So what is /v/'s honest opinion of this game now that the normies have moved on to something else?
It's still extremely overhyped shit.
I called all of this already after the first reveal trailers, and the final game did not change my view one bit.
>Full of cinematic shit, including cinematics.
>guns suck, unless you upgrade
>barely can hold any ammo, unless you level-up
>Checkpoints.
>maps are linear pipes connecting obligatory combat arenas you get locked into.
>platforming sections.
>you get around half-a dozen enemies on screen at once, at best. No Pinkie packs.
>rune challenges are just annoying filler.
>everything glows.
>some fucking robo guy literally handholds you through the game, via radio.
>no mods, and the Snapmap is literally just all about connecting handful of pre-made rooms together, with strict enemy limit.
>only 4 players, 64 monsters max + 12 active at once, and only 2 guns in the Snapmaps.
>MP is Gaylo-tier shit.
>Spider is the last boss, and is not hitscan anymore either.
>bosses have HP bars
>ending was literally a slap to face + "lol, look forward to teh sequel, goy!"
>>339066869
This to be quite desu
>>339066114
it's not bad
but it's not worth full price
Bought it a couple days ago and playing through the single player after work (I only get an hour or so of vidya a night). It's really fun, though my cheapass 600 Ti pretty much shits itself on anything except the lowest graphics settings. Also it seems almost stupidly easy on Hurt Me Plenty compared to what I remember from Doom 2 back in the day.
Haven't tried the Multiplayer. I'm hoping I won't regret $60.
>>339067756
>600 Ti
660 Ti
I still like it.
Some parts of the design are off, like how they trap you in a room and force you to clear out all the enemies to continue.
Multiplayer is weak
Snapmap should give you more control over what's in the rooms
but other than those primary complaints it's very good for a modern shooter, 8/10 to be honest.
>>339066114
It's a fucking awesome game and I really like it. It's basically the best of both worlds to me, they modernized doom without discarding what made doom great. They took the good stuff and improved it, and they dropped stuff that was no longer relevant. It's a shining example of what a reboot should be.
>>339068069
That level that is 90% platforming sucks. Rest has been pretty good.
>>339066869
>>339066869
cry moar fagot
>>339066114
>oh a door that requires a blue key, I'm sure I'll have to go on quite a detour to seek this out
>it's right there around a corner
>a """""secret""""" is visible right on the ledge above it
>refunded
>>339068069
That sounds totally rad! I'm heading down to my local GameStop right now to pick up a copy of this awesome game!
>>339068212
Oh, I will.
It's a sad day to see my decade old prediction of devs starting to introduce "oldschool" game design as the latest, most innovative shit, and people sucking it up as the best GOTYAY material like faggots they've become.
What I did not predict, however, was that they'd still jam their shitty reboots with the exact casual modern crap people've become tired of years ago already.
It's all I really wanted out of a doom game. Just pure arena shooting with big ass levels.
>>339068392
At least give us a trip so we can keep track of your valued commentary on video games and the video game industry my friend! :)
>>339068264
that was training the modern player how to "find the blue key," because he hasn't been conditioned to do it automatically.
It's in the "show, don't tell" manner of the new Doom's presentation style.
Best 2016 singleplayer FPS experience.
>>339066869
t.cuck
Shit map design, 3 separate RPG leveling systems, and no mod tools.
>>339068264
>Being surprised the first level is rather simple
>>339066869
Notice how there are no actual refutations to this post.
It's quake but with doom enemies. The environment are too open ended and there's too much "enter an area to spawn in Mobs of enemies"
The default shotgun sucks ass unless you use the l+r special, the Melee somehow misses a target directly in front of you sporadically, and the chainsaw turning everything into a health piñata sucks. Why can't enemies ever drop ammo, instead of just 5-15 bits of health
>>339066114
The verdict has been in for a while. Nostalgia fags hate it, everyone else loves it cause itsfun
>>339068069
>>339068208
>>339068212
>>339068351
>>339068428
>>339068504
>>339068543
Here's your marketers. All you really need to know, if you actually are a part of the /v/ demographic, are in these posts
>>339066869
>>339068264
Doom has failed.
>>339066869
>Full of cinematic shit, including cinematic
Expect it's not, if you're talking about the glory kills, they're completely optional
>guns suck, unless you upgrade
Besides the pistol and regular shotgun, every gun felt and sounded decent enough
>barely can hold any ammo, unless you level-up
Git gud and don't miss and ammo is never an issue
>Checkpoints.
I hate this to
>maps are linear pipes connecting obligatory combat arenas you get locked into.
They're literally the same design as older dooms besides a few quirks here and there, the level designs are a huge step forward for modern fps
>platforming sections.
And? Change of pace is always a good thing
>you get around half-a dozen enemies on screen at once, at best. No Pinkie packs.
Either play the game past the first 2 levels or on a harder difficulty, there are a good 15+ enemies at a time
>rune challenges are just annoying filler.
True
>everything glows.
Turn down the gamma and brightness?
>some fucking robo guy literally handholds you through the game, via radio.
A little lore behind the game is handholding?
>no mods, and the Snapmap is literally just all about connecting handful of pre-made rooms together, with strict enemy limit, only 4 players, 64 monsters max + 12 active at once, and only 2 guns in the Snap maps
True, wish they added full modding support
>MP is Gaylo-tier shit.
Little underwhelming, but it plays nothing like Halo, you're just repeating what you read
>Spider is the last boss, and is not hitscan anymore either.
