Why the fuck didn't they just release this on cinemas?
Is clearly better
Apologize
>>72095158
it's the new ploy for DVD sales.
it's reason enough to hate the movie for doing that stupid shit.
>movies have DLCs now
wew
also, pretty sure they were actually trying to fix the fact that a movie about 2 men punching each other 3 and a half hours long.
>>72095158
Studio wants to get it down to a running time that won't terrify pleb audiences who can't watch a three hour film.
And I'm not saying not like BvS makes you a pleb. I'm saying being turned off by a films running time makes you a pleb.
>>72096811
*not liking
>>72095158
Longer=less screenings per day
R-rated=less potential market
TL;DR: Jews
>clearly better
I've only seen the Ultimate Cut, but if this was better I can only imagine how shit the original was.
>>72097888
t. plebcuck
because people are too autistic to watch an extra 30 minutes apparently
The cut 30 minutes so they could get 20% more screenings before people realized it was shit.
>>72097939
but everyone who's watched the Ultimate edition has said it was good
>>72095158
Because studios are run by out-of-touch executives and soulless bean-counters.
>>72097968
no we haven't stop spouting that
It's improved in the way that the narrative is more put together however the horrid pacing, bad action quality and overall Saturday morning cartoon plot being played as grim dark as fuck ruins any strong points it had.
That extra run time fixes nothing
>>72097968
No they most certainly have not.
>>72096811
I am indeed turned off by three hour capeshit
For an actual real film I would be okay with a 3 hour investment, but if capeshit can't do its job in roughly 2 hours its not worth my time
>>72095158
Does this handle the Martha scene better? Because that's the only thing that would improve this movie.
>>72098086
>>72098092
t. stubborn faggots who can't change their mind
>>72098094
>>72096811
Agreed.
The plot is to flimsy to justify the run time. It's not like there are layers to follow or a major build up.
More or less it's just two hours of hero brooding and fighting with an hour of dream sequences
America are pussies.
>>72098113
You can't improve total garbage
>>72097968
Ive watched both versions,they're both shit
>>72098126
I saw the Ultimate cut first anon.
>>72098180
no you didn't.
>>72095158
i have no idea.
>theaters sell more food
>public gets a better movie
>studio and franchise public image improves
probably because of home video market?
>>72098192
The only version I've seen is the ultimate cut as well.
>>72098218
i believe you
>>72098113
Idk about the original, but the ultimate cut felt extremely contrived. Superman is about to die and he yells out "SAVE MARTHA" and Batman starts screaming back "WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME" 5-10 times and then Lois runs in and yells "THAT'S HIS MOMMY'S NAME"
>>72098192
But I did.
I borrowed off a friend
It was complete shit. I was told it was better then what was in theaters but I have to say I question how was it any worse? A man is ready to stop (in his eyes) a superhuman menace that could destroy the world and as he is ready to being the killing blow, he stops and show mercy because both men's mothers had a common name.
If it was in tone of Adam West Bat-man I would have been on board but they crank the seriousness up to 11 so when I see a clash of man vs gods end on such an ridiculous note as 'his mom has the same name as mine, I must spare him' it just destroys everything build up to that scene.
>>72098301
Nigga that's fucking kawaii. Is this a movie for faggots?
>>72095158
More like they needed the scapegoat.
"No no it wasn't my vision on screen even though for months I've been telling you it was"
"See it's better then the films launch, buy it, It's better so that should just absolve all the flaws that made it a bad movie"
did the theatrical cut have the bits where the wife of the african warlord (who was living in gotham's or metropolis' version of harlem for some reason) was trying to say superman was evil for killing her husband, an african warlord, and his men? Except it wasn't really superman, but lex luthor's men, and they used flamethrowers, the burned corpses would have been instantly identifiable as burned by flamethrowers because of chemical residue, who eventually had a change of heart, but just as she had a change of heart, she was pushed in front of a train by lex luthor's man, same man who burned the corpses of the african warlord and his army?
Because that whole sequence was was pain inducing.
>>72098407
>>72098301
It was his father's dying utterance. It wasn't simply that their moms shared a name. It was that he realized that he'd become the villain and that the man he was about to kill was living far closer to his own ideals than he was.
>>72098407
You borrowed what? The physical release isn't out yet.
>>72098407
being this much of an idiot
>>72098565
No shit. I understand that. It's still an incredibly cringe-inducing, contrived scene.
