『FFVII リメイク』のバトルにはお馴染みのリミットブレイクも搭載。分作にした経緯にも迫る
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『ファイナルファンタジーVII リメイク』北瀬佳範氏&野村哲也氏に訊く分作の意図――バトルはATBありのアクションに!?【PSX2015】
http://www.famitsu.com/news/201512/07094721.html
>Character models are being supervised by Visual Work's director.
>The team is staying away from total realism for the designs, since it might make certain characters hard to recognize. Instead, they are going to make them as real as possible, while keeping the character's personality and design intact.
>Advent Children's model data is over ten years old, so they cannot use it, even if that were the direction the team had decided upon.
>Everything from the recent trailer, aside from the recycled E3 Trailer footage, was real-time. The end scene where Cloud gets off the train transitions directly into gameplay.
>Cloud looking sick is partly due to the lighting. Nojima thinks Cloud's sickly appearance is brilliant.
>Cross-dressing is in the game, but Nomura has yet to work on the design.
>All the party member's designs are renewed like Barret's. At first they thought of going with the Advent Children design for Barret, but decided against it.
>Both the ATB and Limit gauge are present, but work differently than in the original. The ATB turning red is particularly important.
>Battle tempo will be similar to Dissidia. Battle system is being made by people who have experience in both Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts.
>>319275196
>Nomura: "If we tried to stuff the whole game into one release, some parts of the game would have to appear as digests. We'd have to remove some of the original content from the game, and it would be especially difficult to add anything more. Considering that a full remake of the original game must be achieved, we have decided to split the game into multiple episodes."
>Kitase: "Taking the No.8 Street shown in the recent trailer, even just this is already highly dense. If we are to remake the content of the original version at that quality, it would be impossible to do with a single release. Splitting the original version into episodes with nothing dropped, as well as adding complements, and remaking the game in it's full volume is what we are thinking."
>Kitase: "Unlike the encounter battles in the original version, we're aiming for seamless, active battles like those shown in the recent trailer."
>Nomura: "Since the game is based on Final Fantasy VII, elements like the ATB Gauge and Limit Breaks will appear, but with new usage [to reflect the new combat system]. Please wait for our further announcements on how they will evolve."
>Nomura: "We are planning to dig deeper with the story in the episodes. Players who have played the original surely know everything from the beginning to the end of the game, including many very important moments. We would love to give even these players surprises."
>Kitase: "We are not going to remake a game so you only play for nostalgia. We want to make the hearts of the original fans pump. Additions will be made with this goal clear in the minds of the team."
and that's all
>>319275196
>dissidia
Dropped
>>319275196
>>Cross-dressing is in the game, but Nomura has yet to work on the design.
>Cross-dressing is in the game,
Thank god.
>>319275196
>Cross-dressing is in the game, but Nomura has yet to work on the design.
It's like the super fucking early stage of Midgar. It means they haven't done anything aside from the mission to destroy the first reactor.
>>319275196
>>Cross-dressing is in the game,
Glad to know they've got their priorities right.
>>319276501
Classic Nomura! Expect the game to be finished by 2050.
>>319276501
Nomura in a nutshell.
Expect it to come out in 2020 or if they're doing episodic, expect it to be fully linear like FF13 and ultra jewish episodic with like 7 episodes, first one ending at Midgar escape.
>>319275196
Can't wait.
>>319275196
>Battle system is being made by people who have experience in both Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts.
>elements like the ATB Gauge and Limit Breaks will appear, but with new usage [to reflect the new combat system]
so long controlling your party and hello shitty ai
>>319275196
That picture makes me I want a figure of PS1 model Cloud
>>319277314
there's probably a papercraft out there you can print out
I never played FF7, should I play it before this comes out or should I wait for the remake? Or do we not have enough info yet?
The moment they said it was to be episodic, I dropped this shit like a bad habit.
Its not that I hate episodic games necessarily, but Squenix are full Jew. Each episode will probably be a full $60 price, and I cannot abide that horse shit.