Big whoop, bosses in this game actually have mechanics, more than just running and gunning at everyone
>bosses have HP bars
And? What's the issue with this? Pretty common ordeal for bosses to have a health bar
>ending was literally a slap to face + "lol, look forward to teh sequel, goy!"
True, but I'm actually looking forward how'd they go along with the series from here
Go ahead, call me a shill
>>339066869
>waaah it's not a literal port of the original doom
>mommy they had cutscenes, CUTSCENES, WAAH
It's a modern game retard, stop expecting everyone to want to play your outdated shit.
Besides, it's not even like the game wasn't true to the spirit of Doom. The game offers lots of backstory and exposition, sure, but for those of us who don't give a shit and just want to rip and tear? Doomguy clearly doesn't give a shit either, and 90% of the ""lore"" is in the optional codex entries.
If what you're crying about is the glory kills, you probably haven't even played the game. It's a mechanic I thought would ruin the game but once I played it I realized how fun it was. The animations are short and fast, they don't stop the action. If you want your health back, you don't hide behind a chest high wall or run away and look for a health pack, you fucking TAKE it back from the demons who hurt you. Same for ammo and later, armor.
And no, the guns don't "suck", even unupgraded, I'd really love to know why you think this because myself and everyone review I've read has thought the gunplay was phenomenal, as is the usual for Id.
Did you even play the game or are you just trolling based on what you saw in a trailer?
>>339066869
DELETE THIS
>>339068856
$0.07 has been deposited into your account
>>339068131
>no counter argument, just memes
Sounds about right.
>>339066869
so you are actually complementing the game in that post? or are you trying to be fancy for the sake of being different pls don't
you're not better than doom appreciate what you got
>>339066114
I personally think it's fucking great. Not 60 dollars great, but great.
>>339068831
>Go ahead, call me a shill
shill
>>339068831
>J-just ignore it
>D-Doom had that, didn't you like Doom?
>J-just play it differently
>J-just change some settings
>PLEASE JUST DON'T REFUND THE GAME
Ahahahahaha
>>339066869
>Full of cinematic shit, including cinematics.
They only last from 5 - 20 seconds.
>Full of cinematic shit, including cinematics.
upgrade then
>barely can hold any ammo, unless you level-up
level up then
>Checkpoints.
I agree on this one.
>maps are linear pipes connecting obligatory combat arenas you get locked into.
Not true. There are plenty of open areas in the game.
>platforming sections.
How is that bad?
>you get around half-a dozen enemies on screen at once, at best. No Pinkie packs.
Meh. In the original Doom, the enemies came in packs but were very slow and didn't give you that much of a beating. In D44M, it's pretty much the opposite. There aren't that much enemies but they can kill you pretty quickly. It's not a bad thing. Just different.
>rune challenges are just annoying filler.
Agreed.
>everything glows.
Turn it off.
>some fucking robo guy literally handholds you through the game, via radio.
It's hardly handholding. He just tells you what you have to do and leaves short after.
Agreed.
>only 4 players, 64 monsters max + 12 active at once, and only 2 guns in the Snapmaps.
I don't see how 4 players is a bad thing. Other than that, agreed.
>MP is Gaylo-tier shit.
>Gaylo
Seriously? It's playable. Not really good, but passable.
>Spider is the last boss, and is not hitscan anymore either.
Are you implying that hitscan is fucking good?
>bosses have HP bars
Turn it off.
>ending was literally a slap to face + "lol, look forward to teh sequel, goy!"
Same as the original Doom.
>>339068709
Also, that room where they lock you in and shiv the stupid story down your throat went on for WAY too long, and the pinky redesigns are terrible
>>339068069
It was a damn fine game, I just wish the multiplayer had dedicated servers on PC
>>339068831
>Expect it's not, if you're talking about the glory kills, they're completely optional
Okay drop this meme, i own the game and i can tell you theres NO FUCKING WAY YOU CAN AVOID IT.
no turn off option, only the highlight, and higher difficulties FORCES you to do it.
Fucking retard
>>339068731
>>339068208 praises the negative comment, how is he a marketer?
>>339068916
Good counter-argument, I really see things from your point of view now :^)
>>339068831
>>339068994
SHUT UP SHILLS JUST GO BACK TO NEOGAF
>>339066114
It's a great game and seeing the underage retards like >>339068731 cry bitch tears over all the people enjoying it is almost as good as the game itself.
>>339069147
It's a better counter argument than a fedora picture.
>>339069116
Besides to progress in the boss fights, they are optional for the other 99% of the game
GIT GUD and avoid damage
>>339068725
>Nostalgia fags hate it
Every time.
>>339069150
Is your comment sarcastic?
I really can't tell.
>>339066114
I think it's a game I'll enjoy once when it drops at -75% on steam in the future
>>339069208
I'm not crying any tears. People who are desperate to lie to themselves and say Doom is good to rationalize their purchase are the ones crying bitch tears whenever their purchase gets critiqued.
Deal with it. The game is shit.
>>339068491
>>339068547
>>339068863
No. Fuck you, and fuck Bethesda.
>>339068856
Been watching a total newbie play through original Doom, with no mods, only ZDoom for widescreen graphics, nothing else. The game holds up better than majority of any other game made in the past decade, and is actually challenging and atmospheric in the right way.
It's also hilarious, and kinda sad, that you Beth-fucks never have any other ""arguments"" than "Y U want exact same gaem???"
