This play station VR shit is really gonna flop isn't it ?
>>341242507
Just like you're gonna flop all over my fat fucking dick bitch lmao
It probably, really is, yeah.
I actually kinda like the idea of it, and I'm not opposed to the headset by itself, as a concept.
The problem, and this is something console makers seem to forget literally every year, is
NOBODY FUCKING LIKES BUYING EXPENSIVE ACCESSORIES.
Go all the way back, and I mean ALL the fucking way back to the beginning. ROB, the super scope, the 32X, the super-precision, the Sega CD, the N64 microphone, the original Eye-toy, the Playstation Move, the Kinect, motherfucking Wonderbook, Playstation branded 3D TVs, NOBODY FUCKING BOUGHT THAT SHIT.
It doesn't matter what it does, what new, unbelievable shit it can do with your console, it doesn't matter if it sucks your dick. Unless it comes with and is an integral part of the console itself, it's going to do shit at retail, especially at that price.
>>341242568
hot
50 million peoples bought PS4. I expect half of them will get PSVR. Why? Because Sony is like the Iphone of console.
>>341244196
They can barely sell their own exclusives
What makes you think they can get people to shell out 400$ ?
>>341244806
Because it has Star Wars, Batman and COD
>Headset $399
>PS4 $349
Pretty much a flop
>>341244196
Only 40 million did. Half of them won't get it though are you fucking mental? There isn't even a game that sold 20 million copies on the PS4.
>>341243163
20 million people bought the literal no games PS move. People like gimmicks.
The real reason it's gonna flop is because you cant play Illusion Hentai games on it.
>>341245635
Don't forget $50 for the camera and $50 for the controllers.
>tfw you dont care about the vr trend because you wear glasses
What I'm not getting is that it's pretty much fact at this point, that you need 90fps @ 2160x1200 for VR to be good, otherwise, you have screen door effect, and it looks like garbage/ makes you sick. Yet here they are, claiming launch ps4 can do it, for $300
The "games" they were showing look better than 90% of Oculus content, so it's probably safe to say most of graphics shown are bullshit, but even the ridiculously subsidized oculus is $600, so the headset is likely garbage, unless they're taking a $200+ hit on every one.
What the fuck are they doing? Unless they have some fucking actual black magic going on here, it's not technologically feasible that launch ps4 can do VR at all, much less do it well.
What am I missing?
>>341245653
>>20 million people bought the literal no games PS move
I'd be interested to see how many of those were at the retarded launch price, and how many were a year later when it sold for 10 bucks.
>>341246218
Correction, that's 2X 90fps @ 2160x1200
I just noticed on that graphic
>Super low latency
>less than 18ms
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHA
Isn't a regular screen somewhere between 8-5ms response time?
>>341246331
the latency they're talking about isn't the same as monitor latency.
>>341244196
35 million of those just want fifa madden and battlefield
>>341246331
>low latency
>8ms
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHA
Isn't a CRT somewhere between 0-0.0000000001ms response time?
You do realise the shitty TVs most "gamers" use have latency of 100-500ms?
>>341242507
>>341245635
>>341245810
So wait. It's $500 in total? Isn't that the price of the Neo?
>>341246403
>screen on headset
then what latency are they talking about?
>>341246475
I think you're right about CRTs I've heard them having little to no response latency, but a latency of 100 - 500 ms? You're downright retarded. half a second, even a tenth of a second is palpable.
The issue still stands, sony is advertising a fast response time with a tediously slow panel.
>>341246707
>but a latency of 100 - 500 ms?
You do understand how shitty 42" panels are, right? It's why the industry moved away from reaction based QTEs and towards button mashing ones.
If you're gaming on 99% of TVs, you're experiencing several frames of lag.
I tried it. Ask me anything.
Pros
>cheaper than the Rift or Vive
>doesn't need a beefy PC
Cons
>low framerate
>terrible (TERRIBLE) latency
>all the games there were pretty ugly, not sure what that's about
>>341246707
1ms = 1 millisecond(millionth sec)
1,000,000/500 = 2000
1/2000 sec is not palpable.
