Why his mullet is so big in MGS2?
Because Kojima wants to have sex with Mel Gibson.
Because he's a real man.
>>249028000
Better?
It was cool in the 2000's
>>249028000
Because mullets are kick ass if you can pull it off
Why did he look so shitty in 2?
>>249028000
Fuck is a mullet? Long hair?
because hair grows you retard
>>249028974
He looked cool as Plisken, but nothing will beat classic Snake.
>>249029139
Not even the MGS4 young snake mask?
Because the character he is based off of has a big mullet
>>249029139
I fucking hate the young snake face in MGS4 it looks nothing like it should
>>249029346
You can't prove he is based on anyone.
>>249029467
Yeah okay
Didn't he only cut his hair short for Shadow Moses because he didn't like the idea of looking too similar to Liquid?
>>249029467
MG2/MGS2 Snake is obviously just Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon.
>>249029602
Yes. In the briefing he had long hair.
>>249028356
reminds me way too much of Twin Snakes
>>249029346
kojima explicitly stated that snake is not based off of snake plissken
>>249029467
>Snake
>Plisken
I hope I'm falling for bait
>>249030267
>listening to anything Kojima says
Wouldn't want anything to make him not sound like a genius auteur.
>>249030284
Are you stupid? Plissken has two s's. So he's more sssssnake-like.
>>249030267
Maybe it's just coincidence.
>>249029401
What? He looks great in MGS4 (Young I mean)
>>249030768
yeah, and maybe it's a coincidence that i fucked your mum 15 years and 9 months ago on your birthday
>>249030979
OH SHIT
HE JUST SAID THAT HE FUCK YA MOMS
AND THAT YA 15
LMOA
GET BLOWNTHEFUGGOUT INTO TOMORROW SUNDAY
>>249030979
>conception = birthday
it's like you knew to throw in the 9 months, but you didn't know why you were doing it
>>249029139
Isn't his outfit/haircut available in one of the side missions in mgs2?
>>249031168
AND ALSO IMPLIED THAT HE IS YOUR FATHER BECAUSE HE FUCKED YOU'RE MOM ON THE DAY OF YOUR CONCEPTION
WOW
>>249030979
You tried
>>249031168
>>249029072
Finish your teenage years and I'll tell you.
>>249031359
The Snake Tales mission that's on the Tanker has the sneaking suit, can't remember if he has the mullet or not.
>>249029268
>>249029401
I agree, MGS4 young snake a shit.
>>249030267
>codename is Snake
>similar mannerisms
>uses "Pliskin" as an alias in 2
Yeah, totally not connected.
>>249031774
Why would kojima lie?
>>249030109
Maybe that's why he has the mullet. To imply a difference between MGS Snake and MGS2 Snake. He's changed as a character since the first game.
>>249031828
So people don't call him a hack who cobbles together ideas from other media?
I mean, I believe that he's not "based on" the character in the sense that anything other than general style and badassery is supposed to be in common, but to claim there's no connection is full retard.
>>249031609
*is
mgs1 outfit was his best one
Mullets are disgusting and only rednecks have them.
>>249032617
You know, the youth of ancient Byzantium had mullets.
>>249029401
it looks just like MGS2 snake, but HD and more realistic. that's how he would look if it wasn't for accelerated aging.
>>249031609
>dem fish lips
TTS snake looks awful, shit remake as well.
>>249030267
his name came from plissken, but his face/body were based on christopher walken and jean-claude van damme.
still, he has all the same mannerisms and shit, like repeating everything that's said to him.
pic related is best snake.
![mgs_ects1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/nAzAATn.jpg "mgs_ects1[1].jpg")
>>249030109
Snake is one goofy looking feller in Twin Snakes
>>249033214
Repeating everything?
>>249028000
David Bowie.
Kurt Russell
>>249033403
That's said to him?
>>249033403
Metal... Gear?!
>>249032964
>Byzantines
>Not DisgustingI'm not even going to pretend I know what I'm talking about
>>249030768
>left eye
Solidus?
>>249033214
>repeating everything that's said to him.
That's a Japanese thing actually.
People do it to denote that they are listening to someone talking to them.
>>249033681
>>249033689
No seriously, did they ever address the fact that doing that is kind of retarded, I mean in the games themselves?
>>249034026
A Japanese thing, huh?
