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You either die a shitposter or you live long enough to become a Uchi defender

Memes and shit aside, what does /v/ really think about Zero Time Dilemma?
Vote http://www.strawpoll.me/10670353
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'scool
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It was a great game, but flawed nonetheless
If Uchi lets ZE rest in peace and makes a new IP I'd be very happy
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>I was only 67 years old
>But in my 22 year old body
>I loved Zero so much, I owned all the watches and bracelets
>I play Decision Games every night, thanking him for the life I'm about to lose
>"His motives are complex", I say, "Life is unfair"
>My dad hears me and calls me a faggot
>He is obviously jealous of my devotion to Zero
>I called him a cunt
>He slaps me and sends me to another timeline
>I am crying now, because my face hurts in the previous timeline
>I get injected and forget the previous 90 minutes
>I feel a warmth moving towards me
>I fell something touch me
>It's Zero (Q (Delta))
>I am so happy
>He whispers into my ear, "Why? Because of a snail."
>He mind hacks me puts me on my hands and knees
>I'm ready
>I solve puzzles for Zero
>He transports me with an alien device
>It makes no sense, but I do it for Zero
>I can feel my other selves dying as he kills my dog
>I try to prevent the deaths of six billion people
>I want to please Zero
>He laughs a mighty laugh as he tosses me a gun
>My dad walks in
>Zero looks him deep in the eyes and says, "Plaudite, acta est fabula. "
>Zero leaves as the walls reveal it was all one ward
Zero is love, Zero is life.
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>>343886559
Anon... I... He never intended to resolve them
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Which ZE has the most slutty face? And which would you do /d/ tier things to?
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So who wins in a fight between Chainsaw Akane and Axe Clover?
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MIND HACK, muthafucka.
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I feel kinda cucked for playing the game with Japanese voices. It seemed like it would've been more fun with the English voices.

Doesn't help that Sawashiro is yet voicing another person in this game. So fucking sick of her. I don't mind based Sugita though.
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>>343886837

chainsaw beats axe
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>>343886837
axe carlos won against akane
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Action TPS spin-off featuring these two, when?
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>>343886559

You really thought we would get All-Ice explanation after all this time? It was just a fucking red herring, get over it.

The shit with Kyle shouldn't be dropped, though.
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>>343886934
Carlos is an All-American hero, he wins by default.
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>>343886909
The english VA were hit and miss, but hits were amazing. Junpei and Skullface knocked it out of the park. It's clear they were just hamming it up.
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>I know, I'll cum inside just so I could watch my newborn children slowly die from starvation.
>But it's all worth it because their clones will travel in time and space and become bond villains or something, I don't know.
>Hey, Diana, I'm kinda tired of all the screaming, let's affectionally strangle our children so they don't have to suffer anymore, you ok with that?
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>>343886859
Well, they don't say what happens to Ace after R6 hits, but they do mention he's still in prison.
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>>343886859
>shit, I hadn't even thought of that
>JUST WAIT FOR THE 3RD GAME, GUYS
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>>343887068
>Implying huge slut Diana didnt beg for the creampie because she loves the pleasure of being cummed inside.
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>>343886837

Clover uses deception to kill with axe, whereas Akane swings this motherfucker like a stick. Guess she was doing push-ups instead of sudokus as a child.

Akane wins all the way.

Also, regarding sudokus - WHY THE FUCK WAS THERE NO SUDOKU JOKE IN THIS GAME? Like C-Team having to solves sudoku and Akane being like 'y-yeah Carlos, you solve it while I'm in the other corner having a panic attack'.

Or Jumpei interrpupting her explanation about parasites and saying if she would only solves some sudokus as a child instead of reading all that crap, that would really save everyone a lot of trouble.
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>>343887235
So many missed opportunities.
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>>343887094
I understood that reference.
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>>343886909
I'm just glad to hear my girl Chiaki. world needs more of her.
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>Who do you guys Zero could be?
>Maybe it's that extremely specific serial killer in the news that just happens to be in the nevada desert and has a nuclear shelter
Even Danganronpa did this better, holy fuck.
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>>343886837
This reminds me, how the fuck are they going to handle the last scene when they port 999 to PC? Do you have to flip your fucking monitor upside down?
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I don't care how "foreshadowed" it was, the main villain being a dude that was sitting off-screen the whole time was pathetic and amateurish.
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>>343887381
Delta wasn't the serial killer though?
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>>343887381
But Zero wasn't that serial killer bro
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>>343887482
It felt like the game pulled a MGS on me, but only more retarded.
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>>343887482
>everyone expects me to make cool twists
>I will try to make a cool unexpected twist
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>>343887413
Akane starts Steam messaging Junpei in the corner of the screen and then you have to use the Broadcasting functionality of Steam and invite her to watch to help her.
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>>343887484
>>343887505
That's the conversation between Mira, Eric and Sean. Theu foreshadow the serial killer thing in the least subtle possible way by saying that maybe that serial killer they saw in the news was Zero.
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I just happened to guess at Q's fragment the correct answer, and then the camera shifted to do the reveal.