>>341246707
entire pipeline, there's motion inputs involved.
all vr head sets are infinitely faster than monitors.
Assuming oculus really is selling the rift at a loss like they say they are, VR clearly isn't ready. Not because the tech doesn't exist, but because it's still way too expensive for the average consumer.
It's a product that's being ruined by the hype it generated since companies are now pushing forward with VR way too quickly to take advantage of the hype when at this stage it should really only be an enthusiast's toy at best. When companies overpredict their sales figures and it ends up selling much less because nobody can fucking afford the product, they'll think it's a failure and drop it, which will be a huge shame considering VR actually is really promising.
>implying there won't be a slimmer better model 1 year after release
>>341246201
I've only messed with the Vive, but if your eye sight isn't crazy bad, you can adjust the lenses and play without your glasses. But I believe there's also notches in the padding to give space so you can wear glasses while you play.
>>341246908
>>terrible (TERRIBLE) latency
>>all the games there were pretty ugly, not sure what that's about
Well that's it then, I knew Sony couldn't pull off VR at that price.
Kind of sad they banked their whole next year on a terrible device.
>>341245653
>20 million people bought the literal no games PS move. People like gimmicks.
ps move was 100 dollars bundled and dropped incredibly quick
>Literally no games for it at launch
I don't think that strategy is going to work again, Sony
>>341246951
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=1+second+in+milliseconds
Let me help you unit there.
I take it you're from America, because then you'd know that milli = 1000
500ms is half a second.
>price making it flop
Nope, Rift, Vive, and PS VR all sold out almost immediately.
What will kill VR is exclusives and fragmentation of the market.
>>341247209
>is exclusives and fragmentation of the market.
huh, wonder where we've seen that before.
>>341247084
It's not... unusable, but for example they had this demo where you had to hit a soccer ball with your head and almost noone managed to do it. The latency was pretty weird.
>>341246951
Milli is one t thousandth
>>341246201
bro you can wear your glasses and the headset at the same time wow
>>341247183
Ausfag, actually, but I stand corrected.
>>341247319
Well that's going to really deter normies who are going to shitpost on twitter about eyetoy2.
ripip sony
>>341246908
>>341247319
PSVR's latency is bad? Can you compare with your experience on Vive/Oculus if you have any?
And how's the move controllers?
>>341247209
>>341247268
The fragmentation is entirely fucking Zuck and Palmer's doing. Fuck those two.
>>341247428
You were thinking of a microsecond. That's a millionth of a second.
>>341247515
Yeah, I saw that when I confirmed I messed up. Sorry, m8
>>341247471
not them and I haven't tried it but move controllers have latency issues too.
psvr is INTERPOLATING, it's going to have way more latency than the other two head sets.
>>341242507
It has a better chance than the competition simply because it's cheaper and runs off of a relatively cheap console.
>>341247471
Who gives a shit. Its only people who brought the Vive that are unhappy about them.
Too bad Valve don't' bother to support their platform with games and just expect to get everyone else to provide them.
>>341246218
Pls respond.
>>341247471
>PSVR's latency is bad? Can you compare with your experience on Vive/Oculus if you have any?
I have a Vive and I've tried the DK2. They're both much, much better than the PSVR, but maybe it's bias. I can't help but feel that there was something super wrong the whole time though.
I didn't try the Move controllers, can't say anything there
>>341247708
>>not them and I haven't tried it but move controllers have latency issues too.
You're clueless, move is practically 1:1. The issue is that they lose tracking at the drop of a fucking hat, so your movements will be completely off within a couple of minutes.
>>341247715
Why couldn't we just have an open standard for god's sake? This shit is what is turning me off from VR.
>>341247715
>brought the Vive that are unhappy about them.
Wait what?
I thought the Vive was better than OR?
>>341247835
Also forgot to mention it's pretty okay if you don't move your head too fast, you just gotta remember to do it slowly. If you do move it fast (which is more natural) it's weird as hell
>>341247880
It is better, and it can literally play all of Oculus "exclusives" with Revive.