>>319277026
Yea, looking at this, I'm fairly sure Midgar is going to be the EP1. Ep2 would probably end around Nibelheim. Ep3 at the end of Disc 1. Ep 4 would End with Cloud and Tifa dropping into Livestream, and Ep5 would be the rest.
>>319276501
Nomura doesn't seem to do things in order. Early on, when the remake was first announced he said he was in the process of redrawing President Shinra.
>>319275196
Don't forget CyberConnect2 working on this
>>319277789
The actual President, or Rufus? Either way, President appears only later in Midgar, which means they actually do shit in order and haven't moved far from the first mission.
>>319277314
There was a guy selling some 3D printed ones a couple of years ago, but they shut him down because they're shitters.
>>319276501
Do you really fucking think that projects like this are getting done in linear progression? Have you ever had work? The whole game could be finished already save for that dress. This statement only shows that 3d designers still have some work to do, nothing more.
>>319278007
You can 3d print them yourself easily if you have the 3d printer.
https://3dwarehouse.sketchup.com/model.html?id=28445043f266d0f2dc537981deb9bffd
>>319277526
stick to the original. remake is garbage and you'll be waiting some 20 years to actually play all of it anyway
>>319277526
Play the remake.
The original is fucking trash.
>terrible translation
>laughable story
>shitty combat system and overall gameplay
>graphics look like ass
>3-disc system locks you from content
>boring, lifeless quests
only good thing is the music.
>>319278795
child detected. you know you need to be 18 to post right?
>>319278795
>3-disc system locks you from content
nigga what
>>319275196
Sooo are the models a work in progress then?
>>319278868
FF7 has towns which were two screens big, a map which was mostly barren, the biggest city, midgar, had only four sections. The entire world map only had about 10 towns and two major cities
fuck off
>>319278795
>>319279016
the b8 is stronk
>>319278795
>3-disc system locks you from content
Pretty sure that's exactly what episodic format is actually going to do
>>319278936
if i remember right you could load up a save with any disc but trying to play any of the story shit required certain discs. so for example you're right at the end and you load your game with disc 1 in then try to go fight sephiroth it'll tell you to put disc 3 in
>episodic
as long as they don't do the ff13 bullshit where you couldn't go back to older areas because they couldn't fit it all on the xbox disks
>>319277526
Play the original first, the remake is gonna be totally different gameplay-wise anyways and the story will be fully voiced and have new content so it'll still feel fresh enough
>episodic
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>>319279153
That's pretty unlikely, considering the world is open, unlike that of XIII.
>>319279138
if you know you're on disc 3 ready to fight Sephiroth why would you load your save into disc 1? The only "locked content" is the shit like sector 7 slums that you can't visit anymore because of story reasons
>>319277087
final fart, amirite?
>>319275196
If only cloud actually looked like the model to the right
>>319278795
The remake will have the same story.
>>319278795
I'd get it on Steam so the shitty combat and 3-disk system won't really be relevant and I'm Ok with games looking out of date
>>319277581
No fucking way, you don't think a disc for each of the originals is enough?
Even then, fuck those faggots if they try and charge full price for 3 parts of a single game.
I like FF7, but I'm not gonna get fucked just because of nostalgia.
>>319279358
i can't really remember why but i used to change between the discs a lot for some reason. it's possible i was just retarded
>>319279827
>fuck those faggots if they try and charge full price for 3 parts of a single game.
Everyone keeps saying this is going to happen, is there a source for it?
>>319279898
http://ca.ign.com/articles/2015/12/07/psx-2015-final-fantasy-7-remake-will-be-a-multi-part-series
>>319279983
>No additional details were provided, including any kind of price
Action fags getting blown the fuck out. Enjoy your episodes fags.
if the multi part shit becomes a thing I'm fucking done with games for ever. absolutely fucking retarded fuck you square enix
>>319280042
do you not know what multi part series means? it means they are gonna to split up the game and sell it to you piece by piece so of course each piece will be the same as a full priced game
>>319280428
It was already retarded enough with movies. Doing things in parts is just fucking stupid. Finish it all at once, or get the fuck out.
