both amazing
Earthbound > Gen 1
Gen 2, 3 4 or 5 > Earthbound
people are acting as if the first Pokemon had a good inventory system, it was almost as bad as Earthbound
>>254337973
Agreed, but with the addition of Mother 3 above all of these.
>>254336389
nigga please Pokémon is one of the kings of music
You're right about everything else though, especially the jokes and writing, pokémon really needs better writing.
But Gen 1 is broken as fuck. Almost nothing really works as it should. How people feel it was a good game is still shocking. Now Gen 2 I can understand. Since they fixed what was so fucking horrible broken.
Earthbound, obviously
maybe gen 3 is better than it though
obviously earthbound
Clearly Earthbound
earthbound is a marvelous game with really powerful themes that are reflected in its design, aesthetics, writing, and characters flawlessly.
pokemon *any is a timesink rpg for on the play go
>>254335245
One series sold over 30 million copies while the other sold?
Historically Pokemon Red/Blue aren't just a success but they are two of vidya's most prized possessions. Especially in regards to the RPG genre. Since they are still the best selling RPG's to date and very few other RPG's have sold even half that.
And besidesit's gen fucking one faggots.Of course it rapes.
>>254338104
pokemon music is pathetic.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOWRNLaCMJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF_MwNdXN1o
>>254338717
>sales make it a better game
>>254338820
If it was bad, people wouldn't buy it.
>>254338150
the brokenness of pokemon doesn't really damage the game significantly. It's still an effective game that delivers itself well enough. they are flaws, and they were fortunately fixed, but they don't ruin the game at all. Competitive pokemon players seem to live in a vacuum where any small element of pokemon is off the entire game is ruined.
they're well made games. but earthbound is a far better game, no doubt.
>>254337042
the only time it got really tedious was when you clear out Jeffs inventory to fit all the bottle rockets you possibly can in.
>>254338884
I never said it was bad, but Earthbound is much better, so are a few other pokemon gens
>>254338820
I never specifically stated that. I did however say that pokemon R/B are historically important games for all of vidya. Just like Super Mario Brothers was. Nintendo in fact would arguably be in a much worst position had it not been for R/B. So take your cancerous hatred elsewhere faggot. Do you see Mario fans shit on Super Mario Bros all the time like you modern pokeautists do? No because they respect the older games in their favorite series. Like most fanbases do.
>>254336339
Pikachu is shit, and Yellow is the worst game in the worst generation.
>>254339238
but the older mario games are better, unlike pokemon, nobody is shitting on anything
>>254339531
Well then MGS1 or any other series that has been great in /v/'s eyes. Only pokeshits on this board get this upset at anyone proclaiming their love for gen1. Which my post wasn't even really about.
Playing Earthbound for the first time thanks to Club Nintendo, and I'm a few hours in. While it's not really fair to judge a game that I haven't finished, at this point I would say Pokemon.
Earthbound, thus far, comes across as a fun and quirky game bogged down by a lot of bad gameplay choices on the part of the developer that make a lot of simple tasks feel extremely tedious. The inventory system is the worst offender, as I don't like to play games with guides and the game shoves far too many nonconsumable items in your face that you're never sure if you'll need again or not. This makes me afraid to store them in fear of having to go ALL the way back to retrieve them in order to progress, or downright nervous that I'll miss an important call on the cellphone, etc.
This problem is amplified by the fact that certain enemies hit pretty damn hard even if you completely grind out the area before them, and I rarely have enough healing to go around.
It"s a good game, and I'm liking it, but I feel like Pokemon was more streamlined and simple. In the case of a JRPG in that vein, I'd say that helps Pokemon get an edge over EB despite having it's own problems.
Also, running away from battles is god damn worthless in EB. Don't even know why they have that feature.
>>254339748
this is why /vp/ was created as the first containment board
>>254339826
as far as I remember, you can't store the cell phone anyway. I'd just store the items because you're never too far away from a phone anyway
>>254339748
That's because MGS1 is a good game, while Pokemon Gen 1 is complete shit. It's not that hard to understand, moron.
Eartbound
I havent played either but Earthbound has an amazing soundtrack
>>254339826
you really haven't picked up on the extremely obvious theming that excels the game to such great heights??