Sorry for NOT having downgraded my standards by exposing myself to the cheapest annual release AAA cancer for 1.5 decades.
>>339069018
Do you have ADHD or something? Hell, look at SS3, that game was way worse about shoving cutscenes into gameplay, yet everyone praises SS3 but shits all over DOOM for having having cutscenes despite them being short as fuck.
>>339068731
Uh oh, has /v/ noticed that everywhere else likes it too and started the slide down into contrarianism again? When can we look forward to the hourly "so what went wrong" threads?
Played Brutal Doom for a while and would recommend it to anybody who wanna play Doom. Its fucking free!
>>339069150
Obvious false-flag is obvious.
>>339069362
>Brutal Doom
wew lad
If someone asked me "should I get doom" I'd say the same I said about the new wolfenstein wait for a sale.
At the end of the day it is still an 9 hour campaign of an enjoyable single player bolted with a garbage multiplayer no one with a taste will play and a shallow room rearanger you can't do anything with.
>>339068725
This tbqh familia. It's a really fun game but it's not a 1:1 port of Doom, so if you want that just go play the original Doom. If you wanna play the new Doom and have fun with that, then play it.
>>339066869
>no Pinkie packs
This is bullshit. They very rarely show up alone and are usually in groups. I just did a fight with four Spectres in the Crucible (I think that's what it's called? Whichever level has Icon of Sins head).
ordered doom '16
what of the backlog is worth going through when im done?
-doom
-doom 2
-final doom
-doom 64
-doom 3
?
>>339069331
>Hell, look at SS3, that game was way worse about shoving cutscenes into gameplay,
Are you high or something? SS3 really has no cutscenes IN the gameplay, and unlike D44M, you can skip them.
>>339066114
It's really entertaining; something that I get the urge to play for an hour, make some progress, and then stop playing.
It has crashed on me about 5 times though.
>>339069331
What game were you playing? Its literally a 5 minute cutscene when they give you some random artifact
>>339069430
all of them
>>339069430
/vr/ has a whole infographic for what you should get.
>>339069430
>starting with new doom
Don't play the rest, you'll hate them.
>>339069437
The point im getting at is that SS3 is far more obnoxious about shoving in a story than DOOM is.
>>339069261
>you can turn it off
>gets called out
>lol git gud
a shill in denial i see
It's hard to criticize new DOOM without looking snobby
Is it a perfect game? fuck no but a good game is a good game.
Don't be that guy
>>339069430
Cancel your order.
Play old games first, that order is ok.
When you are finished get D44M cheaper
Don't start with the reboot.
>>339069430
>ordered doom '16
Cancel this you dumb cunt, read the thread.
>>339066114
>can't see your legs
my only gripe really and I don't give a shit about multi unless if it was Quake
It's great. Difficulty is there, ammo conservation and weapon diversity are great, aesthetics are perfect, pacing is good.
If the soundtrack was more metal it would be a 10/10, instead it's just a 9.5/10.
I can't play it yet because I only just bought myself a 750ti, but it's nice to have an actual rooty-tooty to look forward to.
I'll get another year out of this card then get Doom for about £10-20 and enjoy the fuck out of it
I already have a convincing-sounding rip of the soundtrack and it's been in my ears for a couple of weeks now
>>339066869
>Full of cinematic shit, including cinematics.
There's like three cut scenes in the whole game.
>guns suck, unless you upgrade
The supershotty, gauss canon, chain gun, and rifle are all great starting out. Plasma rifle and combat shotgun get weak pretty fast though
>barely can hold any ammo, unless you level-up
First, finding the armor upgrades is stupid easy, most of them are literally in your way, and second, this is to balance the ammo explosion the chainsaw does
>Checkpoints.
Not being able to save whenever is annoying, yes.
>maps are linear pipes connecting obligatory combat arenas you get locked into.
Maybe the first two, but most of the levels after that allow some freedom in how you tackle them
>platforming sections.
Are fun.
>you get around half-a dozen enemies on screen at once, at best. No Pinkie packs.
Okay, so I now I know you haven't played the game, because the last few levels has Pinkie packs
>rune challenges are just annoying filler.
So ignore them? Your complaint is seriously having extra content?
>everything glows.
Health, ammo, and armor glow because it'd be impossible to fucking see them during combat otherwise. You know bright fucking green stuck out in DOOM 1 and 2, right?
>some fucking robo guy literally handholds you through the game, via radio.
And this impacts the gameplay how?
>no mods, and the Snapmap is literally just all about connecting handful of pre-made rooms together, with strict enemy limit.
Yeah, I agree that's bullshit
>only 4 players, 64 monsters max + 12 active at once, and only 2 guns in the Snapmaps.
Also bullshit.
>MP is Gaylo-tier shit.
Sure is
>Spider is the last boss, and is not hitscan anymore either.
You mean the thing that literally everyone bitched about before they changed it?
>bosses have HP bars
That you can turn off in the options
>ending was literally a slap to face + "lol, look forward to teh sequel, goy!"
So just like DOOM, okay.
Game is a resounding "meh" just like New Order and Shadow Warrior.
Yet another exercise in reviving old fps caring only about the surface appearance of the franchise rather than the substance.
>>339066869
>>339069742
You couldn't see your legs in the original Doom so it's accurate.
>>339069607
Anon said he was being forced into doing them at gunpoint by a Bethesda employee on the higher difficulties.
What Anon didn't say was he was getting hit and suddenly found himself desperate for demon cock to restore his health.
