New Zelda lore thread
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>>341501104
Current discussion topics
>is Breath of the Wind actually convening all the timelines into one?
>clarification on the whole Failure timeline and what it actually is
>just what the fuck are the Sheikahs trying to do?
>who and what Ganon actually is
Anyone got any more quotes from old man daphnes? We must places the pieces together!
As said in previous bread,
>invasions in Zelda happen because lel Dark Links all over as far as "Link" here sees it
>it's actually other Lunks trying to save the world, but due to their programming, they can only either see other Lonks as either Dark Links or "allies" meant to be sidekicks to help them save the world
>all the mechanics and other shit shown off
It all suddenly makes sense. And if the "Lunk is a robot/clone" theory is right, it also works perfectly: A fugton of Lunks exploring the world, but to them, any other Lunk is an enemy or ally to either murder or help, and what happens once they meet is up to you.
Expect shit to get real once it's confirmed.
>>341524441
>being into videogame "lore"
As much as I appreciate people trying to solve the fuckery that is Timeline 3, it is ultimately canonically a "What if" timeline.
I can certainly hope that one day they retcon it and explain it with the time hopping BS but ultimately as it stands now it's just an alternate scenario where Link dies.
Hello? King Daphnes? I've got Princess Zelda here. I've managed to avoid drowning.
So, what's the basis of the whole "Link is a robot" theory? Is it literally just based on the simple fact that Link's eyes are the same blue color as some of the technologically-based things in the world?
>>341524791
Explanation for the failed timeline
>>341524625
But think about it
In the adult timeline Link wins and then goes back in time. So Link no longer exists in this timeline, that's the point
So it makes sense that every time he went back before beating ganon, he creates a world where the hero no longer exists to beat ganon ever
>>341524915
I wonder if there will be unique dialogue for saving the princess in your shorts?
>>341525015
That and the fact that Link is dumped out of a giant machine with no memories of who he is
>there are two heros of time at any time
This has to be the most convoluted and stupid idea ever
>>341525096
"Aren't you a little short for a hero?"
>>341525035
Of course it makes sense, but that's not what's canon.
>>341525096
"Well EXCUUUSE ME, Princess" will be worked into it somehow.
>>341523621
>here, i thought the failure timeline wasn't the result of link losing
Same here.
Basically there are only 2 instances where real time travel is actually in effect in OoT and so 2 additional timelines are created..
When young Link first pulls out the sword, he doesn't travel through time, his body is sealed in order to age.
The first real time travel happens when Link has to travel back in time in order to drain the well in Kokiri Village. When he travels, a split happens.
The timeline where he was originally, the first timeline, now doesn't have a hero. That's the Hero is defeated timeline.
Then proceeds, gets back to the temple, pulls the sword and is again sealed for 7 years. He goes on and defeats Ganon and Zelda sends him back. This is the 2nd timeline. Adult Link defeated Ganon and is send back. This timeline now doesn't have a hero. That's the WW timeline.
When Link is send back, he is now in a 3rd timeline. Young Link goes and tells what's gonna happen and everything leads to TP.
Link actually never really lost. He just disappeared form the first timeline and there was no one to defeat Ganon which leads to the Imprisoning war.
>>341524791
A Link Between Worlds had a mode where you fought streetpass AI controlled Shadow Links that had player's loadouts and hearts. They could very well do the same thing here.
Also, since BoW takes inspiration the most from WWHD, are we going to see Miiverse messages added and expanded on?
>invasion mechanic
>in Zelda
pls no
There was an anon on the last thread talking about the song of storms, it doesn't make any sense. I mad a huge wall of text trying to explain to you why but the thread was archived when i tried to post it.
It wasn't meant to be that way, you were talking about multiple and probably, infinite timelines like in that movie Convergence. It doesn't work because you would make all the other games be like "What If?" Scenarios, when each and every one works in a proper timeline.
Sorry for my bad English.
>>341524441
Breath of the Wind really only makes sense if it's after Spirit Tracks, Ganon was probably revived due to timeline fuckery where he was revived or some shit in another timeline if he makes a return at all.
Also I fucking hate the Zelda timeline
>>341525096
>"Aren't you a little skinny to be a hero?"
I know it's bullshit speculated based on nothing, but the more I think about it, the more I like the theory that the old man at the start of the game is Ganondorf that's been separated from Ganon/Demise's curse but is still immortal because of the Triforce of Power and had a few millennia to mellow down.
So I'm actually trying to give SS a chance now that I'm seeing all this new Zelda. Seeing Fi being basically an AI, I'm starting to understand where this tech is coming from. It's all ANCIENT TECHNOLOGY.
So I'm thinking that the LoZ universe timelines is something similar to the LotR timeline. The first age being the time of gods, a superior race, and the second and third ages being made up of people that want to chase what the old gods had.
I think the 3 goddesses left behind a fuckload of tech, the most prevalent of which is the triforce. The guardians, shieka slate, and the stasis chamber all being pieces of tech that the Shieka tried to use but that ultimately backfired, the guardians especially.
>>341525369
made*
>>341524441
Are there any more pictures like these?
I love the idea of BotW Link being a chaotic jackass.
>>341525135
Okay then. So it IS as retarded as I thought.