>>72098565
Nope, his father's last word was "martha." not "save martha" or "you're letting them kill martha." Just "martha."
So feel free to try again to justify that completely abhorrent sequence.
>>72098578
the ultimate cut has been available for download for a couple weeks now.
>>72098547
The warlord wasn't her husband, but no, none of that was in the theatrical version. Also, her change of heart is motivated out of fear for her life when she sees Lex's men looking for her outside her apartment building.
And the flamethrower they were using was commercial, not military. It uses propane, not napalm, and as such wouldn't leave any identifiable chemical accelerants behind.
>>72098713
He said he borrowed it from a friend. Who the fuck uses that kind of phrasing for watching a digital copy?
>>72098623
Wow, it really changes everything. What do you think papa Wayne meant by this?
>>72098578
>>72098713
>Release the ult.cut a month before 4k or Blu-Ray
>No matter where you buy it the quality is shit
Why the fuck did they do this? I immediately got a refund as soon as I noticed how bad the quality is...just gonna wait for the Blu-Ray
>>72098755
no, he quite clearly knows a guy.
>>72098755
Normal people.
I've only seen the Extended Cut, but it seems to have all the same problems as the theatrical one based on reviews.
It didn't help. Was still a mess. Lois Lane gets way too much screen time, macro-editing is a mess, characterization is terrible for literally every character, ads for next movie feel cheesy, music is bad, special effects are bad.
>>72098802
What?
>>72098793
You realize the 4k version is just going to be upscaled from 2k, right? As the movie was mastered in 2k?
>>72098834
I really liked how the JL teasers were literally shown because batman and WW sat down and watched youtube videos of them.
really makes you feel like the movies take place in our world
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>>72098834
>music is bad
wew lad
>>72095158
Actually, I preferred the condensed version, without the nigga lady side story, and the adding thathotwheels was leaded so Superman couldn't see the bomb.It actually takes away from his characters dilemma.
>>72098894
That's fine i'm gonna get the Blu-Ray not the 4k, but still the quality they released is shit even on torrents
>>72098972
>and the adding that hotwheels was leaded so Superman couldn't see the bomb. It actually takes away from his characters dilemma.
how so?
>>72098578
Actually the copies are already in store in the back. My boss has offered those of us that preorder an early pick up for itno one that work there preordered it
>>72098793
>Why the fuck did they do this?
They need to show profits in a bad way, it's to mark up the idea that it's profitable to share holders so they are trying to stretch this out in hopes the sales look steady enough to keep shares up and have some spin doctor work ready when it's ask why this film is a massive joke that it is
>>72098972
good god
there really is an opinion for everything
I watched the Ultimate Edition without knowing this is supposed to be the better version (didn't watch the theatrical release).
Is this really the better one? because I felt like it was pretty dumb. Some people said it makes a lot more sense with the extended cutscenes.
Batfleck was honestly the best thing in the movie.
>>72099051
You're so full of shit it hurts.
>>72099065
ah yes, the classic criticism of "dumb", explains so much.
>>72099036
Him not seeing the bomb because he didn't dare look at the cripple is more humanizing than just having it hidden behind lead.
>>72098972
I can live with or without the Nairomi actress's subplot, but the fact that they were burning the corpses feeds right into what some fans have been saying about Lex's true plans all along, mainly that Martha was toast regardless of whether Clark brought back Bruce's head or not, and that Lex wasn't just sitting on info on other superhumans for no reason at all.
>>72098951
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idYe9zfcl0g&t=5s
Everything about this scene is over the top, silly, cheesy.
>>72099065
Better as in you are given an answer/reason for all actions.
It will never fix the awful plot, nor the snooze fest of a narrative it is.
>>72099131
okay, how does that make the music bad?
>>72099036
In the theatrical cut it's more ambiguous and you could infer he was ashamed to look at hotwheels, and it doesn't make hotwheels out to be a victim as well.
>>72099064
Yeah
>>72099121
Yeah, I agree, it explains it better for people who need explaining.
>>72098972
Wait, what was the theatrical like in terms of the bomb in the wheelchair?
>>72099116
Decent point.
Another problem with lois discovering that wheel was leaded was completely forgotten about when doomsday showed up.