>>339069430
Play the originals first you fucking fruitcake
>>339069783
>There's like three cut scenes in the whole game.
jesus, this is some next level delusion
>>339069430
Why is that I am seeing Doom 64 mentioned so often lately?
>>339069834
>it's not in the original so why do you want it here!?
t. Bethesda
>>339069901
>jesus, this is some next level delusion
not even him you fucking faggot but he is right. I just played through the game and there's 3 cutscenes where you can't move.
>>339066869
>Full of cinematic shit, including cinematics.
If you're talking about glory kills, they last 1 second
>guns suck, unless you upgrade
okay
>barely can hold any ammo, unless you level-up
thats why the chainsaw exists, and why ammo is scattered out
>Checkpoints.
They work fairly well considering levels are 200x longer than in Doom 1 or 2
>maps are linear pipes connecting obligatory combat arenas you get locked into.
That is objectively wrong tho.
The levels are very open and very labyrinth-like
Did you even play the game?
>platforming sections.
...okay?
>you get around half-a dozen enemies on screen at once, at best. No Pinkie packs.
lol there is that six enemies lie again
PLAY THE FUCKING GAME NIGGER
>rune challenges are just annoying filler.
Rune challenges give you upgrades and make you more powerful, that and you don't need to do them
>everything glows.
you can turn it off
>some fucking robo guy literally handholds you through the game, via radio.
he tells you story, which you can easily ignore. No handholding
>no mods
this makes me fucking mad tho
>only 4 players, 64 monsters max + 12 active at once, and only 2 guns in the Snapmaps.
>MP is Gaylo-tier shit.
Very true
>bosses have HP bars
...and?
>ending was literally a slap to face + "lol, look forward to teh sequel, goy!"
True.
Other than that you obviously haven't played the game
>>339069901
what? Do you count those 3 second introductions to new enemies too?
>>339069301
So your argument against the new Doom boils down to
>the old one is more challenging and atmospheric
Ignoring the fact that "atmospheric" means nothing at all, it's pretty hard to measure how challenging a game is because that's subjective.
As a whole, I'd say that the new Doom can be pretty damn challenging on the highest difficulty (Ultra-Nightmare). However, I think you're right in saying that the older Doom is more challenging overall.
That being said, that doesn't mean Doom 2016 isn't worth playing. Sure it's not as hard but it's still difficult enough if you pick the higher difficulties and challenge yourself. To me, games should be fun foremost, challenge exists to help that fun happen. And both Doom and Doom 2016 are really fun games in their own ways.
I can go more in depth about why I thought the mechanics and gunplay were good if you want. You already played the game though so you probably have your own opinions.
>>339069587
How's so?
SS3's "plot" is literally a reskinned version of DooM's: People discover ancient tech, try to use it to spread into universe, open a can of whoopass and get mauled by an alien race, against which only one tough guy is the humanity's only hope.
That's it, and even MC doesn't care about anything else than killing Mental's hordes and surviving.
How fast/slow is Doom 4 compared with the original two games?
>>339069968
Bullshit. Youtube has loads of cutscenes. Even if you're able to move, it's still a cutscene, you dumb nigger.
I grew up playing and watching my dad play Doom. It was literally the first videogame I recall being exposed to.I genuinely enjoy this new Doom and it is in fact the most fun I've had with a FPS in a long time.
>>339070053
>Even if you're able to move, it's still a cutscene
>>339070041
>SS3's "plot" is literally a reskinned version of DooM
>he thinks DooM came before SS3
WEW
>>339069968
>there's 3 cutscenes where you can't move.
being locked in a small room where you can turn around or maybe move a little but not do anything else, while you listen to some boring dialogue counts too
>>339070052
It's faster than all three
>>339069783
>>339070014
SHUT UP SHILLS
>>339070120
this
feels good to have put over 100 hours in all the previous games and halfway there on the new one
all DOOM games are great
There are too many HOL UP WAIT A MINUTE parts for a Doom game. Nobody gives a shit about "muh hell power no dewguy u r the demons" in DOOM.
>>339070120
You're a dumb hipster. Go actually play the old games to realize how shitty this one is.
>>339070053
those 1 hour long cutscene videos also include gameplay, you dumb fuck
>>339068264
Just for (you)
>>339070251
lol shut the fuck up, you angry faggot.
>>339070126
>>339070281
So we have atleast two marketers still around ready to pounce on people who are telling the truth about this cinematic """"game"""" that is Doom. Holy shit.
>>339070052
Pretty fast, my only complaint was that you couldn't make yourself go super fast by shooting a rocket at the ground beneath you.
>>339070251
>lol this new kid aint cool like us real gamurrs huh!? old school is always better!!!! xD
kys
>>339070053
>games should have no cinematics ever at all for any length of time
You know, I wish this could be true, but it just isn't anymore. Modern audiences expect some level of cinematics, and DOOM 4 is about as unobtrusive about it as they come these days.
>>339069116
The glory kills keep me playing just so I can kick someone in the face with their own foot.
What? You don't like kicking people in the face with their feet? You gay son?
>>339068993
No one stutters like this IRL, weeb.
>>339070370
you can though with the gauss rifle
>>339070380
It's like he doesn't realize he's the hipster in this situation.
>>339070382
>DOOM 4 is about as unobtrusive about it as they come these days.
name one modern game besides doom where you cant skip any cutscenes
>>339069904
It's a good game and more people heard of DOOM 64 EX I guess
>>339066114
>now that the dust has settled
fuck off
>>339070364
Nobody who tells the truth about a game is a marketer, you stupid, stupid cunt.
