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ITT: What were they thinking
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no? okay...
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>>320684028
>Okay Team, let's make a Batman game!
>but instead of having it take place in Gotham city or even have Batman fight crime at night, let's move Batman to Puerto Rico in broad day light!
>oh and let's make him bald. And lastly, make the story exactly like another of our superhero franchises only 1000x more banal and unmemorable.

Fuck this game and fuck whoever defends it as a good Max Payne game. A good Max Payne game is more than just PEW PEW WITH ORGASMIC PHYSICS
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Game was fun. So were the first two. Sorry that you didn't get the remake of MP2 that you wanted.
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All hatred towards MP3 consists of MUH MONA!

Max Payne was never about action bimbos.
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>>320684529

>I literally didn't play the game: the post
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story was meh but everything else was pretty great, inb4 atmosphere fags
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>>320684028
>>320684529

I liked it. It was far too easy, but I did enjoy it. It also had one of the best gunfight music tracks I've heard in a while:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEH_LSL4rVw
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>>320684028
>hey guys lets make man on fire the video game
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>>320685519
Except. I did. I beat it too.

I honestly can't remember a single thing about the story or the characters. All I remember was the gameplay. That may seem like a credit to MP 3, but it's only for games that aren't trying to share a legacy with games like MP 1 and 2. I expect more out of Max Payne games.
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>>320684618
The story was inconsequential, the gameplay was worse than 2's in every single way, and the best part about the series, the mafia noire, was replaced with boring gta 5 world. I mean it was FINE i guess but it might as well have not been a max payne game.
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>>320686645
kys
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>>320686645
I feel like you may have played a completely different game.
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>>320684028

Why did they put max payne in this game beyond the hope the brand would push titles?

All the story needed was a clueless american ex-cop, and who max payne was as a character was completely irrelevant outside of this role.
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>>320684028
One of the best third person shooters gameplay wise.
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>>320686729
>>320686794

>>320686972
thank you
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>>320684028
money?
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>>320687005
I only wish they didn't limit bullet time so much. in 2 you would regen it almost constantly so you got to use it alot. Other than that it was fun.
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>>320686378
But were would have max gone to after MP2?

In the canon ending Mona Sex is dead. He has literally nothing to live for. I'm surprised the 3rd wasn't just Max Payne 3: The fall of Max Payne. For real this time.

And the gameplay would only consist of you picking the way Max would An hero.
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>>320686378
how about your wife singing to you in the finale?
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>>320687338

>canon ending

the canon ending is that she lives, which is not the ending max payne 3 goes with since if she lives, he has no reason to be in the plot.

The game basically fucked up a nice two part series that concluded all the loose ends for what amounted to a side-story with no point.

The main family gets killed off in a series of pointless murders. My only issue was just how everything linked together in the game.

I still have no idea what the fuck the organ trafficking scheme had to do with the corrupt cops and the one brother's scheme to take over the family, and why this one family was suddenly the key to a countrywide conspiracy.
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Anyone else found Max Payne 3 a lot more challenging to the originals?
I remember dying only to explosives in 1 and 2
Also Payne had a hard life
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>>320687636

On top of that, what was the shady bullshit happening on the yacht that got the revolutionaries involved?
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Why the fuck is 2 the fall of Max Payne?
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>>320687651
you mean colourfull bullshit that makes you hard to see where your bulletime jump will land?
yeah i die so many time for stupid thing, there is a reason why the previous game is simple graphic but satisfying bullet time., the more complex the environment the harder to use bullet time
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>>320687338
>But were would have max gone to after MP2?

The irony here is the material MP3 rips off is actually a kidnapping plot involving the Italian Mafia ans they could have easily replaced the love interest with Mona. They could have dived right into it and kept all the noire.
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>>320687983
What the fuck anon, are you blind or something?
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>>320687651
I just really loathed the cover shooting. 1 and 2 were great because it was basically jump and shoot: the game. The third punished you for using it and instead made you hide behind cover constantly.