>>319280773
but anon how will they make money?
>>319280150
This is the game the actionfags deserve. Literally a bunch of episodes each with a corridor filled with enemies with different skin and CGI everywhere.
Im fine with episodic thing, better then rushed and cut contend.
>>319280806
Finishing it all at once and releasing it.
>>319280976
>implying it isnt coming after disarmament
>>319280976
Your example isn't really good considering they sold ground zeroes to us.
>>319281046
but that's less money, how will their children eat?
>>319279898
No but judging by modern business practices, it's quite likely. Companies are just so greedy now. So much so that's just what everyone believes by default.
>>319279153
The limitation the xbox discs had were for the cutscenes not the game itself
XIII-2 and LR were on one disc only and that's because they had less FMVs
Exactly the same as the ps1 FF games
>>319275196
>Battle system is being made by people who have experience in both Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts.
>>319281931
they couldn't include older areas too in later disks
>>319277526
Seriously
>>319278795
this
You are absolutely better off waiting for the remake. Despite what they will tell you, FFVII had garbage gameplay and the remake will almost certainly improve this.
>>319282072
Any proof?
Besides how could you backtrack in XIII anyway?
Think about the first 2 chapters, the fal'cie gets destroyed and blows up the setting of both chapters 1 and 2
>>319275196
>Battle's are like Kingdom Hearts and Dissidia
So it's an action JRPG confirmed.
Nothing like the original.
Thanks.
>>319280941
And when it turns out it has more content and you can backtrack to your heart's content, I'll accept what I have brought upon us all.
>>319282120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
>Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts
So it's confirmed mashing the same button constantly so it looks cool and requires no skill.
>>319282259
There is nothing you can do to deny the gameplay was bad, aside from the awesomeness that is collecting materia.
>>319282321
That is literally the exact opposite of what was said in the interview.
>>319276501
you're a fucking dumbfuck and everyone that agrees with you are dumbfucks too and no nothing about how games are made. fuck you
>>319282204
you couldn't backtrack because they designed the game without backtracking in mind because of the xbox 360 version, it was said in an interview, /v/ had multiple threads about it back in the day
>confirmed ARPG
God willing, turn based games will die in my lifetime.
>>319282397
No shit, they aren't going to say that the gameplay will have the depth of a rain puddle in an interview hyping the game up.
>>319282441
The x360 was a rushed port
It ran at fucking 576p because they didn't care they just wanted MS money
I think that what's happening is this:
1) First episode is just Midgar
2) Changing the story means that they are now whitewashing Reno to not be an unapologetic mass murderer, and make it more in line with the wacky hijinks in later parts of the game.
Ok summarized
>Episodic releases
AKA
>Cutting up a game from 1998 into multiple releases in 2015
>Action RPG confirmed
>Cinematic combat
>Cinematic cutscenes AKA hit X to dodge train / slide through
>Original composer not included
>Confirmed plot rewrites
>Anorexic Cloud, dev says it's "lighting and cool"
what else did I miss?
>>319275196
Im fine with episodic as long as you can return to areas from previous episodes...
>>319282773
cloud was supposed to look sick in the original as well. when he got to midgar he'd barely recovered from the mako poisoning.
this is after kicking sephiroth's ass like a week(?) prior, and all that shit with zack, the purpose of leveling him up on disk1 was getting his strength back.
i'm willing to bet he will look more like the brawl design / original concept art by the second episodic release, and more like AC cloud by the third.
>>319282785
You can't.
Each episode takes place in a different city.
>>319283014
>this is after kicking sephiroth's ass like a week(?) prior
Cloud and Zack spent 4 years being experimented on by Hojo.
>>319283196
[Citation needed]
>>319280941
So fucling salty
>>319275196
>>Advent Children's model data is over ten years old
Aleady?
>No overworld pretty much confirmed
By releasing it episodically there's no chance there's going to be a world map..