>>341247961
Fellow Vive owner. We are not talking about frame dropping here right? Is it more in the sense that the PS4 can't keep up with the positional change? And does the screen go blank if you lose tracking?
>>341247848
No I'm not, I've watched lots of coverage. Most notably the Tested guys who are the best critics of VR.
That you say it's 1:1 confirms you're a retard, none of them can possibly be 1:1.
>>341248167
The framerate isn't great, but it didn't seem to drop. I also didn't lose tracking.
And how's the move controllers?
The issues really are just latency and framerate (they're definitely not reaching more than 60 if that)
too lazy to timestamp
>>341248148
Worse comfort, no built in audio(Those shit in ear headphones they give you don't count), slighter more visible screen door effect, smaller sweet spot - Somehow better....
The only thing the Vive has better is the motion controllers.
>>341248220
>Most notably the Tested guys who are the best critics of VR.
>didn't notice any of the god rays on the RIft before it launched
>didn't notice the vastly superior FOV on the Vive
kek, giant bomb is a better "critic"
>>341248220
>Most notably the Tested guys who are the best critics of VR.
Haha, good fucking joke, m8.
The tracking on the Move is very accurate, the issue is that it loses tracking constantly and can't correct because of the limitations of the position based sensing it uses. If you're playing a long distance from the camera, and never pass the balls behind anything, you might be alright.
Rift owner reporting
>>341247880
>>341248148
I tried Vive and I'd say right now, Vive is more fun, due completely to the motion controls, but if every time I put on the Vive headset, I missed my OR.
OR is 1000x more comfortable, has less bulky wires, and looks a bit better imho, but the motion controls are what really make VR. They both track about the same, and, subjectively speaking, of course, Oculus store is much cleaner and better presented than SteamVR.
OR headset with Vive motion controls would be GOAT. So hopefully Oculus Touch delivers.
>>341248297
I am the opposite to you. Oculus Rift can't play nice with glasses and I like the fact that I can plug actual headphones into it, and there's built-in bluetooth to the Vive, which Oculus doesn't have.
>>341248297
>Facial interface and head straps are entirely user replaceable and third party foam and covers already exist to further improve the FOV/comfort
>Can adjust eye-relief unlike Rift to better accommodate glasses/better sweet spot
>Able to use own DAC/amp with Vive's USB port
>Ships with controllers so the market won't be further fragmented down the line by multiple SKUs and having to develop for the Xbone controllers
>>341242507
>This play station VR shit is really gonna flop isn't it ?
It has the biggest chance of succeeding out of them all, if anything.
The fact that you don't even realize this just means that you're very out of touch.
>>341248613
Yeah man, they might sell DOUBLE what the current devices have combined, for total sales of a dozen units!
>>341248539
Really? I feel the exact opposite.
>>341248539
>Oculus store only lets you install to C: drive
It's shit
>>341248718
Its all subjective, mang.
I do really like alot of features on Vive, and wouldn't be unhappy with it, it's just that for me, personally, I find OR feels better.
>>341248857
This is false.
At launch, yes, but as of a month or two ago, you can select your drive
>tfw I died on the inside.
>>341248613
What does success mean? Sales? Because I care about gaming and PC has more games for VR. And always will.
And porn.
>>341248936
Wrong, only if you uninstall and reinstall ALL of your games to another drive.
https://support.oculus.com/help/oculus/1734357913462268
>>341248539
>velcro breaks, have to send the entire unit back
>hdmi cable breaks, have to send the entire unit back
No thanks
>>341248972
Success means not a dead platform.
And VR has a long way to go before it is a viable platform.
>>341243163
Actually the Kinect sold pretty well for a few years, they fucked up the games however.
>>341249019
>If you have multiple drives available on your computer, you can selectChange Drive(during the installation setup) to install Oculus to a different location.
You can also set it to run unknown software, so this point is really moot, if you use SteamVR titles.
>>341249276
>to install Oculus to a different location.
>>341248580
what the FUCK is that image saying about oculus touch?
i'm too stupid to understand. it seems like it's bad?