>>339070251
You can like the old and the new anon
>>339070053
>Even if you're able to move, it's still a cutscene
>>339069783
>>339070014
>boy, it sure is fun to literally pause the game every 5 seconds to watch a pre-canned animation play and kill the Pinata enemies for you!
>this new cancer thing is OK because it counters this OTHER modern cancer thing they added
>...but you can ignore them if you wish, and crawl through the unbalanced mud this game is, if you so desire!
>oh, and you can literally turn off half of the game, to make it more tolerable to look at!
>All that exposition and forced sitting down in front of things certainly is exactly like in your classic Doom games of 1993!
>>339069904
Because it's a superb Doom game, and just recently got a good PC port, in form of the Doom 64 EX.
Most people literally never got to play it, as it was N64 exclusive. Some who might've had the chance also ignored it, thinking it was just another console-port of Doom 1.
In reality, it's a direct sequel to Doom 2, and has one of the best endings of the series. It also uses the PSX Doom's sounds and music.
>>339070487
I was telling the truth. The game is riddled with cutscenes. It's a modern game in every sense of the word, complete with all the stupid shit.
>>339070364
>implying
holy fucking shit. How can anyone be so desperate? Just accept that it's a good game, you edgy dickhead.
>>339070053
>gets proven wrong
>better move goalposts.
>>339070334
>>339070364
>anyone who disagrees with my opinion is a marketer
Epic. Canceled my order, refunded Doom, mailed in my two weeks notice to Id's marketing department.
>>339068693
>People act like they won because no one argues against the shit poster
>Argue against the shit poster
>>339070185
>>339070364
>SHILL! SHILL! SHILL!
What the holy fuck is wrong with this place.
>>339070053
>Youtube has loads of cutscenes
so what you're saying is you haven't even played the game? lmfao
>>339070160
DooM DID come out in fucking 1993, you illiterate console moron.
SS3 came out in 2011.
DOOM, aka D44M , came out last week.
Fuck I hate this modern naming convention.
>>339070654
Link a crack you fucking cunt. Or get me a key, either works, and I'll tear your shitty game apart with screenshots too.
>>339070739
Hol up are you false flagging
>>339070739
>commenting on a game you haven't even played
Good job being a part of the cancer that is killing /v/
>>339070538
I basically never used the glory kills cause I didn't need them. If anything, it's to help new players. You shouldn't need to use them every 5 seconds if you're not getting hit.
>>339070364
Joining the dog pile to call you a fucking cunt.
Like almost everything except
>Mobs that could stand to be bigger
>Glory kills being a bit too effective at times (spray with the plasma rifle for 5 seconds or press F)
>Poor moddability
>>339070862
>I have no original thoughts of my own
Oh fuck off.
>>339070739
>Admits he hasn't played the game he's trying to shit on
Typical
>>339070538
>5 seconds to watch a pre-canned animation play and kill the Pinata enemies for you!
First off its like half a second
and second the enemies have to be damaged
Its more akin to MGR:R then press x to win
>and crawl through the unbalanced mud this game is, if you so desire
Its not even unbalanced. You can get thru it without glory killing once if you don't suck
>skip half of the game
How exactly?
>All that exposition and forced sitting down in front of things certainly is exactly like in your classic Doom games of 1993!
The story isn't even forced at all, its easily ignorable
At least watch footage of the game
>>339070364
Reminder that this shit right here is why /v/ has been terrible for years
>>339070809
I'm aware there's no crack, which is a fucking shady practice on the part of Bethesda by locking away the game from legitimate criticism.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2gQQUjx3j8
>>339070364
TORtanic was a fucking mistake
>>339070739
Hahaaha holy shit, I think I get it now, I get why those two guys in this thread keep attacking the new Doom and saying it's complete shit. Besides the fact that they're being contrarian.
They can't afford it. They actually, unironically can't afford to pay for a single $60 video game. And they can't pirate it because of Denuvo. And the original Doom is not only free, but is one of the few things that can run on their toasters, so they think it's the best thing ever.
Holy shit, this is hilarious. Please stop, I feel kind of embarrassed for you.
i've never seen a game shilled this aggressively here
the instant someone points out a flaw in the game, ten people jump at him, screaming obscenities and shitting out pastas
what the hell happened
If I find that collector's edition of Doom 3 for the heug bawks, should I get it?
>>339071186
There haven't been demos for years. That's why downloading the game off a torrent site and trying it first before buying it was a legitimate alternative. If they are too lazy to make a demo, I have to demo it some other way.
Now they want my money first for the full product before I get to try and see if I even like it.
>>339071180
>waah I'm being retarded and people are insulting me DD:
>>339071180
>i've never seen a game shilled this aggressively here
Overwatch? I filtered those threads, though.
>>339071058
Now if you weren't a false flagging nigger you would rightfully be complaining about no demo
>>339071180
>people like a game
>"wow look at all these shills"
You are everything that is wrong with modern /v/.
D44M is remarkably similar to the Shadow Warrior reboot and just as mediocre.
Same dumb unecessary rpg elements.
Same weakass weapons without upgrades.
Same emphasis on meele only it's executions.
Same level design of a sequence of small arenas like an anal bead only it doesnt rank y
you.
But hurrr doomguy rip and tear it's like brutal doom bro
I give it a C+
ok autists calm down no one is going to take away the beloved old Doom away from you it's still there for you
Think of this new DOOM game as a swan song for the old bad ass shooters and classic fps game design.