Why even live, what's happening to gaming? It's like companies can't be bothered anymore. The moment I seen the trailer all took place in Reactor/Midgar I knew something like this would happen.
I've been replaying the original and as much as I didn't want to think it, I was constantly asking myself "how would they do this part etc" because it would actually take them years. I guess they just want a quick cash in rather than taking the time to do it right.
>>319281527
After the game awards I don't think there's anyone who thinks that.
>>319283649
Who cares about the world map?
I'd rather they focus on the towns, Midgar, and the combat
Wondering around the world map was a waste of time 20 years ago and it'd be a waste of time now
>>319283940
You need to be over the age of 18 to come here.
>>319283940
>Who cares about the world map?
I don't give a shit if this is bait, I am legitimately angry right now.
>>319284046
Actually, he's right. World maps were the product of limitations, not some hardcore serious business feature.
They used to be considered signs of bigger playworlds back in later 80s and early 90s, but today when even games with an average budget have seamless worlds, they are actually quite a cop-out.
Saying that overworlds are a sign of hardcore game design is like saying that JRPG/Wizardry-type seperate-screen random encounters are a sign of hardcore game design.
>>319276501
>>319282401
This.
/v/ is getting more and more angry at anything and everything to the point there's no reason to come here but to bitch anymore. Bitching is fine because modern gaming has issues and having standards is good, but /v/ "standards" are console wars and craving disasters so we can have a new tortanic every month.
Guess I'm indeed too old for this place. A pity everywhere else is moderated hugboxes shitholes. A pity /v/ is not a decent alternative anymore.
>/v/ hating on every little thing as usual
IT'S KEWL 2 B MAD!!!1
EPISODES? HAHAHAHAHAHA
You fucking idiots. I pity the moron who buys this shit
>>319284046
World Maps were used 100% due to computing limitations. They couldn't make a huge seamless world, so World Maps were there to give a cartoonish but effective enough perception of a big world, even though it really was a tiny ass map your huge ass ship or character walked around in.
In Final Fantasy everytime you went into an area it became the "FF13 linear" style. That was the case in 7, 8, 9, 10, etc.
>>319283940
The highwind will just be the same as the airship in FFX. It'll be a hub with a shit 2D map to move to different areas
>No world map exploring
>No chocobo farming/breeding
>No buggy fun
>No submarine exploration
>>319284750
/v/ is just a 2nd reddit now, without the usernames.
>>319283940
>who cares about the world map?
Fucking kill yourself.
>>319285272
>Actually wanting a cop out instead of a seamless experience
Why on earth would anyone actually want a world map?
>>319284046
I'm 20
Wandering around and wasting time is what Bethesda makes you do because they can't into good gameplay and just make you walk for hours
If the atmosphere is good than I even like it but the ff7 world map was barren as fuck and if they remake it in scale it'd be a nightmare to make and traverse
>>319284184
>>319285272
>>319285086
I seem to have been misunderstood
World maps are just padding to make the game seem bigger than it is
>>319285498
>I seem to have been misunderstood
>World maps are just padding to make the game seem bigger than it is
This statement does nothing to help you, underagefriend.
>>319285498
>I'm 20
Well there's your problem. You weren't there to play the game at the time of its original release, games and the standards have come along way since then I don't disagree but this is a remake that people want to stay as close to the original as possible.
>>319285750
There's no way to make a world map in the context of the remake.
Do ppl not know what they ask for? ITS A REMAKE, not a remaster. We already got remaster, we already got the original. How in the fuck would you make a cartoonish "spherical" World Map in a modern game with modern graphics. If the Remake had PS1 tier models, sure, but now?? It would be an utter failure!! You guys have no idea what you're talking about OR what you actually want. And no, I'm probably older than you.
The only ppl who actually think those old limitations are "superior" or anything worth bringing back are either hipster underage "wrong generation" kids or naive adults with very thick nostalgia glasses.
>>319285498
anon,
>>319285750
is correct.