It actually hurt me physically.
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>>343886859

>first thing

We now Snake worked with Clover and Alice in that psychic agency and about those 45 years, it really doesn't matter. It's an erased timeline. We also didn't get info about what happend to Quark or if Dio will come to existence. Deal with it. Same with Ace, we know what he is doing, but it's not important what he does in erased future timeline

And given that Delta is 125 year old he could have easily started Free the Soul in 1930s or even earlier. Age doesn't even matter to him, since he uses minds of others around him, not his own. He could have as wellstarted FtS at age 2 or 3, I shit you not.
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>>343886380
>Dio
>Beloved
Maybe if you're a complete retard.
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>>343887710
But Mira is the killer.
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>>343887773
Dio is loved for how utterly hateable he is. You go in thinking, "this guy seems like a dick, but I bet there's something more complicated than that to him" but nope, he's just a fucking dick, and that's what makes him good.
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>>343887773
FUZAKERUNA
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>>343887068
>I know, I'll cum inside just so I could watch my newborn children slowly die from starvation.

Being cummed inside is an act of pure, innocent love. Diana pretty much regained her virginity after Sigma impregnated her.

>>343887215

>implying Diana is a slut

Diana is pure! PURE! Her ex-husband was forcing her to have sex, when all she ever wanted was to hold hands. She allows Sigma to fuck her because she understands his needs and wants to keep him happy.
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lmao I was there the whole time you didn't see me XD
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>>343887832
It stops being good about 10 minutes in and turns into "this guy is so much of a dick I can't believe no one has punched his shit in yet".
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>>343887684

That would be amazing.
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>>343887773
He's just such an absolute, unrepentant scumbag. I can't help but like him.
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>>343887659
Oh fuck.
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>>343887745
I physically recoiled the first time the words "mind hack" were spoken

>>343887773
Love to hate
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>>343887773

Dio was great. So entertaining. Of course he was an asshole, but an asshole we loved to hate.

For comparission, Eric, on the other hand, was just a retarded asshole and he can fuck off.
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I can't be the only one super dissapointed in how Dr. Klim got al busted up, right?

Like I was totally expecting D team to have to constantly choose between doing something terrible or lopping off another bit of Sigma Lisa-style or something, but no it's just a single boom and all his bits are gone. Super lame, should've had more decisions in the game than just "do this and x dies or this and y dies"
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>>343888054
ehh something similiar was done already
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The moment Alien tech appeared, I was cautious.
The moment the words MIND HACK were uttered, I was already laughing my ass off. This game felt like a parody of the I/O, Infinity, plotwist and metaphysics filled VNs.

I really think this was a piss take. There's no way to see it otherwise. There's even a moment where they point at the screen and go "ZERO WAS.... YOU!".
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>>343888250
>Pony Island

Hmm, would've tried it if the sales was't over.
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>>343886859
Most of these could've been solved with short notes in the archives. No idea why they left these VLR loose ends unresolved. Now they're going to spill over the ZTD Q&A
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>>343888162
Can someone post the local man won't shut up about snails one
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I'm seriously getting tired of this 'Diana is a slut' meme

Is it because she wanted to sleep with Sigma?

Have a family photo.
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>>343888452
she probably does the "getting drunk and asking sex from strangers routine" in weekly basics.
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>>343886909
Junpei's seiyuu was a surpise for me, really liked him, also
>Sugita
>Daisuke Ono
>Delta being Gendo / Kaiji's narrator

fucking great
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>>343888452
Because you're a """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""cuckold""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""" if you ever want a woman that lost her virginity. Duh.
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>>343886965

If we can get AYY LMAO ALIENS and
MIND HACKS MUTHAFUCKA we can also get explanations for All-Ice/Lord Godain and Left/the Myrmidons/Free the Soul, no matter how silly they might be.
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(1/3)
Just finished this game and God almighty am I disappointed. Not only that but it left a sour taste in my mouth for the whole series, like a Taiwanese hooker who was ordered to peg her customer with her tongue

Literally the only team I enjoyed was C team and even though I though Carlos would be an annoying Chad Thundercock, he's actually probably my favorite out of the bunch. Q team is literally pointless. Mira is just a random psycho, Eric is her beta Shaggy from Scooby Doo looking motherfucker and Q is just the child quota. Like they couldn't reveal at the end that Q stood for Quark and that he's somehow him BECAUSE FUCK CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT FOR NON EXISTING CHARACTERS, YOU LIKE HIM AND YOU LIKE CLOVE BECAUSE I SAID SO. WHY COULDN'T THEY JUST REPLACE Q TEAM WITH CLOVER ALICE AND QUARK INSTEAD OF CREATING DUMB CHARACTERS NOBODY LIKES, DEVELOP YOUR OLD SHITTY ONES SO THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE FILLER. Damn, seriously fuck that team.
And then D team, oh D team. Even though Sigma and Phi were my favorite part of VLR, now they're just "there". They bring nothing to the plot, Sigma is just muscles and Phi is a massive cunt that dies. And not!Luna is just Luna but acts irrationally and acts like a bitch from time to time

