>buy this game on sale for $5
>every bullet seems to miss and every death is frustrating
How do I git gud at this 3 year old shooter?
>>341840014
>Every bullet seems to miss
I bought it the other day too. Never had that issue but it does take longer to get someone down than your other average FPS
>>341840014
The way I've always played battlefield has been the same since 1942.
At all times that you are playing, imagine that someone has you in their sights. that is how you win, be out of sight and quick.
>>341840014
I'm in the exact same fucking boat OP.
>Keep getting wrekt because I don't know the maps and some of the starter guns aren't good
>Wasting all my XP boosts by dying a lot and barely getting kills
>Feels like it takes three times as much time to respawn than you did in BF3 which makes dying all that more frustrating
>Vehicles rule supreme in this game, barely ever see engineers anymore because everyone's a medic pack shitting fucker
This game's not comfy at all.
>>341840014
I'm planning on jumping into this series with Battlefield 1 at the behest of some friends who are going to play it. Will I regret this decision? I've always really wanted a game like this set in WWI
>>341840415
>>341840147
Play on Hardcore.
>>341840518
What's that solve other than obvious increased gun damage?
>>341840626
Doesn't take hours to kill one person.
Play deathmatch to get unlocks amd level up, you will start getting good after awhile, the low levels are rough since everyone else is pretty much unlocked.
Use assault with defibrillator and med pack, amd stick to one gun.
>>341840483
You better not be expecting Verdun or Red Orchestra gameplay
Cos it's like 20 tick shit lmao
>>341840753
30-60 depending on the server now, actually. Still pretty lame.
>>341840626
You won't show 24/7 on everyone's radar image and you won't have a fucking triangle above your head shouting "SHOOT HERE".
everything in this game is casualized for noobs. literally just sprint up to the enemy's face and hold down trigger. practice your recoil management and reflexes. 90% of guns are all the same, no need for unlocks. that's it.
Ive had the game since launch (got it with my xbone) and ive always had the same problem. Everything seems super floaty and everyone can drop me in 2 shots but my 7 shots from a scar just tickles their balls and they turn around and kill me. I tried playing every time after a patch. nothing. tried it on pc when it was 5 bucks. nothing. I hate bf4 so much. I just play bf3 on my 360 and pc still. Much better maps, rush, and movement feeling imo
You don't.
That game is dead, it's played only by the max level circlejerking idiots who exploited the meta for years.
Just move on.
>>341840842
Maybe I will try it then.
>>341840707
I've never really played either of those.
Is it so hard to just make bf 2 2 instead of bf3 2 3 4 and 5?
Shoot in 3-5 round bursts, only use full fully auto in cqc. Lead your targets. Account for bullet drop. Use cover. Work with your squad.
>>341840014
I already refunded it. Except I played a bit of it on release and I am not not having your issues, doing like top2-5 among 140 level guys, but game is subjectively shit. I hoped they fixed it, but nope.
Animations are terrible, people strafing while crouching act like some kind of garrys mod models, same with someone getting hit on the run etc.
Time to kill is pathetic, you need minimum 5 bullets of AR on close range to kill something, fucking joke.
Graphics is ok, but instagramm filters rape my face and indoors is dark as shit even with brightness boosted (and then outdoors rapes your eyes)
Hit detection is sloppy and feels like you are not hitting shit.
Every match is just some retards in armored vehicles camping on spawn ending their game with like 10 frags.
Still has lens flares on sniper scope, flashlight cancer and other retarded shit which should've been patched on day1.
Not even worth $5, really. One of the least interesting shooters with close to 0 action every game.
>>341841058
smart frogposter
>>341841253
This is the gayest part of the game for me. And pretty much any battlefield game after a year or 2 once all the casuals leave and its just the autistics left. All they do is sit in vehicles that never die and even if they do, they respawn in 5 seconds again and continue getting infinite kills while being unstoppable. This has always been a major issue with the series but it seems amplified in 4. Agreed with everything else, bf4 is trash
>>341840483
It's WWI in the sense that the weapons are technically from WWI, but they're all prototypes that were used by .01% of the military (one percent of one percent) and the entire French military is missing as of right now.
Will it improve in the future? Maybe. Probably not though.
It's a WWII shooter with some WWI paint thrown at it.
I'd wait until release to see if it's improved at all. But I wouldn't hold my breath either.
>>341841253
>>341841439
>what is the laser designator
>what is a recon-engineer combo
git gud
>>341841209
All good advice.
I'd also say find the weapons that YOU are best with. Other people read stats and go for that, finding the weapons that'll hit hardest.
But they don't implement a strategy different from any other weapon.
In other words, they choose to take the easy road, and use the easiest methods on it. Cheap shots.