>>254339826
if you mean that pokemon is more kids friendly, yeah
>>254340006
And as I said, only you degenerate manchildren autistic shit sacks go to these lengths to dis the first game in your favorite series that started it all. I really think it's just a sing of severe ass pain coming from you guys. Your just pissed that pokemon will never be as big as it was at the prime of it's popularity which was gen1 to early gen2. Before retarded edgy fags like you likely jumped to yugioh before jumping back on the pokemon bandwagon when that yugayoh shit finally died. God that yugioh was so trash.
Easily PokemonI haven't played Earthbound
>>254335245
Earthbound.
Gen 1 games were broken as shit.
>>254338150
You're a tourney fag, aren't you?
>>254338802
Don't forget
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3nYwTSkr0Q
>>254339826 Samefriend here. Another good example of what I'm talking about is that god damn Mushroom status effect. Just an example of another minor little quirk of many that makes Earthbound slightly annoying to play. A status that must be removed via NPC, even giving you a reward to compensate might seem fair enough at first. However, why the flying fuck would they make something that crippling into a MANDATORY chore. Your controls are perma fucked, you can't ride the bike, and you have to drop everything to go find a doctor NPC. It's obnoxious, and should have been a fun optional gag instead of a tedious chore that breaks the game's pace.
>>254340558
Nigger they had cool as shit pokemon that you could make a team with and challenge the elite four. What the fuck else do you need?
The pokemon today are shite
>>254340812
>The pokemon today are shite
Earthbound still holds up pretty well by modern standards.
>>254340812
>>254339826
You do know you can select the Help! on the item and see what each item does right?
>>254341046
>Togetic watching a Doduo take a shit
>>254340919
because of its very powerful theming
>>254340812
Did you actually play Gen V? That's the only one so far without entirely useless Pokemon and we both know that Gen 1 was full of them.
>>254339826
>Also, running away from battles is god damn worthless in EB. Don't even know why they have that feature.
You can eat skip sandwiches (sell them at most drugstores) and it makes you run faster and easier to avoid enemies. also some more powerful enemies are slower making it easier to avoid.
>>254341058
Yeah, and more often than not it's incredibly vauge.
See the Teddy Bear.
>>254341046
autism
You level up your pokes and brute force your way through the elite four. That's how the game is meant to be played, it's for 8 year olds
The second gamefreak started pandering to manchildren is the second it went to shit
>>254341225
Shame every single Gen V pokemon looks like shite.
>>254341225
I'm playing it right now and it's not bad. Some decent pokemon designs here, though the legendaries are complete ass
>>254340812
I always wonder if people like you either never really played Pokemon, have forgotten what it was actually like or are just a bit dim. Same with people who literally say all 151 Pokemon were great.
I knew gen 1 was broken WHEN I was a kid, and so did all of my friends. It was well known even on the playground that the game was incredibly buggy and just generally imbalanced. Broken ghosts, imbalanced as shit types, crits, etc. Still enjoyed it, of course, but G/S/C were a breath of fresh air, mechanically.
>>254341446
They're much better than Gen4 or Gen3
>>254341446
Though there are some cases that you can make an argument with, I still disagree with that sentiment.
>>254341340
If it's vague it has no importance to continue the plot. The teddy bear is simply a battle technique to distract the enemies by them hitting the teddy instead of your team. If it's something you really do need the game will make it clear.
>>254341046
>>254341225
Do you tourney fags have blindfolds on or some shit? No one back then was playing pokemon super competitively. Most people in fact preferred to play the single player.
You fags come in all the time making this moot point argument. It's fucking irrelevant you dumb asses. It's okay to enjoy gen1 for it's sp game.
>>254341649
Disagree, by even then it's like saying shit is better than diarrhea
>>254335318
>>254335438
>ITT: Sony fanboys who never played the games and are trying to take our fun away
Anyway, Earthbound is the better game because Pokemon gen 1 is too damn slow paced. I have to play it on an emulator at 300% speed to even enjoy it.
>>254335245
Red.Because muh childhood
>>254341719
So because you played casually, you assume everyone played casually? Because that's just wrong. It wasn't as popular as it was now but there were local competitive scenes. The years when Tauros, Mewtwo, and Electrode ruled the Metagame.
>>254341430
Jesus this THIS
You manchildren and your god damned tourney fagging. In the words of Y2J:
Would you please shut the hell up?