I feel like the art style really hurt this game. They took it from standard visual novel stuff to "wooshy washy, ugly 3D models that blab about for 20 minutes" and it hurt the narrative. Maybe if it wasn't PSP crap it wouldn't be so bad, but it was way better to have portraits, the MC explaining what's going on trough monologue and the occasional scene they decide to draw
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>>343888662
(2/3)
Another thing that bothered me was the music. Sure it's a budget game, I liked the music from the old games, but this time around it feels wildy inappropriate. The music doesn't set the tone as much now as it's something that plays in the background because of how boring the dialogue is. Maybe it fit in a scene or two, but it didn't make me feel anxious. Even the *beep* *beep* *beep* while spooky music is playing in the background from VLR made me feel more emotion than what anything this game has to offer

The game isn't even bad for the most part, but shit hits the fan in Dianna's ending
Oh God, why did they have to include the part where Dianna and Sigma fuck and have a cringeworthy birth scene. I don't see how they even fell in love besides Dianna lusting for his mega cock.
So that happens and then it just keeps going and going and going

and then it happens
at one point (I don't remember at this point since I just want to forget this game even happened already) some fucking grandpa stands up from his wheelchair and everyone starts paying attention to him as if he literally didn't exist before, despite him supposedly being around them constantly which is the dumbest fucking plot device ever, Sigma not realizing he was 70 was more believable than this. And he's also Zero and he can read minds and he's straight out of fucking Naruto with his purple and black eyes.
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>>343888662

(2/3)

I also learned of something called blogspot, and I will finish my blog entry there. Cheerio, everyone!
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The short ambidex game part in ZTD made me realize how much I miss it. I didn't feel any sort of suspense at all playing ZTD. Waiting for the results in VLR made it really fun.
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>>343888730
(3/3)
and then they bumble the fuck around for another hour until they decide "yeah, this whole game actually ended in the first 5 minutes ad this pointless clusterfuck of a story didn't even happen"
oh and normal people can jump trough time too, it's just stuff in your brain that does stuff and if you're around people with anime powers you get those anime powers too
and that scene where they reunite with Phi again, it sends shivers down my spine just thinking about it, why did he have to bring creepy incest into this, what is the point, way to ruin your best characters...

and Radical-6 is just such a small thing, they don't even pay it any attention
How did it spread trough the world? Well Mira was a cunt and injected them with it.

AND HOW DOES THIS INTENSE TRILOGY END?
"WITH THE POWER OF MY NAKAMA, WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD!"


shitty japanese hack
doujins about goats being fucked have better stories than this
please never make a game again
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>>343888662
>>343888730
>>343888793

didn't read lol
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>>343888638
>wanting used goods
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>>343888573
>Junpei's voice actor also voiced Noctis.

Well fuck, that explains the familiarity.
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>>343888662
>>343888730
>>343888793
Don't worry the Q&A will fix everything
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>>343887413
The port (Is it even a port now that it adds voice acting?) is going to only be one screen, so the entire top screen bottom screen gimmick isn't even going to be there in the first place.
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>GET TO PART WHERE I HAVE TO TELL ERIC ZERO'S NAME
>GUESS THAT IT'S DELTA BASED ON THE SHIT ZERO TOLD JUNPEI AND AKANE
>IT ACTUALLY WORKED
>SOME OLD NIGGA IN A WHEELCHAIR RANDOMLY APPEARS LIKE HE WAS THERE THE WHOLE TIME
>IM CONFUSED AS FUCK AND STILL HAVE THE BIG ASS TIMELINE TO THE LEFT OF FLOWCHART TO COMPLETE

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON? AM I EVEN SUPPOSED TO BE AT THIS POINT SINCE I GUESSED?
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>>343888378
Probably be blown off just like they were in the VLR Q&A.
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>>343888542
this, lots of one night stands were probably likely.
That, and getting beaten immediately makes her horny. That's honestly not very attractive when coming from a battered person.
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>>343888452