>>339071325
They don't like it enough to play it.
>>339071180
Don't be retarded, the game does have flaws, but most criticisms always boil down to idiots saying it's too casualized and NOT MUH ORIGINAL DOOM, without actually going into detail. And when they do go into detail, it's revealed that all their gripes are just personal prefs
>>339071180
People are defending it because it's a good game, not because they're being paid to, TORbabby. The contrarian "every new game is shit" people are killing vidya discussion on /v/ and this is the reaction to that.
>>339071383
>no mods allowed
>>339066114
Why doe everything have to glow? Stay tuned for the fucking sequel with an objective compass.
>>339071180
I'm defending it because it's pretty obvious the people who are pointing out flaws haven't actually played the game. Their arguments are either patently false or grossly over-inflated.. We finally get a good, fun, not broken AAA game, and /v/ can't stop shitting itself long enough to see it.
Why are they trying their hardest to hide Doomguy's face, you have it glued to your HUD in OG Doom. They should have done the same thing they did with BJ's face.
>>339071539
>pay for this DLC pack to unlock these five new rooms for SnapMap!!
>>339071543
I mean it at least makes sense because you have a high tech HUD helmet
>>339071543
You know you can turn that off, right? Literally all of it, the glow, the compass, objectives, you can even turn off health/armor/ammo display. Personally I played with no glow for staggering and it was more enjoyable. You had to watch the enemy's movements and see if they were acting dazed rather than just looking for the glowing color.
>>339071180
You are the reason /v/ is terrible.
>>339071180
No pirating so people can't actually form an opinion on it without shelling $40 on a shady key site and thus viral marketers are free to market it without anyone calling them out.
Add to that that the Asian Jew took out "advertising" from the report button and you got a case of pure advertising.
>>339070940
Oh no, i independently arrived to the conclusion that you are a cunt on my own, after reading your posts, not theirs.. I just wasn't going to tell you how shitty you are as a human and a poster until i saw others doing so. You really are that shit. And you are still a cunt
>>339071543
It does have a compass, play the game sometime.
>>339071405
>steam is everything guys!
>and amount of players shows the quality of a game!
>>339071539
Maybe they'll allow mods in the future but obviously they want snapmap to be successful first.
Having something like snapmap on consoles these days it's the new popular thing.
>>339066114
its a good game.
>>339066869
>>339071842
>"""good""" game
>no more than a couple weeks old
>population has never reached 40k players at any time
>has a difficult time even reaching 5 digits
>b-b-but you havent even played
>anyone who played it would know it's a perfect game with no flaws dumb pirate scum XD
>>339071779
>people can't actually like things I don't like
>it must be a conspiracy!! They're all marketers!
Welp, you got me. I'm actually Hodd Toward, senior marketing director at Bethesda Softworks. My team and I have been shilling the game relentlessly on /v/ because we know what a popular and important gaming site 4chan is. Marketers want to reach a broad audience and /v/ is clearly the place to do that.
Too bad you found me out! Pack it up boys, let's go home.
>>339071405
Still more people playing then Blunderborn
>>339066869
>Full of cinematic shit, including cinematics.
Stopped reading there. There is no way someone in 2016 can think the amount of cutscenes D44M has is "too much".
It's like the flaws that are there aren't enough for people. Snapmap is stupidly limited, and multiplayer may as well not even be there. Some of the later levels feel like more of a slog than anything, and it'd be nice to have more enemies at a time. But fuck, why make up problems or complain about literally optional features? Argue the things that are actually bad instead of making shit up because you want to hate it.
>>339068831
You are the only voice of reason in this destined from the start to be shit thread.
10/10 reply, wish we could be steam friendos
>>339072135
Tactical errors have been made. Mission abort.
>>339072105
Holy shit
>>339072135
Yes sir.
>>339072189
Tbh I love the game but the multi-player sucks cock and snapmap is limited. That being said it's a phenomenal single player game, and I think the people who are trying to say it's shit have to grasp at straws to criticize the single player. Hence why they say stuff like "It's not atmospheric enough" or "why are there characters with voices" etc.
>>339072105
Neo-v WILL defend this
>>339066869
just an FYI, glory kill highlights and hud elements (including boss healthbars) can all be turned off in the options menu, which is exactly what I did in my playthrough.
Also the hardest difficulty has no checkpoints. As in you die and you restart the game. The rest of your post was refuted by at least three other anons so I'm not even going to bother.
Personally I wish MP was a little more fleshed and did away with demon spawns and weapon loadouts, as well as increase movement speed for a better arena shooter experience. The only game mode I've really had any lasting amounts of fun is freeze tag and at that I literally only play MP for more armor customization options.Bosses were kinda lame tho
>>339072404
>people who say it's not atmospheric enough are also the same people who complain about the "cutscenes"
Why are they such faggots anon? It's like they went into D44M just LOOKING for things to hate about it
>>339066869
Few things wrong here.
