With a new doom game coming soon, can we take a moment to talk about this beautiful bastard?
What went right?
The shadows and lighting were top shelf. They still look great today.
The level design and enemy placement are just about perfect.
Great atmosphere and soundtrack, truly spooky and not in a cheesy over the top way.
The progression of difficulty was spot on.
The combat is still hip-fire strafey, just like it should be.
What went wrong?
It's too easy on veteran.
The "enemies spawn behind you" thing becomes a meme about halfway through the game.
The shotgun fucking sucks.
So does the PDA.
Combat is slow.
I was about 20 or so when the game first came out and i hated it. I wanted it to be more fast paced like the other two games.
I just played through it this year for the first time since then (i had never finished it before) and I gotta say, after 11 years i think the game was and is severely underrated.
Still sucks compared to the originals, but that goes without saying.
>>320210985
>I was about 20 or so when the game first came out and i hated it. I wanted it to be more fast paced like the other two games.
>there are 40 years old still browsing /v/...
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>>320211224
i'm 30 you bastard.
>>320210985
I agree for the most part.
It's hard to separate the game from the originals but I can't help but wonder how much differently the game would have been received if it wasn't a doom game but instead some other survival horror game.
I think it would have been an instant classic.
>>320210985
What went wrong? Well it wasn't Doom, that's for sure. It was a spooky Doom themed FPS, but it wasn't Doom.
Doom 4 looks more like Doom, but I'm worried it's not Doom either. Time will tell.
>>320211306
pls don't rape me, mr pedophile
>>320211224
You must be from reddit.
>>320211735
>>320211821
Congrats on missing the joke, Reddit.
>>320211716
I will definitely admit that it was not the best way to rehash the series, if it can even be called a rehash.
>Doom 3 is soon to be 12 years old
>I remember when i saw it reviewed in a gaming magazine
>back when those still existed and were at every store and pharmacy
>2004 was really that long ago
oh my fuck
What went right?
Nothing it was and still is a terrible doom. But it is better than all the shit we see today.
Am I the only one who like the movie even though it has fuck all to do with hell or demons?
>yfw you realize that Sarge wrapping the metal around his arm is a reference to the Cyberdemon
>>320211901
>what's goin on in my pants?
>>320214202
It is really bad but I like it too so you are not alone.
>>320212780
>the original Doom is almost old enough to rent a car
>people only care about Brutal Doom and DINO
>>320214202
It was campy and cheesy as all fuck.
honestly the only thing actually wrong with it is it's so dark you can't see shit.
But The Rock hamming it up as Sarge was fantastic.
also
>that FPS scene
>>320214347
aside from the low poly characters (everyone wears a loose futuristic jump suit to hide it) and a few quite shitty textures, the game still looks amazing in vanilla form.
The darkness helps for sure, but man that game looks good.
>>320211224
> i was about 20 years old when the game came out
>11 years later
>There are 40 years old browsing /v/
can't you at least do the math?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJGG2qJipDk
I always loved this little scary(?) bit. well it always got me to jump.
>>320210985
>The shotgun fucking sucks.
This is one of my biggest complaints.
In doom and doom II the shotguns are the players bread and butter, their bottom bitch, their right hand man.
Doom 3 shotgun is useless at any range beyond 3 feet. The spread is retarded. You're better off using the chainsaw once you're close enough to be effective with the shotgun.
Not very doom-like at all.
Co op mode on the Xbox version was so fun, but only like half the length of the singleplayer game. They threw double the amount of enemies at you, though.
>>320211550
it would have been a pretty good game but the "oh, an imp is spawning behind me again" & the guns feeling like shit would still have been a problem
>get minigun
>awfuckyeah.jpg
>it feels the same as the machine gun
???????
>plasma gun
>myfuckingfavorite
>boop: the gun
>>320215538
Plasma gun feels/sounds great in doom 3
>>320210456
ID
>alright crew time for a new DOOM. Lets take a moment and reflect on DOOM, DOOM2, and the decade of work the modding community has made
the RIGHT question:
>what can we do BETTER
the WRONG question:
>now what can we do DIFFERENT
and we know which one they went with
>>320215634
I love the reload sound, sounds like beer bottles
>>320215538
The chaingun kills faster than the machine gun, but it feels like shit.
The plasma is stronger on certain enemies i think, and weaker on others.
The grenades were fucking garbage though, that's for sure.
Soul cube is GOAT.