>>72098834
>seems to have all the same problems as the theatrical one
-Fixed the Africa subplot
-Gave more explanation on why Clark dislikes Batman
-Perry knows Clark is Superman (explaining why the fuck he lets him suck as a reporter)
-Luthor's insanity at the end explained
It's much better than the theatrical cut. The biggest problem is the hamfisted Justice Leauge stuff which was very poorly edited in before the Batman-Superman showdown, rather than after the credits
>>72098834
AND YET THOSE FUCKING COONTS, THOSE WILLY NILLY CUNTS AT TOMATOES GIVES THIS MOVIE A 29% BUT GIVES THAT FUCK, GHOST BUSTERS 75%.
where's a crazy muslim negro to kill a bunch of suckers when you need one?
>>72099104
Most stores get there truck shipment with the big Tuesday releases usually the week before. Best Buy I work at gets them every Thursday. We have BvS in the back with big old signs that say shit like "do not sell till 7-19-16"
>>72099116
Doesn't he say in the UE that he didn't want to look at him either?
>>72099180
It was ambiguous, it didn't explain whether it was Lex, or the wheelchair guy, or both, and it doesn't mention lead as the reason Superman couldn't see it.
>>72099246
if you'd actually read any of the reviews for ghostbusters, you'd see they all say the movie is pretty flawed, but girl power adds 4 points.
>>72099116
Lead-lining as a precaution makes perfect sense, but the fact is it wasn't what kept Clark from seeing it. Up till the end of the scene, Clark never does more than just glance in Wally's direction.
Clark's own words about it express that: "I'm afraid I didn't see it because I wasn't looking."
>>72099291
That's even worse, they are shilling a product they know is flawed because it advances an agenda.
>>72099298
Yes, it removes responsibility from Superman, which weakened the impact of that scene.
>>72099255
That's honestly a lot better than the extended version. Superman not seeing the bomb because he didn't want to look at something (not someone) that reminded him of a personal failure goes a lot further to establishing snyder's superman's problems.
But hey, snyder is nothing if not incompetent.
>>72096169
well 10 minutes of 2 guys punching the rest is "kino" moments of exposition.
>>72099359
and they're about to find out it doesn't matter how hard you shill for something if you personally don't buy a fucking ticket for it.
>>72099392
it doesn't lessen it, it just solidifies Lex's plan, if Clark had looked he would've noticed the blind spot, but he didn't want to look at him.
>>72099180
>>72099255
Also, there's a nice little added touch where we don't see Wally's last check until Alfred sees it laying on a table in Bruce's TV room. The drawing of the capitol in flames matches some of the graffiti Lois sees in Wally's room. Lex was laying all of it off on Wally.
Personally, I've always thought that Lex only got in on the check bit after Wally came to his attention and that before that, it was Wally acting on his own.
>>72099184
>Luthor's insanity at the end explained
I don't think it's meant to be taken like that. I took it as a final stab at Batman, like ''haha, i did all kinds of crazy shit, but my corporate lawyers' are gonna make sure I don't have go to real prison, because I'm so 'crazy'.''
Because it was painful enough sitting through the original without them adding an extra hour of filler
>>72095158
I went into BvS Ultimate Ed. completely fresh. I really enjoyed it.
I can see how some of the parts could be considered a little overwrought, and the grim tone was pervasive throughout, but each scene was entertaining....some, even captivating.
That being said, I maintain my position that DC's heroes are dead archetypes, but I enjoyed the movie nonetheless.
>>72099397
I actually quite like Snyder, but to each their own
>>72099430
Hopefully
>>72099472
If you interpret it that way, it didn't work as well for me.
>>72099476
There are some things, which added something to the Ultimate Cut, I'll have to watch both when I get the DVD.
>>72098086
I knew Civil War was going to be an irredeemable children's movie when they didn't have the balls to kill off Rhodey, or anyone for that matter.
>>72099397
I think they really had to put that in, because people just can't wrap their minds around the fact that Superman can't be x-raying everything all the time, and how would he even know what a bomb looks like? I don't know what a bomb looks like, sure, if you put a timer on it, maybe I start getting some ideas, but we have no idea what the bomb was like in the movie.
because it was just as mediocre
>>72099689
Kek, I probably wouldn't know the difference between a bomb and the insides of an electric wheel chair, but I don't know what you mean when you say they "had to put that in, because people just can't wrap their minds around the fact Superman can't be x-raying everything"
>>72095158
>>72095449
>>72095551
>>72095551
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxV99PYX37c
>>72099184
>-Perry knows Clark is Superman
wat
>>72099807
Well, apparently people needed that explanation, because many people were complaining about why he wasn't scanning the room for bombs when he stepped in.