I love the Stones but have no real appreciation for their contributions at their prime.
>>319285750
I was there at the time of original release and I loved FF7's overworld, but not because it was good. I liked it because I was young and ignorant. I thought that was what good felt like.
He's right, though. FF7's overworld is barren and dull, and it's also ugly as fuck. I'm nostalgic for it and all, I can sit down and play the theme on the piano, but there's no reason to keep it in a remake. It's great in our memory, but in reality is really fucking droll and entirely worthless.
>>319286181
The World Map wasn't a "contribution that should be appreciated and brought back". At all. AT THE TIME everybody saw it for what it was. A limitation. It's only NOW that hipster "adults" claim it as something great.
>>319286264
hi anon, as a 32 year old owner of FF7 on december 24th, 1997, I would like to reject your assumption.
FF7 was, for many the 1st experience with an actual open world in 3d. few, if any saw a limitation, many saw a "new era" in gaming, and, to varying degrees of hyperbole, they were correct. For better or worse, overworld maps paved the way for sandboxes like the PS2 era GTA's then modern 7th gen open worlds you are probably more familiar with.
Does the remake need one? No idea. Closed hubworlds and an empty open world both seem unattractive at this point.
Regardless, your stance on FF7 "at the time" (if being 20, you were, 2?) is wrong.
>>319286713
I agree
That's why the overworld needs to go
It would be underwhelming as fuck
Type 0 did it, do you want that?
I know I don't
I'd rather have a KH like system. Something like how dragon age does it would be fantastic
>>319279857
>complaining you need the disc you are on to load the save data
Yes you are fucking retarded
>>319286176
are you fucking retarded? do you even know what the fuck a world map is?
>>319287951
if you'd have actually read the conversation you'd know i'm not complaining at all
>>319280976
>Im fine with episodic thing, better then rushed and cut contend.
how about not episodic, not rushed, and no cut content? why do we have to make compromises?
>>319290207
I agree with you. If you are gonna Jew me, just charge me 120$ up front instead of thinking you are tricking me into buying 4 30$ episodes
>>319290498
yep, thought exactly the same
>Both the ATB and Limit gauge are present, but work differently than in the original. The ATB turning red is particularly important.
>Battle tempo will be similar to Dissidia. Battle system is being made by people who have experience in both Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts.
>Here's this thing you wanted in game but it doesn't really work it's just there to sucker you into buying it goyim.
I'm mostly over it being a mockery of FF7 that abandoned the original fans for KH kids, but the way they continually keep poking the original fans still irritates me greatly. It's like that faggot Nomura knows he's trolling the fuck out of us.
>>319277581
>5 episodes.
No fucking way!
3 episode is enough.
>>319290695
The ATB in 7R is a reverse version of the ATB from LR
It's basically FF12 mixed with reverse LR ATB
It's not really anything like KH, and Dissidia has a turn based mode.
I think the best way to deal with this remake is not keep track of it at all, not read any news and not watch any trailers.
I'll keep myself blind from anything related to it because, while I wasn't expecting anything, I still got disappointed with the info we got in these past two days. From the actionized trailer to this episodic format.. Jesus, this won't go well at all. Why not just remake it in the same molds of Crisis Core and Type-0? I swear to God that SQE's problems are due their boner for photorealistic graphics and maximum detail for everything.
>>319291034
I don't like anything past 9.
>Advent Children's model data is over ten years old, so they cannot use it, even if that were the direction the team had decided upon.
What does this even mean, data doesn't degrade.
The designs were really different from the FF7 ones, so that seems more of a hurdle than "the data is old".
>>319291347
Japanese devs have a habit for tossing their shit once they finish development
What music is the one that plays in the recent trailer? Sounds cool, haven't played the original
>>319275196
>Cross-dressing is in the game, but Nomura has yet to work on the design.
I like how this is of utmost importance.
>>319275196
I hope the materia system in this game will be somewhat like an updated version of what magic was in KH: Birth by Sleep.
>>319281242
Disarmament was already achieved.