>>341249261
>Tfw kinect is underrated
I really hope the slim drops the camera, and puts voice controls in the box. I never use the camera, but damn, I love saying "xbox on/off, volume up/down, etc and having my whole system voice controlled.
>>341249392
they fucked up hard by relying on IR LEDs for motion tracking
>>341249381
Ie: not C drive
What are you arguing?
>>341247209
>Nope, Rift, Vive, and PS VR all sold out almost immediately.
Artificial scarcity to cause unintentional guerilla marketing like you just did for them, m8y.
As far as I know, no VR headset has released actual sales numbers, only projections and guesstimates. If they were selling like hotcakes in actual notable numbers, you can bet your Haptic Feedback Enabled Ass that they'd be singing their sales numbers from the heavens.
The reality is that, like every other VR generation for the past 25 years, it's just too expensive for the average consumer, and it's going to burn out by next year unless companies start sinking themselves trying to sell units, and even then it probably own't be enough. Most people are fine with their monitor/TV.
>>341249596
sorry, should have said X: drive
I'm gonna buy it.
And not give a single fuck.
>>341249657
>PSVRwas the top seller on amazon when it came out
>Vive/Rift sold out across retail faster than they can get them in
>Vive being spun off into its own company to avoid the sinking ship that is HTC
It's safe to say that it's selling well for a peripheral.
>>341249527
I knew that too. That guy is obtuse to say the least.
The controller doesn't seem good to me either though I like the analogs. I have no idea why Valves' doesn't also have analogs. They seem useful.
I always say that I'd rather have Vive wands instead of the movie because the Wii mote was better to hold than the nunchuck which cramped my fingers.
>get my vive
>24 hours afterwards a power cable to one of the base stations break out of nowhere
>contact support and ask for replacement
>go downtown and buy a replacement cable while waiting for htc to send me a new vive cable
>3 weeks later and several mails later
>not a single response yet
>>341243163
>Nobody bought ROB, whom saved the industry by being a trojan horse
Here's your reply
>>341249840
>The controller doesn't seem good to me either though I like the analogs. I have no idea why Valves' doesn't also have analogs. They seem useful.
Because joystick movement is shit and it makes you nauseated. And I guess you've never used a Steam controller or a Vive controller.
>>341249658
>Tfw wasn't me responding, but I named my 4tb X drive
Are you my evil twin?
>>341245810
you dont 'need" those.
at the moment yes
>>341249657
Not him and you're right about figures but it's because they're still being sold and Oculus is just trying to figure out their shipping crap.
VR will not die, you're an idiot to think it will. If games just sell a minuscule 10k copies forever they'll still be getting made.
And Valve doesn't release sales figures.
>>341249928
>tfw a 4TB drive just failed and it was 1 year out of warranty
dang
>>341249920
This.
Apparently, I'm one of the few that isn't bothered by it, but all my friends who have tried it can't handle it well
>>341249657
Yea that guy is dumb but VR did not fail
Right now due to its high price tag those who have it are just those who are on the hype train and all that
It was never intended to be selling millions already. The intention of both is to release now with no intention of mainstream popularity until they drop the price in a few years
>>341249920
Is the vive controller bad? It doesn't always make you nauseated and it will be handy for certain VR games, that's why they're on the touch.
I'm talking about oculus touch's controller btw, it has analogs.
>>341250037
>press F to pay respects
FFFFFF
>>341249657
Artificial scarcity vs ad populum
It happens. But it's obvious from this year's E3 that they're accepting VR into the mainstream and trying to meme it up where everyone will want it like Kinect/Wii Fit.
So anyone have any experience with VR? I've seen videos of people standing, flopping their arms around and doing shit but I just want to be comfy. Can I just wear the headset but sitting down and play the game with the controller? Essentially the same thing as we do now except using the TV we just use the headset?
>>341249937
You need the camera. You can do without the controllers.
>>341250181
>I have no idea why Valves' doesn't also have analogs. They seem useful.
