Final Fantasy 15 red flags
>The game is not an open world
>About difficulty, your ability with action games isn’t critical
>A photo mode is not planned.
>Tabata-san was asked about the impression that the graphics have been downgraded from Episode Duscae to Platinum Demo, and he said to please wait for E3.
>You can’t drive the boat on your own
>You can fast travel
>You can increase the performance of the chocobo by feeding him different food, increasing for instance speed and stamina for the next day.
>When you obtain the flying Regalia, if you crash at landing it’s game over, and you’ll go back to before the flight. Unlike conventional airships, there’s actual gameplay related to taking off and landing. Taking off is not particularly difficult, but you need to be careful on landing. It could be tense, but it won’t be that hard.
>There will be a PS4 bundle
I'm scared bros, what the FUCK is happening to my game?
>not open world
GOOD
IT'S GONNA BE GREAT NOW
PHEW
>>339584843
And yet it will still be empty as fuck with a few monsters every now and then that will be boring to fight after 2 hours
>>339584843
The fuck are you talking about? Did you even watch the ATR? Why are you deliberately leaving out information and changing the context of what was said?
He said it's not fully open world in that you go everywhere without any aim, he said you have a set story that you follow. That makes it just like FF1-9, not like shit like Skyrim.
About difficulty he said it's not difficult action because it's an RPG and a Final Fantasy first, but there are difficulty settings.
A photo mode IS planned.
He said to look forward to E3 in regards to improved visuals.
We already knew we couldn't drive the boat, they said that before we even saw the boat.
Why wouldn't there be fast travel? It can only be done for places you've been to before.
How is giving Chocobo's food buffs to change their stats and such a bad thing?
How is fucking up landing of the airshipcar resulting in gameover a bad thing? You fucked up so you should be punished.
Why is there being a PS4 bundle a bad thing?
The actual fuck? How is any of that a "red flag"?
>>339585412
this
>>339584843
good
open world games are fucking tedious, what made ff13 so great was its linearity. More games should be like that master piece.
Do you have a source, any source at all oniisan?
>>339585517
Jesus
The fucking defense is going strong 24/7 on /v/
Why do get triggered so much by a post on an image board
It'll likely be large areas with invisible borders, with a handful of different paths connecting the world. I bet it'll still be completely dead and devoid of anything to do other than grinding.
>>339584843
tell me one FF who was Open World. Not even 12 was you dumb fuck.
>>339585596
That's just FFXV-kun.
>>339584843
He said not fully open world. Not that it isn't an open world. We already know it is Red Dead Redemption style open world and not Skyrim style open world.
It places narrative and story focus first and the open world is build around that.
>>339585517
He didn't even say that most of these things are bad things. Calm down shill
>>339584843
>not open Works
Shit.. i was hoping it would be like gta V and skyrim in terms of how free I was
>>339585596
then why are you here?
>>339585651
If this is true then im buying ps4.5
>>339585596
Maybe you shouldn't spout autistic bullshit while changing context and leaving out info.
>>339585661
>Said they are all red flags
>Fucking image in his OP has a red flag on it
>Literally a fear mongering statement with "I'm scared bros, what the FUCK is happening to my game?"
Yeah nah fuck off.
>no source
Wew lad
>>339585702
That doesn't make any sense. Why wouldn't i be here?
I'm just not playing defense force all day
>>339584843
It was never was. didn't they said it's semi-open world?
>>339585661
do you even know what a shill is?
>the graphics are absolutely terrible and even inferior to the XIII trilogy on PC
>combat is hold attack and defense buttons to win
>dead, empty world
>boyband cast
>development hell for a decade
It's literally going to be weeb Duke Nukem Forever. Just worse.
>>339585412
This, thank Etro
>>339585517
So old-style JRPG with the map getting more accessible as you progress? I love it
Multiple difficulty settings sound good
Photo mode is unimportant
I'd rather have them focus of a stable framerate rather than improve visuals, it's still an ARPG
Fast travel is always nice to have
I look forward to the batwing so much
>>339585691
>that gif
>>339585797
No they aren't
No it isn't
No it isn't
No it isn't
No it hasn't
Nice meme XIII drone.
>>339585596
>say something true
>lel insecure ffxvfags
>>339585786
alright
>>339585751
>this guy said wrong things on the internet! i must come to FFXVs rescue!
Who cares if he spouts lies? It's not like XV will suddenly be a bad game or noone will buy it
>>339585517
>We already knew we couldn't drive the boat, they said that before we even saw the boat.
still a bad thing bro
especially cause the footage makes it look totally possible
>>339585651
>>It places narrative and story focus first and the open world is build around that.
This is 10x better than true open world game. It will be like souls, semi-open world with concise and meaningful level design.
This is way better than open world
>>339585596
>Corrects misinformation
>w-wow the defense force!?
>>339585846
>being this mad
Just imagine how mad this clown will be once the game is released and he finds out how shitty the game really is.
>You can increase the performance of the chocobo by feeding him different food, increasing for instance speed and stamina for the next day.
>When you obtain the flying Regalia, if you crash at landing it’s game over, and you’ll go back to before the flight. Unlike conventional airships, there’s actual gameplay related to taking off and landing. Taking off is not particularly difficult, but you need to be careful on landing. It could be tense, but it won’t be that hard.