>yes
>nah, rocket launcher gauss and ssg are all perfectly useable without upgrades
>true
>true
>true
>true
>untrue, plenty of encounters have far more than a half dozen enemies at a time, although there are no pinky packs yes
>I think some of the runes should have been available from the start along with the Dexterity chain
>true but you can disable a lot of glows
>not really, he only speaks like 4 times in the whole game
>not at all
>snapmap allows for 64 preplaced demons on a map and an infinite amount of demons via spawners and encounters, one AI mode that automates it is literally endless waves of demons until all players are dead, but yes only 12 active at once and only 2 guns at a time without exploiting functions a shitton and sadly only 4 players max
>true
>>>>implying this is bad, Doom 2's "final boss" was shit, would have just preferred a difficult encounter or another cyberdemon
>you can disable this
>yeah but it managed to resolve the original conflict entirely so I'm cool with it, it didn't cut the existing story in two it just leaves room for a second story on top of it
It's a mixed bag but overall I really loved DOOM. Snapmap isn't nearly as limited as I thought it was but it is exceedingly complicated to use.
To the point I wish we just had full mod tools, they'd be just as obtuse to use but not limited.
>>339072135
/v/ gets at least a million visitors each day and 5 years ago its memes were put on Battlefield 3 to catch retards too.
>>339069116
>and higher difficulties FORCES you to do it.
Are you serious? You get shit on if you use it flippantly in Nightmare, they'll line up shots that almost one hit kill you while you're stuck in the animation. You have to avoid using it completely or be very careful on Nightmare
Literally the exact opposite of what you're saying.
>>339072582
>just an FYI, glory kill highlights and hud elements (including boss healthbars) can all be turned off in the options menu, which is exactly what I did in my playthrough.
This is like line 1 of every Bethesda post.
Singe player is fantastic. Best shooter in years.
Multiplayer is okay. It could be great with some changes.
Snapmap is shit. Should've done real mods.
>>339071059
How stupid you must feel after you realise you wasted all that time making a video based on awful marketing.
>>339072665
Why is having options bad? I don't get it. They included something you don't like, but let you turn it off. Some people probably enjoy the glory kills, why the fuck do you care how other people have fun? More options is never a bad thing.
>>339066869
Would you shut the fuck up with 'literally'?
Nobody held my hand and nobody slapped me in the face.
>>339072605
>snapmap allows for 64 preplaced demons on a map and an infinite amount of demons via spawners and encounters, one AI mode that automates it is literally endless waves of demons until all players are dead, but yes only 12 active at once and only 2 guns at a time without exploiting functions a shitton and sadly only 4 players max
See how intimately familiar he is with the SnapMap? It's practically on a flowchart on what to say about it, complete with bullets about 'facts' paired up against alleged 'misconceptions' they know real posters on /v/ would bring up.
>>339072670
If they added dedicated servers and a server browser I would fucking love it
>>339066114
It's a console game.
>10 enemies allowed on screen at once so as not to burn out the poor shitboxes
>gun model takes up 40% of the screen so it can be seen from 80 feet away on a 30Hz plasma TV
>snapmap is a joke, even Halo Forge has more shit
>>339066114
Doom is about killing demons, killing them fast and brutal
and you can kill demons in DOOM, you can kill the fast and brutal
and that's really it, people complaining about objective markers have no idea what Doom is about obviously
>>339072670
>Snapmap is shit. Should've done real mods.
Can't milk you with DLC when you've got actual mods!
Also what people don't say is that Denuvo cockblocks the .exe so huge mods wouldn't have been able to run anyway.
>>339072839
>10 enemies allowed on screen at once so as not to burn out the poor shitboxes
I wish you people would stop fucking lying about games
>>339072665
Nigger if you don't like it turn that shit off.
I turned it off
>>339072834
I spent 14 hours playing the campaign, 15 hours figuring out how snapmap worked and 5 hours fixing everything I broke in it.
Damn right I'm intimately familiar with it.
Also seriously I spent 20 hours to get this thing to work right someone play my map and tell me what you think please.
"Redout" Survival (1-4 Player)
Under the #difficult tag
>>339073023
This is the worst part about Denuvo. Not the blocking piracy, but the mod blocking.
>>339072938
>you can kill demons in DOOM, you can kill the fast and brutal
It is not fast and brutal. It's slow filled with edgy shit only 13 year olds would love.
>>339071027
Not to mention the longest "cutscene" is like 90 seconds long. Dude's just shitposting.He's right about Doom 64 though. Tied with Doom 2 as the best Doom game (Doom 1 fags can get fucked, only Knee Deep in the Dead was great).
In all honesty, I think the new DOOM could have been better. To me it doesn't really have the old retro feel I brought it for, I know people are going to be like "Kys" And crap, but I honestly and truthfully brought it for the retro feel.
And the multiplayer just sucks... A lot...
>Kills self
>>339072938
>people complaining about objective markers have no idea what Doom is about obviously
>D44m is totally a Doom game you guys! WHY WON'T YOU LIKE IT?
>>339073152
I'll try it out, Anon. I'll be back.
>>339073178
Shores of Hell was my favorite. Thy Flesh is actually really shitty.
>>339072665
Because it's an objectively correct statement, the only reason why you would complain about either glory kills or any hud elements in the first place is presumably because it reduces the challenge and there's an option there to fix it.
I sincerely do not understand the shill mentality
>>339073263
It's kinda hard with 1 person, best with 2 or 3. I'm hosting a map in about 2 minutes.
>>339069116
Have you watched a speedrun of these games? The closest thing to glory kills the runners use on nightmare runs, even before the skip glitches were discovered, is the chainsaw for ammo replenishment. All the other ones are bosses or instances where they just do it for the hell of it. There's no requirement to use it, unless you're a drooling mongoloid.
>>339073351
Well, my internet is pretty shit, just as a head's up.