>ugh daaaaad, can you put me down now
>mom, my white hair isn't part of my rebel phase and I definitely won't grow out of it
>people keep mistaken my mom and dad for my siblingss when we go out! lameville!
>my dad is tall and my mother is busty! what kind of epigenetics made me short and flat?! Life is truly unfair
>I miss my Brother
>ugh, I keep hearing my mom begging dad for sex every night! what is wrong with this woman? it's soooo disgustin!
>if we take anymore time with this photo, I'm gonna be late for my kickboxing practice
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>>343889009
the left timeline is the final timeline.
Congrats you arent a retard
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>>343887659
>The aliens were the good guy all along
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I hope people read my wall of text
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>>343888876
>that's what virgins actually believe
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>>343889009
I don't think anyone deduced that an old guy on a wheelchair was there the whole time. Yes there were hints but I can't recall anyone saying they pieced it together before entering the name.
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>>343889218
least my waifu isn't a slut
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>>343889056
>we didn't even get a payoff with Sigma and Diana making phi grow her hair red again
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>>343888662
>>343888730
>>343888793

an enticing read, actually. the line about 'some fucking grandpa standing up' was amazing.

I don't agree with everything you said, but you are in the right with some things. Still, I liked this game and definitely liked the Standed Pair segment.
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Waifus in ZTD are not very good:
Diana is boring as fuck.
Phi is almost non-existant.
Mira and Akane are alright, but completely overshadowed in their routes by Eric and Carlos.
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>>343889297

I felt some things were off, mostly

>no Q portrait in Dead/Alive menu
>'Q' not being dead on the X-Com board after getting stabbed by Mira in one ending
>Eric shooting 3 times to kill just 2 people, I thought he also killed Gab but then Gab was alive and well besides him

but that was all. I didn't suspect 10th person to be there with them
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>>343889482

Good. Thansk to that, I can make my own fanfiction with them.
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>>343888793
Don't bother the shitposting faggots who can't be bothered to read a post that is not memes, this was a good read and you're completely right
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>>343887413
>Top screen stuff will be voiced
>bottom won't be
>Towards the end
>"he knows..." appears as text
>Suddenly voice acted 'because I know'
That's the best way I can imagine
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I'm actually starting to embrace the 'Diana is a slut' meme.

The thought of her being all prime, sweet and proper during SHIFTer meetings, but going full nympho mode when Sigma and her get home, jumping his bones and riding his monster cock for 10 hours straight seems really great.
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>>343889009
You apparently didn't notice the hints that there's a 4th person in that team.

I got it prematurely too by guessing (since the stranded pair ending was the 3rd one i got) and really thought it broke the 4th wall and that you (the player) is zero.

I was playing the game for 25 hours straight at that point and really fucked me up.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10670353/
It's official. /v/ likes ZTD even if we don't think it's perfect
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I apologize for ZTD Zero

We deliberately trained him wrong, as a joke
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>>343888793
>doujins about goats being fucked have better stories than this

i fuckin lol'd
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>>343890020

you should let people choose which games they think are better/worse than ZTD

for me it's VLR>ZTD>999, but I had to pick the first option, 'on par with other games'
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>>343888006
I liked that he was so fucked up that individuality seemed weird to him. I wanted to see more of that dio.
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>>343890075
He was better than Akane and Sigma. His motives were much complex.
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>>343890075
why did u become a retard in ZTD

why were u out keikakued by skullface
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>>343890151
Yeah. I didn't want too many options
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>>343890075
akane go suck Junpei's dick
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>>343890020
It was on par with the others. It had more characters and storylines that i liked than 999 desu.
VLR > ZTD > 999

The only disappointment for me was no mindfuck endgame puzzle rooms.
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>No, señor Carlos. I expect you to SHIFT.
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>>343890075
Made this in 30 seconds
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how does that mexican standoff scene make ANY SENSE with the existence of delta

goddamn i mean i could see sean being relunctant to shoot a deaf blind old man but mira and eric should have defaulted to him
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WHERE THE FUCK WAS LEFT
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>>343890448
That fucking freak with the helmet ran off to get his crossbow
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>>343890448
Sean pointed at Mira first (??), so Eric's gun went to Sean obviously
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>>343890205
I agree, ZTD Zero was such a complex character, its only natural that the simple minded cannot accept him.
If only Akane or Sigma could have even half the complexity of ZTD Zero, maybe they'd be better games.
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>>343890478
Prepare for anons who will tell you that you shouldn't expect answers from a four year old Q&A.
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wow this game was so complex
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>>343890448
Sean was protecting Q from Carlos.
Thats how I saw it.
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>>343890478
lel let's make a full look like dio character, those faggets will think he's the bad one
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>>343890478
blame VLR for introducing stuff not ZTD for not explaining it
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>>343890712
If only Sigma and his AK didnt ruin the mexican standoff
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>>343890742
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DON'T WORRY GUYS LET'S SHIFT TO THE TIMELINE WHERE WE FAIL THE DICE ROLL, I'VE GOT A PLAN
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>>343890810
He's got a point. A game should be satisfactory in its own regard. If you don't like ZTD because of the previous game, then it is at least partially to blame.
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>>343890887
How about we shift to the timeline where you pass me that Axelavir bro
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>>343890887
akane started
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I'm only sad she didn't have as much dialogue lines as in VLR.