>>320215538
>chaingun
>know for its high rate of fire
>has a 60 round clip size
They had ONE. JOB. TO. DO.
>>320210456
Half Life: Spooky Demon Edition
shity enemy variety would have at least been tolerable if imps came at you in more than one le-teleport-behind-you-slow-and-loud way
>>320210456
>doom 4 footage looks like doom 3 with more polygons but less shadows / less spooky atmosphere
>press X to play a killing cutscene, no need to git gud :^)
>slow as fuck, who needs fast anyways, doom 4 is about getting comfy and pressing X anyways
>only a few enemies per room, don't want those console players with their elite controllers get overwhelmed by actual fps gameplay ;^)
>multiplayer is like quake 4 at 50% speed
>people on /v/ shit all over the footage and are genuinely disappointet
>"quick, we need to plant some threads invoking doom 3 to invoke some nostalgia and remind people that doom 4 is the same shit"
fuck off I don't want to be reminded of the disappointment doom 3 was. why even call this shit doom 3? this whole game was gimmicky as fuck, and the only interesting thing was the lightning and shadow design, which was a new thing back then. but else?
>you fight 1 cyberdemon in the entire game
>no brainspiders at all
>whoop dee doo, it's the fucking boss even
>max 4 enemies per room, every time you whip out the shotgun and think it's on, it's over after 5 seconds
die
>>320215864
Fuck the grenades!
>>320215864
soul cube was nice, but considering all you could do was look at it and throw it I wish it was just
>Q
to throw it when it was charged, not
>Q, click
>>320215872
reloading in general was annoying
>it creates tension in the player whe-
fuck that shit let me murderboner some demons.
>can't interrupt reload to switch weapons
>>320215907
The imps would have been cooler if they could attack you while climbing around the walls and ceilings.
>>320215907
They definitely borrowed some elements from half life and system shock 2..
>tfw you come across a sentry bot
>>320216064
and I can remember ONE time in the campaign where an imp was above me
level design was flat as fuck.
I think the expansion was better with that but I've got like five minutes into that.
>>320210456
STRAFE release whenhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/strafegame/strafe
>>320215758
Hey it's not like they did a bad job.
Game is good, it just feels wrong since it's a DOOM game, meaning that we wanted fast paced combats with powerful guns against powerful enemies in big maps.
Now that I think about it, DOOM 3 was the exact opposite of Doom 1-2.
Welp.
>What went right?
first area of delta labs
Replaying it recently there is a fair amount of stuff you can read and watch, forgot about that.
>>320216624
yeah the game actually has a halfway decent story.
which is fucking weird.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0nHNtbTXmM
>>320210456
Doom 3 is Doom retold through the eyes of a blind man trapped inside a black hole in the darkest reaches of the universe
The most fun I ever had with it was co-op LAN on xbox, and even that was only interesting because LAN co-op on Xbox. It just couldn't hold my attention at all like Doom. It wasn't fun.
>>320210456
it's a pile of garbage.
/thread
>>320210985
>>320215130
>Not understanding how to use the Doom 3 shotgun
If you know how to dodge thrown projecticles the shotgun is the absolute best weapon in the game. It literally destroys the difficulty and can take out almost every single enemy in one shot.
HellKnight, Cacodemon, Mancubus excluded.
Can we all agree that the original version is better than BFG version?
Original
>super dark
>can hold either your flashlight, or your weapon, not both
>maximum spooky
BFG
>brighter
>can have flashlight and gun out at same time
>minimized spooky
>>320217187
You still have to deal with its piss slow reload.
>>320217291
Ya gotta balance out the weapons stupidly high damage output somehow. The reload really isn't a problem since it will never take 8 shots to kill any enemy, if you use it properly.
>>320216931
Wasn't it just another "suddenly demons in mars" thing? With that crazy scientist-demon bringing that shit in.
>>320215758
I recall an interview with the big man himself where he mentions they made Doom 3 slower paced for a reason, I forget why
Playing the game without using the Flashlight is hella spooky. I fucking love it.
>>320217430
Generally, yes, but they game goes into a lot of detail about the space station, what exactly UAC was doing there, how the crisis first started, their reactions to it, etc.
The emails and audio recordings really fleshed out the world and made it so much more than the original games' "you're a space marine go kill these guys in space".
>>320216401
I like that it is it's own thing. Watching these e3 gameplay demo's of Doom4 now has me a little disappointed. It's just Brutal Doom on the IDtech4 engine... is that all we want?
