Another translation from the FE 25th Anniversary Making of Book this time about the skinshipping in Fates. Not my translation:
>The section starts off asking Higuchi about what he thinks about being able to touch units in Fates, since he was apparently against there being any kiss images in Awakening, and Higuchi is like, “Uhh…what’s the best place to start?” Apparently Maeda wanted to incorporate Live2D (a technology where 2D images move and appear somewhat 3D) when characters talk and have conversations. Higuchi himself thought that Live2D was an interesting technology, and held promise for the future, so he agreed, but not before warning, “don’t do anything weird!”
>According to Kusakihara, Yotaka from Nintendo was originally the one that suggested using the technology, and he wanted to use it for characters in images when they are standing. Kusakihara thought that while Live2D was really impressive, after an hour or more people would probably get used to it so it would lose its thrill. So then Maeda suggested using Live2D as a replacement for the confession scenes from Awakening.
>>320174228
>Maeda said he thought that it would be something people would really enjoy, and so rather than having to wait until marriage, it would be better if players could experience it from earlier on in the game. Then, he thought about the proper timing, which ended up being once per map.
>When they talked about it with Nintendo, Nintendo said they were over doing it, so they toned it down. Apparently, the version that Nintendo rejected was more extreme – you could touch a character anywhere, from their head to their stomach, and the touch icon was a hand. They thought the hand thing was kind of unpleasant, so they changed it to a touch pen (along with limiting the area players could touch).
>According to Maeda, there were two debugging teams that had totally different opinions on the matter. Team A found the whole thing kind of unpleasant, and were the ones that limited the touching area and switched the stylus from a hand. Team B was the opposite, and wanted to be able to touch the characters in more places and have the icon be a hand again. (In the end, I guess team A won out).
>Higuchi talks about how he periodically checked in to see how the Live2D situation was developing and was often surprised. Maeda took his dissatisfaction into account though, and the whole team reached a common ground. This is how Live2D skinship came to be as it is.
>Maeda adds that many people thought that the rating was higher due to all the My Room activity, but in reality one of the main reasons was Camilla’s entry cut scene.
Good god.
>>320174395
That last fucking part about camilia
>>320174827
I haven't played but I'm gonna assume that he's talking about the one where you run into her tits? But anyway this sounds like a mess, the Team A/Team B splits sounds so familiar, I wouldn't be surprised if they reflected the split in the fanbase.
>>320174228
>>320174395
So basically it sounds like various parts of the development team were just as divided on it as just about everyone else is.
>>320174395
YOU HEARD 'EM, BOYS
GIRL'S SO BEST SHE BROKE THE GAME'S RATING
NOHR FOREVER HOSHIDO GET OUT GET OUT GTE OUT
>>320175786
>>320175984
>>320174395
>>320175786
>>320175984
So just like Tharja, Camilla ruined Fire Emblem both fanbase and game wise.
>>320174228
>>320174395
And source though I know some of you are gonna bitch about it:https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/3wu9x3/on_facerubbing_in_fates_interview_from_the/
She's been translating stuff from the book such as Roy being named Ike at point, Ike, Mist, Leanne, and Titania's old pre-release profile, Leanne and Tibarn being engaged before that got cut, etc.
>>320174228
>"Don't do anything weird!"
Well, Higuchi-san, it feels like Maeda made it weird to me.
>>320176203
> both fanbase and game wise.
It practically had no fanbase remaining before Awakening (and I've been a fan since 2004)
>>320176462
But the one it has now, although it brought the series back to life are just here to see who is the next waifu they will shit post about.
>>320175786
>>320175984
>NoA will cut Camilla entirely.
>>320176679
>just here to see who is the next waifu they will shit post about.
Micaiah is the prettiest.
why is hoshido the main one that nintnedo is showing off? shouldn't it be nohr?
>>320176802
Because Japan.
>>320176679
Because that has never happened in Fire Emblem before.
>>320176802
because they want it to succeed so that they can make more open field zero-effort maps
>>320176782
Havent played Radiant Dawn yet (no Wii)? Should I?
>>320176935
Last time I checked your self insert cannot marry Lyn and cannot "touch" her in game.
>>320177017
I say so. The story is kind of ass but the gameplay is pretty good.
>>320177017
It's one of the better FE games, the gameplay is up there with FE7 and the harder difficulties are fair. I'm sure it works on Dolphin if you don't have a Wii.
>>320177017
>no Wii
Emulate it on Dolphin. Exact same experience. The motion controls on the Wii offer virtually nothing to the gameplay experience. Game is visually similar to PoR despite being on the Wii (lol) but if you enjoyed it's predecessor you'll really like the sequel.
You won't like Micaiah, though. She's the sue main character that the plot revolves around. She takes a back seat through some areas of the game though so you can always enjoy those. The supports aren't as great this time around but it's still pretty solid. Seriously give it a try, mang. It'll sate your lust until you drop forty bucks on Awakening or wait for 3DS emulation to finally take off.
>>320177141
>why is hoshido the main one that nintnedo is showing off?
The advertising is to draw in hopefully more new players therefore they should be showing off the more accessible one. More experienced players should already know whether they want Nohr.
It's like how Nintendo's advertising for 3+ games are aimed at families. There's no point in advertising for those who would be actively seeking information about the game regardless.