>Because joystick movement is shit and it makes you nauseated
lrn2read
>>341250213
Some games, yeah. All Oculus' games atm are this way. Dreadhalls is particularly good imo
>>341242507
It has the best chance out of the VR headsets, due to having non-indie exclusive and the cheapest price, but even this will be no more than a gimmick. The only way for VR to become the standard is to bundle it with the new consoles at launch.
>>341250213
Sure you can, although you may end up reaching out and touch your screen inadvertently if you are using Vive by setting it too close to your monitor.
>>341250213
yeah. the vr theatre is comfy as fuck.
>>341250293
I did read it, you didn't read my post!
they are handy, that's why oculus touch has them. and you don't always get nauseous.
and I asked if vive's was bad in your opinion. seems good to me.
>>341243163
>>341242507
You guys are wrong. This thing is more than an "accessory". It's a fully fledged monitor being strapped to your face. Of course it's not going to immediately sell a million unit at launch. But it is one of those things that is simple a better experience than typical viewing. So it will catch on. It will eventually become an essential component to not only gaming, but also viewing any form of media in the home.
>>341246218
They never said launch ps4 could handle it. This is the entire reason the ps4 neo was made.
>>341249453
If I remember correctly the next dashboard update with Cortana will support the headset as voice input for everything.
>>341246951
It's a thousandth you tard
Which one is best for porn?
If it worked with my console and my PC I'd buy it in a heartbeat, and I think it would become THE headset for a lot of people. Missed opportunity.
>>341250895
They said in the presentation that they had them running on launch ps4s, you lemon.
>>341250494
If you owned a vr headset, you'd see how wrong you are
>>341250916
Yeah, that why I'm hoping for a mic in the box. I never use the headset
>>341245653
Hasn't it already sold out of it's preorders?
>can't afford it
Why have gaming as a hobby?
>>341242507
Was there any word about this working on PC?
And if it does work on PC, would it also require the Eye Toy?
>>341245939
Fuck you ynhbhbuhyhvt
>>341251192
that doesn't mean anything, the y could have only made 100 head sets.
>>341242507
Yeah.
>>341251427
No reason to be a rabidly delusional antifan.
>>341250213
This is what I want. More immersion without all the wii bullshit.
>>341249392
The post is by a total nobody that does nothing but post about how shit Oculus is.
Not worth listening to.
>>341251313
Nothing conclusive. Some people I know thought they would get PC comparability through Oculus as Oculus is known to have shared some tech with them. The Eye Toy would be required because you can't do headtracking without it.
>>341243163
>the N64 microphone
Only one game used that, right? Hey You Pikachu.
I remember it was never released in Europe because Nintendo thought Europeans had funny accents that wouldn't work with the voice recognition unit (even native English speakers, such as the Brits). Really funny shit. Glad I owned a US import unit and managed to buy the game. It still barely worked though, waste of about $80.
Still cheaper and more games than Oculus or Vive.
If any VR can succeed, it's this thing
>>341251530
I'm not, it's true. I hate Oculus not PSVR.
I have no idea how many headsets are out there because we have no numbers from any vendor.
so if you buy a VR game does it only work with VR? can you switch back and forth between playing it on the console and the VR set?
>>341251763
*if it actually works and doesn't give you eye cancer
Which, I seriously doubt on launch ps4
>>341251638
>Not worth listening to.
But Oculus is cancer, he seems like a bro.
In other words, fuck off Palmer you faggot.
>>341251313
>>341251718
Sony said they might. It would be a good move as long as they made a new platform to sell games.
>>341249904
When they un-bundled it from the base NES unit and sold separately, it flopped and was soon discontinued.
Same with the Kinect. As soon as MS un-bundled it, no one gives a shit about it anymore.
>>341243163
>NOBODY FUCKING BOUGHT THAT SHIT.
Kinect and Wii Fit were the best selling consumer electronics for their time.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/03/09/microsoft-kinect-fastest-selling-consumer-electronics_n_833706.html
http://www.exergamefitness.com/blog/wii-fit-poised-to-become-americas-best-selling-game-ever/
>>341242507
PlayStation really likes to copy other people's ideas huh?
>>341251745
All the microphone games really only work in Japanese, voice recognition over there is a cinch.