>>249034026
Talking to them?
>>249034109
I think he does it so he remembers important stuff
>>249028000
SUPER BABY METHOD?
>>249034212
>>249034136
IndeedIt's one of their secret black projects
>>249034425
>>249034267
>Okay Snake, this is the 20th you go up against Metal Gear. Remember that name Snake, Metal GEAR, you have to remember the basics Snake.
>>249034479
YOU KNEW?
>>249028000
Because it was a VR simulation
>>249034479You knew?
>>249034026
Japanese?
>>249034572
Snake, remember the basics of RPGs
>>249029139
was it ever explained why plisken and snake look so much alike?
>>249028000
>Why
Because it's snake in his prime, dumbass
>>249034772
Plisken was another clone of Big BossThe fifth Snake
>>249033214
>TTS snake looks awful, shit remake as well.
Those are 2 nice wrong opinions you've got there.
>>249034858
V HAS COME TO
>>249034109
It's because of this>>249034026
>>249034026
That makes the translation shitty.
>>249035238
Shitty?
A little off topic, but what's a good walkthrough of MGS4? I'm playing MG-MGSPW in anticipation of MGSV, but I'm not buying a ps3 for MGS4.
>>249035238
Translation?
>>249035383
just watch MGS 4 the movie on youtube.
>>249035334
>>249035407
When you translate, you have to keep in mind the most natural way of speaking in the language you're translating to.
>>249035238
Makes?
>>249035626
Language?
>>249035003
the substance model looked better somehow, not sure how they fucked it up.
twin snakes isn't that bad by itself really, but its dog shit compared to MGS1.
>>249035626
The most natural way!
>>249035602
and then Peace Walker the movie too, because it's a shitty MGS game
>>249035863
This. Everything wrong with MGS5 was foreshadowed in PW.
>>249035626
Mind?
>>249035626
Consider the following. You're writing a game set in a western setting. Why the fuck wouldn't you write the dialogues in english and then translate them? This shit comes close to anime that are set outside of japan but still don't give a fuck about that. And I mean even god damn Gundam, something made 35 years ago did a better job than the average recent anime.
>>249035768
>people still parroting this shit
It's better in almost every conceivable way.
>>249035626
Way of speaking?
>>249032409
Agreed, Snake will always be MGS1 Snake in my head.
>Dat model
Still lookspretty goodtoday.
>>249035863
So why is it when the past 3 MGS games have been shit (if you include Ground Zeroes as a game instead of a demo) people are still excited about MGS5?
>>249035626
Trans... Late? Otacon!
>>249035952
god damn Gundam!?
>>249036229
GZ was fine, just far too expensive.
>>249034619
>>249034583
You knewmind
>>249035953
>soundtrack is worse
>voice acting is worse
>cutscene direction is just fucking silly
i prefer twin snakes' gameplay but everything else i just cannot get down with
>>249035953
>Worse VAing ruining the best scenes
>Gameplay ruined by MGS2 updates
Yeah, better in almost every way. Except the ones that count
>>249036447
>two posts apart
>hivemind
>>249036525
>soundtrack is worse for having more than 3 songs
>voice acting actually makes sense (IE: a Californian doesn't have a Chinese accent)
>hating CUHRAZY
Nah son
>>249035953
if it's any consolation, TTS was my first MGS since i grew up playing nintendo consoles.
i liked it, but after getting into the series and playing MGS1 a few years ago, i realized what a terrible remake it was.
try playing it again anon, if you haven't already. if you can look past the dated graphics you might be able to appreciate what a great game it is.
>>249036229
We haven't had a properly good MGS since 3 so really we should expect it to be shit.
I feel hopeful for MGSV from the trailers so far though, and GZ as a demo is promising.
>>249036540
>gameplay ruined by mgs2 updates
>"hurrr you can shoot in first person!!! ocelot fight ruined!"
Just don't fucking use it, it's not necessary.
>>249036525
VA was a little worse, but not bad. The cutscene direction was sillier, but it's not like MGS1 was exactly grounded in the first place. The soundtrack is actually better in some places, in my opinion. The lack of Duel and Evasion is disappointing though
>>249029072
long hair in back; short hair in front.
>>249036943
>CUHRAZY
That shit belongs in Rising and even then it doesn't belong in the MG universe.
