I can't choose between skyrim and witcher
What are the pros and cons of skyrim and witcher?
Help me out /v/
>>339080329
This looks like a massive bait. Why do you need to chose? Both games are easily pirated and both are routinely discounted on bigger sales: Skyrim is regularly available for like five bucks, there is no reason why you should have to chose between the two.
Play both, see which one you like more.
If for some reason you really have to chose one over the other: Skyrim is a game with a lot of freedom but absolutely no substance: you can do anything but nothing feels particularly satisfying. You can be a thief, a warrior, a mage, chose any of the clans and organizations, tackle any of the hundreds of quests. Except none of it matters because it's all extremely generic, bland, dull. The world building is shit and writing and quests are generally awful.
Witcher is comparative shallow and restrictive: you have predetermined character, deviations in builds are just deviations of flavor of combat, the story railroads you a lot more, you are essentially guiding a guy through his story, rather than building your own.
That said, the stories are beautiful, the world absolutely fantastic, full of memorable places, characters, quests and moments. Seriously it's one of the most beautiful games ever made.
Both games are mechanically shallow. Skyrim attempts to juggle a lot of shit at once, making all of them dull: TW3 attempts to focus at few and comes across as restrictive.
TW3 is a beatiful piece of fiction though.
Skyrim is a shallow wish fulfillment.
TW3 offers less hours of content, with all the expansions, you will have seen everything the game can offer in some 200 hours.
In Skyrim, with mods, you can have thousand hours of content.
TW3 makes those 200 hours feel really worth it.
Skyrim does not make anything feel like anything.
It's up to you.
Even if you never played any Witcher game it would hands down go to the Witcher 3. It's basically a massive step up whwn compared to skyrim in every aspect, except mosding that is?
The animations look great and full of emotion, the amount of content is almost unreal and every quest feels alive and part of te world, it actually makes you important and hard decisions to make as a neutral party.
ekhm
10 hours into witcher 3 and while i think its a good game. I also think its grossly overrated and misleading on pregame advertising in that its supposed to be a huge open world with no loading times. When in reality its not that open worlded, but a series of maps that do require loading times to travel between, much like inquisition. In fact this game is very similar to inquisition in alot of aspects. Which was also a good game.
But. I was expecting something new and amazing with perfect review scores and all the hype. I am severely let down. I will take a last gen skyrim over this for a few reasons.
1. The one map open world of skyrim was amazing.
2. The quests and dialogue of skyrim is unmatched, from killing an orphanage headmaster, uncovering mage school plots, thieves guild quests, demon quests, cisero lol, on top of the main storyline, etc.
3. 1st person is awesome. Even the dull melee combat of skyrim feels fun in 1st person. But ofc using magic was much more fun and varied.
4. Level system in skyrim is also unmatched imo. Even inquisition had a better leveling system imo.
Witcher 3 has good graphics, good story n quests, good combat, good crafting, etc but just doesnt live up to its hype nor surpass skyrim in any way for me. What u guys think?
>>339080930
Forgive my spelling, i should hit the hay.
both are mediocre but I prefer skyrim
>>339081032
Just FYI: this is a copypasta that has been flying around the board for quite a while, used to troll Witcher threads.
Please, for the love of GOD don't reply to it seriously. Yes, we all know it's full of bullshit. The guy who posted it knows it better than anyone.
Just ignore it and go on with the discussion...
I would probably say Witcher 3 is better but it could be much better. It would be nice if I could change Geralt's appearance but one thing Witcher 3 seems to lack is differing character models. When it comes to generic NPCs there seems to be only 20 or so character models so a lot of characters look the same. I had one cutscene with 4 identical characters in it, it looked awful and amateurish.
skyrim because mods
>tfw you can't fuck Ciri
haven't played Witcher 3 yet, but people are way too harsh on Skyrim, I think
discovering its world was an absolute joy for me during the initial 50~ or so hours. It's like wandering around locations that are the extension of Rohan from LotR, and it gets the winter vibe absolutely right.
There is a well-paced game in there in terms of sidequests, 2/3rd's of the main quest, and general leveling up. It also allows more freedom in roleplaying - something I can't say is the case for Fallout 4.
>>339080329
neither, both are shit
>>339080329
console? witcher 3
pc? depend on your autism level.
skyrim if you want mods, which all suck unless you just wan tporn.
If you want a good game buy Witcher 3, it makes skyrim look like it was made by children
>morrowind
play dark souls 3
>>339085158
>Recommending a shit game for edge-lords.
>>339080329
Skyrim: extremely dull storyline, almost all quests are "go to that dungeon to fight some zombies and come back" but insane amount of mods that add replayability
Witcher 3: very plot-driven, amazing story and lore, but other than that the world is pretty empty and there's nothing to do, no mods that add replayability
Witcher 3 is basically a sandbox made by COMPETENT devs. Ultimately few mods are made because the players think to themselves, "well that was fun" at the end of the playthrough so they don't have to rationalize their purchase by modding it until it stops being shit.