>>341525242
>Lunk gains the ability to leave messages for "travelers who discover them over time"
>can place messages anywhere on the world and can say whatever you like (within muh PG rating of course)
>in another Lunk's world, they can discover your message and read and rate it if they like
>yfw reading messages whilst cooking and getting comfy under a starlit night near a campfire
>>341525503
It'd be neat, but he'd have red hair, Anon.
>>341525394
Not really. I'm still subscribing to "BoW is in Pre-Flood times, with the Sheikah trying to revive/create their own Hero of Time to combat Ganon's return".
So how would covenants work in Zelda?
Warriors of the Desert?
Seekers of Power?
Something with Zoras?
Gorons?
>>341525236
Also this, or at least the WW timeline, implies that the hero's soul not only travels through time, but also moves through timelines.
With Link disappearing, his soul traveled to another timeline. Yet another Link with the hero's soul appeared.
>>341525641
Yeah I doubt that with the korok and all
>>341525592
Even red hair whiten with age. Maybe he's not immortal, just aging very slowly. Him being the King of Hyrule would make more sense, but wouldn't be as cool imo.
>>341525236
You know It has never hit me until now...WHY did zelda use the ocarina of time to send adult link back when he could have just placed the master the sword into the pedestal like usual?
...damn it I didn't want to get wrapped up into this lore stuff.
>>341525573
That'd actually be pretty cool, especially if they explained the limited verbiage as "some of the words have faded over time" and you could use charcoal and parchment to make rubbings of those carved messages on stone and such.
>>341525641
bullshit that nintendo would ever make a zelda game that ended with you losing
that defeats the entire purpose of the legend
>>341524267
Then explain how
1. No other game has a failure timeline except Ocarina of Time.
2. Skyward Sword, Oracle of Ages, and Majora's Mask do not create timeline branches
3. The massive paradoxes that occur with OoT and the fact that Adult Link when after putting the Master Sword back, is at the point either just prior and after he had already previously pulled the Master Sword (ie: time does pass, meaning he's also sealed at this same time as well when you're Young Link).
>>341524409
It surprisingly does fix a lot of things, it causes more paradoxes and loops sure, but it's quite clear that they're affecting each other instead of one singular loop where a third timeline somehow branches forth from this. Think of it like Future Trunks in DBZ, there are three timelines, but two Future Trunks. One dies to Cell, and one does not.
>>341525369
While that is true, it's not consistency with how OoT works, and I'm aware it's Zelda and not much thought has truly been put into it by Aonuma and Miyamoto, but look at it this way.
Skyward Sword Link creates a clear paradox, he defeats Demise in the past, yet the Imprisoned still exists in the future, he straight up changes the past, to affect the future, this should like OoT create two timelines. One where the Imprisoned exists in the future, and one where Demise is killed in the past, but it does not, where as OoT has two scenarios, a Link that dies and a Link that doesn't. If there is a Link that doesn't die, that means there must be a second Link that does die, meaning there are two Hero of Times existing at the same time.
>>341525817
>not wanting to bro it up with the best Zelda companion again
>>341525641
How do you explain Koroks and the Master Sword being rusted to shit then since the Master Sword in WW was fine (if not empty on power)
Isn't Multiplayer confirmed for the game? When they first announced that they were working on the game, they said they were planning on multiplayer.
>>341525782
It was already mentioned that Koroks changed their forms at will, not simply triggered by the flood. And they can just retcon it if they really want to.
>>341524791
>Dark Link XxMLGSwordscnoper1337xX has invaded!
What do?
How often is a male Gerudo born? What if this old man is just another Gerudo? What if he's Ganondorf's son
>>341525824
because she wanted to give link hischildhood backbut he was already a man, PTSD and allzelda was a sheikah by this point
>>341526047
disconnect from internet
>>341525983
>>341525983
>2. Skyward Sword, Oracle of Ages, and Majora's Mask do not create timeline branches
area only time change and alternate dimensions
>>341525719
I think I have an idea, anon. Perhaps in this game, there's instead "tribes" you can join that affect shit.
>goron tribe: MUH GLORIOUS HONERUBRU COMBAT PvPfags
>Hylian tribe: Whitefags/co-op bro-op
>gerudo tribe: dickwraiths in Zelda form
>zora tribe: merchant dickery
>>341526008
Ezlo's making a comeback?
>>341526068
Every 100 years, if legends are to be believed
>>341525947
What about you being the one to actually contact the gods and make the heroic sacrifice to ask them to flood the damn place including yourself, since Ganon is an unstoppable monster? In a way, you win but it still floods.
>>341526068
every 100 years if i'm not mistaken....wait....you don't think link is...
>>341525516
>I think the 3 goddesses left behind a fuckload of tech
You should finish Skyward Sword.
>>341524441
Man I love this new depiction of Link.
His memes are going to be the fucking best.
>>341526137
>r-ruining my game!
Pussy.
>>341525824
She says it right before she sends him back: she wants him to return to his own timeline and live the life he never got to live as a kid. And also so that they can avoid the whole mess in the first place; she sends him back to the moment just before he pulled the Master Sword out the first time, thus allowing him to walk away and keep Ganondorf from ever invading the Sacred Realm.
I really fucking hope I can infuse a Claymore or even better a Darknut Sword with Fire and wear some heavy armour with funny looking masks.>your motherfucking face when invaded by someone wearing the Bunny Hood and using Heavy as fuck armour
>>341525719
>Sworn Brothers
Gorons
>Royal Sanctum
Hylians
>River Lords
Zora
>Sprites of the Forest
Kokiri
>Desert Princesses
Gerudo
>Demons of Demise
Ganon(dorf)
>Shadow Binders
Sheikah
And something with Wisdom/Courage for Zelda/Link.