>>320177330
>The supports aren't as great this time around but it's still pretty solid.
You mean practically non-existent. I will say that this applies to the base conversations.
>>320176754
>not owning a Japanese 3DS as a backup so you can't get keked by NoA when shit hits the fan
How much do you like watching Tyrone knock up your woman? I want to know what it's like to live in your world.
>>320177558
Accurate.
>>320174395
So, we almost got Doki Doki Majo Shinpan for 3DS.
>>320175984
>>320177484
I'm gonna guess you meant this for >>320176802
>>320177558
Personally wouldn't say the base conversations were solid either. In RD anyone who isn't vital to the plot or didn't appear in PoR are completley fucked by the change(removal) of supports.
Ones like Edward, Leonardo, Aran, are only marginally more characterised than the NES or SNES minor characters.
>>320177141
>>320177249
>>320177330
Alright I will check it out. I have just been hearing bad things about it whenever its mentioned and thought it wasn't worth my time. Thanks.
>>320176203
And like Tharja, Camilla is the most beloved character in the entire game. Weird how that works out.
>>320177992
>In RD anyone who isn't vital to the plot or didn't appear in PoR are completley fucked by the change(removal) of supports.
Let's just go ahead and take it to the fact that they way the Dawn Brigade was handled was flimsy as fuck.
>>320178109
It's mainly about the plot when that happens and that dumbass review that knocked it down for bullshit such as not having motion control support. Though I will warn you, I believe that the difficulties in RD are not exactly how they should be/are actually a level harder than what they normally were in Japanese.
So, Nohr actually has good maps right? I don't care about waifus, I just want maps that feel like they demand careful tactics on my part.
>>320178251
>being this delusional
>>320176754
She's on the site art and that scene where her boobs sway as she holds her hands out to you is in the English dub trailer
>>320178484
Hoshido's maps are a slight bit above awakening tier, while Nohr's maps are some of the best in recent yrs, no clue on the difficulty of 3rd route's designs.
>>320178510
Yeah about that
>>320178789
heard 3rd route is full on gimmicky, for better or for worse
>>320178484
Yeah the Nohr maps are something else, all the enemies have fixed skills that never change.With some of the new ones like cut through that swaps places with the unit it attacks the designers have built chapters specifically taking these into account.
After playing it on Lunatic. I was so impressed I feel whoever designed the Nohr campaign chapters should have a pretty promiment position when it comes to gameplay design for Fire Emblem.
>>320178961
good to hear, thank you
>>320178892
>Nohrbros are 1&2
>Best protag and ultrasmug are both in top 3 as well
not bad at all
>>320178109
The plot is fairly bad by FE standards, though id say awakening took top spot in terms of lousy story. RD just gets it worse as PoR was really good by comparison. The gameplay/design however was some of the best of the series, biggest problem being some of the characters get shafted hard if you choose to level them, mainly any non-royal laguz.
>>320178789
3rd route is a clusterfuck from what I've heard. Story-wise and gameplay-wise.
>>320178905
Depends on what kind of "gimmicky" it is, if its not 100% bullshit RNG then that's fine.
>>320179382
Already know most of the spoils for 3rd route story wise, i had no expectations given the last game when it came to support convos and plot, and i was still disappointed. But having far better gameplay/map design eased that a little bit.
>>320178892
>White haired, brown skinned jizz genie not higher on the list.
Why?
>>320179382
Nohr route, as well, has a fucking retarded story.
>>320178892
>gold digging whore that high
shit taste
>>320179978
>25% STR growth
>>320180203
>implying I care about STR growth
>1 game split up and sold in 3 parts
Guess I'll just wait for price to come down
>Nintendo
>Awakening still full price
Guess I'll just pirate
>>320179136
>>320178892
>Nohrbros on top
I know who I'm joining and fucking first.
>>320180372
>Implying that Japan doesn't
>>320180372
>Using a warrior that can't deal the big dick damages
>Using waifu characters for the sole purpose of having waifus rather than being good units
How to spot a Hoshidofag
>>320180416
I'm not hurting to drop forty bucks but there's no excuse for Awakening to still be at full price at GameStop and shit. Been waiting for that bitch to drop for a while now. But it looks like 3DS emulation and chinese democracy will happen first.
>>320178892
Why is Leo popular? Is he a moody, no-nonsense jackass who occasionally fumbles and has some moe moments? That's what I'm reading from his design.
>enemies wont attack units they cant damage or hit
I hope you guys like using shitty dodge tanks instead of knights or trueblades to kite because that's all you can do in Nohr route.
>>320180597
Actually, I'll probably be picking Norh, but she is the one reason I considered picking Hoshido.
>>320180685
None of the characters are particularly deep or interesting, they're just a collection of 2-3 traits
>>320180685
I heard he's a moeblob dork so girls like him. I like him from that one comic posted here. Him and older bro are pretty cute
>>320180905
That's like 99.99% of video game characters
>>320180905
I hope you aren't implying FE has ever been anything but that.
>>320181192
Lord, no.
>>320178892
>Marx and Ryouma are in the top 10.
Good, now I don't feel bad about the upcoming split roast.
>>320180618
it will drop when its predecessor comes out, just like how X & Y discounted when omega and alpha got on.