>>72095158
What???
What the hell did it even bring to the table compared to the original?
>>72099838
http://archive.4plebs.org/tv/search/text/mxV99PYX37c/
are you trying to advertise your channel? what the fuck
>>72099922
Too bad people need to be spoonfed
>>72095158
I haven't seen the theatrical release but I saw this and it was pretty bad, anon.
Really can't imagine the trainwreck it was on the big screen.
>>72098150
> It's not like there are layers to follow or a major build up.
but thats exactly what there is...
>>72099667
It's hilarious how Bendis thought Rhodey would die in it, so he killed him in Civil War 2 for synergy.
>>72099291
Fuck you, the movie's shit and the only people supporting it are fucking sjw types whom i hate with the force of an ori star fractions of a seconds away from a hyper nova
tl;dr the day of the rope will be here any day now.
>>72099922
"why isn't superman being super" is a pretty valid complaint, though.
>>72097888
This tbqh
>>72099184
Reminder that in the continuity of the page you posted, Batman and Batgirl fucked
>>72101392
You realize you said the exact same thing as >>72099291, except you said it as a gibbering retard?
>>72101463
because he's still just a man
>>72101211
I sincerely wish Bendis would die.
>>72101516
You activated my trap card, GLAMOR OF THE MIRROR, YOUR PERIOD'S ABOUT TO START GLAMOR GIRL---to avoid this trap you'll have to post, kate McKinnon will be raped horribly until straight.
>>72101536
because pa kent was a moron
and he, by extension, is a moron for not realizing pa kent was a moron.
>>72101876
... so the "gibbering retard" thing isn't merely affectation.
>>72101917
what?
>>72101946
I have no idea how you're using affectation but if you're calling me a thespian then yes, me being retarded was clearly an act.
I want Kate Mckinnon to be raped horribly by a bunch of Juans from Mexico, though.
>>72101976
He means to say his Daddy taught him to be extra careful and to trust no one and nothing until he was ready to deal with the consequences, kinda made him autistic because maybe pa Kent was autistic after him saving his daddy's farm killed the other farm's animals. Or something.
>>72097888
This indeed.
The script was just utter shite. There were way too many scenes that didnt make ANY sense from ANY of the characters point of view.
>>72099972
More character development and more clues to what Lex was really planning. Personally, I'm just as hype for the special features as I am fr jay copy of the UC itself.
>>72102149
I don't recall a single scene that didn't make sense. A lot of this must be on you.
>>72102044
Jonathan was wise enough to see not only how the world would react to Clark's existence, but how important it was that Clark be ready to face that reaction.
If you were offered godhood, would you refuse it? Could you?
>>72102560
it was a weak attempt to turn superman into doctor manhattan, when the concept of superman is not compatible with doctor manhattan in any way, shape, or form.
Pa kent is basically supposed to realize that since superman is completely invulnerable, there is nothing in the world to stop him from being a force of good/justice. The badguys can never win against him, can never stop him, can't even slow him down, and is supposed to instill him with values he knows full well will be completely adamantine within his invulnerable son's mind.
Snyder's pa kent tells clark to be afraid, weak, and selfish.
>>72102854
>there is nothing in the world to stop him from being a force of good/justice
Dictator of smiles
>>72102306
I've got a couple. I've only seen the movie once, but these were memorable.
>lois sees a nuclear explosion in the upper atmosphere, then sees something crash to earth
>instantly knows the kryptonite spear is needed
>batman, in the batwing, is doing a flyby of the impact crater from whatever survived the upper atmosphere nuclear detonation
>the impact crater is on a completely uninhabited island
>he sees a vaguely humanoid figure that is regularly exploding as if it is a walking reusable nuclear weapon
>he instantly knows its kryptonian (despite doing nothing hes ever seen a kryptonian do) and he needs the spear
>so this means he needs to lead the walking reusable nuclear weapon back toward a densely populated area, so he doesn't have to take two trips in the batwing
>once he gets doomsday back to the abandoned gotham shipyard, he then makes absolutely no movement what so ever towards obtaining the spear
>>72103090
They cut the bit where batman says he needs the spear.
So in the theatrical version, hes just leading doomsday back to gotham for no reason what so ever.