>>320217212
>BFG version isn't brighter.
Actual differences:
>All ammo pickups give you double the amount of a normal pick up.
>Sergeant has stupid hair now.
>Resurrection of Evil "gas corridors" no longer require a gas mask and oxygen tanks to traverse.
Really there isn't that much different. The flash light only really changes the game if you haven't played through the game before.
>>320217467
probably something like "trying to do something different"
which they did, just who asked for different and not better
>>320210456
>every iteration of Doom has introduced some sort of new technology that advances the industry
>DOOM 2015 is just a semi fast paced shooter with a shitty map maker that brings nothing new to the table
Why bros?
>>320217689
>The flash light only really changes the game if you haven't played through the game before.
Well obviously, Doesn't change the fact that the original is more spooky and tense because it has the superior flashlight mechanic.
>>320216335
my niggah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIAWjanuLPc
>>320217849
>>every iteration of Doom has introduced some sort of new technology that advances the industry
Did Doom 2 had that?
>>320217689
Also, isn't BFG impossible to mod?
>>320210456
Things that new Doom will probably have:
>paid DLC
>perks
>a skill tree
>in game real money currency
>matchmaking instead of server browser
>female marines
>pre order bonuses
>people are now praising the flashlight mechanic in Doom 3
>>320217973
DOOM 2 used a slightly updated version of the DOOM engine that had maps that were way bigger than anything in the original.
>>320210456
The day that the DOOM 3 expansion included a rip off of the gravity gun from HL2 was the day that DOOM died
>>320218147
I'm using a graphic mod in BFG. Makes the game look better.
>>320218172
Yes
No
No
No
Maybe
Yes
Yes
It's a new Doom game and I'm not even hype... feels bad
>>320218707
That thing is balls. I was all set to do the expansion pack for the first time, saw that thing, haven't played since.
>>320217212
I only have BFG edition. Is this what the first scene of DOOM3 looks like?
>>320217212
>>320218834
for comparison
>>320216335
>>320217958
the devs seem pretty damn chill about the game.
http://strafedevblog.com/post/93056717598/how-we-are-handling-level-generation-in-strafe
Im not fond of randomized levels, but I'm mostly ok with how they are doing it here.
>>320218387
I downloaded flashlight mod from FilePlanet the first time I play it
>>320219032
Well then, you have a brain.
>>320217212
That's a shame. I bought the BFG edition because I wanted to replay it, and it looked like the better deal. I should have read that it gimped the game like that.
Good thing Steam has refunds now. Haven't even launched it yet, but doesn't sound worthwhile based on what you're saying.
what about doom 2? there are some nice mods that make you forget about the old ass graphics
>>320211224
Like you fucking millennial fags are gonna suddenly stop playing vidya once you hit 30.
>>320219204
you say "old ass graphics" like it's a bad thing
Here's why I don't like doom 3.
>fov is horrible, only game that has ever made me feel nauseous because fov is like 15
>it doesn't play like doom 1/2 at all, at ALL
>it's too dark, it's not scary, just annoying
>the game looks like clay
Doom 4 looks even worse. What a disgrace to the series these 2 games are.
>>320219171
You can change the brightness back to the original using a config edit i think.
If you don't mind the flashlight being changed, it's a good way to experience the game at a stable 1080p 60fps.
>>320219418
You can adjust the FOV on PC.
>>320219480
I had just read that config bit on the Steam discussions, yeah. Went on there after seeing the bit here to see what could be done about it. Decided to stick with the BFG edition afterall, flashlight thing isn't a biggie to me. The massive change in brightness was though. Just completely changes the atmosphere.
>>320218926
>chill
really comes through with this humor
https://youtu.be/U8bNMwESDbU?t=59
i hope the weapon models don't feel huge as shit in practice
they look annoyingly large in video
>>320219418
It's like people can't accept something that isn't just like the originals, no matter how much effort (or the lack thereof) put into the new work.
>>320220698
Probably cause they butchered it to appeal to console faggots.
>>320220995
Pretty sure it was ported to consoles, not the other way around.
It came out on PC first for sure.
Doom 3 i mean
>>320221117
Doom 3 on the PC was built from the beginning around the original Xbox's hardware to make it an easy port.
One of the people from id says this in one of the behind the scenes videos included in the special edition of Doom 3 on the Xbox.
>>320219204 here
>>320219280
i personally don't care about graphics, but i think most of /v/ here does.