>>249036963
MGS4 was great though, it was great in the way The Room is a great movie.
>>249036961
I just completed it about an hour ago, funnily enough. It's fantastic, and so is Twin Snakes. TS has less charm for sure, but it's is an improvement on MGS1 in all but style.
>>249037231
Business in the front, party in the back
>>249037235
>having an elitist attitude towards rising even though MGS4's entire focus was on technology making humans in warfare essentially outdated
Yeah, that sounds like a metal gear fan alright.
>>249037235
are we talking about the same series? MGS has allways been whacky and retarded bullshit anon
>>249037235
The series was FOUNDED on goddamn cuhrazy. The closest the series came to normal was MGS3, and that featured ghosts, a guy who could shoot lightning jus' cus' and ended with a big dumb fightwith a big dumb tank.
>think of Solid Snake
>every time
>>249037235
have you played MGS4 recently?
that scene where Raiden's cyborg ninja abilities are revealed is extremely CUHRAYZEE, and it doesn't even feel out of place.
If anything Rising toned Raiden down just a notch.
>>249036525
>>249036540
>>249036961
TTS is a lot better when you imagine it as otacon retelling it to someone
>>249037975
TTS is Raiden's VR training
>>249037485
I don't have any problems with the themes brought up between either of the games, it's the CURAHZZY cutscene direction that I don't agree with. It was silly in TTS and it's silly in Rising. It doesn't fit well with the way the rest of the cutscenes are done in the series.
Why you started talking about something totally unrelated, I can't be sure of. Are you alright?
>>249036039
He had the best voice acting in it too
>>249038113
But MGS2 is VR
>>249028000
I don't know why people hate mullets so much.
I guess it depends on the face.
>>249037848
His face looks kinda strange in that picture.
>>249036943
>voice acting actually makes sense
I don't think I can get along with anyone who prefers Twin Snakes or MGS4 voice acting to original MGS. We differ on too fundamental a level
>>249038635
Raiden did VR training of Shadow Moses before the events of MGS2
Big Shell was the next step
>>249038635
>everything after MGS is VR
>>249039020
>Implying MGS1 isn't VR too
>>249036943
>CUHRAZY
Well, thansk to point out that you are a retard
>>249038120
>intentionally missing the point to make a condescending remark
Yeah, we're done here. I might be wasting my time on /v/, but I'm not wasting my time on you.
>>249039195
>all of MG series is VR
>all of MG series isa video game
dear god...
>>249039634
Stupidest theory yet
>>249032309
>*is
Welcome, newfriend
>>249034026
I do it to women because it makes them believe I'm listening when really I'm trolling 4chan on my phone and only tuning in every 45 seconds to find a sentence to repeat...works ok.
>>249032272
>So people don't call him a hack who cobbles together ideas from other media?
why would people call him a hack for that? Quentin Tarantino does that all the time. Kojima is basically the QT of video games.
>>249037848
It's a bit weird how in Brawl they gave him Big Boss' head. I'd have like a MGS1 look more but can't pass up on bearded Kirby.
>>249040281
Suda 51 is the QT of vidya
>>249028201
>you will never have a secret club handshake with Otacon
why even live?
>>249037893
>If anything Rising toned Raiden down just a notch
That's not even remotely true.
>>249039268
>Missing the point
What point? I seriously don't know what you're trying to prove. All I'm saying is the TTS had over the top cutscenes that weren't in line with the rest of the series. They feel goofy and out of place. Ridiculous things like Snake back flipping onto a missile only to jump off of it and fire a missile from a stinger belong in crazy action games not MG.
So tell me, what does MGS4 have to do with any of this?
>>249039834
Finally, something to help with small talk.
>>249040669
don't forget swery
>>249041978
At least QT is up front with what he steals from
>Twin Peaks? What's that? Never heard of it
>>249028000
I'm sure as hell not reading the entire thread, but a quick ctrl + f of ke1y words and phrases tells me no one's said it yet (unless this is some new /v/ meta where everyone pointedly refrains from posting an actual answer).
The mullet was designed to show off the engine in demos, must have been back before people knew about Raiden, too. It was basically just Kojima shouting TECHNOLOGY.13 years later and the game still looks fucking amazing.
How long until the PP demo on Kojima station?
>>249043664
6 am tomorrow.
