I like it. Maybe not the closeup so much though.
Found two bizarrely censored versions of this saved before I found this one.
That's gotta be femyu, I refuse to believe regular Yu could do that with his hair.
I will never not be disappointed about that. At the very least I will continue to pray for a p3 with everything from fes and p3p slapped together and full cutscenes and models for both protags.
And I will pray for it until the day I die.
Japan underestimates the power of femcs. Lesbian femyu would have sold enough copies of p4g to make your head spin.
Keep praying. In turn, I will hold out hope for a fem5 revealed in the last 5 seconds of the release day trailer. Or a sneak peek at femyu in Persona 4 Super Golden Mode rehash for PS3 using Catherine and P5's graphics and game engine.
while we are thinking wishfully about superior versions of persona games, maybe they will someday release a version of persona q with persona 3's female protagonist actually in it. i have not played persona q myself, but i have heard it was such a disappointment regarding /u/ content which is a shame because it conceptually was supposed to be catering to the persona shipping fans. adding in persona 3's female protagonist would have most likely helped fix that.
>4 spinoffs and an implied fifth one that panders
If they need the money that badly they should have went for the femc and that otome fanbase. Thus, if persona has a femc, then by default, she will have yuri routes because yuri is a mandatory ever-present force in the persona universe.
>yuri is a mandatory ever-present force in the persona universe
I don't remember the Persona series, or the larger SMT franchise, ever having a reputation for being o/u/r friend. Just look at this thread, with 80% of the images posted cointaining Hamuko. P3P was the exception, not the norm.
There's always at least subtext. The thread could just as well be full of Chie/Yukiko and Mitsuru/Yukari.
I was just referencing how the close female friendships of p3 and p4 end up being very subtexty.
Just this thread. Anywhere else it's Yukari and Mitsuru or Chie and Yukiko.
Can't speak for the other franchises, but the yaoi fanbase always got more out of this one than we ever did. There's no new trend here, just a return to the status quo after the surprisingly yuri-friendly FF13.
>imagining evil women must be behind everything
Sure, it's Fujoshi at fault, and sure, this is totally happening. Sure.
Have you even played a Tales of Persona game in your life before?
Tales of series is fulk if really good female characters. Sure, they're not yuri, but recently the series focus on friendship instead of romance anyway. And that's how I like JRPGs anyway, since they're almost never yurish.
Persona 3 had actual good female characters. In 4 they're all useless waifushit, though. I have no hope for P5.
I don't even want to talk about FFXV. I think it's sad that it exists...in every way.
>They'll likely cut back on the harem thing. Catherine was about how cheating is bad and P4Golden included Valentine rejection responses. If anything, Persona 5 will be monogamous.
So lack of females = less chance of harem? The fuck?
Is this how female characters have been boiled down to in JRPGs?
And yet Persona 4 feels more like a harem than Persona 3. At least in P3 the girls only showed interest in the mc on cutscenes (Aegis being an exception, but could be seen as no romantic). P4 they need all the girls saying how cool and awesome the MC was...even NPCs.
I think the most important anti-harem feature was how Persona 3 gave its characters personal lives and important relationships that didn't involve the MC. Aigis was the only one whose life revolved around him/her.
What I don't understand is how /u/ isn't furious at P3P for allowing a pedo relationship with Ken but not allowing a yuri relationship with Yukari. When a lot of the lines between her and male MC are left in especially her getting jealous over Aegis is very yuri worthy. It drove me nuts, typical Japan to give the thumbs up to shota fucking but say eww to two consenting females having sex. Such a huge waste of potential imo. Otherwise hyped for P5 yuri or no yuri.
I'm only passing by, but being part of a community for a niche genre, it's just par for the course. There's no sense in getting upset over it when we're not the ones being catered to in the first place. We're fortunate enough to be thrown a bone here and there. In any case, I can understand your ire, but I guess I'm personally too jaded with the reality of our situation to have any response to this sort of thing other than "If you want something done right..." etc etc
Hamuko still gets Aigis and Elizabeth, so I don't see what's so awful there. Besides, Yukari belongs with Mitsuru.
>Yukari belongs with Mitsuru
The combination of this and Yukari being seemingly less popular than Aigis or Mitsuru probably goes a long way in explaining why /u/ doesn't care that much. And the worst part for Yukari is that not being an option actually reinforces the other options, because it means they're entirely deliberate and it's not just a case of "changes the pronouns and calls it a day."