Still, she's the best girl 2 games in a row.
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Its real
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>>343890919
I was shitposting to be honest, it's totally fair to blame the conclusion of a trilogy for not covering things introduced in the middle entry
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>>343891314

Looks like a giant tenga egg
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>>343890020
Noooo, that can't be. Those votes must be some shitposter apologist proxying and spamming the votes over and over. This game is shit! I can't believe people enjoy it!!
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>>343891342
Yeah. But it is a semi-valid argument. Its fair to blame ZTD, but it's also partly the fault of VLR for leaving it open and making it seem like it'll be brought up. Especially in the case of the Kyle epilouge
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>>343891314
this thing would make a great sex toy
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Why is Akane such an unlikable character? Seriously, she's manipulative and uses coldly in 999, while still maintaining that she's in the right. Then she becomes some kind of hero in VLR, even though she's exactly the same as before; a manipulative witch. The ending in ZTD where she stabs Junpei with the memory erasing drugs just so she can use him in the future is only proof of that. Yet in ZTD she's this big fucking contrarian whiny bitch, always complaining to Junpei that you can't just kill people, and that it's wrong even though she's done it in the past herself, those guys didn't fucking eat bombs by themselves after all. I mean even when they know they're SHIFTers and Junpei sacrifices himself and Carlos for her so she can get the last X-Pass, I mean, fucking really. She gets so pissy about that, and I mean sure, I can understand it being traumatizing to see a loved one die in front of you-- except you know it's not your loved one and he isn't actually going to die, and again, the whole thing of killing people and seeing blood and guts before so... why the fuck am I typing this? I hate this bitch so much, because I know there really are people in this world as selfish yet righteous as she. What a well written, bitch.
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>>343891523
You got me. I can't allow people to not like the things I don't like so I rigged it to make me feel better about my insecurities
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the ztd hype is dead
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>mfw reading the archives and just found out that 999 and VLR actually bombed in Japan

Fuck, guys.
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>>343892442
It's shit game, after all. What did you expect?
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>>343892568
Fucking shit taste nips
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>>343892442
Yeah, these threads are slowly but surely dying.
>>343890020
I'm surprised the Zero Kyle Dilemma isn't getting more jokes for the meme factor.
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>>343892568
jap players only like teen protagonist with cazy hair and little gore
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So what are the hints the game gives you that there's a 4th member of team Q?
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>>343893235
There's like a shadow here and there, but he's invidible to cameras.
Oh, and he's referenced once in the game.
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>>343893235

It's a Decision Game instead of a nonary game.
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>>343892568
>Make 999
>West likes it but it sells poorly in Japan
>Pander further to the Japanese audience with VLR by toning down the violence have their favorite character return
>Modernize it with 3D graphics instead of sprites
>Game bombs even harder in Japan
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Just completed the game in less than a day and... That's it? That's everything? Didn't feel like a proper conclusion at all. Is there some kind of secret ending I haven't gotten yet?
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>>343893492
It will all make sense once you play ZE4.
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>>343893235
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>>343893235
You can catch glimpse of his shadow, other characters sometimes mention an "old man".
No one calls Sean "Q".
The X-pass for Q is released before Sean dies at one point.
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>>343893492
>he didnt get another side/another story mode
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>>343893492
To clarify what ending did you get? The eye?

Because it wrapped up everything that it brought to the table.
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>>343890020

I enjoyed the game itself, I did not like that this is what we got as the end of the Zero Escape series. I'm not sure where would I vote though.
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>>343886736
CUTE!
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>>343891549

>Yeah, you and Phi will go back in time 40 years and prevent everything from happening, but we will still live in a fucked up world!
>There is a way to solve it: Schrödinger's...
>...cat!

The Kyle epilogue was a mistake.
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>>343893492
>Completed the game in less than a day

You know that there are fragments after the coin toss?
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>>343886736
>can replicate 999 events perfectly
>can't tell herself that Brother is an old fuck because f-fragmented information
>acts like a retard the whole game because 'she is not the one in control this time'
Can't wait for Uchi to tell us se was only pretending to be retarded.
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How do I play VLR without a vita or 3ds? Can it be emulated?
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>>343893825
The eye, yeah. I guess it did wrap up everything but the way it ended feels too abrupt. And we don't know if Mira is caught or not.

>>343894245
Yeah, I completed the flowchart.
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>>343894395
wait for pcrelease
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>>343894410
Mira ended in jail
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>>343886946
Soon I hope, I want to see them being more effective than Akane and Sigma with their 45 years of planning in fighting FtS. The irony just kills me.