Why are these 2 red flags? They sound cool
>>339585886
No, best choice is hub world
A-la KH if you will
Looks like this will truly be... their Final Fantasy.
>>339585871
i won
>>339584843
Nothing you listed sounds remotely bad aside no photo mode. I don't understand the problem, in fact if it was open world I would have had no interest to begin with. And really, /v/ complaining about more gameplay instead of a cutscene landing your car perfectly? Not surprised.
>>339585881
Are you even fucking real? Do you even know how discussions work? OP is trying to say that shit as if it's all bad, he got corrected. Fucking deal with being a wrong cunt.
>STILL no sheaths
>STILL no airship
>STILL no stella
>>339585905
Why would you care so much about a dumb thread on /v/?
If it's wrong then just ignore it
FFXV IS GOING TO BE THE SHITTIEST FF IN THE ENTIRE SERIES
FUCKING GTAV WITH CHOCOBOS AND TRANSWOMEN
THERE CUOLD BE NOTHING WORSE THAN HOW ITS SUCKED UP ALL OF SE'S FUNDING FOR THE PAST 4 YEARS ON A SURE FIRE FAILURE
SE COULD'VE BEEN SPENDING THAT CASH MAKING XIV THE GREATEST MMO IN THE WORLD BUT NOOOOOO WE NEED THE SKYRIM AUDIENCE
DEAD ON ARRIVAL
>>339585953
>Nothing you listed sounds remotely bad aside no photo mode.
Agreed, no photo mode only works to their disadvantage. I'd enjoy one and it gives the game a lot of exposure
>>339585920
>Samefagging this hard.
It must hurt that your little attempt at shitposting backfired.
>>339585810
>old style JRPG
People like you never played much aside the very top most popular shit, huh? I mean many older and "classic" JRPGs didn't have overworlds or a "map" at all. You type are the same who complained about 13 not having one when it's weird to have one in the modern age - and was since the PS1 era - given there's no longer the tech wall blocking them from creating a fully flowing progression.
i don't understand why people are mad about photo mode. most games don't have a photo mode. whats the big deal
>>339585975
Then the thread should've been deleted as soon as the anon pointed out the things that are wrong
>>339585996
But there is sheaths :^)
>create great engine with tons of features
>have to set LOD, draw distance, shadow quality, texture quality and AA to very low because they forgot that they made a game for consoles and didn't give a shit aobut optimization
>>339586021
can't be worse than anything betwen IX and XIII
>>339586012
>Why would you care about people shitposting about a game you are looking forward to!?!
Oh geewiz fucktard maybe so people don't spout bullshit against the game and to diminish shitposting? Maybe so people can have discussions about the game based on actual true statements and not misinformation?
>>339585661
>I don't know what red flag means
>>339586124
>still no ledge climbing animations
>fucking bunnhops everywhere
>character doesn't even react if you run or jump against a wall
>>339585937
underrated post
>>339586021
Fuck off stillborn.
>>339586059
And they didn't even say there wouldn't be one. They said in the final game there isn't one but that they are going to add one in after release.
>It's another "/v/ shitposts an upcoming popular game" episode
Will there ever be a nice FFXV thread?
Since Uncovered it's non stop shitposting and people replying with the same walls of texts and collage images to those shitposts
It's literally the same 10-20 people every fucking thread and most threads are exactly the same and the game isn't even out yet
>>339585519
Wat
>>339586124
Or maybe we haven't seen a final build of optimization yet and they are still optimizing the game as we speak.
>>339586124
>made a game for consoles and didn't give a shit aobut optimization
Your statements contradict each other, they can't make a game for a console and not optimize the game for it. In fact, the reason why you don't have a PC release date is because square is spending this entire year dedicated to optimizing the game for the PS4.
>>339586292
The only people who care about this game are retards and Asians.
>>339586037
Yeah, I should have used old style FF
And I never complained about XIII not having a world map
World maps are good because they give a good sense of size, it makes you feel like you're actually moving around the world without the tedium of actually walking for hundreds of kilometers
It's a great way to do it and I hope XV does it like that
Otherwise we end up with stuff like GTA V or Skyrim where the supposedly giant region is about as big as a small real town
Why are they putting Kingdom Hearts gameplay into Final Fantasy?
If someone wanted KH gameplay they should play KH.
>>339586293
No.
>>339586471
Why are you bringing your faggotry to /v/?
If someone wanted faggotry they'd go over to your house.
>>339586363
>b-but it's just an alpha
>just a beta
>just released
>they'll patch it
I will still enjoy it, but it will definitely still run at 20-30 fps with pretty much no AA and the fact that the character doesn't interact with the world like touching walls when you run or jump against them is worse than some PS1 games.You do the same bunnyhop animation over and over again
>>339586471
Because it's been 11 years since the last home console KH game
2 birds with one stone
>>339586190
Why would you need ledges when you can fucking warp?
>character doesn't even react if you run or jump against a wall
durr
>>339584843
>new
OP is a fag as usual
They ALWAYS said it's only an open-world "technically" or "tech-wise", not that you can go to the final dungeon or city from the start and need to go to quest markers at the other side of the world for a side quest.