Well, you know what japanese think of same-sex relationships, it's unreasonable to expect anything more than heavy subtext from them... and they are way more lenient with pedo stuff in their media
Aigis and maybe Elizabeth were definetly exceptions, i do love how the extra dialogue in the Aeon Social Link for the FeMC implies romance more than in the Male MC, pic related, it's followed by
>But for some reason... all i can see or think about is you, Minako-san
But yeah, that's not something you can find in most JRPGs, so there is no reason to get angry about it
But hey, i think we can be optimistic, some of the unused dialogue found in P4 suggests that Yosuke was originally a romance option, whch means Atlus didn't only consider it, but they were actually going to put a same-sex option in the game at some point
And now we have Fire Emblem: Fates with explicit F/F romance and Nights of Azure, which i haven't played but from what i've seem it's on the same level or maybe even higher than Aigis' S.Link in P3P and also has the relationship as a central element in the game's plot
Both of these were pretty successful, maybe if we ever get a FeMC again we will be able to have explicit yuri romance
Shit, i forgot the pic
Well this all got depressingly realistic. Time for more of whatever I can scrounge.
The thread being slanted towards femc is my doing I'm afraid, don't have much of the other 2 big pairings saved.
Aaand we'll just pretend that's definitely chick Aigis.
Not a huge fan of that one seeing it in non-thumbnail form. Oh well
Terrible idea but that was the best idea they could come up with. In fact Junpei only turned you down because he was already committed, which shows they meant to make the guys dateable.
>Yukari and the femc
>can't be maiden and prince
>can't be shy girl and energetic girl
Aigis had the plot drive their relationship, Mitsuru had the onee-sama thing going on, Hermit had the no self-esteem attachment thing, but they just couldn't figure out how to make yuri between 2 girly, normal girls happen.
I don't think the problem was necessary both of them being normal as such, but Atlus being unwilling to do a lesbian route with a normal girl at all. If you think about, the only girls Hamuko can have sex with are Aigis and Elizabeth, neither of whom is human. The next most obvious romance is with the upper-class Mitsuru, who stops short of sex. Saori, who's yet more normal, has much less subtext. Then finally, thoroughly middle-class Yukari's social link is completely platonic.
>Fujoshis have taken over Persona, Tales of and probably Final Fantasy.
The director of Tales of just said Velvet is the protagonist because they heard fans asking for more FemMCs and also because the positive reception of Milla..
Final Fantasy is the odd one in the series, if it was conceptualized as a mainline FF from the beginning it would have probably an even split of characters like all the others
Persona..the 5 characters we know of are probably not the entire cast. The lack of a female protag and Atlus' insistence that P3P fem route never happened kinda sucks though.
Yukari was the one with the least amount of subtext you know.
You could still have implied sex with Elizabeth and Aegis still loved you and even was going through route exclusive angst because they were both girls.
And the Mitsuru link while not officially gay could very much as well be.
>Atlus' insistence that P3P fem route never happened kinda sucks though.
Obviously, a campaign needs to be formed and have tons of femMC P3P cosplayers march towards Atlus and show off that they exist and they better not forget them in future crossover works
People already do that and it doesn't work.
She is popular enough, yet not even a skin unlock of her in PQ or a mention in Persona Arena.
Obviously no official manga or anime ever features her either.
Atlus a shit.
It is pretty weird how they ignore her, i know she is definetly more popular than ManC around here, but i guess Japan is what counts, dunno about them
Closest we have was this color palette for Labrys that references her
Judging things based entirely on trailers alone, i don't think so
If we look at the P4 trailers it gives you a pretty good idea of what the game is, a lot of focus on the S. Links and SoL stuff and the fighting monster parts almost seems out of place or an afterthought
P5 trailers are a lot more "intense", it doesn't seem to have the same relaxed, SoL feeling of P4, so i don't think there will be much room for harem antics, the closest thing we got so far was the swimsuit scene in the new trailer
Of course, it's a japanese JRPG, so it's fair to expect that every girl will gush over the MC at least once. But right now, it doesn't look like it will be on the same level as P4
I don't know why you guys would expect any yuri in P5. They probably would've revealed a FeMC by now if they were planning to. Does the MC have a voice this time around or is he still silent as usual?