You should find different methods.
Single best examples for me
>"Snipers" on attacking teams
Problems are self explanatory. When attacking, focus on moving to the objective, ALIVE! WITH YOUR SQUAD!
BE A MEDIC, HELP! SAVE TICKETS!
Defense is the time you throw on those old cheap tricks, stonewalling is respectable.
>>341840014
OP, have some tips from a decent player with a 3.0 k/d
>run around like a chicken with your head cut off in combat, the olympic sprinter-tier movement speed encourages jumping and zig-zagging to dodge shots. if you play slowly, you'll die quickly
>in general, most automatic guns are a 5 shot kill minimum barring headshots. long range damage depends on the weapon class
>the higher the fire rate of the gun you're using, the faster your ADS spread will increase. to counter this, use shorter bursts
>guns with RPM >800 are generally served best with compensator+stubby grip, RPM <800 use heavy barrel+angled or stubby
>play campaign to unlock the M249 (miles better than the support's starter U100) and maybe p90 (a decent engy gun, but the starter MX4 is actually pretty good)
>stay the fuck away from bolt actions on recon, they are literally useless
>for god's sake, don't take vehicles teammates are repairing
>>341842004
>even if you will find anyone to co-op with enemy will just roll back behind the spawn hill for 3 seconds and roll back 100% repaired
Cool story pal.
If that issue would be so easy to deal with, 30-0 vehicle jerks would not exist and nobody would cry about them. Game is shit, deal with it.
>>341841253
High TTK is a workaround for the low tickrate. When rifles were a 4 shot kill, the FAMAS was literally killing in one frame due to the 30hz tickrate.
>>341842213
>what is the attack chopper
>what is the attack jet
A good attack chopper team can utterly destroy any armor before it has a chance to react. A good attack jet pilot can JDAM bomb any armor from low earth orbit then finish it off with a gun run on the next pass.
All your problems could be solved by gitting gud.
>>341842308
>workaround for the low tickrate
There is no such thing. You either make a game with a proper mechanics or it will end up being shit.
>>341840483
>at the behest of some friends who are going to play it.
Enjoy playing by yourself after one or two matches.
>>341842643
>what is tunguska
Not replying to your future posts till you post your stats. Things you are saying and "getting gud" are not going together. There is no chance you will ever get into the hitrange of that thing on any air vehicle without being torn into pieces.
how can the hit detection still be shit, i thought they upped the tickrate to 30hz or something
>>341842705
Blame DICE in SWEDENYES. They had pretty much no idea what they were doing when the game released and didn't understand the implications of having such a shit tickrate. DICE LA were merely playing the hand they were dealt when they took over development, and it was a janky, if workable fix for a big problem.
>tfw I only liked vehicles in BF when I was playing Bad Company 2
>Helicopters weren't really a threat because no attack choppers and it was fun to shoot darts at them
>Tanks usually fought other tanks or aircraft and when it did come down to a tank vs. an engineer on foot it was somehow more fun
Now all the vehicles in BF3 & 4 are just a means for shitters to antagonize ground troops from a distance behind the comfort of armor. Here's a shitty webm from today that I can't convert at a decent bitrate without going over 4chans upload limit.
>>341841194
Fuck, at least BF3 allowed me to ever get any points in jets. Sure, I was getting shot down by uber pros too, but I could at least tell what was going on and try to adjust next time, maybe even give the guy some trouble. In BF2 I was literally shot down with rockets right after take off most of the time.
>>341843165
BF2142 also had good vehicles that didnt have astronomical skill ceilings.
>>341843165
holy shit you are fuck awful at recoil control
even with those occlusive ass sights, short controlled bursts if you aren't getting hit markers, you even only just managed to win a fight against someone that couldn't see you
learn how to play engineer, you can be a tremendous pain in armor's side if you learn how to take advantage of terrain, and the ups, downs and mechanics behind the various launchers
>>341842992
on 30hz, 40hz and 60hz servers it gets progressively better, and i don't see any popular servers that are still 20hz; the "shit hit detection" is usually (but not always) just people that can't:
-Aim
-Understand how spread works
-Know what ranges their gun is meant for
the extremely high ROF guns have all also largely been balanced out to not do stupid shit that they used to do, too
>>341843179
GOOD
>>341843385
I'm not that good I know, you can't really see it through all the fuzz but I actually was hitting him in the center mass for a couple shots without a hit marker appearing. Also I was testing the gun for the first time in that match so I didn't know what the fuck I was shooting.