>>254342021
Missingno rules the metagame
>>254341834
I'm a PCfag and I played Earthbound a few years ago. The gameplay just wasn't very good.
Pokemon is inherently uncompetitive because you have to run around a tower of autism for 500 hours before you're allowed to play the game.
You wanna know a real, proper competitive pokemon game? The pokemon trading card game, mother fucker. No stupid "run around a tower", just skill and logic. No fucking gimmicks.
>>254342225
Fucking this. The card game was the shit. Really straight forward and super fun.
>>254335418
no dupe cheat
>>254342187
Well the combat isn't that challenging but the exploring the world is fun and the atmosphere is one of the best I can think of.
>>254342104
What tier would Missingno have been?
>>254342412
It's not that it isn't challenging, it also isn't fun. If I wanted exploration and atmosphere I'd play Yume Nikki.
>>254342485
Missingno is the most OP character in anything ever
>>254341806
>Hating Gen IV and III's Pokemon
Absolute Plebeian.
>>254342517
So you're in to weeaboo shit. No wonder you don't like it. You have no standards.
>>254338563
Earthbound's cast are deep and multi-layered characters that compellingly contextualize the rest of the experience; making it truly memorable.
Gotta pretend you are an english major without actually saying something wortwhile, huh bruh?
>>254342021
>there were local competitive scenes
Literally everyone at my school was more concerned with trading and simply enjoying the game for what it was. Eventually people started to really love collecting the cards. Then eventually sometime in middle school most people just didn't give a fuck about pokemon somewhere around gen2. I remember a few people (myself included) did buy and play gen3 but at that point it was more just as a nice little nostalgia play for almost everyone I knew who played it up until that point.
For some damn reason somehow somewhere, Nintendo as one anon said started to heavily pander to you few retards that just started getting super pokemon obsessed and eventually started playing more of it's vs then ever. No one I knew seriously cared that much. Now all what I hear from the new pokemon is muh balance, muh competitiveness, muh precious new gen that improves that last shitty gen.
I have nothing more to say to you neckbeards. Fucking grow up and understand it's okay for people to like the older games. No one is bashing your precious tourney fagging. It's always you fags that bring the shit up and it's annoying. So no most people weren't obnoxiously tourney fagging with pokemon like they do now.
Dunno about later Pokemon games, but red/blue are just grinding simulator 1999
>>254335245
pokemon, earthbound a shit
>>254342615
>in to
>calling yume nikki weeaboo
Dude, what the fuck are you on? Is your post a joke?
>>254342620
the characters aren't deep and the themes are really obvious and present throughout everything in the game
that's why it's good you dumbass
gotta shitpost like a faggot, where's your image macro you non-contributing zero
Pokemon, Earthbound has that stupid behind the characters thing that irritates me.
>>254342225
>>254342324
This may have been the case before they went full retard with these modern cards. Have you guys seen some of that shit? 200 damage attacks, multiple energy card types needed, 300 HP, etc. Shit got ridiculous as fuck.
>>254342654
Actually you can get through the whole game pretty quickly then just use the Missingno glitch to get your team to whatever levels you want them to be.
At that point in the game it really opens up and you can have a maxed out team of pretty much whatever pokemon you want.
>>254342650
The point of the game was the battle and trade with your friends and rivals. Of course they're going to make the competitive aspect a big thing in later games given how popular it got. You strike me as that kid who wanted to win with his bros but got crushed by everyone else at school from how hard you're whining about this.
>a game with an actual story and characters
>bug-catching simulator
GEE I DUNNO
For real though, I love both, but this isn't even a contest.
>>254342225
>>254342324
Card games where you have to collect in order to win are trash by definition.
>>254342804
I only play pokemon TCG 2 on the emulator. Nobody that I know still plays the card game. I only know one guy who plays card games, he plays Yu-Gi-Oh and Magic competitively but he can't stand pokemon TCG for whatever reason.
>>254342732
The only thing that actually matters is gameplay, you fucking faggot. I was making fun of you with the first sentence.
>>254342945
>>a game with an actual story and characters
hurr I play games for the story
Kill yourself or start reading
>>254342945
>bug-catching simulator
You DO know the bug catching thing was a myth created by Nintendo, right? They think gameplay first, lore second.