>>72102854
You utterly failed to answer my question, but here's another:
What if being what you think of as a force for good leads to a humanity that looks to nothing but you for the answers to their problems?
>>72103050
"This is so your children aren't waving flowers at a reviewing stand someday Senator."
I only saw ultimate edition and loved it. Only thing that bugged me little bit was Justice League scenes felt really forcede and kinda out of the place.
>>72098894
ludicrous. nobody used 2k since like a decade, retard. Real specs are:
>Negative Format: 65 mm (also horizontal) (Kodak Vision3 500T 5219)
>Cinematographic Process: Digital Intermediate (4K) (master format)
snyder can be a pleb, but the cinematography on his movies is always great
>>72103348
Your question about godhood is irrelevant to superman, as superman isn't omniscient. It's one of the defining traits of the character.
your second question is even more irrelevant, as not only can superman be that answer, hes practically obligated to be that answer.
>>72103760
you know how its obvious you don't know what any of those words mean?
>>72103810
You're entirely missing the point. We're all perfectly aware that there is little that's ever a challenge Clark on a physical level, but deification isn't a problem you can solve with a punch.
>>72103845
check the still resolution, idiot: 4928x3280
>>72103090
Yeah, it is clear you only saw it once you fucking nitwit.
Everyone at the Planet was paying attention to the kryptonian ship as Doomsday was being made. Hell, everyone in the city was. The ship was causing outages and electicity was spewing all over. By the time shit actually starts going down, Lois figured, "well huh, maybe this rock that was killing my KRYPTONIAN boyfriend might actually have a use in dealing with whatever probably came out of this KRYPTONIAN ship." It was highly telegraphed to everyone that doomsday was probably kryptonian.
Next, up, Doomsday had already demonstrated that he was going to go on a rampage in the city. That island being uninhabitated was only important in that Doomsday didn't kill anything when it came back to Earth's surface. Batman's plan was to keep Doomsday's attention away from the city while also retrieving the spear. It was a last-ditch effort to both save civillains and kill Doomsday in the presumed absense of any help.
Once he gets back to Gotham, he's short of the objective and hid main transport is destroyed. Plus, it's shown that Doomsday can and will single him out. Batman at that point was trying to keep a low profile and pick the best moment to use the kryptonite that he had with him. Hell, he might had thought that the spear wasn't needed to the extent that he originally expected it to be now that he knew that Superman was alive and that Diana was there.
>>72103994
How people feel about superman is irrelevant to superman.
>>72104027
there's also a boommike in the still.
>>72104180
the entire time lex was making doomsday, lois was in the abandoned shipyard. As was batman.
checkmate.
>>72104339
And you have just perfectly and concisely revealed how little you understand about the character.
>>72104419
Feel free to elaborate.
>>72104411
No. Lois was in the daily planet and her boss wants her to go to the ship which is going crazy. She, seeing that, decides to ask for a chopper to go to Gotham.
Lois knows that something is happening in the Kryptonian ship and when Doomsday shows up she puts 2 and 2 together.
>>72104411
Nope, she had already surmised from her time at the Planet that Lex was up to something at the ship. She also hears Doomsday's roar before she even thinks about going after the spear.
>>72104482
>lois knows kryptonian ship acting up means super-powered abomination will come from it, despite never being within a mile of said abomination or the ship.
Meaning snyder's lois is psychic.
>>72104411
This is factually wrong. When Lois is asking Perry for a helicopter at the Daily Planet, news reports are going off about the ship and the building is having outages. Perry even wants Lois to go cover it.
>>72104561
and this leads to lois knowing what would only ever be a gray dot in a night sky is kryptonian how?
>>72099667
they didn't kill anyone in BvS nigga
>>72104536
>despite never being within a mile of said abomination or the ship.
There is a scene where she is watching the ship on television and the daily planet staff members are giving gross exposition. Don't play dumb.
The alternative is that she knew something big was going down at the kryptonian ship, then a monster appears, but she decides they are unrelated, which is retarded.
>>72104607
Because in that universe, as of now, the only things that fly around in the sky ARE KRYPTONIANS.
Also
>Dot in the sky
>Rampaging beast
Pick only the latter
>>72104618
They killed supes, I think having the dirt float was a massive mistake.
>>72103253
No, he said all of that in the theatrical cut as well.
>>72104607
pretty sure she heard a monster roar dude
>>72105098
I think that guy is just being obtuse for the sake of being obtuse.