>>339073491
>speedruns
>you have to be autistic to like Doom
Really now
>>339073117
Get me a screenshot where there are more than 10 enemies onscreen and i'll suck your dick.
>>339073351
Hosting my map now if anyone wants to join.
>>339073278
Not a fan of Shores of Hell, personally. Level layouts were nonsensical and it seemed like they just threw in a ton of enemies everywhere rather than place then intelligently. Enemy placement seemed to have no thought put into it at all.
>>339073605
Waitformeee
I haven't played it. I like what I see, but it'll never have any longevity. It's obvious they weren't going for "the next big thing" here.
For that reason, it feels more like an homage than a reboot.
>>339066114
Even the shittiest sewer water would taste like nectar of the gods in the fps desert.
Not that doom 4 is the shittiest sewer water, it's alright water. 7/10
>>339073697
Were you kurtis? You fail to load in?
>>339073728
This, the bar of what you should expect from an FPS has dropped through the ground
>>339073592
>Cites objective case of not having to use a feature you don't like
>hurr durr muh autism
Or you could, you know, just be good at the game and not have hand seizures every time an Imp waves his cock in your face.
>>339073853
Still loading game, searching match now
>>339073962
Well I'm hosting again.
>>339074052
I made it!!! ...no text box?!
>>339074089
Apparently not, mic only in the lobby.
>>339073671
What I remember liking most about Shores was the difficulty balance. The worst part of E2 is having to play M2 and M3 back-to-back because those are really trash levels.
I also just like the feeling of going from the standard designs of Knee Deep to slightly wackier ones before they went too far with the dumb teleporters in the later episodes.
>>339073853
Internet's shitting itself, but I played it offline. You're right, it's really hard, but it was nice feeling outgunned and desperate. If anything, you might open it up a bit more or add some more stuff to jump on top of so there's a bit more mobility.
>/v/ can't admit that they were wrong about D44Mat least the SP side of it
I was one of the niggas hating on it before launch as well
>>339066114
I had fun playing it. That's all I really know and that's all I really care about.
>>339066114
I really like it.
Its 2016 Doom. Hallway, arena, shoot things. It was fun for a few hours but I'm done. Wasnt a fan of the mp, too Halo-y for me. Glad it was released, and was worth a 2 day rental from Redbox. Ill grab it like I did TNO for $10 on sale.
Is it worth 80 weedbucks or should I just keep playing the Witcher 3 I have from my friend's shared Steam account?
>>339074836
/thread
>>339074395
Thanks for the input. It took everything I had just to get it to work.
I do want to expand on it I just wanted it to be playable first and this is the first iteration 100% completeable.
>>339075081
no
buy it when it's 75% off
>>339066114
>>339066114
Good game, seriously.
But get it on a key site. It's like 47 US (with a code you can find on any twitch channel).
>>339075081
I recommend doing what >>339074836 said, SP is decent but it'll always be there.
>>339075170
It's $36 on G2A
Should have been $20
>>339074147
gg! Thanks for the host!
>>339075081
I bought it for 40 canuck bucks from g2a.
even at 40 bucks it may not be worth the price if you base it off of an hour per dollar sort of system, but 30-20 range is reasonable for this sort of game.
>>339074089
>>339074395
Thanks for giving it a shot you two.
Some unforseen bugs in co op that aren't there in singleplayer so I need to figure out how to make those work, I'll just edit over the existing map so if you save it whenever I republish you'll still have it saved but with the new and improved edits.
>>339071180
Hello, newfriend.
I wish I could cheat to unlock all of the stupid pointless upgrade bullshit and I wish that glory kills weren't so essential to preserving ammo because I'm constantly running out
>>339075790
I have it saved. I rather liked the claustrophobic get up going on here. Goodluck smoothing out the bugs, happy to playtest anytime.
>>339075118
I had a good time with it, which is new for snapmap, so good job, anon.
>>339075937
>>339075957
If you guys wanna beat it, save it then go to my downloads and edit it, select the player 1 on spawn node, hit G and drag to the player iterator on the left side of the room, add modifier, set damage to 1000% or 2000% or whatever you want then playtest it, don't save it though.
Also check out Avatar of Sin, should be version 1.6 or 1.7 now, unsure. It's beastly, makes my map look fucking mediocre as hell, and feels like a Doom 2 map. Also it's even harder than my map, but you do get 3 lives instead of 1 to try to beat it. Some guy off /vg/ has been twiddling with it all week and it's turned out absolutely fantastic.
>>339075820
I'm pretty sure the majority of those posts/threads were just ironic shitposters mocking the few genuine shillsTHIS SHIT WAS ALMOST 7 YEARS AGO WHAT THE FFFFFFFFUCK
>>339066869
Most of this is true
>Bosses have HP bars
Did you look through the HUD settings? Did you play the game?
You can turn this off.
I turned off everything but health, ammo, and crosshair.
>>339075937
Oh shit and I figured out the bug already.
On Given it would give the modifier to the specific player who activated it instead of all team members.
A simple fix, I just need to set a true false statement that applies to the whole team and it should be fixed.
>>339073160
you should play the game before commenting on it
>>339072105
>muh dum step
except that you nor any one here really knows what dubstep is or what trash metal is, or what Mick composed for the game
ya'll cowards don't even listen to music
I thought the cinematic kills would have brought down the game but it ended up being fun. Brings the difficulty down a bit but rewarding the finishers with small health packs gave me a reason to take more risks. The danger of trying to rip apart an imp for health while a revenant is chasing your ass gives you a nice feeling.