Every Persona game (with the possible exception of P1, cuz i never played it) had at least one goggleable yuri ship
Persona 2 - Yukino x Anna, Noriko x Anna
Persona 3 - Yukari x Mitsuru, Aigis x Minako, Elizabeth x Minako
Persona 4 - Yukiko x Chie
I think it's reasonable to expect at least a pair of good friends that's shippable
Fuck that attitude, I'm expecting on-screen cunnilingus.
Welp, apparently the game will be about people who are "restrained by rules set by society in Japan"
With a theme like this, there is a significant chance we may get a lesbian
Not exactly that, but it's close enough
If it happens, i hope it's biker-chan
I've only played 3 and 4 but the MC can also romance those girls. It's just not a great series for yuri. Sure it would be nice if P5 had some but it's not something to get your hopes up for.
>just not a great series for yuri
>FeMC can have sex with two girls AND hold hands with a third.
Yeah, but she said series. P3P and an optional scene in P2 are as far as the series goes. I'm expecting P5 to follow P4's lead and have a shippable duo where we don't get anything substantial and who are both dateable by the MC, maybe a side char with a few lines saying how much she likes a girl.
I assume that they just like to stick with ManC more because he came first, so that makes him the canon protagonist of P3
And it's probably more convenient to have a SI Male MC in the series considering how many fans are waifufags
>And it's probably more convenient to have a SI Male MC in the series considering how many fans are waifufags
It honestly would be better for them if they had dual protagonists considering how many fujos and otome fangirls they have as well. Why they are satisfied with just waifufags is baffling.
Anyway, if there isn't a definite edition with FeMC again, I'm shipping Council President with Ann
>Why they are satisfied with just waifufags is baffling
Because waifufags are arguably more numerous and the ones giving them the most money out-of-pocket. I don't think the same can be said for fujos or otome fans.
It's hard for me to imagine them making the same effort they did with the FeMC route in P3P again (actually including new content rather than just changing pronouns) for the release, specially considering how huge the game looks
Maybe we can get a FeMC route as DLC later, it would be more viable than re-releasing a FES/Golden/Portable version
How about this?
Someone didn't do Aigis's Social Link.
There is not a lot of new stuff
Oh, i certainly did, Minako x Aigis is my favorite Persona couple
I'm just posting some new stuff, like this picture set, some rare pairings here
Labrys yuri is pretty rare, so here it is
>I can at least hope that i won't have to buy this game two times
Nothing forces you to buy it day one, or even year one, you know? There's nothing wrong with waiting to see if an inevitably superior version will be released later and only buying that one instead.
P3P didn't have the anime cutscenes (replaced with in engine 3D ones or stills from them). I guess it was a UMD space issue, but it must have also reduced the work involved with implementing a second protagonist.
Regardless of the reasons why someone might want a FeMC, for yuri or for otome or just because, the fact is, is that it's one of(if not THE most) popular requests among all MegaTen franchises.
And the reality is, is that they aren't regularly implementing it even in the series where characterization is slim and the cosmetic elements to it are trivial(e.g. SMT4 which does everything outside of navigation in first person), and to do so in Persona, especially with the higher production values in 5 where it'll get even more labor intensive to do so, even if the MC stays mostly silent and voicework is mostly just flavor clips.
>it's like they refuse to do it
Yeah..and it hurts doubly because they already did it once and everyone loved her and the reception was very good and then everyone was expecting FemYu in Golden but nope.
I wouldn't mind the main character being male if Persona was like the other jRPGs where you can kick the "MC" out of the party like you can in FFs ot Tales of games, and instead control some female character on the overworld, but despite the MC of Persona not having that much personality usually he is integral part of the game and you are supposed to consider him yourself and everything revolves around him basically.
Unfortunately Atlus is not best with giving their fans what they want. Hell, in 2016 they still barely even acknowledge the existence of Europe.
Well, this might be me being naively optimistic but consider the following:
>P3 is first released in 2006
>P3FES - 2007
>P4 - 2008
>P3P comes out in 2010, with a Femc and Vincent cameo. P5 is confirmed to begin development in this year.
>Catherine has appeared.
It's the killer, do not die.2011. Features adult themes and relationship dynamics and a new graphic engine.
>P4 is re-released in 2012 as P4G with Marie, another waifu.
>P4Arena is released in 2012 with BlazBlue style. Hints at another P3xP4 crossover.