>FFXIII all over again
OH BABY
>>339586471
This just in, Kingdom Hearts invented Action RPGs.
>>339585412
This, japs can't into openworld
>>339586605
If only XV had a beautiful goddess to admire like Lightning.
>>339585412
>HAHA LOOK AT MY BIG MAP GOTY
>it's not open world
>HAHA THANL GOD OPEN WORLD IS SHIT BETTER HAVE SMALL AREAS WITH SOUL
yeah totally not predictable 180
>>339585412
This for christ sake.
>>339586535
So you don't know how game development works and just wanted to spout memes. Why didn't you just say so?
>character doesn't interact with the world
So you haven't even played any of the demos or anything. Literally right here>>339586584 you were proven wrong.
>>339586423
One of my gym trainers said he and his wife already preordered. My 60-year-old dad still buys final fantasy releases. Plenty of normal people buy FF games.
>>339586653
Xenoblade X has a nice gigantic world
not sure if that counts as open world though.
>>339586605
It isn't. FFXV is FF1-9 style world and story progression in 1:1 scale world map.
>>339584843
Yeah, not too hype about like of female characters (I would have loved breasts bouncing around), and there's been no good map since 9.
>>339586584
Because you can't warp all the time?
And because there're multiple small ledges that you have to fucking bunnyhop your way up
There's no fucking excuse for this
>durr
Nice argument, they still don't interact with it when you run or jump against a wall even PS2 games like SOTC did that shit
>>339586653
Are you implying anyone can?
>its another FFXV shitpost thread full of false information and contrarian conjecture by a bunch of sexually insecure neckbeards who never had male friends growing up.
>>339586423
Tons of normies buy FF.
>>339584843
It's still consisted of big ass and empty as hell levels just because openness is "in" in AAA gaming now.
Also,
>Boy band
If the devs are still obsessed to have such a big flaw as having a god awful group of characters for all the game, that will make the story so much less enjoyable as I'll have to stand four visual kei drama queens for 40-80 hours, I just can't give it a chance, sorry.
>>339586776
Hopefully Star Ocean 5 will satisfy my jrpg titty needs.
>>339586874
>>339584843
Will it support PS4 Neo?
>>339586834
Those same normies bought 13. Unless they're retarded, they won't make the same mistake twice.
This series is dead.
>>339586693
Alright i'll see you on release when the game still has no AA, runs at 20-30 fps and character don't react to shit like jumping against surfaces and can't climb fucking ledges
I know you'll still defend it but whatever.
I'll just screencap it for the future
>>339584843
Is this bait? Were you living inside a cave or something? The game’s “open” world mechanic is known for a few months now. It behaves similar to old FFs style where areas are locked and you have to progress the story if you want to unlock more areas.
>>339586035
>responding to a post quoting yours is samefagging
How do you even manage to dress yourself without assistance?You don't.
>>339586672
Move the fuck over, lady.
>FF
>post-sakaguchi and uematsu
Good one.
>>339586961
Boring mind control BS incoming.
>>339586821
>it's another everyone replies to every shitposter thread wih the same posts likning back to the same posts they just made 1 minute ago
>it's another FFXV thread
>>339586874
It won't because Star Ocean 5 has barely any cinematic and they pretty much never focus on the tiddies
>>339586806
>Because you can't warp all the time?
You can like we saw in Niflheim footage. And monsters are everywhere too.
>And because there're multiple small ledges that you have to fucking bunnyhop your way up
Or you can just warp.
> they still don't interact with it when you run or jump against a wall even
Nigger literally see >>339586584
>>339586861
So you're just making up the characters' personalities because you never played ED? Even Noctis isn't edgy at all and I was fully prepared for bad characters.
>>339586769
>1:1 scale world map
Literally impossible unless it's minecraft
Do you have any idea how big that would be?
How do you make the curvature of the planet?
How do make millions of square miles of HD graphics?
>>339586961
That looks absolutely terrible. Literally thought it was a generic Dragoon from FF14. Those armor textures are legitimately bad.
>>339587031
FFXV-kun.
>>339586961
I like her helmet but her clothes's design is shit
>>339586861
You should probably kill yourself then because your shit taste and autism is fucking palpable.
>>339586994
You're probably being ironic but I firmly believe they are what made this series what it was. Without them it's just a cash cow that relies on the name, like Apple products.
>>339587070
It's fucking metal idiot.
>mfw people actually think games not being open world is a bad thing now
How brainwashed has /v/ gotten?
A game not being open world is fucking excellent news and means it'll actually aim for proper level design. Semi-open world is about as open as game should ever be, think souls/bloodborne, even something more linear but open-ended like Uncharted 4 is great because you can actually develop goods gameplay and levels around a smaller space that 'feels' open world even though it's really not. FFXV will be more open than that though, and from the trailers and everything else, it's going to be more open than souls too.
Basically it looks to be a much better game than we thought it was.
>>339586912
No they aren't and no it isn't.
>>339584843
> not open world
Here comes the fags saying ff wasn't open world before ffx
>>339587106
>Without them it's just a cash cow that relies on the name, like Apple products.
really makes you think.....
>>339587134
Yes, incredibly low resolution metal textures. Looks like shit. You can actually see the stretching. That chainmail is PS2 era quality. You can *literally* emulate FF12 and see better textures than this.