What's fun is that for all the advances with shit like Siri, Japs still can't use it with their awful English accents, it comes up as gibberish 9 times out of 10.
I want to fuck the fat black VR backpack chick
>>341252087
oh god she looks sassy
wonder what game she's playing
>>341251861
Depends on the individual game, of course.
>>341251763
It's not so simple. The hardware itself is worse than on pc, both the headset and the console. With this conference we saw that Sony is trying to get some actual games on the thing, which is a plus for PSVR, but the problem is that out of the 3 main headsets this is the most locked out one because it's tied to the ps4. Unless they make it compatible with pc then this thing is terrible.
Coincidentally if this is compatible with pc then its the best one.
>>341251103
Bout the same. If porn is all you want, get a gearvr or wait for daydream.
Haha so expensive. Please dont look how much a vr ready pc and a htc vive costs.
>>341242507
what makes you say that? Sony put their all into PS Eye and this is very promising like their 3D TV with games that take full advantage of the 3D
>>341252451
>Coincidentally if this is compatible with pc then its the best one.
that goes against what you just said you retard
>>341251905
He seems like a fanboy is what he seems like. Oculus' business tactics being skeevy as all fuck doesn't make him less of one.
>>341251875
>gives you eye cancer
Running out of valid arguments already?
I made this image and the thread got deleted because WE REDDIT NOW BOYS! censoring stupid shit is what we do, anyways, enjoy.
WE WON SONYBROS!
>>341251998
I think his point was, were are they now? Nowhere. A forgotten "novelty" that died in a couple of years. A lot of VR proponents are claiming that the technology will "revolutionize" the gaming industry. Just like how Ouya fanboys said that it would revolutionize the way people play games in their living room. But anyone with a lick of sense knows that that's not going to happy. Not by a long shot. It's destined to fail or be forgotten (or both) in the long run.
>>341252691
he's not talking about graphics.
if the vr games play and feel liek shit you literally will get eye cancer.
>>341251779
Know what, you're right and a total genius, it makes perfect sense to push something out that is not expected to sell well in extremely limited quantities instead of capitalizing on the guild will and extreme interest in VR garnered so far.
>>341244196
I will be surprised if more than 10% purchase it
Quick question, with the VR dropping this year and the Neo most likely ages away, does that mean the current PS4 can play VR? Just not as efficiently I assume.
>>341252772
Reminder that there were threads yesterday with this tweet that didn't get deleted and remained on page 1 until bump limit.
Conclusion, /v/ is shilling for sony.
>>341243163
This, this, this.
>>341246582
800 for the system and peripherals
>>341247209
this
it's only defendable for sony because it's exclusive to their console
>>341253014
Well yeah.
>>341253014
It needs a separate box, Neo will have the box technology included.
Get ready for sega level addons.
>>341252831
>if it sells well, it means nothing
>if it doesn't sell well, it means nothing
Okay.
>>341252915
I don't think it's smart at all you faggot, stop acting like a piece of shit.
>>341253095
>>341253173
Haha. Shit.
>>341252649
Not him, but I agree with him. Price and feature wise, it would be competitive with the PC headsets if run on PC hardware. It has lower resolution but is full RGB so it's pixel count is close
When your HMD is $399, $599 or $799 and it costs more than your console or GPU, you know it's a FLOP
>>341253273
It wouldn't be the best though, it would be the cheapest.
>>341253296
A teraflop, amirite?
>>341253173
That box only does two things. It unwarps the image that's mirrored to the TV and it handles the binaural audio.
>>341253376
Depends on what you mean by best. Best amount of games? Best price per fun? Best hardware that only has tech demos?
>>341252691
THE DOCTORS SAY I GOTTA GO EZ ON THE SWEETZ
>>341253180
There's a BIG difference between something selling well and then being forgotten after a year (often refereed to as a "fad" or "novelty"), and something that totally revolutionizes the industry. VR tech will not revolutionize at all. Just as the recent glut of 3D TVs didn't revolutionize anything. People just don't like wearing clunky glasses on their heads whilst consuming entertainment.
