No it's not.
>every character is a walking trope
I mean cmon, there's nothing original going on here. Bunch of nerdy kids bullied by cool kids, older sister who's dating a jerk, single mom desperate to make end meet, a cop who's lost a loved one. Like did they just pick the top 10 archetypes of american tv & movie characters, slap on a scifi plot and make it happen in the 80's to please 20-somethings with nostalgia boners?
I feel like I'm going crazy seeing everyone call this show amazing. The only exceptional aspect of the show is that the child actors are good. Everything else about the show is just decent or mediocre.
I even saw some anon say that this show proves "Netflix is the new HBO" yesterday. What the fuck is going on? Is it shills?
>people like things I don't like
>must be shills
No it's not
>Suddenly bad CG
>"Bad guy is killed by monster" wow how original
>"Character at the center of the problem sacrifices herself... BUT IS SHE REALLY GONE???"
>Boy they are trying to rescue gets rescued... BUT IT'S NOT REALLY BACK TO WHAT HE WAS
It was clichetown by the book all around and it didn't feel deserved
Why are you lying?
Do you understand what the expression "I'm the last person to X" means?
That doesn't help clear things up at all. You might as well not have responded.
Im not the dude you replied too but that is pretty much the same feelings i got from the show. Is it the best thing ever made? No. Is it 100% original? No. But they did do a good job of mixing in a bunch of established character modes and made a pretty damn good story of their own. I really dug the soundtrack too. Real Tron Legacy vibe from it.
Netflix hasnt truely passed HBO but god damn they are getting closer and closer each year that its only a matter of time before they catch them and maybe pass them. Those will be great years for us though. Except some quality shows to be spit out (of course lots of shit shows will come, you know the copy cat shows trying to jump on someones else thunder) when they go to war over who makes the best shows/movies.
I just finished watching as well. Very strong 9.5/10.
Finale was awesome. Slingshot scene. Dustin screeching about pudding. Elevens scenes.
My only grip is how Steven could kick the Monsters ass pre fire but a shower of bullets did nothing. Almost all of the Steven stuff was weak imo.
Also how is Eleven not kill. Hoppers scene didnt mean much.
I just wish the cg was better. The first scene with Shepard going through the portal looked super shitty, almost like I had a version with unfinished assets.
The flying van was pretty shitty too. They're on a budget so its only fair, but if the continue this I would hope the can allocate a bigger budget to it.
was it an alien confirmed? I thought it was a creature from another dimension. Not outer space.
Glad they went with dimension hopping rather then outer space. Its a nice shake on the old formula.
Nothing but the usual shitty leftie SJW propaganda
>Dude brave single mothers LMAO
>Dude fathers don't care or they're assholes LMAO
>Dude token black kid who's smarter than the rest LMAO
>Dude only girls have superpowers LMAO
>Dude big bad companies that ruin things for money LMAO
>Dude one of the kids is gay and is accepted LMAO
>Dude loner who do drugs and listen to rock music is brave and responsable
All the ppl that say it's good are either shills or massive cucks.
Since when the fuck do vaginas look like this?
I think the 80s style and are direction were great. I thought it was going to to go full retard at the end like Super 8 but it only halfway did that.
Overall I enjoyed the hell out of it. I just wish that it would have ended with season 1 because I feel like this show is going to pull a true detective and have a garbage second season
>go out of your way to make an archtypal 80s movie into a miniseries
>idiot fucks complain that you did what you were trying to do perfectly
That's ironic because I was about to say I'm not surprised people praise this show to high heaven because a good chunk of retards on here seem to think GoT is a good show.
That isn't to say this show isn't good. It's better than GoT at least.
Confession: I wouldn't even like this show if the psychic weird kid wasn't a qt girl.
>it's just a really fun show in a time where television is basically dead.
>Television is basically dead
>Rick and Morty
>Game of Thrones
>Better Call Saul
>American Gods and Star Trek coming soon from Bryan Fuller
What planet are you on?
>>Rick and Morty
>>Game of Thrones
>>Better Call Saul
>>American Gods and Star Trek coming soon from Bryan Fuller
All of these are absolute trash and you're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
My only guess is he somehow led them to Eleven for letting everyone scottfree. Fuck it would have been great if they would have assassinated him and given the middle finger to the obvious mary sue shit he has pulled the entire season. Would have made the show a 10/10
>Implying Fargo isn't the best show on tv
Go kill yourselves.
As far as plot goes there's not been anything truly original for more than 100 years. Novels tried to create more original characters by having them be more detailed, by writings novel that were just long internal monologues of introspection with the plot being secondary. This doesn't fit with movies though.
>hurr it's predictable, full of cliches and mediocre on purpose so that makes it good!
>The only good series on that list is Rick and Morty
>No one mentioning The Leftovers when naming GOAT-tier shows from the past year
Forgot to mention The Knick, also can you guys explain to me why you think shows like Rick and Morty and Mr Robot are bad without saying stuff like ''its shit'' Give me an explanation of why you think they're not good.
when the monster was on fire in the bear trap what did he do? teleported back to the dark zone or whatever to escape
so when 11 was trying to kill him he probably did the same and she followed him back to finish him off
Did he redeem himself or is he still a faggot?