>>341526030
retconning is the entire fucking problem with this series no one respects the lore anymore it's disgusting, plus I doubt the koroks jumped shape so quickly
>>341525947
But it's a possibility now, thanks to the downfall timeline existing.
>>341526325
>Bunny Hood and using Heavy as fuck armour
BunnyNuts confirmed for MLG meta
>>341524441
what if zelda isnt even in this game
>>341526218
I would if the USB loader on my Wii would stop shitting out on me.
>>341526068
What if he's Ganondorf's wife's son?
>>341526026
Single player "open air adventure" (whatever the fuck that means)
>>341526164
>>341526179
>Link was asleep for 100 years
>Calamity Ganon happened 100 years ago
>A male Gerudo is born every 100 years
WHAT DOES IT MEAN
>>341525947
Well they said they are trying to break almost all Zelda standards with this game and make it as fresh and unique as possible while still being Zelda.
So it could kinda possibly theoretically with a tiny chance of happening happen.
>>341526553
What if Zelda is a robutt?
>>341526116
Oh yeah forgot for a sec this is right when impa and zelda bailed out of hyrule...wait....didn't link take the master sword with him to the past and put it back into it's pedestal at the end of the game? wouldn't that technically mean the master sword in the wind waker age shouldn't exist since this is the TP timeline now or whatever?
....my head hurts.
>>341526553
But then, who will be the one to fuck everything up like usual?
>>341526179
>>341526562
>>341526621
This was the FIRST thing people were talking about way back in the reveal trailer, where Link had those Gerudo looking arm guards.
>>341526621
>Lunk is Ganondurf
>>341526621
YOU are the demons
>>341525983
>No other game has a failure timeline except Ocarina of Time.
Because there would be an infinite number of games.
>Skyward Sword, Oracle of Ages, and Majora's Mask do not create timeline branches
Zelda logic says they did, but we haven't seen a game about those timelines. There is no reason there's not literally hundreds of timelines where skull kid destroys Termina. There is no reason Link didn't create a timeline where Demise died thousands of years early in Skyward Sword.
>>341526153
Nope, there are two instances of straight time travel in Skyward Sword.
>Zelda goes back into the past to seal herself away, while she currently exists also in the present prior to her sealing
>Link ultimately goes back into the past to kill Demise (however the Imprisoned exists in the future and no longer does after Demise is killed, despite the Imprisoned existing in the future prior to Link's travel to the past).
Oracle of Ages is it's own continent and straight up has you traveling into the past to affect the future.
Majora's Mask, constantly resets itself as opposed to a consistency, you're actively resetting the world around you in it's entirety, similarly to what Zelda does to Link in OoT, she resets him back to childhood, which creates a timeline itself, both instances use the Ocarina of Time.
Besides as I said in that post, there is no way there aren't two Hero of Times. One has to fail and one has to succeed. If the one that succeeds is also the one that fails, that means he dies to Ganon and can't succeed. There has to be two Hero of Times, there is no other logical explanation.
>>341525983
time travel in skyward sword is the same time travel as time turners in harry potter - nothing actually changes
time travel in ocarina of time creates a new universe every time he goes backwards
>>341526616
It means that in order to get the full experience you need to play with the window open. VR is the way of the future!
>>341526595
So this is the Zelda 3 we've always been waiting for?
>>/vg/
>>341526595
TP is 300 years after ocarina whereas TWW is 400 years.
>>341525573
I can't wait for "tounge but hole" to appear in a zelda game
>>341526621
>Calamity Ganon lived for over 100 years
>It's been so long that another male Gerudo is born
>That male Gerudo is the Old Man
>>341525983
>Timeline 1
>Adult Link kills Ganondorf and is then sent back in time
>Timeline 2
>Link arrives just before breaking the seal on the Sacred Realm and goes to tell everyone about Ganondorf
>Timeline 3
>The child Link you've been playing as up to that point becomes detached from Timelines 1 and 2, breaks the seal and is sealed away, eventually wakes up and goes to fight Ganondorf and dies
Something like this?
>yfw the final boss is literally the castle
>>341526761
>Because there would be an infinite number of games.
No, there would be an certain amount of timelines, not that there would be an infinite amount of games.
You'd have a failure timeline for every game, that doesn't mean they all need games to show this. And for the 3 instances where Time Travel is present in the other games, you'd have a branching timeline from each of those as well.
>Zelda logic says they did, but we haven't seen a game about those timelines. There is no reason there's not literally hundreds of timelines where skull kid destroys Termina. There is no reason Link didn't create a timeline where Demise died thousands of years early in Skyward Sword.
Exactly, Zelda logic dictates they do create alternate timelines, but as we've seen in the Historia, they do not. If this was the case, then they could have fit LoZ/AoL and FSA into any of the branching timelines from any of the games, but they didn't, they specifically put them where they did.
>>341526785
Soooo.....how many doomed termina's did we all make playing majora's mask? Be honest
>>341526973
>start game
>come near old man
>"Beware of future enemy"
Or some bullshit like that. I'd rather not be spoiled hard as fuck
>>341526876
TP and TWW don't have any specific dates relating to OoT.