>>320688007
Literally they could have just followed the flashback of when you meet passos, NJ mob boss after you. Done, better story already.
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Well i dont know i guess they thought this
>hey team, lets make the best shooter of 2012, slap in the best gameplay ever seen in the cover and shoot style, make a story for it in wich we can more deeply understand max payne's character and tragedy
>dont forget the 10/10 soundtrack to go with it
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1 > 3 > 2

3 wasn't perfect, but people overlook so much of 2's bullshit

>pants-on-head retarded escort missions
>escort mission where you escort Max Payne, the absolute last person in the universe to need escorting
>TACTICOOL RELOADS
>story is a mishmash of flashbacks
>ending is basically EVERYTHING IS TOTALLY FINE I SWEAR

The only thing good about 2 was the mods. Beyond that, it was basically a retread of the first game with muh Mona fanfiction tacked on.
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>>320688007
>>320688183

The most annoying thing was the New Jersey flashbacks. Basically a window into a better story and setting that could have been used instead of what they actually went for.
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>>320688865
>1>3>2
No.

If those are the first complaints that come to your mind, then I don't really see how you could look at 3 and say it's better. Rockstar fans, I swear.

>No memorable characters
>Unskippable cutscenes (no they're not loading)
>Weapon switch after cutscenes
>Max acting out of character, walking into a room full of bad guys with a hostage in a cutscene
>Bad story & writing
>Several sections where you're on rails on a helicopter or boat and have to protect a hostage

Not to mention the reasoning for him leaving and going to Brazil to work as a bodyguard is pretty stupid. So he angered the mob, so what? It isn't the first time this has happened and it never stopped Max Payne before, and if he is tired of that kind of life why pick up a job in Brazil as a body guard and admit violence is 'all you can do'.
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>>320684028
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iUsFa-75QE
>Take fun action adventure
>Make sequel
>Edge fest
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>>320690341
He went to brazil because passos convinced payne about using that as a fresh start/new life
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>>320691258
So then, he probably was thinking that it'd be the usual body guard work, right? And so he would have fucking left as soon as his job was over/failed and they were kidnapped, to break out of the cycle, which is what he was trying to do in the first place by going there.

But no, it was just a weak excuse to send him elsewhere and do the story Rockstar wanted all the while putting on the game title 'Max Payne' for any kind of brand recognition.

Oh and if you think the ending to 2 was:
>EVERYTHING IS TOTALLY FINE I SWEAR

Then what about Max just chilling on the beach like any cliché movie and everything being 'fine'?

How is that any better point to end his grief after something completely unrelated to his family or anyone he's been involved with?
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>good graphics
>decent story
>good voice acting
>good controls
>challenging
>amazing music

I don't get the hate for this game,there are even flashback chapters that feel like classic Max Payne. The worst thing about it was the multiplayer and film burn.
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>>320691725
by the time the Blancos start getting kidnapped he's already a trusted body guard and being paid and living...he wasn't just gonna up and run off when he owed them a debt. Even if you don't like the story it makes sense.
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>>320691841
>Even if you don't like the story it makes sense

So then he didn't really go there to start fresh? I really don't think any of this makes sense, regardless if I like it or not. And even if it would make sense I still think it's a lame excuse.
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>>320684028
Its fun
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>>320691741

Max Payne is supposed to be noir.

Brazil is too bright and ghetto.

It's a stupid nitpick.
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>>320684028
Most unbalanced and broken MP ever.
>sawn offs that snipe
>dual pistols that snipe
Literally everything is outclassed by the sawn off and dual auto 9mms.
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Baldzil was a great game op.
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>>320684028

ITT: What are you thinking?
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All of my soul crushing disappoint

>this is the last TSB made by a Japanese team
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>>320692236
the mob is after him back in the u.s.

he's not the kind of person to just quit. especially as he blames himself when fabiana is kidnapped. just like in previous games he seeks justice and answers
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>>320684529
MP3 has fuckall to do with Batman, please stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>320694202
Again, since when has the mob ever stopped him? And if he is not the kind of person to just quit, why leave and do body guard work instead of dealing with the mob?

I guess he thought he could change, and that's the idea. I think it's pretty damn weak though, could have been any other game and protagonist.