Life is simply unfair.
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>>343894395
It's getting ported, you'll have to wait for that.
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>>343894410
Check your files. There are some epilogue things to read. Nothing for best team other than some depressing stuff from the VLR timeline unfortunately.
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>>343889009
Dude they tell you that there are ten people way before that, remember the anagram Akane made. Together with me, we are ten?
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So uh was delta there from the start with each group or something? I don't really understand this part.
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>>343894837
Delta was with Q-Team the whole time. He is Q.
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>>343894837
He was always there with group Q. Every reference someone makes to Q is to him. No one ever calls Sean that.
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>>343894837
>>343893582
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>>343894837
Delta was the regular 4th participant, part of team q named after him.
Sean is the tenth participant and this fact was only known to team q
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>>343891683
Akane wanted to be a good person this time since it's her fault that Junpei became an edgemaster. She hints at that in the pantry. Still she shows her true colors when she starts doing the manipulative crazy stuff like blowing the Reactor.
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so i just removed all my ztd filters after completing it (i think, i got all the endings at least).

i thought it was pretty great, horror was better than the first, twists were not on par with the second, but pacing was great imo.

i have two spoiler questions
who was in kyle's body at the end of VLR?
did sigma really bring kyle back to the DCOM test site? if so who was kyle?
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>>343895203
dropped
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>game ends with zero giving carlos a choice to kill him or not
>nothing happens after this
>literally nothing from the past games get answered
Am I missing something here? I just beat the game like 10 minutes ago and I'm confused as fuck. tfw I liked VLR better
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>>343895203
Kyle is a dropped plotline
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>>343895203
1) Gab

3) Gab
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>Sigma tried to replicate Diana in Luna as closely as he could
>but chose to make Luna a pure maiden, whereas Diana was a divorcee

Sigma really couldn't deal with Diana's past, I bet her ex-husband must have been a monster in bed. She must have said the wrong name many times.

>OH FUCK YES, FUCK ME, CHAD! FUCK MY WORTHLESS CUNT!
>D-Diane, this really isn't-
>OH SHUT THE FUCK UP SIGMA, I'M SO CLOSE, DON'T YOU FUCKING DARE RUIN THIS FOR ME! AH, YES, YES, CHAD! HARDER, FASTER, HIT ME! CHOKE ME! SPIT ON ME! I'M YOUR COCKSLEEVE CHAD! YOUR'S AND NO ONE'S ELSES!
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>>343895203
>pacing was great
what makes you say that? Admittably it might be partially might fault from the "completitionist" perspective that I tried to balance out the progression down the timelines and made sure I did both votes for every team at the start which resulted in a horribly paced story


we have no answers to either of those questions, if anything you could argue that we have even more plotholes about kyle as he seems to not exist in ZTD
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>>343895319
well anon, what past questions do you want answerd?
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>>343895404
>but chose to make Luna a pure maiden, whereas Diana was a divorcee
Well, duh. How do you make a robot a divorcee?
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>>343895447
Fuck I don't know. I just feel empty inside now.
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>>343887068
>Believing that impregnation can be prevented by pulling out

Pre-cum can cause women to get pregnant too. So even if Sigma was really careful he could get unlucky as it only takes 1 sperm and then he has new baby twins
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>>343895319
Just wait for ZE4, bro ;^)
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>>343895536
>Well, duh. How do you make a robot a divorcee?

Program her with fake memories. The bad experiences Diana went through surely shaped her in some way. Omitting them when creating Luna resulted in straying away from the original she was suppose to recreate.
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>>343895601
>what is anal sex
it's not like Diana isn's used to it already.
Delta/Phi being born is almost as bad as Akane ditching super esper Carlos in the VLR route.
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>>343895601

two sperm, anon

phi and delta are fraternal twins
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>>343894835
>>343889009
also they keep talking about how "poor Q is deaf and blind" (well mention it at least once), and Q never gets a portrait in the status screen.

i however was convinced that after diana + sig love ending, Q was their baby, and as such Q was delta. so at the mexican standoff i decided to try and kill myself. i was real fucking surprised when the one i thought was q was sean and then one i thought i was was delta
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>>343895813
let her have her creampie
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>>343895813
Have you never seen Jurassic Park? Life finds a way. The only safe sex is abstinence.
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>>343888957
It might be left/right sides of screen.
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>>343896000
>The only safe sex is abstinence.

And abstinence was never an option with her

Posting Luna because I don't have enough Diana fanart
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>>343895601
there's like a 4% chance

not impossible, but pretty good odds given they had no way of using protection
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>>343888751
The AB game was one of my favorite parts of VLR and is also part of the reason why Luna is so likeable and Dio is such a fun person to hate. It was that game's gimmick though, so I don't think Uchi should recycle it

>>343895813
Semen can seep out from her butt to her pussy depending on her position, and you know that they tried more and more kinky shit to prevent themselves from going crazy
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>>343886380
Where does Junpei says the nipple quote?
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>>343896162

During the Akane Rape scene.