They're just "hundreds" of years after.
>>341526737
I think he'll probably get them from the old man, much like that quilted shirt
>>341526026
I'm fine with them focusing only on single player and dropping all plans for multi. If Xenoblade X wouldn't have been held back by trying to shoehorn in multiplayer and instead focused all its resources on single player, it could have been the greatest game of all time, instead of merely being a great game.
Is Zelda going to be cute and/or useful?
>>341527023
For the most part yes. Something breaks due to the Hero of Time popping the Master Sword in and out.
>>341526785
Then why did the Imprison exist in the present if Demise was killed in the past?
>>341526729
>wouldn't that technically mean the master sword in the wind waker age shouldn't exist since this is the TP timeline now or whatever?
errm... well...
zelda technically sent you back to right before you took the master sword
so since there aren't 2 swords, it can be assumed that she somehow didn't send the master sword back with youi dunno man, nintendo barely give a fuck
>>341527137
Tingle has a clock on his chest at 4 in the afternoon or morning. Fado has a grandfather clock at 3.
>>341527092
>Exactly, Zelda logic dictates they do create alternate timelines, but as we've seen in the Historia, they do not.
Because they haven't made games for them yet.
>>341527227
>cute
Sure
>useful
lol no, if she were, then "what would link do?"
>>341527227
She's always useful and never cute, so no and yes.
what if Ganon is a babby you must abort
>>341527293
that literally means nothing you gametheory fag
http://zeldawiki.org/Kasuto
>>341527024
>Giant mecha castle boss
>You have to climb it like Shadow of the Colossus
>Then you have to fight the final boss at the top while the mecha is moving towards whatever the villain is after
>You're on a time limit
>>341526047
Equip biggoron sword.
Spam spin attack, I doubt anyone will be able to get close to that shit.
>>341527119
>When Wind Waker HD came out and people were putting Game of Thrones spoilers in Miiverse bottles
>Imagining people eager to see what wonderous message someone from another world gave them only to get that
>>341527369
didnt know itoi was working on this
>>341527293
reminder that fado was the original wind sage and even had her town name from zelda 2.
>>341527369
Then Itoi would sue Aonuma.
>>341527119
>He's ganon lol
or
>He's the king, who caused the guardians kek!
>>341526737
Still holding out on Gerudo LinkBut I'll settle for mentor Ganondorf
>>341527519
>Arrows don't exist
>Throwing massive fucking clubs doesn't exist
>Bombs
cmon man
>Koroks are in the game, meaning that it's related to Wind Waker
>Gerudo are long fucking dead by that time
Goddamnit. I guess it's cool the Sheikah are back at least. Still surprised that SS only had Impa and her fine ass.
>>341527524
Oh i wish i could witness this.
>>341527119
>not playing offline the first time
>>341527369
>giygas themed battle with calamity ganon
Yeah no....hell fucking no
So what's the deal with the Timeshifters? After OoT, oracle of ages, the timeshift stones and all this time altercation in BoTW it's pretty obvious that there once existed a race in Hyrule who mastered time travel.
My question is, why are they gone? Did they died because it seems they could just go back in time and save themselves. Maybe they still existin a different timeline?
>>341527306
>Because they haven't made games for them yet.
But as I said, LoZ/AoL and FSA could have been part of any of those branches, there is nothing in those games that dictate they must be part of the Failure and Child timelines respectively. They could have just as easily been part of MC Failure Timeline or Oracle of Ages Timeline Split.
But as I said, they are not. They're where they are for a reason.
The original point of this whole discussion was that "There are two Hero of Times existing concurrently" which is true, one fails and one doesn't. There can't be one that both fails and succeeds at the same time, there has to be two existing between the 3 timelines.
>>341526325
>Implying you wouldn't.
>Not wanting to run circles around your victims and dodge like a motherfucker.
>>341527365
>never cute,
>>341527645
I really hope they bring back Gerudos in a game. It's been far too long and I love their conceptand not just for the lewd implications.
>>341527109
a lot
but the moon crashing into the world would wipe out all life, not just terminaso star fox exists in the zelda world where the moon destroyed all life - hence the arwing easter egg
>>341527257
>Then why did the Imprison exist in the present if Demise was killed in the past?
I don't remember the exact details, but from recollection, the time travel is a worm-hole type
So at the start of skyward sword, demise is alive, in a sense
Think of it as 2 overlapping lines
So demise dies twice
He dies in his time, the present, and he dies in the future that has access to the past
>>341527665
>playing Dark Souls offline
>ever
Fag
>>341527227
Speaking of useful.
In terms of getting shit done, which is best Zelda?
>>341527519
>Equip bow.
>Arrow to thebrain
R.I.P.
>>341525573
...D-dark Souls? Is that you?
>>341527756
Saved
>>341527706
Nayru still exists. She may or may not be the goddess of time...and in termina apparently.
...wonder if the harp of ages and the ocarina of time are related.
>>341527738
I would and I'd love it
>>341527816
>literally every orange message is a spoiler
Why would you even want to play online?
I missed all the threads who talked about this so I'll just dump my 2 cents here.
>They aren't showing any town at all because of spoilers
It's obviously because they are previous Zelda's town, I'm going with the isle towns of WW.
>WAAAAH WHY CAN'T LINK BE A GIRL THERE'S NOTHING THAT STOP THEM TO MAKE LINK A GIRL NINTENDO LOGIC IS STUPID
They need a HERO, a strong and fit one to safe the day.