Bethesda are literally a dev studio who won the powerball, because they make a shitload of money for churning out these fuck-awful games which are ONLY made decent by mods. They have a legion of modders willing to do their work FOR THEM. That is living the fucking dream; imagine if you could do a shit-poor job, sit down and then a bunch of stupid autismals came in and did it properly but you still are the one getting all the credit and collecting the paycheck for the job at the end of the day--not those stupid fucks, lulz. Then you got so greedy you try to CHARGE THEM to DO YOUR JOB FOR YOU, and some of them are still so fucking dumb they're willing to play your game.
>>339085924
I bet probably 80% of people who play Bethesda games have never used mods.
They're both mediocre as hell and buggy.
>>339083031
The reason why people are "harsh" at Skyrim is because A) they have the experience of things could have been done much better, and B) are rather painfully aware that Skyrim's main flaws come from laziness, rather than inevitability of it's design.
The problem I have with the game, as somebody who had played plenty of open world RPG's and RPG-sandboxes, starting with the ancients like Might and Magic and Daggerfall, peaking with Fallouts, Arcanum and Morrowind, and ending with titles like the Witcher or Gothic series is that the games is just painfully lazy in every respect.
The world is big and at times pretty, but most of the time it's actually really rather generic. Yeah, it "feels" like the extension of Rohan from LotR: that is not a good thing, I've already seen LotR being done in a thousand reincarnations and all of them were still feel week and unimaginative to the original LotR books. It's entire by the numbers translation of something that wasn't all that amazing even back when we all fucking saw it in the movies.
For every post-card pretty vista that Skyrim offers, there are two dull, illogical, poorly designed cities populated by two or three entirely brain-dead NPC that feel out of place and have no actual stories to tell. Yes, there is a ton of dungeon, but not a single one of them tells any interesting story: they are just there, so you could mark off another location off your checklist. All the quests are flimsy excuses why to send the player to another same dungeon, or terrible attempts at "epic fantasy" that has no spark or charm to it.
Compared to games like Witcher or Gothic, the world lacks spark and charm, attention to detail and believability. Compared to games like Arcanum or Fallout, it lacks complexity in mechanics.
Compared to Morrowind, it lacks both.
The same studio made much more compelling world, with much more compelling mechanics more than ten years ago. And that is why we feel rather disenchanted with it.
>>339080930
>quest feels alive and part of te world
>lol, just hold down the right mouse button/left trigger and follow the red trail
Do people really think that's good quest design?
>>339085378
The witcher story isn't anything great, not to say Skyrim is anything better.
>>339080329
didn't even read one respone.
i love, i LOVE skyrim.
but i know how the witcher looks ingame and the gigantic, enormous world.
buy the witcher.
if it's a question of money, buy skyrim and download some mods.
don't even trip.
>>339086623
That's not how every quest is though
>>339087103
It's easily 80% or more of them
>>339086810
gotta squeeze in muh typical contrarian /v/ "opinion" of "heh... theyre both shit kid. nothing great its all bad"
>>339086487
A lot of the dungeons do tell stories.
Off my head there is the one with an ongoing search for dwemer artifacts where the people have gone a bit insane, one with strange moving orbs of light everywhere and Blackreach.
>>339086810
The main story arch isn't amazing and the ending is downright disappointing. But the individual stories that you get embroiled in during the main story quests, as well as the absolute majority of side quests are amazing story and writing-wise.
>>339086623
It's a good quest writing and direction. The quests flow naturally, tell interesting stories, frequently require interesting decisions to be made, nicely flow into each other, have some form of lasting impact on the world.
The problem solving mechanics are pretty weak, there is no doubt in that. But then again, outside of New Vegas, I can't think of many games that would do better quest-based problem-solving than that in the last decade - even if Vegas it ultimately boils down to "passing a dialogue-based skill check, or following a trail until I kill someone."
Bethesda sure as fuck did not present any better quest design since morrowind.
>>339086623
yeah that's something skyrim didn't do at all
>>339087189
Give me a percentage of people who think the witcher had an "amazing story", then you can make claims about me being a "contrarian"
>>339087509
I didn't say Skyrim's was any better
>>339086810
The Witcher actually has well developed characters, Skyrim pretty much has no properly developed characters.
>>339087278
I can't recall a single memorable story from the entirety of Skyrim. The most I can vaguely remember is "somebody came here and did something sinister".
>>339087680
ok, good to know, thank you for telling me
Witcher because walking around in winter wonderland is incredibly boring. I can't believe they made the whole map snowy. No one likes winter.
Skellige just barely passed because it has some variation.
>>339087551
I think it's you who has to prove that his shit opinion is not contrarian and /v/-influenced. So far you've given no arguments but claiming its bad like a typical drone of this board
Many people have even picked up the books after completing the game (the games were the adaptation of the novels, if you didn't know). It has great lore for a video game that you can follow through, and a lot of attention to detail which builds the world. Characters have deep ties through all 3 games.
>>339080329
do you like more (1)dating real girls or (2)masturbating to porn all day?