>>341247151
>Literally no games for it at launch
>implying people are buying it for games
>>341253453
Whats even the point of your point? you still need a separate box, retard sonnyger excuseboi.
>>341253091
No, it isn't. Consoles are practically PCs anyway. Steam fanboys just make arbitrary lines in the sand where one piece of hardware they deem similar to another they MUST share the same software.
>>341245939
Summer lesson when?
>>341253913
I have never owned a console in my life and don't intend to. The point of my post is to inform people, because there's a lot of misinformation going around. Enjoy your console war.
>>341254276
October, I think.
>>341254737
>http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/13/summer-lesson-releases-october-japan-playstation-4/
>In Japan
Suffering.
After playing the RE7 demo I honestly am hyped as fuck to get it, LIVING IN THE FUTURE
>>341255096
Didn't people around here import that volleyball tittie game when it came out? Can they do the same thing here?
>>341255096
it's a non porn anime waifu game you queerlord cuckmaster
why would you spend money on that when porn games are free on pc
>>341255406
What was that demo like? Was it third person? How did that work?
>>341252649
Maybe if you weren't retarded you would get that that single point outweights the negatives and tips the balance to the PSVR's favor against it's competitors.
>>341255569
First person, think P.T
>>341255096
>Suffering.
You need the PSVR to play it anyway, so it can't actually be any earlier than October.
>>341255442
>Didn't people around here import that volleyball tittie game when it came out? Can they do the same thing here?
But ofcourse. The issue is the DOAX2 has English subs for the Asian Edition. But the Japanese edition does not. And Summer Lesson doesn't look like it would have an Asian edition on release day.
>>341247417
Only if your glasses are small enough
>>341242507
Guess what Sony. Lessons have been learned early adopters simply get fucked. Bought a PS4 where are those exclusives that happend during the ps3 era around this time.
Make the PSVR if it launches and does very well because of god intervention to save VR well then ill buy one.
Or if it flops very terriblely like vita does ill buy one on ebay at super discount rates.
You guys can fuck off with this gotta buy move controllers and eye toy. A fucking controller works just fine and i havent seen the eye toy being used at all in the demos.
Fuck you guys trying to sell shit in order to min the money you lose per headseat.
>>341257006
At least with the Gear VR, the smaller wire frame glasses fit fine, but the closest adjustment is just inside the range of my nearsightedness so I don't absolutely need it.
>>341257478
Huh. Didn't expect that. For me it feels like my eyeballs are damn near touching the lenses.
>>341242507
The thing PSVR has going for it more then anything is the developers.
Sony First Party Studios will create a VR exclusive games. Like a racing game or fighter pilot game that shows when a game is built from the ground up for VR its ridicously good.
So far on PC we havnt had that level of focus.
Even if the hardware is shit and yada yada thats the advantage Sony has.
>>341257793
>So far on PC we havnt had that level of focus.
Now you're just being silly.
>>341257793
Sony 1st party are shit so more shit games, then
>>341257793
>stand and shoot at enemies: final fantasy skin edition
>walk around dark room and pick up clues to solve puzzle: resident evil skin edition
>>341257793
>So far on PC we havnt had that level of focus.
Illusion is dead set on making VR games.
There's NOTHING consoles can come up with to rival this. NOTHING!
>>341257793
>On PC
You're joking, right? You realize that oculus is shit talked because of exclusives.
>>341258035
And somehow that's still way more appealing than anything coming out on the other VR platforms. Is there a single thing announced for those that isn't pretentious indie shit?
>>341258145
It's funny that the Japanese porn makers are actually taking the lead when it comes to making VR games that's actually worth a damn.
There is simply no beating 3DCM2 with USB onahole and Vive right now. NOTHING comes close. Roomscale lets you fuck a loli doggy style, something that just can't be done without PC grade VR.
>>341258640
>It's funny that the Japanese porn makers are actually taking the lead when it comes to making VR games that's actually worth a damn.
It's because the Japanese PC gaming market has a stigma of being porn-driven. But because of that many PC developers just stop giving a damn and go full hog with offering the most satisfying sexual VR experience it could offer. They don't pretend to be artists, they are honest about their trade. They make stuff for people to jack off to.