There are parts of the movie that can certainly be critiqued, but he is just purposely mis-remembering or making things up.
Funny enough I saw the original cut and told my normie mates not to bother with it because it was poor.
They watched the ultimate cut over the weekend and thought it was incredible.
>>72099184
It doesn't solve the problem that the central conflict of the film is just faked.
>>72104461
Gods inspire nothing but worship. Heroes inspire hope, courage, and achievement. By not finding the right approach, a being like Superman would just become the ultimate nanny of a world-wide nanny state.
Did you notice how frequently he's shown being silent in public? That's because "Superman" is very much a public persona that Clark hasn't fully developed yet, and he's shown slowly becoming aware of how his lack of a public voice is allowing people to paint him in whatever light they so choose - hero, menace, savior, god. Senator Finch mentions multiple times how important establishing a dialogue with the public is for a person like Superman. It's no coincidence that her own speech is interrupted by the bombing. It's a hint to the audience that Lex's bomb cut short not only Finch's speech, but the opening up of Superman's own public dialogue.
In Donner's films, Clark is arguably shown to be the "disguise," but they're taking a different tack in these films. Superman's only two years into his public career at the close of the film, and he's still figuring out how to be "Superman" as a separate entity from shy, retiring Clark Kent. That's going to become even more important on his return. If you think it was hard to dodge godhood before, just wait till he comes back from the dead. Finding and projecting the appropriate public persona is going to be crucial to combatting that, and for help in defining it, I think he's going to seek advice from a master of deception with long experience in crafting identities.
>>72099472
>it doesn't lessen it, it just solidifies Lex's plan
Wrong. A plan that relies on everything going exactly right is a shitty plan.
>>72105486
what a weird and irrelevant statement, and yet still incorrect.
>>72105417
Good post anon. There's do much nuance to this movie that I missed a considerable amount
>>72105486
There are actually a lot of failsafes to Lex's plan. That "Lex Luthor Explained" article listed earlier goes over a lot of them.
In the case that Superman did notice the bomb, then what? He saves everyone, but as shown in the Ultimate cut, Luthor had already taken steps to hide his involvement (heavily tampering Wallace's apartment to make the bombing look highly premeditated). The hearing then gets canceled or rescheduled and Luthor tries something else later on.
Assuming Wallace survives, he would've probably been assasinated by KGBeast (like what happened to the woman in the Ultimate cut). I also wouldn't put it past Lex to remotely or automatically detonate the chair if the bomb was ever discovered.
>>72106130
Too bad he didn't account for Batman and Superman's moms having the same name.
>>72105417
cool
where is any of that in the movie
>>72106645
I like how he knew who batman was and who superman was, but somehow, didn't think thier mommys having the same name would be important.
Also how batman did zero research on clark kent.
>>72104791
So he isn't dead.
They didn't kill anyone.
>>72106130
the director's cut shows hotwheels personally making and planting bombs. As in climbing up the superman statue with a bomb and blowing it up. lex didn't do anything but block his disability checks.
>>72106645
Well he had to have known. He knew who Clark was and he knew who Bruce was (and Bruce is highly prolific).
What caused things to unravel is that he didn't know them as well as he thought. Lex had the logistics squared away but did not probably care much about them as people- the nuances of their emotions and such. He sure as shit didn't care about Clark despite knowing his history and his actions.
So yes, I think that was an appropriate moment for his plan to fail. It was also appropriate for Lois to actually be the one to drop the bomb on Batman (Superman was demonstrably incapacitated and may not have done so effectively or even at all) since it was Lex that got Lois involved in this whole situation to begin with, in Africa. Lex used her as a pawn but that may have unwittingly worked against him in the end.
>>72107050
no u goof clark is ded becuz he can't be clark kent anymore!
Snyder is the type that thinks clark kent (morality, humbleness, deference, etc) are weaknesses of superman, thus, in his epic franchise, superman is just going to be superman all the time, cause its not like he needs money lol!
>>72107148
You realize what you're praising is the raw script, right? Snyder botched basically every aspect of the film and people confuse that complete and total ineptitude for intentional complexity.
>>72107050
A lot of people died in this movie.
>>72106998
Just because someone doesn't look at the camera and say it with an accompanying PowerPoint doesn't mean it isn't there.
>>72107117
What the fuck are you talking about? None of what you said is true at all.
>>72107050
>So he isn't dead.