He says hers are way better than Clover's
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>>343896160
>Semen can seep out from her butt to her pussy depending on her position
Just like in mu hentais.
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>>343896162
Just before one of the puzzle rooms starts I believe but I can't remember when or in which one.
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>>343895675
And how do you get those memories? The Sigma who made Luna was the young Sigma, who only knows Diana 3 years before she died. Then he worked 25 years just to create one. I don't think Sigma programmed Luna that pure just because of petty reasons. Luna's innocent is more like of a child, anyway. Remember when Luna hacked ZeroIII and helping Sigma and Phi? To me, her AI seems more of a self-learning AI with initial blank state compared to programmed innocent pure maiden.
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>>343895203
>horror was better than the first

I disagree. The cutscenes were goofy as fuck. I honestly don't see how it's better than 999. The part where how nine's remains was described when Junpei passes the corridor sold me instantly.
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>>343896162
he talks about how cameras get small. Maybe the Monty Hall or poison room
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>>343896332
Sigma had super sperm anon you know that there would eventually be that trooper who'd make it all the way to Diana's womb.
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>>343896410
Not going to disagree with you but my first fragment was Akane with a chainsaw, and even though during the escape room I saw what was coming finding Junpei's head shocked me.
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>>343896489
>super sperm
>gave birth to complex man
Are Diana's genes that terrible?
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Why don't they just shift to a timeline where they caught the terrorist?
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>>343895421

me and the friend i played with (at first i thought he was super lucky, i came over to him during the finishing two hours of VLR and boy what a fucking ride that is, and not having to wait years for the next game; in retrospect he was far more disappointed than i was) just kind of selected fragments randomly, depending on what teams we wanted to see more of. i feel we got a great balance that way. only issue was we got all the major twists before finishing all executions, since we didn't understand there were four outcomes to the first decision game.

>>343896410
>>343896635
my first puzzle was that one as well. in general the first puzzles we got were all the most gruesome, with the exception of the incinerator which we got last.
spooky sean and spooky robed murderer and the constant feeling that there was someone there who wasn't supposed to be there all made me more spooked.
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>>343896692
because such timeline needs to be created anon.
There are zero timelines where you become president
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>>343896410
Was dropping the third person narrative after 999 a mistake?
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>>343896882
>implying I'm not the president right now
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>>343886380
What's all your all star cast /v/?
Carlos sigma phi
Lotus junpei akane
Seven snake Luna
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>>343896882
I just need some complex MOTIVATION
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WHY DIDN'T ALICE AND CLOVER COME OUT OF THE TRANSPORTER PODS

WHY NOT EVEN DURING A JOKE ENDING
WHAT THE SHIT
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where in the game does carlos say "the fuck?"
I don't remember that and apparently it's a maymay now
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>>343897093
They're coming out of the pods in ZE4
Clover is the terrorist so they have to jump back to VLR and kill her
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>>343897152
When Junpei drags them to the machine gun part
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>>343897152
After listening to Junpei's best plan.
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>>343897312
>agrees anyways
Carlos doesn't give a fuck about Carlos.
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>>343897524
what should he do? He dies no matter what
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>>343893492
You need to get everyone's hope fragments to reveal the true story
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So which zero escape game is your favorite and why isn't it VLR?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10671235
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>>343897792
>3 votes for ZTD
>0 for 999
this can't be real.
/v/ has shit taste in this time line
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holy fuck, why was Carlos so great?

>unyielding sense of justice
>incredible SHIFTer
>loyal as fuck
>selfless
>has personal problems but doesn't let them influence his judgments
>doesn't hold anything against people
>physically strong
>handsome as fuck
>smart
>hilarious when time calls for it
>can sense a mood and isn't a cockblock

Carlos is fucking perfection, he is the husbando personified. How can anyone even compare? It would be hilarious if after he proclaims Akane is really hot she would also reciprocate she finds him hot.
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>>343897929

I FUCKING TOLD EVERYONE SINCE DAY ONE.

PEOPLE THOUGHT ERIC WOULD EVEN HOLD A CANDLE TO CARLOS, WHEN ERIC IS NOT EVEN FIT TO HOLD HIS SEMEN
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Other than the SLEEP WITH ME ending, was Delta mentioned anywhere else?
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>>343897792
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Why the fuck was there no post ending content? No idea what happens afterwards and what the characters are doing, like what the fuck went wrong? I loved playing the game, but this ending is making me feel some type of way.
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>>343898270
They're playing house while searching for terorrist-san. I wis I was joking.
ZTD ending is that fucking bad.
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Zero Escape threads are comfy. Nier/Drakengard threads used to be like that, now it's just console war, platniumbabbies and "censorship" shitposting.
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>>343898270