And Earthbound doesn't have a very good story and its characters are blank.
>first person turn based gameplay
disgusting
>>254342964
>Card games where you have to collect in order to win are trash by definition.
I'd rather spend $100 once than spend $40 or however much it is on pokemon X, THEN have to waste 500 hours before I'm allowed to play the game.
>>254342654
Every game has gotten worst anon. Supposedly gen six fixes some of the grind but it started to get ridiculously cancerous with the IV's and EV's. It's so bad that faggots actually sell pokemon like it's some sort of black market shit. Also a lot of faggots use hacks to gain competitive advantages.
You people thought souls fans were bad? Nobody has shit on tourney fagging manchildren and their pokemon.
>>254342945
Go read a book.
>>254338717
>sales
I love Pokemon, but you do realise Earthbound was never released outside of the US and Japan right?
Pokemon was sold the world over, Earthbound was sold in two countries.Which reminds me, I have my first free £5 credit on the WiiU, time to try Earthbound for the first time.
>>254343043
I can tell you irrelevant shitposter, and the only thing that matters is the gameplay??? as if, maybe get some fucking taste and realize games are the sum of their parts not just one aspect
>he plays doom for the game play and not for the level design, the mechanics, the visuals, the sound, the music
you insipid nigger you probably don't even realize how all of these things work together, and when you remove one you have a shell of what's left you fucking faghat
get some perspective and learn a thing or two about game design, retard
>>254342654
Di you ever play G/S/C? The level scaling is so fucked, it's basically Ultimate Grinding Simulator 2000 and Ultimate Grinding simulator 2001: Hardcore Edition.
>>254341430
>>254342092
>making a shallow game more complex is now considered a bad thing
>>254342225
The original Pokémon TCG was full of cookie cutter decks which all played the same and anti-meta decks specifically to counter the cookie cutters.
>>254343181
make screencap threads of your experience through the game when you get it pls. I'm bored
They both have simplistic gameplay that has been vastly improved upon by it's predecessors. They both excel greatly due to non-game stuff. Earthbound excels much more and is one of the most mature games there is, so I guess that.
You should've done Mother 3 vs. R/S or even B/W, OP. That would've been a much better discussion.
>>254343193
>doom for the game play and not for the level design, the mechanics
Are you an imbecile?
>>254342912
And you fags imply that the vs was some huge thing like it is now. The battling wasn't anywhere near what it is now and to even whine about it like YOU did is stupid. Just get over it. Gen1's battling wasn't even half as important to the game as it is now thanks to you neckbeards. It never needed to be any ways. Nintendo/Gamefreak were trying to sell kids a new game idea that was never really tried before.
I think we can all agree that these games are similar in some ways. But if you look at each element of the gameplay and compare them side by side, Earthbound is better in every way.
Pokemon is way too fucking slow, even if you put all the text speeds on max, etc. Pokemon is also significantly easier. Having not played Pokemon Red or Earthbound in a few years, I know for a fact that I could play through Pokemon Red without losing a single time. But in Earthbound it's perfectly possible to die. Earthbound also has a cooler world to explore, better secrets, better characters / story, etc.
Just about the only advantage pokemon has over Earthbound is better team customization.
>>254343417
of course not, I actually know what I'm talking about and realize the importance of everything in games.
level design and mechanics are part of what make up game play, there's also sound, visuals, music, and everything else.
>>254338884
A lot of that was the price of the game being so high and the ad campaign; 'this game stinks!'
>>254343267
So you complain that the decks are too cookie cutter but then you complain that there are ways of countering them. Also how do you counter the anti-meta decks? Oh yeah by making a new kind of deck.
In other words, there were a shitload of options.
>>254343493
Pretty much this. Places in Earthbound like Winters were such a relaxing place to walk around and everything kept me so fascinated.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUreW9Tzc8E
>>254343805
And look at things like Moonside. You'll never see something that cool in another game.
>>254343193
>shitposter
Good argument. Everyone who disagrees with you is a shitposter
>he plays doom for the game play and not for the level design, the mechanics.
This belongs to the aspect that is called "gameplay".Gameplay is how the game plays (durr).
>you probably don't even realize how all of these things work together
A game whose only selling point is gameplay can still be good, a game whose only selling point is the story will always be a wannabe movie.