1) find your self a girl
2) stop jerking off and play TW3
(skyrim is not actually an option)
>>339086623
that's just the mechanic the game uses to get you from one event to another. even if it's not very complex in itself, simply having that extra bit of interactivity and the context of "following clues" instead of your character just fucking wandering directly to some marker in the middle of nowhere and knowing exactly where the goal is like in skyrim is a significantly better guidance mechanic. no one is saying it's some huge well fleshed game changing shit, just that it's a nicer implementation than having hard markers directly on top of where you need to go.
the thing that makes w3 compelling is that what actually happens when you find what the red trail was leading you to is almost always narrative driving and not as shallow as "you found this, now kill it or collect it and you're done" like it is in most Shithesda games.
look at the skellige's most wanted contract for example, I fucking came across that shit while I was just wandering around the world when I heard some dude in a village talking about some people getting attacked. I figured it was just some monsters so I'd go help him out. when the boulder trap at the attack site fell, my first assumption was it was just some bandits trying to set up and kill Geralt for a contract or some shit which I'm sure is how Bethesda would've resolved that quest. instead, it just kept on adding additional layers on top of it and the ending of that quest was pretty much nothing like what i imagined it was going to be when I started it. this wasn't just a special instance, this sort of layered quest writing happened with the vast majority of side quests and contracts and it made everything, no matter how insignificant or marginal, feel as if it had a good amount of attention put into making it interesting. the ending of that simple fucking contract alone had more depth than any writing in skyrim did.
>>339088332
>I have to prove to you that something is NOT "X"
it's not my job to do your job. I'm not the one making the statement to affirm anything, i simply reject what you haven't proven.
Your claim is the extraordinary one.
>>339089842
>Give me a percentage of people who think the witcher had an "amazing story"
>Given stats which clearly show the overwhelming majority of people love it
>Your claim is the extraordinary one dude wtf
Backpedalling this hard
>>339090053
I asked for a percentage of people who thought the STORY was amazing, not the percentage of people who thought the GAME was good overall. i thought the game was good overall, but the story was nothing special. There's a huge difference between the two.
>>339080329
skyrim is shit in literally every respect except "muh mountains" (which it loses to the witcher 3 on anyway)
the witcher 3 is pretty good, there are better games to be certain but it is leagues ahead of anything bethesda have shat out since shivering isles
>>339090206
You go ahead and scroll down forever and find me a single positive review that says the story wasn't good.
Good luck.
>>339090637
I'm not here to argue for you. You seem to not understand how this works.
>>339090741
Yada yada burden of proof is on the accuser
>>339090741
>heh kid... nothin personnel but you dont understand anything... idiot, im out of here peace... -_-
>>339090867
Which is what i'm asking him to do.
>>339090908
You don't have to leave, just present your case.
>>339091167
You were the one who came along claiming it's not good contrary to the popular opinion that its great, not me. You might just be baiting though in which case good job
>>339091375
>You were the one who came along claiming it's not good contrary to the popular opinion that its great, not me.
You are doing two things here
A) Claiming the story is "Amazing"(you still haven't even tried to substantiate this)
B) Claiming that a vast majority of players think the story is "amazing" as well
You've done a ground total of ZERO things to validate these claims. Asking me instead of find evidence for your arguments for you, which is not how it works.
>>339081032
>one map open world of skyrim
>one
lol
>>339080329
Play both.
The one you like better play more of.
>>339091681
See: steam reviews and any critic, especially the ones that gave it GOTY. Almost all positive reviews (provided that they're legit, not jokes) say that the story are good.
>Asking me instead of find evidence for your arguments for you
You might just be retarded. You started the argument with your contrary /v/shit of "xD its bad guys" and asking me to find what? The proof that its good? Look fucking anywhere. Your "opinion" is the controversial one here, and you have to prove it with points, which you didn't provide. I don't have to argue shit for my point or prove it in any way, it IS the truth. If your honest opinion is that it's bad, it's you who has to provide the arguments.
>>339092317
So your just spouting nonsense and asking me to do all your work.
Glad we cleared that up.
>>339092634
>See: steam reviews and any critic, especially the ones that gave it GOTY. Almost all positive reviews (provided that they're legit, not jokes) say that the story are good. No positive reviews exist that state the story was anything short of good.
Did you miss this part, retard?
>>339080329
>TW3 makes those 200 hours feel really worth it.
please stop this lie
I played the base game on release, even fucking bought it and went blind into it.
I completed it 100%
the open world aspects are just the most halfassed things I ever experienced in a critically acclaimed game. The questionmarks on the map are 100% worthless, either a chest with useless junk in it or a bandit camp with a chest at the end with useless shit in it.
the witcher 3 is a shallow game through and through once you starch the surface. I'm not even gonna talk about combat that gets bashed here constantly or the most basic quest lines, but also its visual style and world are empty and clearly pasted.
it should never have been an open world game, its open world activities are tedious at best or non existent at all.
Beth is going nowhere fast and FO4 was utter shit, but skyrim being a streamlined dumb downed disappointment was, in my mind, no doubt much better game than TW3
>>339093114
obviously meant for >>339080929
sorry
>>339080329
Skyrim if you like a modding Sandbox
Witcher if you like a completed and finished game straight out of the box