>>249028000
It's because he never had the time to cut it, I mean just look at his beard, back in MGS 1 he was clean shaven, MGS 2 not so much because he was on the run a lot of the time.
>>249031359
Yeah, plus there's a MGS1 Snake set of missions in the VR Missions.
>>249043782
Right
And what time is it now?
>>249043937
he only cut his hair so he wouldn't be mistaken for liquid.
>>249043782
>>249044302
I just looked it up, 7PM nip time (GMT+9). Thanks guys.
>>249044390
>I have to infiltrate this secret base
>I look identical to the leader of the operation
>oh, no! Better change my appearance so people there don't mistake me for him
Snake's not very smart is he
>>249028201
>Otacon will never hug Snake again
>>249032409
>>249036039
Too bad we'll never see it again.
>>249044951
>has an IQ of 180 and fluent in 6 languages
>tricked by a pair of sunglasses
>>249044390
Why is his hair blonde?
>>249045587
But the portraits are just there for the player. They can't actually see each other.
>>249034026
Japanese thing. Got it.
Then denotation. Ok.
>>249046227
Doesn't Liquid reference his Miller Time sunglasses though? It's not like anything about the codec makes sense to begin with. People act as if they are visible.
>>249046227
I think I said this in another thread before, but anon pointed out a few lines that imply some kind of visual link.
If not, my theory is Liquid is doing it to trick the player. Meta as fuck, yo.
>>249045475
>MGS1
>VR Missions
>Ghost Babel
>Substance
>Twin Snakes
>Acid
>Ground Zeroes
its his most recurring design. i'd love to see it in HD though, see >>249033214
>>249045825
pretty sure it's just the lighting, but pliskin was originally going to be blonde too.
>>249046227
>DID YOU LIKE MY SUNGLASSES?
>>249046641
Pretty sure it's just 4th wall and whatnot
>>249034026
Hmm. Hmm hmm hmm. Hai. Hmm hmm. Hmm.
>>249045825
Why is his skin black?
>>249029139
Young MGS4 snake is far hotter though.
>>249046696
I think he's talking about the model rather than the general design. I spent way too long looking at it in GZ.
>>249047532
The eyes are off with MGS4, but that might be the shadow from the bandana. He definitely looks a bit chubbier in my opinion. What's the middle one from? Looks the closest to the codec.
>>249047532
I finally realise what doesn't feel right about the young snake in MGS4
It's the damn nose.
If it had that down point to it like the other games it would look perfect
>>249048313
legacy collection
>>249047532
The codec picture honestly would make believe that Solid Snake's face should have a very low amount of fat.
>>249028201
This is why Snake is better than Big Boss. He's got a cool club handshake.
>>249051071
>would probably just tell EVA about it anyway
>MGS5 coming out soon(ish)
>Played all the games except 4 because tfw no PS3, although a pretty much know what happens
>decide fuck it, im going to watch the entire full-length 7 hour cutscene movie tonight
how fucked am I?
>>249052372
You're going to miss all the fun really.
Especially the final boss fight, watching it doesn't do it justice.
>>249052484
I think the final boss was the only thing that wasn't spoiled for me. I knew what it was, but not exactly how goddamn cool it was
Also the only other cool boss fight, I had heard it mentioned before, but I thought it happenedat the end of MGS2.
>>249047532
>>249029139
I think we can all agree who the best Snake is.
>>249030979
Holy shit, she was in labor for a whole year? That shit can't be healthy.
>>249039634
It's just dumb enough that Kojima might actually pull it.
>>249045587
He's booksmart, not common-sense smart. High INT, low WIS.
>>249028000
His hair grew?
Snake is fucking gay
>>249054779
No shit, Sherlock
So.... I want to repent about my words and deeds, any news on that claim Kojima made or it was just buzzwords because he needed to damage control the situation with that dutch whore?
>>249047532
CGI Snake is the closest to mgs1 snake
MGS4 Snake is the handsomest
Twin Snake, Snake is the retarded cousin
>>249045587
You can't see people through codec until mgs4, the game just forgets that or breaks the fourth wall.
Even in mgs3 this happens.
>>249046696
I can't fucking wait for that figure. It's a shame Revo is downscaling, but I'm just glad to have a decent Solid Snake figure.