Well at this point in time the character is dead.
>>72107312
Have you forgotten were talking about zack snyder?
>>72107178
There's only ever been one thing that could stop Superman, and that'sClark Joseph Kent.
>>72107256
>it's bad!
>no anon, and here's why
>fuck all of that, it's still bad because I insist it is!
compelling...
>>72107339
...
I mean if the "bvs is good" thing is just trolling, horray for you gettin (you)s, I guess.
>>72107370
Have you?
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2016/04/01/interview-zack-snyder-discusses-themes-behind-batman-v-superman/#553f7a234df6
>>72107503
>so like heres, uh, like, all the like, uh, stuff, I like, uh, wanted, to like, uh, do, uh.
Doesn't change the fact none of that is expressed in the movie. You have to dig through layers of sophmoric shit (unless its a jesus parallel) and cherrypick like a madman to find any sort of basic thematic elements.
>>72107503
so does that mean look to people or look to destruction omg so deep
Why would anyone write something so easily taken two ways?
>>72107488
I'm saying, on occasion, you can see the quality of the script through the shit-stained lens that is zack snyder.
That doesn't mean the movie is good.
It's like watchmen all over again. The source material was amazing and everything snyder contributed was to the source material's detriment.
>>72107571
Dude, that's there from the apartment scene forward. I don't know if you're the same guy or not, but earlier, someone said "What people think about Superman is irrelevant to Superman," and this story demonstrates why that is not and can not be the case. When Lois says, "They held a hearing," Clark responds with "I don't care."
Virtually everything that follows is a result of him going about being a "super first responder" and not caring what image he's projecting. The montage is about him coming to understand that he can't keep doing that.
>>72107600
I guess the empty businesses and the candlelight vigil left doubt in your mind as to its intended meaning. I think maybe literature is more your thing. No distracting images to be found there.
>>72107494
Those clearly aren't bombs. He wasn't making fucking bombs. If he was, his ass would've immediately been investigated and like hell he would've been on bail. This is what he WAS doing:
>obsessing over superman
>stitching articles together
>preparing to hoist his gimpy ass onto the statue
>deface the statue
What would have been the fucking point of tagging the thing and blowing it up after. How did he have enough time to tag it but not set a bomb off? How did the movie not even once mention an attempted bombing nor show it there?
You horribly misread those scenes or I'm getting trolled.
>>72107777
I'm sorry, how is "saving lives" a negative image? The fact the first two hours of the movie are entirely built around the idea that, somehow, lex could convince people that superman needs to stop helping people and saving lives and be accountable to the democracy is the main reason most people just tuned the fuck out of the entire movie.
>>72107861
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I saw the complete version today. I personally don't give a fuck about comics, and thought the implementation of Batman was a bit forced when I found out about this movie. I had mediocre expectations. That being said, I thought the movie wasn't as bad as it was made to be. Yes, the tone seemed strange -- and the scenes were pieced together in an almost abstract way. However, I thought it was artistically interesting, yet thematically out of place. The Batman dream scenes in particular reminded me of The Sopranos.
>>72107995
How about you respond to my post instead of posting a shitty image that I'm straining to even make out.
>>72107920
It's not, but not being a man of the people is. By not opening up to the public and just playing the part of guardian angel, Clark's just inspiring people to worship him. That's what he needs to change about his public perception and that's not exactly an easy thing to do.
In a way, it's similar to how George Washington was offered presidency for life and turned it down, only making him seem more like one of the few people worthy of such an honor and responsibility. The same holds true for the sort of worship Clark's been inspiring. Who's more worthy of it than a self-sacrificing hero who doesn't want you to think of him as a god? That's a real razor's edge.
>>72108257
Its the "hotwheels making bombs in his apartment" scene from the smash hit batman v superman
>>72108329
people worship trump as a god. you can't control how people react to you. but if you're invulnerable, how people react to you doesn't matter.
>>72107995
You know? I used to think that was a bomb he was working on, too, but I think it's just a fake-out. In the news reports, he's taken in for a hate crime, defacing a monument, and making terrorist threats. If they'd found evidence of bomb-making materials, I'm sure they'd have mentioned it in the broadcast.
>>72108348
So I am getting trolled. Thanks for making that clear.
>>72098207
The thing is, the longer the movie, the less showings. Tickets aren't priced on the length of the film.