Guess which gender is more powerful and fit?
Strangely I NEVER saw anyone saying this simple fact.
>This is not the WW time line!
Then what about the fucking Koroks and all the salts you find everywhere who talk about the previous "great sea" ?
>>341527861
Spirit tracks probably
>>341527861
Hilda
>>341527756
Tetra > Zelda
Zelda is so uncute that her mere lineage jumped hundreds of years into the future and ruined a legitimately cute character.
>>341527815
See that is a logical use of timeline, the same with OoA, in that it causes no logical inherent issues or timeline splits, because of worm hole theory, or essentially Event Horizons if you will, that are connecting two points simultaneously.
Whereas OoT doesn't have that logic, he's just popping back and forth between the two causing all sorts of shenanigans and messing things up (ironic the Hero of Time is the one that messes Time up massively).
And as far as MM goes, he's resetting everything utterly and completely to restart. He's essentially erasing any divergence he creates by overwriting it.
>>341527861
On screen it's Spirit Tracks
Off screen it's Skyward Sword and Wind Waker
>>341527861
>brown sugar
>>341527576
This would actually be pretty great, either this or young rival Ganondorf. He could turn into the Revolver Ocelot of Zelda,
>>341524791
If they really are taking a lot of tips from Dark Souls from a gameplay perspective, what if they do the same with the story?
We're getting all of these clues that Hyrule is like Lordran now, where a bunch of shit from multiple timelines is converging into a new timeline in and of itself.
And the Soulsborne games have all have a story theme of traveling through interconnected timelines/dimensions, where you come across various famous figures or heroes who're long past their prime and are now insane/undead/demons/monsters/beasts or something of that sort instead?
What if the same happens here?
We come across Links - real Links - from other timelines?
And we have to kill all of them off for some greater cause, like they're being corrupted by Calamity Ganon or something of that sort? It's great from a lore perspective and would be pretty fucking nostalgic and emotional if done well.
It's a huge stretch, but just imagine the possiblities:
>Come across giant, disgusting twilight beast boss that's corrupting a certain a region into twilight
>has multiple phases
>beat first phase
>the beast goes full fucking Ludwig in its second phase, changes shape, draws out a sword from its body and starts talking to you- turns out its Twilight Princess Link
>proceed to second phase
>etc etc
or
>led to believe that Calamity Ganon is the final boss
>surprise surprise, it's either the Hero of Time who was responsible for the split in the first place and he's just trying to fix it - or Skyward Sword Link, who was responsible for the curse happening and is just trying to fix it
I want it to happen. I want it to happen so fucking badly but it won't.
>>341525573
...we already have that in WW HD
>>341528207
Tetra makes Zelda cuter
Nothing is more adorable than a tomboy stuffed into a frilly dress and trying to act proper
>>341528424read the post he's quoting
![[Spanish REEEEEEEEE Noise].png](https://i.imgur.com/mbb7nxf.png "[Spanish REEEEEEEEE Noise].png")
>>341527738
>Equip bunny hood.
>Run immediately behind enemy link
>STAB
>Game Over
>Last time you saved was in a shrine several hours and miles back
U mad?I know it won't happen but I can just imagine all the "Zelda: BotW Griefing!" vidoes
Fuck it
>>341528406
>We come across Links - real Links - from other timelines?
>And we have to kill all of them off for some greater cause, like they're being corrupted by Calamity Ganon or something of that sort? It's great from a lore perspective and would be pretty fucking nostalgic and emotional if done well.
And of fucking course we kill the Hero of Time, effectively causing the Failure timeline!
LORE AHOY!
>all this timeline Speculation
>It has WW elements
>But also SS implications
>And you can have Wolf link
>yfwcia
What is with all this retarded Link, lunk, lank, lonk, lenk patriots garbage? Are people just dank memeing like EEnE and KOTH online, except this is where we pretend there are Dark Souls functions in LoZ or what? Literally every idea in this thread is too dank and memey, I refuse to believe anyone would legit want these in a game. I mean Covenants? Give me a break.
>>341528658
>ciaBane?
>>341528658
>Hyrule Warriors is canonized
Not sure how I'd feel
>>341528658
>Hyrule Warriors is now canon
>>341528658
I really hope to god they bring back Cia. Hell they can cover her tits for all I care, I just really liked her character.
>>341528825
You don't get to bring friends.
>>341528829
>he doesn't want the fashion scarf it botw
Gay
So what if this is OoT Link?
![[Glass Him].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aL38XfC.jpg "[Glass Him].jpg")
>Being into "lore"
>Not into symbolism and metaphors
Lore is nothing else but stuff to make the world more believable.
>>341528651
>tfw the final boss is Hero of Time (the one that doesn't fail)
>tfw he's only ever remembered as the Villain and becomes bitter, becomes the Hero's Shade
>this game explains the Temple of Time no longer existing in TP
>this game explains why TP Hyrule has holes and destruction and ruins everywhere
>>341529028
OoT link died after MM
Unless you mean a third link from the failure timeline thatNEVER FUCKING WOKE UP AFTER PULLING THE SWORD
>>341528825
Reminder that Sheikahs are fucking memers.
>>341529058
There's a lot of symbolism too, being totally honest here senpai.
The title itself is probably a metaphor for a major narrative element in the game.