>>339587031
You can warp to enemies or specific places, but if there's a small ledge in front of me why would i want to fucking warp around it
You're literally trying to defend the fact that there's no climbing up animation for shit like that.
>b-but the engine is so advanced such details
Yet they can't add something that fucking PS1 and N64 games had
>muh >>see post
>>339587162
Aren't what. You lost me, Mr. Chan.
>>339586293
This. I just browse XV threads to see if there's any new info. Just let the autists “discuss” with themselves.
>>339586381
He said
>forgot that they made a game for consoles
For fuck's sake.
>>339587150
Peoples like you don't seem to understand what open world mean.
Just because a game is technically loading it's world seamlessly (like FFXV is doing) doesn't mean the game design/level design itself will be GTA.
>>339587259
You're looking forward to this uninspired trash and you're calling others autistic. That's hilarious, bro.
>>339586912
>fifteenth mainline game
>God knows how many spinoffs
It's totally dead for real this time though.
>>339586994
Sakaguchi blew his credibility with Spirits Within
Uematsu I actually miss
>>339587319
>only ten of them matter
>including online-only titles
wew lad
>>339586293
No, never again. And the fact that noone gives a shit about your post, but every small shitposts gets 10 replies is just prove for that
The threads are the same people over and over again replying to the same shitposts with the exact same sentences and instuls and if their lifes depend on it and when you say something against that they'll just say it's a discussion or guide you to anohter "see" post
I hope you are ready to pay for each episode
>>339587339
SW is a good movie, it just didn't make as much money as it should have when it was released. Bad timing.
>>339587062
That's why there's only 1 continent and some island in XV. That's why they said they can't Remake old FF’s if they're going for a 1:1 scaleunless they seperate them into parts
>>339586919
>BUT IT NEEDS LEDGE GRABBING FOR SOME FUCKING REASON!?GAME IS SHIT XDREEEEEEEE
That is literally what you sound like. There is no reason for ledge grabbing when you can already fucking warp, any place where you would place a ledge grab in another game XV has warp spots and monsters around instead, which is superior.
>>339587465
Max pls
>>339587450
I'm ready to not pay for this game at all and laugh at everyone who does. It'll be the same idiots who bought the sequels to 13.
>>339587394
>Ten important titles
Totally dead for real this time though right?
>>339587318
Hi /v/ nice to meet you. How is your daily salt intake?
>>339587465
Shut up, Max.
>>339587237
Damn you're actually right, I didn't see the details at first.
That's stupid, they would have better results if they just used a metal material without additional details.
But still it's pretty good for an open world game, the scene she's in as a ridiculous amount of dynamic lights
>>339587519
Who? Wait, let me guess. You're referring to some guy from YouTube, right?
Epic
>>339585881
>Hurr durr why is shitposting bad?
Just fuck off.
>>339587465
As much as I liked sw there's no denying it almost killed square and they never were able to recover to the glory days of snes/psx
>>339587070
You must be retarded to not know how metal works at night when light shines on it.
>>339587237
It's not low res at all. Holy fuck this autism is outstanding. You are literally making shit up just to try and justify your own lack of understanding over how graphics work. Why try? No one even believes you.
>>339587339
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuWkvyeAu0E
>blew his credibility
>not just an exit strategy
>>339587617
Had nothing to do with SW. It was Sakaguchi's departure that killed them.
>>339587243
>but if there's a small ledge in front of me why would i want to fucking warp around it
What small ledge?
You are literally trying to act like there needs to be climbing for some reason when there doesn't, when there is already warping.
>Yet they can't add something that fucking PS1 and N64 games had
So again you have no idea how games are made and think just because one game has something that all games must have it.
>>339587705
FFXV-kun
>>339587630
You're blind or delusional. The textures are incredibly low resolution.
>>339587510
It doesn't matter which is fucking superior. If there's a 2 meter high ledge in front of Noctis why would i not be able to just jump and he grabs the ledge like in 100000 other games.
I'm not saying that warping shouldn't be in the game.
You XVfags will literally defend everything. They put so much details in animations and other shit yet there's no short climbing animation
And yes i know reply with another webm and another >>see and nother CAPS greentext
>>339585412
>most beautiful open world ever guys, FF is saved
>th-that's what I wanted, fuck open world, FF is saved
>>339586861
your physiognomic assessment is wrong, they don't give any verbal signs of being drama queens
>>339587465
It was a tech demo, the story was rushed, and the action was disappointing
It looked and actually still looks gorgeous, I don't think there are games that manage to look better and VW themselves only managed to make something better almost 10 years later with the XIII CGI
It's a 6/10, mostly because of the looks
>>339587590
He's referring to Max Caulfield
>>339587680
When's his hip-hop album coming out then?
And why is cliffy b in that video?
>>339587450
That's FF7R, not XV.
XV threads are forever doomed aren't they?
They're not even bad because of the usual console war and shit. It's literally just random shitposts and walls of texts replying to them basicly saying "nuh uh"
>>339587746
No they aren't.
>Combat system is boring shit, turn based would be better
>game will probably be linear as fuck
>story will be horrible again
Blunder of the decade. I can't believe this shit has been developed for over 10 years.