You'd pay the same price for a 90 min kiddie movie as 3 hour capekino, having only made half the revenue each day assuming both average the same amount of viewers per showing.
>>72108484
The scene is literally dude making bombs. I don't know why you're rejecting this so hard.
>>72108386
Yeah, I remember all those times people drew Trump's logo on their roof instead of "HELP."
>>72095158
>Better
That's not saying much
>>72099982
not the guy who made the vid, I am just reposting it on BvS threads cuz the movie sucked.
u cry when faggots post Stuckmann, NC, RLM, etc on /tv/ too nigger?
>>72099121
That image reminds me that human minds are designed to find patterns in things like white noise, that you can give two points of data to someone, and even though they have NOTHING to do with one another the person will still spend time trying to get them to fit together.
That image is a tetris of plot holes and poor directing and terrible writing combined into one theory that is the sum total of a single soul screaming for reality to not BE and the hope to find a deeper, greater meaning behind a guy who didn't want two heroes talking to each other because he was embarrassed to have guys in suits next to each other.
>>72105098
>oh no a monster roar
>better get that spear I threw away that I somehow know Batman needs
>>72105417
Great post anon
Crazy how many people seem to miss the meaning of the Senate bombing in how one of it's intentions was to silence Superman from speaking to the public.
So how did Lex Luthor and Batman independently figure out that Superman can't see through lead?
>>72110112
> one of it's intentions was to silence Superman from speaking to the public.
He was already doing that for past 2 years
>>72110138
How did Lex Luthor know Batman's secret identity?
How did Lois Lane know that the spear that she just threw away would immediately be useful, and go back in to get it?
>>72110138
>>72110432
>lead
By correctly guessing that it was a physical ability to detect more energetic particles than visible light contains and not some sort of psychic power, I'd assume, plus which, Lex had access to Zod's remains.
>identity
He'd been surveillance Bruce through cams he'd hacked in Gotham. It's in the prequel comic. It's also fairly believable that a man of Luthir's intelligence, detachment, and resources could put all the pieces together considering there would have been about two decades' worth of data from the Batman's career for him to look over.
>spear
She knew whatever was happening was somehow Kryptonian-related, saw the battle headed back her way, and heard Doomsday roar. She put two and two together.
>>72110112
no one missed anything about bvs, son.
>>72110138
he said as much in the lois lane interview in MoS.
>>72110112
No one missed that. What was "missed" (read: never expressed adequately) was how "invulnerable flying man saving lives" could be construed as a bad thing.
So it doesn't really matter how many walls of text are spewed out if the movie's premise (people seeing superman being superman as a bad thing) is faulty.
Thankfully all that was dropped the instant lex kidnaps martha, and all plot threads surrounding it are completely forgotten, and suddenly superman is the hero that sacrificed himself to save the world from lex luthor's sins.
Is there any info about the Flash scene?
>Am I too early? I'm early
Any idea or info about what the fuck he was talking about or is it not even shot yet to show what he's talking about
>>72111429
speedy gonzales came too early
rimshot. every one laughs.
>>72111429
so el flasho is la tìmè tràvélààré, right? Trying to give information to bruce in the past, right? That lois matters (bruce needing to be told this = lol), but el flasho goes back too far and its before bruce knows he should give a fuck.
>>72111345
No one in the entire story says it's a bad thing. The only reason it was ever an issue in the first place was a frame job set up by a guy who saw a weakness he could exploit.
>>72111429
>>72111934
At this point, we don't even know what the consequences of him being too early are. It's conceivable that Bruce could be interpreting his warning in such a way as to ensure the very future the Flash was trying to prevent.
>>72111345
>No one missed that. What was "missed" (read: never expressed adequately) was how "invulnerable flying man saving lives" could be construed as a bad thing.
I hate to sound like I'm shilling for the movie (I'm not, it sucks) but I think the idea that he just wanted the public at large to perceive Superman as a doom magnet, people die wherever he goes even if he's not directly responsible
and even though they knew the cripple was behind it, you just know there would still be conspiracy theories that Supes did it. People still deny the official story of 9/11 and the Holocaust.
>>72112606
difference being, 9/11 and the holocaust weren't sentient entities that happened again just to prove the deniers wrong.
Every time lex organized a "doom magnet" scenario, supes could've saved exponentially more lives.
But rather than realize that, snyder's supes just gets all mopey and shit, and goes to talk to his imaginary dad about how helping just causes more problems.