There are some log entries after you finish it, but nothing major. Basically, Akane and Jumpy are getting married after they catch the terrorist, Carlos' sister is cured and Sean breaks Mira out of jail so she can go back in past with transporter and kill her younger self to prevent all the murders she did. Also, Eric and Mira are married now. No mention of D-team, so make up your own story like I did

I think the reason for little post-game content is they are setting the floor up for ZE4 if it comes to this and they don't want to get themselves in another corner like with Kyle.
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>>343898469

oh my god i can't understand the censorship thing.

it's localized by the same guys that did nier and drakengard. how could there ever be an issue.
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>>343897792
>>343898242
Decided
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How does Sigma's SHIFTing works now? I understand this game's Sigma won't swap consciousness with VLR Sigma anymore, since that future has been erased in the true ending timeline, yes?
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>>343898598
People are just finding reasons to shitpost anything. Censorship has now become /v/'s new go-to buzzword after all the stupid shit NoA pulled.
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the whole kyle thing is my only major gripe.

the whole game i was going Q IS KYLE
DELTA IS KYLE
KYLE IS ZERO?
WHAT THE FUCK IS A "SEAN"?
anyone have the bosman explaining MGSV pacing gif? my kyle-hype followed that exact curve.
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>>343898738
No, vlr still exists, and so all the bad endings. Everything but the ZTD timeline us meaningless.
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>>343891683
Akane can only keep her cool when she is in charge. Otherwise
>JUNPEI, WHERE IS MY SWEET PRECIOUS JUNPEI
>I WANT MY JUNPEI NOW GIVE ME MY JUNPEI
>JUNPEI JUNPEI OOGA BOOGA
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>>343898738
>since that future has been erased
You're stupid.
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>>343898738
>future has been erased
schroedingers cat was smashed over your head in vlr for a reason
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>>343887710
Holy shit
Are you retarded?
Mira being the serial killer is literally explained to you.
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>>343897204
>>343897250
>>343897312
Thanks anons
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>>343898930
WHO KILLED JUNPEI OOGA BOOGA CHAINSAW CARLOS
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>>343898175
There is an anagram that you can shift into other meaning but leaving behind the letters to form the world "DELTA"
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Guys...

what if the terrorist is the Funyarinpa?
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We always follow the consciousnesses of people who willingly jump.
I want a Zero Escape where people know nothing of SHIFTing, yet keep getting SHIFTed around involuntarily.
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>>343899334
DON'T YOU DARE DISRESPECT THE FUNYARINPA
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>>343899386

Well that's VLR, Sigma doesn't know what he's doing most of the game.
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>tfw no Carlos/Junpei ending where too much alcohol is involved and Junpei won't stop asking if Carlos is interested in him

other anon had the right idea. somebody write this.
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>>343891683
It's just bad writing. They always tried to push a scenario where two people are at odds during the decision game but often forget to take their characters into account, like Phi and Sigma being at odds when they were drinking the antidote and in the incinerator room when it wouldve made more sense for her to agree with Sigma. In this case it was edgy evil Junpei vs sweet angelic Akane.
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What is it with Phi and old men? What does she have against them?
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>>343899603

They keep kidnapping her while being part of her family. She's legit to be pissed off.
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>>343899524
I can't believe phi "let's betray them" klim didn't want to push the button in the showers
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>>343899710

i think that's part of her character.
the first time zero revealed he released rad-6 to kill six billion terrorists, she was angry at him.
when he revealed none had died but 8 billion might die due to terrorism, she was also pissed at him.
she's just fucking pissed at anyone trying to answer a dilemma.
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>>343886380

Question : When Voting, Junpei suggests to vote for Q team, when you're in the poison room and find out Q team has been executed, Junpei is really shocked they're dead.

Was Junpei Mind hacked to suggest to vote for Q?
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>>343899710
she was trying to keep blood off of dianas hands. even though she told diana to guarantee her death in the incinerator.
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Who is the best character?
For me
Carl > Sean > Phi > Siggy > Junpy > Diana > Akane > Mira > Eric
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>>343899894
No Junpei just forgot that he's a traitor
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>>343896975
>Ace, Dio, Eric
Oh my God, they don't shut up.
>9th Man, Quark, Akane
Meh.
>Lotus, Alive, Mira
fat tits.
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>>343900153

But they weren't injected with memory wipe drug for the execution round.
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>>343899290
The title of the game has something about delta too
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>>343899994
Carlos > Sigma > Sean > Diana > Phi > Junpei > Akane > Mira > Eric
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>>343887773
>not liking ruse-master reverse-redherring Dio
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Press the button?
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>>343900285
>9th man, Quark, Gab
fix'd
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>>343886380
Honestly I kind of wish there was a timeline where Junpei shifted and remembered Quark
The grandpa-grandson relationship was so much better than the shit he has with Akane
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