>>339585881
>why have a discussion on a board?
get off the internet
>>339587874
Not unless FFXV-kun kills himself.
>>339587746
No. They're not.
Stop pretending to know shit.
>>339587475
Ok, you know how big Australia is?
7692024 square kilometers
The smallest continent on earth is over 7 million square kilometers
How do you think anyone can make an HD game that's that big?
>>339587940
>these threads
>discussion
Okay kiddo
>>339587510
>There is no reason for ledge grabbing when you can already fucking warp
come the fuck on dude. unless you're not meant to be able to get over a ledge, there should be an animation for getting over it without dragonball bullshit. that's a pretty fundamental way of getting you to feel in control of the character.
>>339587874
Okay, queer. Let's have a discussion.
Why are you looking forward to this game?
>>339587884
I don't think you know what textures are, let alone resolution. The output resolution is clearly 1080p, but those textures are absolutely hideous and obviously low res. Have you tried using your eyes?
>>339587969
Heed your own advice, then come back and use your eyes.
Fucking inbred piece of shit. Link the full shit, not just parts of it.
>The game isn’t set in an open world where you can freely go wherever you like. Since there is a main quest, the more you progress, the more places you’ll be able to go.
http://gematsu.com/2016/05/final-fantasy-xv-main-characters-ages-revealed
>>339587805
he is enjoy living as a rich neet
Is Square working on FFXVI?
>>339587969
Not that guy, but most of the textures we've seen up until now are pretty bad, same with other technical shit like LOD or shadow quality and especially AA
The engine is just way too much for consoles. They tried to make one of the best looking engines and then remembered that it has to run on consoles
>>339587749
>It doesn't matter which is fucking superior. If there's a 2 meter high ledge in front of Noctis why would i not be able to just jump and he grabs the ledge like in 100000 other games.
So because some games have you grab ledges that means you should here? Why? What about all those games where you can't grab ledges? Are they suddenly shit? There is as much climbing in FFXV as there is in MGSV and you still have the added benefit of warps in XV.
You cunts that act like XV needs all these little features for no reason other than to satisfy your own autism are the fucking worst. There is no reason for there to be a ledge climb because you have warps, the level design is built around WARPS, not ledges. In a game with ledge grabs you build level design around that fact, XV obviously doesn't have it because level design was built around the fact that you warp, so obviously you make use of warps. This is not fucking hard to understand.
>>339588185
The textures are great. The problem is the resolution, aliasing and AF. It's going to look great on PC due to excellent models. But it will look like shit on console. The game is basically a high-end PC game that is being downgraded to consoles.
>>339588042
>queer
>discussion
>about an opinion
You're that special kind of stupid aren't you?
I'll tell you what i like and not like about it when an actual good thread shows up, so about 6 years from now
>>339588120
>faggots haven't even played this garbage yet are already looking forward to another
Just shit in my mouth, senpai.
Are Square fans the new Nintenbabies?
>>339585996
>just casually takes off without anything generating lift
>>339588120
I'm sure they're working as hard as they can on FF7 remake to offset the loss they incur from FFXV.
i am a huuuuuuuuge final fantasy fan and have been looking forward to this game for years, and recently i've started to feel a bit pessimistic about it without being able to put my finger on why
and i think i've just realised that the answer is all the fucking fanboys in /v/ threads. they rally to it with such desperation that not only do they make it look bad by themselves, they force the critics to demonstrate every flaw in precise detail in order to win the argument
i'm finding myself scrutinising every animation. i notice whenever anything pops in where in other games i never would've given a shit. i feel completely cold about the game.
you're ruining this shit for me xv-kun. stop
>>339588030
The feel of the character in XV is with warps, and level design is built around that. There is no need for ledge grabs because that isn't what level design was built around.
>>339588258
Not an argument.
You're just a sheep. Probably the same type of sheep who religiously buys every new Apple product that they shit out.
>>339588120
>Is Square working on FFXVI?
>>339588271
I'm looking forward to another exactly because XV is garbage, familia.
>>339587969
>>339587884
No, of course not. Of course not, anons.
>>339585412
But I like ff7 and 8's overworld
>>339588250
Why do you keep posting preset animations for specific objects and not the actual animation for climbing random enviroments like the guy wanted?
I don't even care too much about climbing ledges or whatever, but there's really no reason why the game shouldn't have it. Warping won't solve all problems
>>339588362
But why? All the people who made this series what it used to be are gone. You're like the people who cry for remakes of old Resident Evil games even though modern Capcom is garbage.
>>339588250
>You cunts that act like XV needs all these little features for no reason other than to satisfy your own autism are the fucking worst.
it's not to satisfy autism, it's to have a well-animated, believably mobile character.
> the level design is built around WARPS, not ledges.
how does the term 'level design' even apply in this case? not only is this game mostly quite flat, there are no levels, and there are hundreds of ledges even in the fucking demo. why shouldn't you be able to climb them? it's not like you can feely select where you warp.
>>339587874
There are good threads. This thread is already a shitposting bait when OP just copy and paste and then left out some explanation that were already discuss to death here at /v/.
>>339588047
This is getting sad, because no only are those textures higher quality than any other FF has on its characters but XV textures are already confirmed to be higher res than any other FF res too. You are full of shit.