>P4ArenaSuperModeUltimax is re-released in 2013 with a new edgy character
>PQ comes out to pander in 2014 in chibi style
>P4Miku comes out in 2015, with 3D models similar to Catherine.
>P5 for 2016 with Catherine's engine. Has DLC for P3 and P4 uniforms.
It's obvious they poured their time into making P5 and just phoned it on on anything that wasn't their main project.
>Catherine was practice for P5
>Everything after P3P until now has been to buy time for P5 and the P3xP4 crossover
>P3xP4 crossover will use the 3D models seen in P4Miku
>Once they release P5 we'll get P5-2 in a year with Femc and an epilogue.
Femc will be bi unless they won't let you sex up the P5 Yukari again.
>They'll re-re-re-release even more games with Femc
>Already have P3 and P4 uniforms modeled, so >They'll re-re-release P3 and P4 using updated graphics like Pokemon >P6 comes out. Everything else was just buying time. No Femc again.
The more time they pour into P5, the more the series gets like an interactive anime experience (not WRPG-esque) with more work involved in stuff like its cutscenes, and the less likely it is they'll add another protagonist later.
Yeah, but i can see some differences
P5's theme is "emancipation", so i'm expecting the characters to actually break free of society's rules
In P4 the characters had similiar issues, but it seems to me that by the end of the game they just "accept" society's rules and act the way they're expected to
Like, Yukiko wanted to be free and didn't want to inherit the Inn... but she inherited it anyway and presumably stayed in Inaba for the rest of her life
Rise wanted people to know her true self and not "Risette"... but then she decided to keep acting like Risette anyway, i guess because people like her more that way
Kanji was supposed to accept his feminine side and understand that he doesn't need to be a "tough guy" in order to be a real man... and yet he still get mad at Yosuke's dumb gay jokes and acts like Mr. Manly McManson all the time
And so on, i guess things will end up different this time
Yukiko is raised to be a Yamato Nadeshiko and inherit the Amagi Inn, however, she feels like she is being forced into doing so... but then just accepts it anyway, suddenly she realises "Hey, i actually want to inherit the Inn! Even though i was stressed, felt pressured to do it and angsted out a lot about how restrained my life was!"
Rise became an idol because she was bullied in middle school and wanted to make friends, so she comes up with Risette, an idol persona that everyone seems to love, then she realises that people only like "Risette" and not "Rise", so she angsts out because of how people can't see her real self... but in the end she decides to become full-time Risette because that's what everyone likes
Kanji became obsessed with being a real man because of what his father told him, but he likes cute and feminine things, he hides that by acting all delinquent, he supposely accepts his feminine side and realises that his tough guy act only made people scared of him and pushed them away... but then he still acts the same way, gets extremely angry at gay jokes and doesn't seem comfortable with his feminine side at all
I mean, they still act in the same way that used to in order to be more accepted by society, even though it contradicts their true self. So my point is that P5, while having the same "restrained by society" theme, might differ from P4 because of the "slavery and emancipation" theme, i expect the characters to just be who they really are without any façade to be more accepted
Like, if Yusuke ends up being gay for example, he should be like
>Yeah, i'm fucking gay, so what? I LOOOOOVE COCKS!
Rather than being pissed of about it
I always thought Yukiko's deal was that it wasn't working at the inn that upset her, but it was because she felt that she had no say/choice in the matter. She felt trapped, like her entire life had already been decided for her, without her input. Then over time she realized that she did somewhat enjoy the inn because of the people she befriended and at the end of her rank made a conscious, free choice to stay there, instead of feeling caged like she used to.
Quite honestly, yes.
There is also Naoto who dresses up as a guy because she fears no one will take her seriously in her dream profession as a woman.
She can be later seen in some girlier clothes occasionally but in the end in all the sequels she still mainly dresses herself in man clothes.
>while having the same "restrained by society" theme, might differ from P4 because of the "slavery and emancipation" theme
Hopefully, because you know, it's still the same dev team and probably the same writers who may have the same views of "yeah some things are fucked up but in the end for society's sake it's better to accept it".
In Catherine for example it turned out the same way pretty much
Guy is scared of commitment and the presure of society to settle down and produce offspring. In the good ending he "mans up", realizes that's what he actually wants and comes back to his gf.
> if Yusuke ends up being gay for example
Please don't say that. Our collective energy has to make the Council Pres gay, not one of the guys.