Especially since all we end up with is the same conclusion as the second one, only worse and with no relation to the people he knew and cared about.
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>>320686302
>hey guys, man on fire is the only revenge story I know about
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>>320686378
>I honestly can't remember a single thing about the story or the characters.
Sounds like a problem with your attention span and not the game itself.
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>>320687636
>the canon ending is that she lives
Nowhere is it stated which one of the two endings is canon.
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>>320691725
>And so he would have fucking left as soon as his job was over/failed and they were kidnapped, to break out of the cycle, which is what he was trying to do in the first place by going there.
No, that sounds like some contrived bullshit you came up with after the fact. Stop aggravating the board with your schizophrenic fanfiction.
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>>320684529
>If its not exactly like the prequels it's not good!!

Holy fuck, I even recently replayed MP1 and 2 recently and I think they managed to capture the writing style of the previous games extremely well, despite being in a totally different environment with a different art style. The narration was GOAT.
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>>320692756
>Max Payne is supposed to be noir.
Where does the bullet time and acrobatics fit into noir at all? You're a simp, fuck off.
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>>320694774
The words of someone with no arguments. I'm having a discussion, the person I'm talking with said he left because he was promised a new start, and that didn't happen.

Besides it's just one part of why I don't like the writing or the game in general. If you want a hugbox about your mediocre game, feel free to go somewhere else.
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>>320695021
>Your arguments don't count because I'm a fat mangirl and I feel entitled
Sorry but your rewrite is shit. You're posting your retarded fanfiction and expecting people to agree with it, even if it's idiotic and makes no sense.
Stop whoring for attention.
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>>320684028
Reinvent the wheel or die, seriously, how hard is it? Round and full of empty sperm
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>>320694482
he was wallowing in self pity. passos just gave him an excuse to move on.

and after he kills the son of mafia's boss he knows he won't survive for long. every mobster in town is out to kill him.

yes. it is a plot device. u might not like it but it is believable and makes the game be a bit more different than previous games while at the same time being a good max payne game. on par with previous in the series imo
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>>320695421
>on par with previous in the series imo

Well that's just where we disagree, I've listed several reasons why, story is just one of them. I don't mind someone enjoying the game, it's when you compare it to the originals made by Remedy that I have a problem.
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Mona is alive in MP3 as well. You can turn on one of the TVs and hear her voice actress narrating a commercial, and Max says "I must be losing it."
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>>320688183
The game's a fucking blast when you ignore cover for the most part. Accuracy on goons drops tremendously when you're moving around, especially dodging/jumping.

I think the inclusion of cover was mostly so that modern-FPS scrubs could use it as a crutch
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>>320695749
Maybe that's, oh i don't know, Max losing it.
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every MGS game after 3
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>>320687636
Either ending, it was a clear-cut ending
>Mona dies
She was practically the last 'loose end', the remnant of the whole secret society and conspiracy that was in the first game. Max makes peace with himself, and moves on
>Mona lives
Max finds a reason to go on, and Mona was that reason

Either way there were literally no one else that could've picked up the pieces and continued; the mafia was all but destroyed by Max, and the secret society and the cleaners were wiped out by Mona and Max

>>320687868
I think there was an article that said it was more about Max falling in love (sounds corny), and also from the fallout with the police, hence the title
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>>320692756
>literally Man on Fire: The Game
>I didn't mind, the gameplay was amazing, it just seemed that there was no reason to bring him back

If they re-made Max Payne 1&2 with MP3's gameplay?
>mfw
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>>320695647
sure it was a big risk by a new developer of a well established franchise to attempt something new. the game has a shift in tone, setting and atmosphere.

some people liked it. some people didn't. personally i liked that r* did something new with max payne.

mp3 is different but it's not inferior
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>>320696550
I guess that goes for the new Silent Hill, DmC and Thi4f as well. A lot of people like it outside of 4chan.
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>>320696739
oh come on that comparison is ridiculous.
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>one retard in this thread shitposting as to why Max Payne 3 isnt a good game with insults and logical fallacies
why do you keep replying to the faggot
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>>320697051
I ain't comparing the content of the games, just saying they're similar situations, except non of them were made by giants like Rockstar. So they already have a dedicated fanbase who like their style of games.
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Max Payne 3 was pretty great.
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>>320697147
let's just agree to disagree. there are people that liked 1 and 2 and also liked the third one by rockstar. i doubt that it's only cause it was made by them. mp3 was genuinely a good game. maybe not enough like the old max payne games for other people
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