>Aramaki: To breakdown where all the bones are located, about 150 are for the face, 300 for hair and clothes, and 150 for the body. In order to give them detailed movement, the number of bones in the body increases, but having that many bones for the face, hair, and clothing is something characteristic. There is a bone-based physical simulation technology applied so that clothing reacts to the body’s movements.
>I’d say the capacity of just one character’s textures is about 30 megabytes. On PS3 and Xbox 360, the texture capacity of an entire scene of most titles was between 50 megabytes to 100 megabytes. So if we put a FFXV character in that environment, the capacity would be used up in no time. The PS4 is equipped with memory capacity that is 16 times that of the PS3/Xbox 360, so we can spend that much capacity-wise. Furthermore, we are using 2048×2048 texels and 4096×4096 texels for HD textures in FFXV.
>When you realize these things, that you could make an entire character on the past gen out of just the polygons used in a FFXV character’s hair, that animations are made up of 10 times the number of bones used on the PS3 and Xbox 360, and that just one FFXV character’s texture capacity would quickly exhaust one scene on the past gen… I think the next time you see footage of FFXV you’ll be even more moved by the technology that goes into it.
sqex [dot] info /ffxv-luminous-studios-developer-interviews-part-1/
>>339588501
any evidence that any of those quotes apply to the picture in question
>>339586293
There was a good one when the OP post actually encouraged legit discussion
It was comfy as fuck, too.
>>339585412
this
the open world meme needs to end tbqh
overworlds like in the psx era are the way to go
>>339588501
>gets told
>posts some greentext
>NUH UH I'M RIGHT NEENER NEENER
These are the people that are looking forward to this garbage.
>>339588501
You're so deluded it hurts. Have you seen the screenshot that started your spergout? >>339588373
>>339588336
Not that guy but he literally never said he wants a discussion or anything. You're the one that went in passive aggressive right away and judging by all the FFXV a discussion is just shitposting and replying to that with more shitposting.
And how is telling someone why you're looking forward to a game a discussion?, not like anyone would care about it in this thread anyway except for you since you jut wait to reply with anoter shitpost like 99% of XV threads
>>339588185
No they aren't. The textures are all HQ, the problem is the AA and IQ.
>>339588428
I'm not crying for remakes. Hell, I'm not even interested in FFVII remake. I want a new good game, even if it takes ages to come. I know XV will be garbage so I'm skipping it. But a man can always hope for better games until the developer goes bankrupt.
>>339588617
He was crying about this thread being terrible so I started a discussion. He's a fag.
>>339584843
>The game is not an open world
THANK FUCKING GOD
>>339588373
So you have no idea how textures work. That's all you've proven.
>>339588641
>I want a new good game, even if it takes ages to come.
Brah, just let it go. This company won't even be around in the next 10 years. FF14 is going to be shit like 13, and the FF7 remake is going to be a huge mess. They won't survive.
>>339588680
Alright then
>ctrl+f fag
Yep it's a FFXV thread, you can already see that it's the same 5-6 people replying with the same walls of texts and webms to shitposts again as if their life and the sales depend on it
>>339588423
Why do you keep fucking ignoring what is being said to you?
>Warping won't solve all problems
Yes it literally does.
>>339588460
>it's not to satisfy autism, it's to have a well-animated, believably mobile character.
No it's pure autism. There is no reason for ledge grabbing when the game doesn't need it on any level BECAUSE IT HAS FUCKING WARPING.
>how does the term 'level design' even apply in this case?
How the fuck do you think? What the fuck you think ledge grabbing even exists? For platforming, platforming is based on level design. In a game where you can warp they have level design based on warp points, where you have access to is what determines where points go.
>there are no levels
Jesus fucking Christ I'm talking to a literal retard here.
niggas I started playing Dishonered yesterday, and that game sure as hell isn't open world
and it is so good. Fucking hell I had completely forgot how good level design looks
If FFXV isn't open world I'm getting excited for it
>>339588385
8s was shit and in Disc 3 everything was blocked off for some retarded reason.
>>339588687
>The game isn’t set in an open world where you can freely go wherever you like. Since there is a main quest, the more you progress, the more places you’ll be able to go
The actual translation.
>>339588551
It applies to FFXV as a whole.
>>339588578
Nigger that is literally a statement from the engine programmer stating what the resolution of the textures are for characters.
>>339588596
Why are you so autistic that even with direct statement from the engine programmer you are still in denial? Nothing in your little meme image proves anything in your favor.
>>339588952
It's as open world as Dragon's Dogma just with bigger areas. You'll still walk around through empty planes with maybe a monster every now and then
Only rpg from square I'm remotely interested in right now is "I am Setsuna".
FFXV is confirmed garbage. I'm surprised some of you fags are still interested in it.
>>339588753
I've been a texture artists for years. Would you like to elaborate? The textures pointed out in that image are stretched and low resolution. They just barely represent what they're supposed to be. You're coming off as a deluded fanboy at this point.
>>339589028
For the base model and skin, maybe. A model has several textures. Other than the main cast, the attires are low-res across the board.
>>339589086
I'll hold out a bit of hope for the final release to NOT be completely like Episode "Jog over fields at 20fps" Duscae
>>339588923
Why do you have a jump and sprint if you can warp?