>>341529058
I am more than willing to discuss symbolism and metaphors, but we haven't seen a whole lot of that in BotW yet.
This thread is literally proof that Nintendo fans are beyond fucking retarded
>>341528658
>>341528651
>>341528406
>>341528257
>>341528102
Are these the "PC/NINTENDO MASTER RACE, THATS ALL YOU NEED" retards?
>yfw this link is just a test tube baby conditioned to be the hero because the actual one never showed up
I really want this to be pre wind waker because the huge world would be amazing to see get flooded. Though there would be several problems like the fact that impact is the last sheika.
>>341529058
Metaphors are pointless exercises in circumlocution that stem from times where you could be imprisoned for saying something that wasn't kosher.
Your move, Mr. /lit/.
>WW elements
>Skyward Sword elements
>but also Twilight Princess elements
I'm willing to bet the TP stuff is a one off, This has to be the adult timeline
>>341529058
Well they had a ruined temple of time and a few statues to Hylia inside. So maybe shit is fucked and god wants Link to save it-again.
>>341529297
shitposting sonygger
>>341529179
>link grabs sword to go to future
>sword "Fi" awakens and goes you're never leaving me again master and keeps him there forever.
>>341529297
Imagine being so fucking bitter you come into threads just to ruin people's fun.
>all this Dark Souls shit
Listen here assholes, we know literally of no thematic or story connection these things have at all, why are you trying to make comparisons
>>341529297
I own a PS4/3DS/PC though. If you'd like to shitpost there are plenty of other threads dedicated to it on /v/, go to one of those, it's rare we have actual discussion on /v/ these days.
>>341529383
>Sony fans are the only ones capable of pointing out autistic Dark Souls players jamming their franchise into something totally seperate
>>341529427
>Yandere Fi
Now that's something I could get behind, very hard at that
>>341529297
...You randomly come into the thread attacking people for having a collective conversation?
No one if forcing you to post here senpai.
>>341529297
Fuck off fag, I'm just an excited IDORT.
>>341529536
sonyggers are the only ones to shit on nintendo/pc and use the same golden face and drake images like you did
>>341529520
because the sonyf(aggot)anboys know they literally have NOTHING that can or will compete with this so they bring their shit into this thread and fire off their reddit theories for epic likes and upvotes
>>341529501
Let them have their fun anon.
I just want to cry in the corner when the time comes.
>>341529520
>Autistic Sonic crossover-tier make-believe about awful inclusion of a totally unrelated game into a totally seperate franchise
>Discussion
I'd like to remind you all:
>Game does actually have towns
>Game also has fire
>>341529686
So excited about a game, you make-believe imaginary mechanics about it?
>>341529693
Even if I owned a Sony console, how does that invalidate my mockery?
>>341529826
>the Hero of time can determine a village as being a hindrance to his quest and start a fire to burn it down
>>341529712
To be fair, doing the counter of what he's doing is shitposting too, no offense or anything. I'd rather just talk about video games and discuss them without everyone getting into a shitposting competition, doesn't matter the platform. Personally I'm looking forward to Sony and Nintendo games alike, but that's just me.
>>341529501
Zelda has been a shitty baby game series lately. Lots of wasted potential.
This new game looks promising on lore and gameplay, so cue comparisons to an actual good game that is ample in both.
I mean, the Slate is already a damn smartphone.
>>341529826
And NPCs were disabled aside from Old Man. Really itching to see more of the world.
>>341524915
GOOD JOB
>>341529826
Reminder that the fire rod was also confirmed as a weapon too!
>>341529348
I can agree when the subject is not made in the goal to be analyzed, but it's not rare to have something in a fiction that being made to be analyzed and discovery what it is about.
Your move, Mr. /sp/.
>>341526709
is this chase from kamen rider
>>341529957
>they say they purposely removed towns from the e3 demo
>what they didn't say was that they did this in-game with fire
>every town and every npc except the old man can be perma-destroyed
>>341529968
Gameplay wise this is valid. But story wise? Dark Souls story is no where near Nintendo's intended anything.
>Forests hold great power: they can change one tiny island into a much larger island. Soon, a day will come when all the islands are one, connected by earth and grove. And the people who live on that great island will be able to join hands and, together, create a better world. Such is my dream.
Fuck Link, the Great Deku Tree and the Koroks are the real heroes of Hyrule.
>>341529590
Being apart from link sexy sweaty palms kept her thirsty for all those years.
Is this the thread were we make a bunch of headcannon and call the game shit when none of it happens?
>>341530205
Oh shit, I know there were more of them.
>>341530205
Oooooo I wonder will we be able to visit the great deku tree from wind waker....if he's not dead or anything.
>>341530098
Yes.
>>341530205
>Great Deku Tree wants to completely obliterate the sea
Will he the true villain of this game?
>>341529273
Ever notice how Link is a white male? And he like kills people of another race?
>>341526595
>Post Zelda 2
Glad I'm not the only one that thinks this.
>>341530262
I personally won't. I've enjoyed all the Zeldas despite their flaws (and all of them have flaws, everything does). I'll enjoy this game if some of these theories don't hold true. I just enjoy discussing things I like for once instead of hearing "It's shit famalam dingdong" or "OMG BEST GAME EVA". It gets annoying after awhile, I just like to discuss and have some fun with a franchise I love, and Zelda isn't the only one.