>get some perspective and learn a thing or two about game design, retard
Yeah, I'm sure you know a lot about game design. Would you please enlight us?
>>254343918
>Good argument. Everyone who disagrees with you is a shitposter
when you have irrelevant, shitty contributions you're a shitposter
>This belongs to the aspect that is called "gameplay".Gameplay is how the game plays (durr).
everything about a game defines how it plays genius
>A game whose only selling point is gameplay can still be good, a game whose only selling point is the story will always be a wannabe movie.
tetris is great but there's also great music, distinctive visuals (very important to the game play!!! GENIUS).
>Yeah, I'm sure you know a lot about game design. Would you please enlight us?
sure attend my courses at digipen
>>254341719
>fags
>shit
>fucking irrelevant
>dumb asses
Either quality bait a shame.
>>254343072
Well you certainly don't play Earthbound for the gameplay.
>>254344048
>sure attend my courses at digipen
Not him but in case you're not kidding, you have the wrong idea of gameplay. Gameplay specifically refers to the physics / mechanics of the game, I.E. the speed of a character, how high they can jump, their attack power, etc.
What you're referring to is the overall quality of the game. By your logic, if someone told me that the gameplay is bad in a certain game, I must also assume that it has a bad soundtrack, and a bad story.
Also, I didn't read the whole conversation but you seem to be implying that said the music in either pokemon or earthbound wasn't good, which is completely false.
>>254343442
>Never tried before
It's portable Shin Megami Tensei for kids.
If earthbound was so good, why isn't there an earthbound 2?
>>254344048
Your orthography and syntax are fucking horrible, which leads me to the belief that I'm arguing with some kid, or that this is some poor bait. Remind me, why am I even giving attention to you?
>>254335245
Pokemon isn't an RPG, it's a sim.
>>254344345
game play is a meaningless term that I've been actively trying to debunk because of how poorly it encapsulates anything specific about criticism of games.
the conversation was about how earthbound has bad game play (by which I assume he meant combat and moving around the world??) when the point is that combat is serviceable in earthbound and moving around the world feels appropriate and good enough and there are other more important things in earthbound
>>254343862
What was so cool about Moonside? I never understood the appeal of it and yet it's put on a pedestal as "best level of all time"
>>254344523
read content not context you fucking faggot.
I wanna play pokemon now coz of this thread.
Is there a 3DS emulator yet?
>>254335245
Earthbound is an ok game, but DQ is better. I like the GBA remakes of red and blue better, but if you never played a pokemon game Red is better than EarthBound.
>>254335245
Earthbound. Pokemon is one of the most overrated games in history if not the most, especially Gen 1. Earthbound is also overrated but at least that's a great game.
>>254344723
Don't expect to be taken seriously if you can't write in a bare minimum acceptable english.
>>254344609
objectively speaking the best level of all time is the horde of zendar, but moonside is a great part of earthbound that really focuses on the humor of it all. It plays with both the themes of the game, hostility and friendliness quite well by putting it all in a weird perspective of bizarre dialog and geometry.
it's a really weird part of the game, and to a lot of people (people who never played the game) what makes the game special is the quirkiness and the weird bits, which is why it might stand out
but for me the very end of the game is the best part.
>>254345057
Oh no, a walking talking retard who has no contributions to make to a thread won't take me seriously. god forbid.
>>254345296
>writes like a twelve year-old
>calls others retards
>>254345796
>still thinks this matters
>>254345296
>. god forbid [sic!]
*God forbid.
>>254345862
Of course you wouldn't know why orthography matters - you're still in sixth grade.
>>254346262
whatever makes you happy ;) if you wanna bring me down to ur grade thats cool
but i no that i live on my own and work 4 a living....if u tink it matters how i typ then fine....i will type this way 4 u <3
>>254343072
>>254343081
>>254343151
Y'all niggas are stupid.
Is this even a question? Earthbound.
>>254340476
play it
>>254346507
>4 u
BANE?Seems like most post hit you pretty hard.
>>254335245
I love both, but Gen 1 doesn't hold up that well these days. Thank God for FireRed and LeafGreen. Still, when it gets right down to it, I think EarthBound is the superior game.
>>254335245
Pokémon. Earthbound is basically, Monster Quest with Peanuts characters. Fans of Earthbound try to be special snowflakes among nintendo fans, by liking a nintendo game which is too obscure to be popular, but not too obscure to be completely unknown.