>>339589028
>that is literally a statement from the engine programmer stating what the resolution of the textures are for characters.
Who the fuck cares, kid? Developers lie all the time.
>>339589169
I am Setsuna is garbage according to japs. I'm surprised you're still interested in it.
>>339588923
>There is no reason for ledge grabbing when the game doesn't need it on any level BECAUSE IT HAS FUCKING WARPING.
you keep saying this but it's just obviously bullshit. that you can warp to a point in the sky above a ledge does not mean you shouldn't animate the process of manually climbing that ledge. skimping on that animation will make your game seem cheap and lead to annoying issues, like having to back up in order to get a line of sight over the ledge in order to warp, for instance - and this is not to mention the fact that warp itself isn't freely usable.
>What the fuck you think ledge grabbing even exists? For platforming
let me just stop you there - no, it's not just for platforming. it's just navigating an environment. a platformer means the game is about the challenge of navigating it, particularly jumping from platform/ledge to platform/ledge. many platformers don't even have ledge grabbing. this is a 3d game with open world mechanics and varied topography. putting an animation that lets you scale stuff without having to line up a fucking teleport is obviously important.
>Jesus fucking Christ I'm talking to a literal retard here.
it's an open world, or at least open environments. there are no 'levels' and the game is designed around giving you freedom to manoeuvre across naturalistically designed terrain. it's not crash fucking bandicoot.
>>339589176
So not only are you talking out of your ass but you are clearly spouting bullshit about what you can see in that image, because there is no stretching visible, the fuck do you think metal looks like? It's not low res either as already proven by direct statement from the devs that the textures are "2048×2048 texels and 4096×4096 texels for HD textures in FFXV.".
You have literally no fucking clue what you are trying to say anymore.
>For the base model and skin, maybe. A model has several textures. Other than the main cast, the attires are low-res across the board.
No they aren't, they are all high res textures, the only problem about the image is lack of AA and the IQ suffering because of the image res. If you even fucking played any of the demos you would know this.
>>339588385
Overworld =/= Open world desu.
>>339589190
It'll come to PC eventually so the bad fps will go awayIt being a shit game will not, though.
>>339589313
>caring about what underage Japs prefer
>>339589028
>It applies to FFXV as a whole.
but that's visually contradicted by the image in question.
>>339589438
>caring about what underage /v/tards prefer
>>339589169
I wouldn't look forward to Setsuna to much. It's just my opinion, but i thought it was mediocre at best. The characters were bland and have no character development at all, the combat system is worse than Bravely, the OST consists of too many slow sad piano tracks, the story just goes nowhere. It's starts and you know exactly what to do and in th end it exactly turns out that way.
The artstyle is great though and the jap VAs do a good job
>>339589195
Because you have aerial combat and both are used as means of evasion too, you can jump to avoid an enemies swing then followup with an attack while still in the air. Sprinting you can use if you run out of MP or want to conserve MP by sprinting instead of warping.
None of those have anything to do with ledge grabs which are specifically places in static locations, you already have terrain point warps for that.
>>339589313
Welp, I haven't tried a demo yet, so I'm still interested, yes.
>>339589497
Who said I did? I'm 28. I make my own decisions.
>>339589381
do you see that bit of mail between her chest plates son
does that look high res to you
>>339589260
>B-BUT THEY ARE LYING!?!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jrpgs are dead. Get over it, /v/.
>>339589530
so you're saying that jumping is not actually for use outside of battle?
>>339589598
JRPG moved to smartphones.
>>339589592
I'm laughing too.
>It's not open world
This was a known fact back when the game was still called Versus XIII
>FFXV won't fall for the Open World meme
Good, I was a little dissapointed when Episode Duscae got released and hinted that the game could be open world, I'm glad it's not
TPP fell for that meme and look what happened
>>339586674
>>339587770
People like games with large worlds to explore but the actual term "open world" is associated with those worlds being filled primarily with cheaply-made filler content to pad the amount of time it takes to be "done" with the game. The term is sort of tainted now and has fallen out of favor with a lot of gamers, so I can see them dropping it.
I'd imagine in practice it's very open world-ey compared to your average main line FF but doesn't quite get to the point of your average "true" open world game. That's how it seemed to be from what I recall of Duscae, but it's been a while.
>>339589375
No the only bullshit is you thinking there needs to be ledge grabs. You still don't seem to understand how level design works in relation to ledges and warps.
>it's just navigating an environment.
So platforming. There is no point in having a ledge grab when you can warp, I don't know why you are so fucking autistic about this. You are literally trying to say "HURR WHY CAN'T YOU CRAWL BUT YOU CAN SPRINT!?!"
>it's an open world, or at least open environments.
And? There is still level designs, do you even know what a level design is?
>there are no 'levels'
Wait so you think levels are just stages? Holy fuck you are dumber than I thought.
A level is the fucking traversable area. Why the fuck do I need to explain this shit to you.
>>339589725
It's open world so don't get your hopes up
Get ready for huge empty areas with tons of nothing to explore
>>339589449
No it isn't.
>>339587805
>And why is cliffy b in that video?
Because Cliffy is friends with the mega64 guys. He's done cameos in some of their other GDC videos as well.
>>339589831
Or in FF14's case, a few uninspired monsters.