The best part was they weren't some really popular clique.
They were more like the freaks.
1 weirdo couple that's been together for like 7 years and the third wheel guy who has the car and house and is constantly trying to get a girl of his own.
why would she just blowup like that? we never saw what it looked like when the first kid or the fat chick was taken
the only time we saw people crossover was into a portal but the teacher said a flea can just hop over and maybe thats what it looks like
well I guess it's up to interpretation. i saw it as their dematerialization in the finale. I hope she comes back, and if there's a season 2 she definitely will. But it will be an asspull.
How did Will survive in the other dimension with the monster that entire time? Why didn't it just eat him/kill him like it did with Barbara and the rest of the people that got taken to the other side?
It's not Sunglasses at NIght. I am a fukken leaf and I know Corey Hart.
I mean the song that we only hear clearly a few seconds when Teen Girl's mom picks the lock to her room.
At least he was allowed to be kind of a dick, and more complex than most super careful, cloying depictions of black people these days in which theyre mystically kind, cool and infallible. Plus he was right to question what was happening and maybe a little jealous El bonded w Mike and not him.
just finished bingeing on it and Honestly I thought it was pretty good except the fact the bad men never shoot at the girl even though they had the opportunity to do so on multiple occasions I also hope that if It gets a season 2 that It doesn't pick up where this one left off but starts a whole new story entirely
>television should be a friend simulator that goes on forever instead of about telling a long form story to completion
The trend of moving towards anthology series and miniseries is the best thing to happen to American tv. There's nothing to be gained from forcing writers to pad out more hours of content and leave everything open ended for a possible new season, then be told they're cancelled and need to wrap things up after years of building to nothing.
I have nothing against long term character development, but few shows use it well. I don't like the way length is imposed on tv writers where they need to fill up to a dozen hours of content a year, invariably leading to filler, stretching content, repetition, losing focus, losing cast and crew over time etc. There are few to no shows that don't decline in quality as they go on and are only ended after the point of no return
Most stories don't need 30-60 hours to be told.
>I have nothing against long term character development, but few shows use it well. I don't like the way length is imposed on tv writers where they need to fill up to a dozen hours of content a year, invariably leading to filler, stretching content, repetition, losing focus, losing cast and crew over time etc. There are few to no shows that don't decline in quality as they go on and are only ended after the point of no return
This is caused by advertising. I think netflix has the ability to make multi season content without filler.
Get real. There's a bunch of child actors in the principle cast that are right around the corner from puberty. This isn't GoT where you're going to get lucky and have one child actress with midget Anglo genes and a flat chest for her entire adolescence.
I think she made the wrong decision but Steve basically redeemed himself in my opinion by how he tried to make amends with John and how he risked his life to save them from the Demigorgon
>This is caused by advertising
Advertising is what makes shows go seasons overlong, but I still find that the extra length given to television writing is flaw more than anything. Look how glacially paced GoT is despite having a large cast, huge budget and no advertisers to appease. They're still padding out every episode with bullshit that has no purpose but to fill 52 minutes a week.
I'd rather writers say what they need to say in as much time as they think they need. Short books still existed after War and Peace was made, and short tv shows should still be made even after MASH proved you could make a show last forever
>I think netflix has the ability to make multi season content without filler.
I have yet to see it then.
Akira, down to giving these super powered government engineered kids with uncontrollable powers numbers for names
>I have no problem with them aging.
They can't do a season 2 taking place right after season 1 where the kids are all visibly older.
Anthology format makes perfect sense and it'll be a welcome change for this show to no longer have the dark industrial synthesizer soundtrack which has more to do with 80s-inspired videogames than the 80s itself.
>They can't do a season 2 taking place right after season 1
Why would they have to make it take place right after s1? They're obviously at a point where many things are resolved and the only real source of conflict will be Will coping with giving birth to alien slugs.
At that age they could easily grow a couple of inches and have more mature faces in the span of a year. They're in Middle School right? That's when most people have their growth spurts.
Well the show skipped a couple of months right at the end and showed christmas time, so next season is going to be the next year. I don't see how a few inches would change anything.
Was anyone else bothered by at the last episode, Jon, Nancy, and Steve stop the monster by using a bear trap, one .38 revolver, and a fucking nail bat. But dozens of armed men spraying submachine-guns into the monster did fuck-all? I thought that the presence of blood strengthened it but I dunno man.
Yes...thats why it's set in the 80's. The entire series is a homage to the 80's horror/ sci fi ( even the fucking title font is a homage to Stephen King ) Once i realized this, i just went with it and had fun.
Watching 'Stranger Things' is like revisiting one of your favorite restaurant you haven't been to in years...and the food still taste great.
Worth it for loli Drew Barrymore, other than that it's pretty bad.