![m1B2CEH[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TOIkECg.jpg "m1B2CEH[1].jpg")
>>249051071
>>249051425
I guess it's time
>>249056016
>The man who eats gross shit
>>249056016
MGS is so confusing to an outsider who hasn't played it. Isn't big boss just snake after he beats his mentor who was called the boss? Or ones a clone or some shit, how can they not be identical if ones a clone of the other though
>>249056942
solid is a clone of big boss. big boss's old codename was naked snake. There are a few differences in them in terms of appearance though, but they look like a father and son
>>249028000
Snake died on that tanker two years ago...
>>249034461
Man did he sound stupid while saying it.
>>249034461
OCTUPLETS?
>>249057956
>2 years ago
2007 was 7 years ago anon
snake has been dead for 7 years
>>249036943
>soundtrack is worse for having more than 3 songs
le bait face
>>249046227
I think they have the technology for seeing what Snake does, and I think he can see them as well. Otherwise shit like Natasha wouldn't make much sense. Also they definitely have that technology by the time MGS2 happens.
>>249057956
Snake is dead...
Daily reminder that the english version of mgs2 was botched by a bipolar japanese woman who is now blacklisted by all japanese companies for deliberately causing shit, who is on record saying she hates kojima and american movies. she's also a sjw and feminist
>>249056942
That's a whole 'moral of the story' element in MGS1, how your genes don't define who you are going to be.
Solid Snake was cloned from Big Boss who once went by the codename Naked Snake. Big Boss basically become the greatest soldier ever so they cloned him three times. Then he went off and evil'd out by founding his own soldier nation because he loved war so much. Eventually Solid Snake beat him, and then some whack shit went down with his clone brother.
>>249028189
Play Snatcher
>>249058747
who cares
>>249059003
>who cares
Everybody who played the english version of MGS2, which she deliberately misstranslated to make the whole thing appear to be incoherent.
>>249056942
The original Snake was Naked Snake. Naked Snake kills his mentor The Boss so he gets named Big Boss. Solid Snake is a clone of Big Boss, but not a direct clone. He has a fraternal twin brother, Liquid Snake. Solid Snake and Liquid Snake express Big Boss' genes in different ways, with Solid expressing dominant genes and Liquid expressing recessive. They're not true 100% clones of Big Boss. Solid and Big Boss looks alike when they're young, but look very different as they age, much like what might happen with a father and son. The only true 1:1 clone of Big Boss is Solidus Snake.
>>249058747
That's nice and all but what were the most outrageous things she did, translation wise? I thought it was perfectly fine. As for MGS1, I liked both the Japanese and English scripts. Only the former felt like one my Japanese animes, the latter like a very kickass 90's movie.
>>249059153
how?
>>249059407
in terms of writing so far mgs1 was my favorite. mgs2's ending was really cool thoughjust started playing them a few months ago, beat 1, started playing 2, went on a hiatus for 2 months after getting the BDU, beat it last week and am on 3 now, right after volgin kills granin
>>249059407
>Spanish Snake sounds like a spanish Sean Connery if he was hispanic.
Pure sex.
>>249059407
>That's nice and all but what were the most outrageous things she did, translation wise? I thought it was perfectly fine. As for MGS1, I liked both the Japanese and English scripts. Only the former felt like one my Japanese animes, the latter like a very kickass 90's movie.
lel most of the script was boderline incoherent
>>249058747
>>249059153
source?
>>249059790
>how?
Because the translation sucked. There's so much lost in translation. Ryan Patton made a huge deal about that when asked about it.
And like I said, that crazy woman is on record saying she hates MGS2, Kojima and american action movies so she did her best to sabotage the translation.
>>249059863
>lel
So mind pointing out the incoherence?
>>249060048
Did you say nerd?
>>249060031
>source?
Her name is Agness Kaku, she is currently doing some SJW crusade against some white knight nerd she ripped off until he stopped giving her money.
The interview was for hardcoregaming 101 but was taken offline, because she threw a fit when people pointed out that she should never translate a game again if she deliberately does a poor job because she hates the game designer or his hobbies.
>>249058151
HUMAN EXPERIMENTS!
>>249060048
It didn't seem that ba-
>>249060339
oh
>>249060048
>>249060345
I'm aware she's the devil, but we're not talking about her, neither do we need to shift the topic on her, we're talking about MGS2's translation. What went wrong with it?