>>341524441
>BotW is potentially the Turn A Gundam of the LoZ series
Wow, shit.
>>341530184
I don't see why they wouldn't go all out with the story when they're going all-out with the gameplay and even the timeline too, apparently.
We've had some pretty crazy shit happen in the franchise after all from time-to-time in regards to a story and lore perspective. Majora's Mask, Wind Waker and Link's Awakening are probably the best examples for this. I can definitely see them taking the plot into crazy mindfuck territory, if they want to.
lol Hyrule is Drangelic
Stalfos are gravedicks
>>341530262
Yeah we're the new replacement for those Phantom Pain threads, along with Death Stranding generals.
All I hear from these threads:
>Link is a robot
>Floating sky thingie is Skyloft
>No it isn't, it's the city in the sky
>This is before Wind Waker
>No! This is after Wind Waker when flood recedes
>This is before Twilight Princess!!!!
>No dumbass, it's the decline timeline, because aliens! There were signs of aliens in Zelda 1&2!!!!
>Sheikahs did 911
>It was always The Royal Family. They started this war!
>Link knocked up Malon
>Ganondorf was always the hero. He knew of the Goddess's deception
>The Sheikah are the Illuminati
>The Gerudo knew about this....
>Din's Fire CAN'T MELT HYLIAN BEAMS!!!!
>Fishmen had to become birds
>The fairies wuz kangs n shit!
>DARK LINK!!!!!!
>What about the moon?!?!?!
>The godesses were Rosalina, Peach, and Daisy
>WOLF LINK!!!!!!
>Link is the demons
>Zelda was evil
>But the Master Sword.....
>The Happy Mask Salesman knows the truth
Miyamoto: ~rubs his hands together evily~ "Gooooood. Goooood."
Aonuma: "Yes, filthy pigs! Continue to make theories! Keep talking about Zelda. It will make you want more! Make us more money! I make Zelda game! You buy! It never make sense!"
>>341530826
>Link knocked up Malon
this is fact though
>>341530826
>I don't want to have fun
Nah, I'm just in here for the hype and the bantz. Also Zelda lore discussion because its a childhood tradition of mine when it comes to internet shit.
>>341530826
There were signs of aliens in zelda 1 and 2? Fucking where.
>>341530826
>>Link knocked up Malon
That's true tho.
And I'm fucking jealous of him.
>>341529189
oh shit the symbols actually make sense
>>341530826
>The Happy Mask Salesman knows the truth
Imply this isn't the truth. I never did trust that smile of his...
>>341526737
this time we're playing ganondorf.
Reminder that the Bridge in BoW is Bridge of Hylia, not Bridge of Eldin.
What if:
>alternate timeline to OoT
>young Link should only be frozen in time for 7 years but ends up being asleep for a lot more time because of some reason
>someone could save Link's body and put it in stasis
>Meanwhile no Hero of Time showed up to end Ganon's reign in Hyrule
>you wake up near the Temple of Time and everything is in ruins
>>341525503
I disagree.
>>341526247
fuck off, soulsfag. go shit up another thread.
>>341526595
Post Zelda 2 makes the most sense.
We didn't really see a lot about the world in that timeline because of hardware limitations, but this world resembles the Zelda 2 map the most.
When the game was revealed and they showed us the map, a lot of people on /v/ started speculating about it and comparing it to the Zelda 2 map and it had a lot of similarities, even with the official art.
Since we didn't see a lot, they can always combine the elements of the two other timelines into this one.
>>341530826
The Zelda timeline theories haven't actually been waging on for almost 20 years now because people actually want to make sense of thingsunless they're actually autistic, they're discussed simply because they're fun to discuss.
No, there's not an actual order. But there's lots of things in the games that can fit together in various ways, so it's fun to find out what can fit where and how. Zelda actually has quite a few creative (or at least well-designed) setting/lore elements to play around with.
LORE DUMP
>the ancient ones lived in the kingdom of ikana
>the kingdom was once great influence in termina, being culturally, technologically and magically advanced
>years of opulence, war and arrogance changed the people of ikana when they discover majoras mask and use their power to construct the stone tower in defiance against the gods
>the mask rendering the user insane, is not used, but replicated into the fused shadow, a now usable instrument for power
>knowing the scale of evil power the people of ikana have, the gods interrupt the towers construction by inverting it
>the people of ikana learn of the great power that the triforce posses and create a portal to the modern gerudo valley
>the great war and the failure of captain keeta to protect the kingdom forces them to abandon the kingdom, leaving with a few tribes
>the tower is sealed so that the evil held inside is not released
>the people of ikana, wartorn and deserted descover hyrule
>the hylians see the people of ikana as interlopers holding intentions to steal the power of the triforce
>knowing their intentions to use the sealed shadow to take the triforce for themselves, the light spirits seal them away into the twilight realm
>the hylians wish to cooperate with the those who were left behind but this splits the tribe into those who cooperate with the hylians and those who stay in the desert, the latter becoming the sheikah and former becoming the gerudo
>it is mentioned that the people of ikana were skilled musicians alluding to the fact that the sheikah created the ocarina of time
>the shadow temple was built by the sheikah to conduct shadow magic passed down from their ikana ancestors
Reminder that the timelines are converging and this game takes place at the beginning AND end of the timeline so the "Zelda Cycle" becomes a literal element of the timeline
>>341529028
Space world 2000
>>341531248
Shit, I forgot there were two major bridges in TP. Eldin is the Smash stage and the major moblin king fight so it's the one I always recall.
where does it go guys?