>>254346902
I just wish it wasn't so hard to talk about video games with shitposting ruining it like it is right now. This is pathetic.
>>254335245
Earthbound. It's at least aged well.
>>254347151
Orthography is important, anon. Learn your shit.
>>254347357
It's not important, and you're the only one stressing it instead of actually looking at the content of the posts. I'm not giving a presentation, I'm talking with people.
You learn your shit and start talking about fucking video games. Now if you want to try re-engaging in the conversation we were having about game play and why it's a retarded term to use at all, you're welcome to. Or you can continue to run around in circles and act like the way I say what I say matters, when it is entirely irrelevant and my points are entirely clear.
you insipid faggot.
>>254347550
I don't give a shit about your take on game design, though. Let's just end this conversation here, without me calling you out on why gameplay isn't a "meaningless term". I have better things to do, like playing Super Metroid for the first time.
>>254347357
if this is your presentation of why orthography is important:
>>254346902
>>254346262
>>254345796
It's no wonder why you've failed to engage anyone in this thread meaningfully and have only danced around actually discussing your perspective on why the game play in earthbound is shit. You can't prove a fucking thing and it's obvious you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. You're a waste of bandwidth and cpu cycles on 4chan, and on the internet as a whole.
>>254347939
leave you little bitch, you can't even back up what you say.
I like how no one is mentioning the prime reason why earthbound is much better, the random encounters are like chrono trigger, you can avoid them. the main villian piggy is god damn clever and the final boss, music, and overall themes stay with you including the enemies. combat is great once you level up and get good equips.
>>254347939
>hasn't even played super metroid
>calls others sixth graders
muh orthography
>>254342187
>not very good
>played through Onett only
I was blind like you at one point anon. If you get farther through the game you'll see the light.
>>254335318
>>254335438
Hello neo-/v/
>>254341834
>Pokemon gen 1 is too damn slow paced
Pokemon (any gen) is too damn slow paced and easy.
FTFY
>>254348425
the rolling hp system is really fun too, and creates a really interesting dynamic of subverting hp loss with healing or finishing battle. I think mother 3 really nailed rolling hp by slowing down the ticker tho.
I do love how every place is extremely hostile to you until you banish giygas' influence from it, then everyone is friendly and sweet to you. That's one of the best things about the game, how there's always hints of what there was before Giygas' influence, then after you clean up eagleland, you get to the cliff that time forgot and that wicked haunting horn track plays. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXLwI9uAUws
To me, the distant brass in the song creates this really distinct division of where you're about to head to. The least friendly and coldest place in the game. Where there's no music. It's just howling and ambiance, it's terrifying. Everything is hostile, everything warm is replaced with cold rock, steel, and even your bodies are replaced with clanking cheese-grater metal bodies. The only thing that sticks out is Ness' hat. It's just great.
Then even the fleshy interior of Giygas' joint is still stark and cold, alienating and hostile, everything about it is dangerous.
What really kicks me in the ass is when you're fighting the big fetus himself and the only way to kill him is by praying. I seriously hope anyone who hasn't played the game puts in their name when they are asked to. That shit hits hard. Hit me even more so, because I played it on a CRT and saw my reflection.
Earthbound versus any Pokemon game, Earthbound wins by default.
Earthbound versus any handheld game, Earthbound wins by default.
Console game versus any handheld game, console game wins by default.
Earthbound by far. It's even better thanMother 3.
>>254335438
its kinda sad that this is becoming a more and more present opinion around here
>>254349359
I dunno, bravely default was the best final fantasy since ff9
>>254349359
Kirby's Pinball Land curbstomps Earthbound.
>>254348997
>watching the credits and seeing the entire cast of Earthbound
>watching the second credits with all the actual designers whilst looking at your photos
>seeing your name at the end of the credits
I don't think any game will come close, it's a better experience than Mother 3 even though technically Mother 3 has the better story and gameplay.
>>254350591
I kinda what they were thinking as far as visuals for giygas goes. Like, most every enemy in the game there's a clear influence in its design buy giygas is at best a tortured face swirling/being torn into darkness
at worst it's a repeating pattern of a fetus being stretched and injected with static imagery
*worst is not indictive of quality but rather of its appearance
really out there.