>>341257938
So Gran Turismo is shit
So is Uncharted/TLOU
So is Infamous
So is WipeOut
So is God of War
So is ........
Really dude. Your telling me that a game built from the ground up on PSVR wont be amazing. Have you seen what ps4 first party games can do?
>>341259148
Only Wipeout is not shit and Sony closed down the studio
Only shit remains at Sony
>>341258640
>>341258978
And PSVR is slightly ruining it because that means Japan won't get a PC for VR which would be a gateway to buying porn. So even if Illusion and other Eroge companies are making VR games, they still won't be mainstream when it comes to sales so the games will never be AAA.
Alas, if only Valve supported ecchi titles.
>>341259148
Those games are all uninspired except for WipeOut which doesn't even exist anymore.
VR is a different experience to anything Playstation has ever delivered. You need a high attention to detail and good art direction to make a top class VR game, or tits. None of the games you mentioned have that.
I mean their best studio is ND and they'd make a visually good VR.... walking simulator...
Fun? Nah. These already exist.
>>341258978
And they are actually at the leading edge, the vanguard of the tech at that. Quite funny. Vive and Oculus Rift are all game for them.
Even the people working on Nekopara's in on it.
>>341259642
>So even if Illusion and other Eroge companies are making VR games, they still won't be mainstream when it comes to sales so the games will never be AAA.
It's okay, Japanese porn game developers don't have any illusions of graduar, so they never had to pull AAA game sales to make their money back.
And let's face it, porn is desired but will always be a limited market. The Japanese porn game makers will be fine, they survive this long, it's not like they need to sell Tomb Raider numbers or anything.
>>341259685
It would be a sin to see the vast majority of H-games not embracing VR. It's just stupid to imagine that future.
Even the visual novels should start being made in Unity for the 3D because walking around in a room while your waifu looks at and talks to you and the character you play as narrates his thoughts would be the most immersive thing ever created.
Imagine a Yosino game where you just creep around a room while shit is going down. IMAGINE IT.
>>341260018
Yeah but imagine if they were bigger studios that could make games withgood gameplay.
>>341242507
No it won't. People bough Move. People bought Vita. People bought PS4 when it had no games. These idiots will buy anything
>>341260164
>Yeah but imagine if they were bigger studios that could make games with good gameplay.
You outright can't advertise porn. DOAX and Idol M@aster games are really as far as you can go while still be able to sell to everyone. This is the reality, but also a benefit. The porn game industry in Japan is left alone exactly because it is so niche. We might hear about them all the time because Western media likes to make fun of it, but in Japan they are not well known. Not being well known is good in terms of sex games, you don't want the publicity.
>>341258178
It's pretty funny. Oculus has a ton of exclusives if you are a Vive fanboy. It has no exclusives if you are a Sony fanboy. It has just as many exclusives as everyone else does if you are an Oculus fanboy.
Like I don't know if you played this game or others like it but they're fun. It's like reading a book but more fun. If it was in VR you would be living inside of a fully fleshed out story that takes days or weeks to get through.
It would be good for losing weight and shit, be careful not to starve to death though.
>>341260565
>You outright can't advertise porn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLqVxC6JWIM
15,000,000 views.
Those ecchi games only sell because they have a platform to be sold on. The west has zero access to porn games unless they're top level NEET weebs with too much money.
>>341248167
>overpriced razor keyboard
>useless keypad that was probably 60+ usd
>800 dollar vive
>thrift store tier desk
>>341261198
Well, what do you expect from a Vive owner? They obviously don't care about furniture, if they did care at all then they wouldn't have the space for it, or the will to drill holes all over their walls.
>it's still only 24 countries for Vive
>>341261198
>>341261198
This is >>341248167. I am too much of a lazy fuck to switch my desk, and that isn't a razer keyboard, but it's still $100 when I got it, so still overpriced. Keypad was $40 when I got it.
>>341242507
But it already sold out on amazon(germany). Seems to be successful over here.