>>341527227
Well her voice is pretty much what I imagined how she sounded like, and its cute
>dat slight accent
>>341530205
Their colors are different
>>341531579
This.
It's going to be this.
It'll simultaneously be the very first, the very last and a reboot of a franchise all in one.
There has to be a lore reason for the voice at the beginning speaking in actual english and Link's name being set.
This never happened in the series before.
This Link has to be an established character in the universe already, someone who was known as Link before the game begins.
>>341531710
Hopefully after Twilight Princessso we see Midna again
>>341530205
>THey're all the same
That settles it. This is a WW sequel
>>341531281
Oh shit
>>341531710
It goes literally everywhere and anywhere.
BoTW's Hyrule is a land that isn't bound by the laws and physics of space and time, its the pocket dimension where all other timelines converge.
>>341531710
before the great flood
>>341531958
>wanting midna
>wanting non-imp midna at that
>>341531710
>>341531710
It makes too much sense.
Guiz!!!! What if the voice telling Link to open his eyes isn't Zelda, Hylia, one of the goddesses, The Master Sword, Impa, his little sister, or his grandma?
What if it'sEpona?
What if this is link from before wind waker, wakes up 100 years to see hyrule not flooded and is around concurrently as spirit tracks? No zelda game has been concurrent before.
>>341531918
>This Link has to be an established character in the universe already, someone who was known as Link before the game begins.
>>341532042
I hope you're right.
>>341531918
Someone post the webm of link fighting at night and then throwing the club at an enemy knocking the the fuck out.
>>341531710
In the center. It's so massive compared to all the other games before it that it has its own gravitational pull. All the other titles thus bend around it, and time becomes convoluted.
>>341531281
>young Link should only be frozen in time for 7 years but ends up being asleep for a lot more time because of some reason
>Link was frozen
>few years later Ganondorf managed to break into the temple
>the Sheika intervened with TECHNOLOGY and moved Link
>they couldn't undo the magic of the Sage
>they built a special hidden temple where Link's body would be completely frozen and stop aging until the Sage's seal is undone
>100 years have passed since Ganondorf acquired the Triforce and turned into Calamity Ganon
>because of the decline of the kingdom Zelda couldn't leave a descendant who would get the Hylia blood passed down
>Sheikah have frozen her as well
>because of some malfunction or Ganon attack, the system was broken and she's permanently frozen without a way to unfreeze
>because of er power she can still communicate with Link, to some extent
>Voice acting is introduced
>there's so much else that's changed that no one is talking about it
Zelda's is excellent, hopefully the others are just as good
>>341531918
>there has to be a lore reason for the voice at the beginning speaking in actual english
Are you autists fucking kidding me? Goddamn nintendo themselves barely even give a good fuck about the Zelda lore, why do you all? There is so nothing in regards to the lore in any of the games so it's just taking the smallest pieces ever and trying to make sense of them when nintendo just makes games at the time and doesn't think about any sort of big picture, just like every other capitalist out there.
>>341531918
The girl speaking is most likely Zelda.
My guess is that voice acting will be reserved for cutscenes, but not in-game npc interactions and the like.
Link has pretty much been his own character (or rather his own set of characters) for years, so it's about time he's properly treated as such.
Though I do think it's strange he's named Link right off the bat, that means no name change for your save file.
But then again, given the theories, it makes sense to call him Link as he'll be the one who Links the timelines together. That or he isn't really even Link at all, but an artificial copy, so it's fine to name him.
>>341532168
THIS
>>341532129
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>>341529348
Most retarded comment in this thread
Why do people think this new link is a robot/Cyborg?
Im a lil lost here
>>341531710
It's obviously post-windwaker. The fact that Koroks exist makes it obvious. The Great Deku Tree probably succeed in his plan to connect the islands by draining the ocean.
wonder what you have to do to make it through the desert.
taking off your shirt seems like a bad idea.
>>341525983
>1. No other game has a failure timeline except Ocarina of Time.
I don't get why you autists are so hung up on this
Those timelines can exist, they're ignored because Nintendo hasn't made a game about them. Why the fuck is that so hard to understand?
>>341531918
>implying dialogue in a trailer must necessarily be in the game
Recall that the sentence "Whilst thou suck?" has been used in similar circumstances.
>>341532350
>>Link was frozen
>>few years later Ganondorf managed to break into the temple
>>the Sheika intervened with TECHNOLOGY and moved Link
>>they couldn't undo the magic of the Sage
>>they built a special hidden temple where Link's body would be completely frozen and stop aging until the Sage's seal is undone
>>100 years have passed since Ganondorf acquired the Triforce and turned into Calamity Ganon
At this point you have to tell me why the goddesses wouldn't just flood Hyrule
>>341532168
Please explain. Especially how ST would fit.
>>341532530
>sheikah have MaD Tech™
>link emerges from a vat without memories or any information on his past
>clearly he is constructed by the sheikah
stupidity really
>>341532559
It wasn't just in the trailer, it's the first thing that happens when you start a new game
>>341532648
new hyrule island is LITERALLY the original hyrule in the past
>>341532530
Because of the weird goo bath thing he walks out of at the start of the game.
Other theories:
>It's a clone
>He was cryogenically frozen
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