>>341843697
i'd have to see the server, because if you're playing a low-ass tickrate server that'd be understandable, as hit detect doesn't shit the bed that hard anymore (at least not with any degree of frequency) on higher tick servers
drag your mouse slightly down to offset vertical recoil, that's about the only real thing you have to learn if you're going to full auto a target, otherwise its learning effective bursting, though microbursting doesn't work too well anymore because of the spread changes
>>341842898
The MAA is still pretty helpless against a good jet or chopper pilot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCwm1UOQI5k#t=3m40s
>>341840014
Bf4 starter guide:
>dont play sniper, go with a DMR if you want to go long range
>dont mond your gun needlessly, EVERY attachements has a drawback, you may end up making your gun worse
>fire in short burst
>a weapon's rof is inversely proportionate to its effectiveness at range
>dont duel tanks, flank them and wait for other engees or tanks to attack
I love these moments.
>>341840014
Don't rush into firefights, just stay back and pick people off while your teammates play cannon fodder. Basically it
is the premium worth 20 bucks?
>>341841546
Devs confirmed France in later dlc but I have no idea about Russia.
https://www.vg247.com/2016/06/14/battlefield-1-multiplayer-factions-wont-include-france-and-russia/
>>341844505
yeah
its the cheapest it'll get and you get a fuckshit of maps for it along with the base game
>>341840014
>every bullet seems to miss
Overwatch did this. People are too goddamn lazy to aim now.
>>341840014
Learn how 2 recoil control
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doM8uK5SA44
>>341844761
the hell are you talkinga bout anon?
>>341844857
>>341844761
oh scratch that i get it now
you were responding
not making an assertion
sorry anon its late
>>341844857
>>341844596
why does anyone think russias involvement meant anything? at best they were a distraction and made germany fight a two front war. but they dropped like flies, were trained like shit, and had fuck for all weapons, ammo, food. one battle, 10000 germans died and 1.8 million russians died. they were fucking useless. stupid potato niggers
get your hands on a LMG that you like and join mr bipod wild ride. bonus points if you manage to get a IR scope for when the smoke kicks in
>>341845263
IR and FLIR no longer pierce smoke, and haven't for some time now.
Bipods are effective in niche situations.
>>341840518
Hardcore is easy mode for noobs who can't shoot.
Learn how to shoot.
Fucking niggers.
>>341845336
really? well I haven´t played in a while. the game in general pissed me off when EA decided to put the m60 as a dlc weapon. It was an ultra jew move and I refuse to buy the DLC´s
>>341840014
Large scale combat takes time to get used to if you're new at it. Just keep playing, you'll get the hang of it.
Keep your head on a swivel, assess your surroundings, and plan your attack. Check the minimap constantly to know where your team is and where the enemy isn't. Pick your battles; if you shoot at someone, that's someone who knows where you are. Move around cover as much as you can. Join a squad and go where they go, there's power in numbers in this kind of game.
>>341840014
>believed in DICE
>kept thinking one more patch and it'd be good
>its still shit and I have 200 hours in it
buckle up for one part casual one part bugs one part shitty maps to make the triforce of garbage.
>>341845604
You're legitimately missing out, but I respect your decision. I bought the game and premium at launch and stuck with it hoping it would get good and it did, just took a year and change.
>>341845763
Its for the best. I have already spent way too much time in regular FPS, and feeding EA in the current year is just embarrassing.also I bought it in PS3 and the vehicle maps are unplayable with 32 players
>>341845085
Couldn't tell ya, but they deserve to be in the game way more than the United States does.
So then
You kids ready to admit that this isn't literally CoD?
>>341846412
what
>>341846412
>admit that this isn't literally CoD?
Yes, it literally is not CoD.
>>341840014
Don't spray and pray
Do short controlled bursts
>>341840014
Dont move when shooting, single shot never spray are my main tips
>>341841058
>Battlefield
>Exploited the meta
Back to whatever moba you crawled from
>>341840014
Shit, I've been playing Bad Company 2 and it feels like this. I guess this is just what these fucking games are like
Will never forgive battlefield 4 for what it did to my computer ( corupted the hd during dl and i lost loads of shit) piece of fuxking shit that game.
I'm guessing it's $5 on origin?
>>341846810
Are you seriously blaming a game for your shitty hard drive breaking?
>>341846865
should I buy hardline too?
>>341846990
why would you buy both?
anyway no, hardline is much less of a game than 4
>>341846865
I know for a fact it's on sale for $5 on the Playstation store, it could be for all platforms as an EA thing.
>>341846990
I was told the community is dying so probably not.
>>341847178
hardline has like 3k people playing it on pc
>>341846962
BF4 did it bro as it was fine after I fixed it, BF4 is scum.
>>341844331
wat?
>>341840415
>>341840014
>>341840147
Maybe you just suck
How dead is BC2 multiplayer?
>>341840014
>tfw I mostly use single-shot mode
>I hit erry time