>>249060606
You mean you've seen them NAKED?
>>249035953
I don't get it either. I DO agree that the voice acting was worse, but it looked better and played better than the original. The HIND D and Ocelot fights suffered because they became easier with the different gameplay, but i still enjoyed it immensely. I don't know why people keep shitting on it, i enjoyed it.
>>249060679
what went right?
>>249059153
So MGS2 actually makes perfect sense and we just got a crazy fucked up version?
>>249060987
Every MGS game is full of weird awkward dialogue and just "huh?" moments.
>>249060987
The original was 'Colonel! We just drowned!'
Fucking mistranslations
>>249060987
That was a fucked up delivery on Flynn's part (probably because he didn't get much direction there), the line is perfectly fine. Maybe it could've been better if they went "We've managed not to drown.", but it's not anything worth fighting about. What did the Japanese line say?
>>249056016
>gets put into coma every 2 weeks
>>249061687
Man, Joel would make an awesome villain in mgs, he just has the face for it.
Super baby method?
>>249061851
clint eastwood's son would make a good snake
>>249062307
>We were accessories to murder before we were even born!
Is that seriously a thing that happens? Seems slightly fucked up
how playable is the PC version of MGS2?
>>249037975
I like this idea. Makes sense of the over the top moments in the Twin Snakes cutscenes.
>Single handedly taking out a tank? That's crazy! You're insane
>You're the toughest, craziest, most hardcore badass on the planet. YOU'RE...THE SHIT!
>>249037975
This actually makes total sense
>>249062314
I'm leaning towards Karl Urban.
What was with that non-canon sequel where Snake was all old and they never address the fact that he got his assed killed on the tanker? How does he even know Raiden?
>>249062532
Alright
>>249062943
He looks a shit load like hayter
lol
>>249059257
we all know liquid got the dominant genes, he was just rused otherwise making him spiteful and strong, thats why he survives nearly everythign solid throws at him in mgs1
>>249062314
Holy shit, that's some god tier genetics right there.
>>249034479
If it hadnt been for thu rEVOLUSHUN !
>>249062532
It was really dependant on the Geforce cards of that time, so that any different brand got different random glitches. Today it's mostly fine if you're going nvidia, but there's a bug when you switch the model detail beyond level 2.
>>249062943
>Karl Urban
Someone needs to shoop the bandana on this
>>249034479
So if this guy is one of the Patriots, why did they let Ocelot kill him?
>>249063092
>He looks a shit load like hayter
Hayter looks like a young sutherland.
>>249063212
dominant genes are not good or bad or "dominant" in any other sense other that they are expressed when only one gene is present. recessive genes need both genes to be recessive in order to be expressed. Any trait expresses by genes would only be good or bad when given context, and it would always be subjective.
>>249045587
MAH NIGGA ยก :-)
>>249063092
You know who else does?
The dude that presented the world premiere trailer for TPP at the VGAs
STAAANDING
>>249035952
So it's just like their Japanese animes?
>>249063783
THERES A CONNECTION HERE
>>249063783
Hayter looks like a Fat sutherland.
>>249063775the patriots weren't real
>>249063942
SLUMPING
ON THE EDGE
OF THE BARSTOOL
JEANS COVERED IN PISS
>>249063783
BROTHER
>>249063212
No, Liquid got the "superior" genes, he's still Recessive
>>249063672
now with pic
>>249064094
IM NUUUKUUUUUUUULLAAAAAAAAAAR
>>249064148
He's more Big Boss than Solid, I think
Bit of facial hair and he might look the part
>>249064289
No he has the perfect MGS1 Snake's nose
>>249063506
WHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>249063783
Jesus the resemblance is uncanny.
>>249064148
>>249063672
>karl urban
Do you all have defective eyes or something?
That cook-nosed nigga ain't looking like snake at all. He got a stubble, that's about it.
>>249063802
and to add even more, if there was a set of like 16 genes they were looking at in BB's DNA that they were calling the "soldier genes" the odds of them all being "superior" and either all recessive or all dominant is ridiculous, the superior ones would be a mixture. so just making one all dominant and one all recessive is stupid as shit.
Kojima just lifted that off the movie Twins with Arnold Scharzeneggar and Danny Devito, its the exact same fucking plot
>>249064462
No he doesn't, it's weird.