Persona 4 is a little smarter than that. Its understanding of personality is basically Existentialist: there is no such thing as an immutable true personality and we create ourselves through our actions. For instance, even though Rise wasn't originally a bubbly outgoing girl, acting like one for some time has made it a part of her personality. She basically says all that after the boss fight against her Shadow, which ends up freaking Teddy out.
She also says that the "normal girl" Rise is part of her, and yet she is becomes Idol Risette 24/7
Maybe i just didn't get it, but i really hated how some of the characters arc went like
>I'm really a "X", but i'm forced to be a "Y"
>Waah! I hate this! I don't wanna be a "Y"! I wanna be a "X"!
>Hey, i'm totally fine with being a "Y" now, i actually wanted to be one all along but i just didn't realise it!
She does occasionally show a more serious and quiet side, particularly in her social link, but it's also there in some of the plot interactions. Her telling Naoto to stop treating the case as a game is a good example.
But yeah, it is a little annoying how every single character decides that to live authentically they should do exactly what is expected of them. Kanji's probably the least conforming, since he manages to openly integrate his love of crafts and cuteness into his badass persona.
It's bullshit they didn't make him explicitly gay, though.
Behold, the first Persona 5 yuri fanart
there is evidence on disk that proves Yosuke was supposed to be gay. He has recorded dialouge that goes unused for his level ten social link where he says, "I love you" and, "Don't make me say embarrassing things like that."
Persona 4 was also supposed to have the same girlfriend system that Persona 3 had. If a girl caught you cheating on her, the social link would reverse and you would have to talk it out before it was too late. In Persona 4, this system still exists, but goes unused. All of the girls in your party even have special dialouge if you talk to them in the dungeons when their s. links are reversed using cheat devices. All of the girls including Yosuke. Teddie and Kanji surprisingly do not have any changed dialouge at all.
check this out if you want more information: https://tcrf.net/Persona_4
That just makes their failure to include any canon homo in the finished game more annoying.
I'm definitely not a fujoshi but if you read all these other lines surrounding "i like you" and didn't think the confession has romantic implications I don't know what to say to you.
Plus the fact "suki" can be translated to love depending on context (in this case it would definitely fit).
No, but in your tiny pea brain, that's what you are only capable of, apparently, you vulgar pleb.
It's a cut piece of a social link, which in itself implies its content was found unsuitable to ship. If it was completely platonic bros being bros there would be no reason to cut it out now, would there?
Secondly you can make up terms like "bromance" all you want to allow 100% heterosexual men being homo with each other guilt free, but that doesn't translate necessarily to other cultures.
Even if you think there is totally nothing gay about two totally heterosexual bros telling each other they want to stand by each other's side with sun setting in the background while blushing furiously throughout, it doesn't change the fact that saying "suki da yo" within that context cements your intentions.
It's not necessarily 100% hard evidence that he was supposed to the gay romance option, but there are a few things you might want to consider before dismissing it
The first one is that the line "suki" is used by every single girl in the romance route Max S. Link, and that's what Yosuke says
Then there is the way the line is delivered, which sounds like he is nervous and adds a more "confession" tone to it
Yosuke also has a constant gay panic through out the game, he makes fun of Kanji all the time, you can make him freak out and blush by saying you want to date him in the school festival, you can hug him at rank 8 on his S. Link and he will say "that's for girls" and a his S. Link has a few times were he will call you to hang out but also asks you to call someone else so that people don't think you're dating each other
So if you combine his insecurity issues with how he acts to towards Kanji, they could've been trying to go with something like "He makes fun of Kanji being sexually confused in order to hide the fact that he is sexually confused as well"
We're really scraping the bottom of the barrel now huh?
I wish there was more FeMC/Aigis or Mitsuru or Elizabeth
I could never get into Yukari/Mitsuru
I always suspected it was something lost in translation, but apparently, the ship only exists because their Seyuus have a history of being paired in their roles
Does anyone have any other Aigis x Yukiko crossovers aside from pic related?
Yay, there is a new thread.
Persona 2: Innocent Sin has a character who's gay, and it gets reciprocated in some routes.
That's a pretty odd pairing. Where did it come from? Didn't play P4AU.
Woohoo, some P5. Much higher res here:
Share uncommon ships! I love Minako x Fuuka.
To be honest I didn't think of the p4 arena variant of the ship with college Fuuka but it's quite appealing, I gotta admit.
I just found their dynamic and interactions in the Persona Q story really cute!