>>339589798
Why is there a ladder climbing animation and a small "slide over object" animation if i can just warp?
>>339584843
This game has been in development hell for over 8 years.
How can anyone be hyped, let alone hopeful for something like that?
It's going to be horrible. Lower your expectations or be prepared to be let down hard.
>>339589381
Not only are you deluded, but retarded as well. It doesn't even take a software engineer, nor a texture artist to tell you that the armor textures on that chick are low res. Have you seen what's meant to be a chainmail? It's blurry and looks like crap. Why? Because it's low res.
You have no idea what you're talking about, and that piece of marketing does not apply to that picutre, obviously. Keep denying it. Keep calling that armor high res. You can't possibly look like any more of an idiot at this point.
>>339589941
Some people will mindfuck themselves into liking it just to be contrarian.
>>339588763
Square Enix is one of the largest publishers of videogames, books, manga, and anime in Japan. They're not going anywhere even if both FFXV and VIIr bomb, which they won't. VIIr is going to sell like Jesus on legacy alone.
>>339589941
>inb4 b-but it's only been in development for 3 years
>>339589693
>following the game's news for years
Lmao, you're either a fucking autist who should find something else that doesn't involve vidya or a shill.
>>339589575
What part of IQ and lack of AA don't you understand?
Nigger this is fucking random grunt enemy and you can clearly see it's at equivalent level of texture and model quality as any of the main cast or story characters.
>>339590006
You're delusional.
REMINDER: Cidney, aka "muh stacked mechanic" has A cups and is using a technique like pic related. Don't fall for it you nerds.
>>339590009
most of the stuff in the game probably has, but a large chunk of their designs were made years ahead, so that "10 years" thing isn't to be completely disregarded
>The Witcher 3, a game that's a year old from the same generation, is an actual open world game and has no loading times
>infinitely better texture work than a pseduo-open world Japanese game that has been overdeveloped for a decade
>>339584843
>not open world
but we've already seen gameplay of open world.
Have they just trashed the whole world the game is set in and start developing a new one from scratch?
They don't have much time now, unless they delay the game to 2030.
How are they gonna make a new in game world in less than a year?
>>339589640
It is, you use it to jump over things but you also mainly use it in battle.
There is no use for ledge grab in a battle.
Think of the KH2FM critical end game boss battles, tell me a single boss battle where ledge grabbing was needed. Not during Terra, not during the Data battles. In fact one of the battles that require actual "platforming" in KH2 was the Hydra where you have to get on it's back by just bunny hopping.
>>339589798
>So platforming.
navigating an environment in a game is not platforming.
> There is no point in having a ledge grab when you can warp, I don't know why you are so fucking autistic about this.
well thanks for ignoring everything i've said.
not being able to crawl when there are crawlable gaps would be annoying as well, but specifically not being able to grap and pull up ledges when i know there are ledges in the game is really dumb. even if you could warp over them at will.
>And? There is still level designs, do you even know what a level design is?
there's no one clear definition of what a 'level design' is. obviously there is design in the look and geometry of the environment in ffxv, but it's not 'level design' in the precisely timed and organised way that crash bandicoot would be.
>A level is the fucking traversable area.
i'm perfectly happy to accept this designation as long as you don't use it in a misleading way. from everything we've seen the environment in xv isn't actually 'designed around' warp. there are some warpable points but you just straight up can't navigate as freely as you would expect from other games like this. i don't want uncharted, i just want a consistent, well-animated way to get up and down ledges without having to line up a teleport or search for a context sensitive 'hookshot point' or whatever.
>>339589598
Excuse me.
>>339590027
And, frankly, it looks like crap.
>>339589664
>B-BUT UNCHARTED
Which proves literally nothing towards this game?
>>339590027
well thanks for posting another character with low res chainmail, but i don't see how that helps your argument. it doesn't do very well at giving the appearance of being an actual permeable material with a texture. it's clearly a flat black sheet with some chainmail drawn onto it.
>>339589924
Because those are other ways of moving around quicker.
Ledge grabbing isn't a movement method, it's a static position.
>>339584843
>The game is not an open world
thank Christ, now the game actually has a chance of being good
>>339590202
It proves that developers are liars, and you're a retard for taking anything they say seriously.
Post more greentext.
>>339590027
Wait. Are you actually implying that antialiasing would affect texture quality? Are you genuinely retarded, mate? Surely you don't expect to be taken seriously after this ignorant statement, right?
Compression is hardly affecting the image in question, and the image quality is as close to an internal screenshot as we will get. It's not going to improve texture quality. Seek help, take your medication and get glasses that work.
>>339589941
No it hasn't. FFXV once it started full development in 2012 has been in active development that whole time till now.
Versus was never in active development and was put on hold for a long time with barely anything done.
>>339590009
Except it's a fact retard.
>>339590027
Looks like shit, showcasing exactly what people are telling you about. Low resolution textures. Fuck off, retard. You only dig yourself deeper with each post.
>>339590339
Wrong, nerd. It was announced in 2007 and has been in and out of development since.
>>339590260
Now you're just making shit up
Is it really taht hard to accept that climbing up a fucking ledge is a good thing?
Warping up or forward is faster than climbing up a ledge a sliding over an object, but that doesn't count?
