What are some movies with realistic medieval combat?
A Knights Tale
HEMAfag here.
None.
>>72093522
>implying there was combat in medieval times
>>72093539
Not really.
>>72093587
Damn, you sure? saw a lot of 'em? also what about melee combat in general?
>>72093522
real sword fights ended pretty quickly
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjT4JepA-Vc
>>72093522
>sandnigger with a rock
>taking out 3 templars
>realistic
kek
>>72093522
>combat
most conflicts in medieval times were sieges
>>72093822
but they ain't wearing armor
none of those are killing blows
>>72093522
THE SHREK SAGA
>>72093897
they pretty much all are
unarmored combat is quick and deadly, often both samurai would die in a duel
this is why you want armour to protect against slashing and bros around you to stop some dude with a rock giving you the ol face smash
>>72093835
>Orlando Bloom
>sandnigger
At least watch the movie if you're gonna shitpost
>>72093835
>Hello everyone, I'm a /v/ermin and I haven't even seen the film!
>>72093522
Any films where the protagonist is a knight in armor like the goons in OPs webm?
>>72093522
does he stab that last guy in the eye with a dagger or is that a crucifix?
>>72094051
>>72094084
>hurp durp
>Orlando Bloom - Balian de Ibelin
He's playing a sandnigger you double retards.
>>72094138
>Hello everyone, I'm an American!
HEMAfag and sport fencing fag here.
I agree with the previous HEMAfag anon, there really aren't any.
In terms of personal combat I think the most convincing fight choreography I've seen in a movie was in Rob Roy, but that's early modern rather than medieval
>>72094211
No I'm French, so I know better than anyone what a sandnigger is easily recognize the depiction of one even if it's not played by one.
>>72093897
most soldiers would wear a gambeson or nothing anyways, plate was expensive
>>72094279
SUUUUUURRRRENNNNNNDERRR
Ironclad
>>72094341
you're fucking retarded
>>72093522
was that clip meant to be realistic? In the time it took him to try and take down one of them, the other would have put a sword through his back.
good film though
>>72093587
>HEMA
>realistic in any way
wew lad
>>72093522
I hate Kingdom of Heaven so fucking much. It perpetuates the myth that the first Crusade was an act of Christian aggression, and that the Arabs were comparatively civilized. Liberal nonsense.
>>72093522
none because they'd be boring as fuck to watch in an entertainment film
people want to see exciting combat, not realistic combat
there's a few that tread close to "realism" but they jazz it up a lot to make it something someone would actually want to watch
it's only turbo autists who sperg out about "hurr they didn't angle the sword like muh HEMA says ZERO STARS"
>>72093522
Look up the ending to Roman Polanski's Macbeth
>>72095674
As opposed to reality, which is where arab civilisation was a shithouse product of conquest and the crusades were an act of christian aggression.
>>72095674
but anon it wasn't the first crusade
>>72095876
Crusades started as retaliation then became a needed regular act of cleansing, the same way you use a landmower to avoid bad herbs.
Crusades stopped, see result.
>>72093522
sure.
>>72095876
First Crusade came after hundreds of years of Islamic imperialism, and after Arabs took over Jerusalem and forced Christians to pay a tithe to enter. Subsequent Crusades were less justified, but I hate how that nugget of history is so often ignored.
There was a religious arms race going on between Islam and Christianity, and yet people point to the Crusades as an example of a unique Christian atrocity whenever Islam's crimes are brought up.
If you want realistic medieval combat you'll need to watch anime.
>>72095942
Second crusade was still about expelling Muslims from primarily Christian land, like Iberia and Jerusalem.
Deus Vult, ask me anything
>>72094341
HOLY shit that fight sequence was so bad. Why can't Western directors film H2H action in any way?
>>72093835
>Templars
Those aren't Templars you fucking reddit scrub. Knights Templar were a military order not a fucking character class from a video game or manga or some other retarded shit
>>72096047
>thrusts a sword through 4 layers of armor
>easily pulls the sword out
>realistic
>>72096047
sauce?
>>72096501
Implying Chinese hand seizures have anything to do with reality either.
>>72093522
What movie?
>>72096501
>Martial arts film
>30 minutes of people inconsequentially slapping each other with retarded sound effects added
I want all weeaboos and eastaboos to die. I fell for the "martial arts movies are good" meme and watched the wuxia """""""classics"""""" marathon on El Rey and it was all miserable garbage that I could see 15 year olds thinking was high art.
>>72096163
I love the way knights look
Truly the most aesthetic warriors of all time f a m, especially the Teutonic Knights with the little horsn and crests on their heads.
>>72093522
i love how the shields the first three knights just sort of disappear
>>72096652
jewdom of heaven
>>72096508
0/10
>>72095525
Okay, then what fits your definition of "realistic", dumbass?
>>72096895
>>72094552
You keep telling yourself that bud
>>72094552
No, you are the retard, retard. He's right, militaries didn't start issuing standard arms and armour until Napoleon long after the Medieval Era. Knights were aristocratic professional soldiers whose nobility afford them the luxury to train and own horses. Horses are expensive as shit and the only people who could afford them were the nobility. So knights were usually nobility who trained as cavalry which is a tradition dating back to the Romans and lasted until the mid 19th century. Most armies back then weren't raised using the peasants since almost all were sustenance farmers (conscription where states raise armies comprised mostly of their own population as a widespread practice began during Napoleonic wars) and if they were fighting then they werent working the crops and therefore usually starving. Instead they paid professional mercenary orders to supplement their and bulk up their armies. If you were a peasant back then and you fought you only brought what you could afford, which was fucking nothing since you were poor.
I am laughing and spitting on you retarded video game anime cretinous trash
>>72097428
They also didn't pay soldiers back then, you were "compensated" in the sense that you could keep whatever you managed to pillage after sacking cities and villages.
>>72093587
>LARPing with rules
>realistic
KEK
>>72097662
>any martial arts besides boxing and wrestling
>not bullshit
It's all fucking garbage. Just punch someone hard enough to the fucking face, specifically the jaw, hope their brain smacks their skull and knocks them out. If you think literally anything they teach you in karate, kung fu, kendo, tae kwan do or any of that shit will save you irl you are a massive fucking retard who probably reads comic books and watches anime
None.
Realistic combat, be it a fistfight, medieval melee fight or modern firearm fight is not entertaining to watch.
>>72097806
>implying
I can watch world star hip hop for hours. Once you get over the fact that 99.99999999999% of fighting ends within the first 10 seconds it is very enjoyable. Olympic fencing is fun too but its always over within the first or second move. Metal on metal parrying is not the norm and generally fucking bullshit
>>72096541
BERSERKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
FUCKING
BERSERKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
>>72097662
LARPing already has rules.
GOTCHA BITCH
>>72093747
yes he is right, there are none. mostly due to the fact that actual medieval fighting was fought in order to kill someone not to stage a dramatic experience. therefore stage fencing was developed for this particular subject.
here >>72093822 you have how certain techniques in actual medieval fighting were executed. executing actual techniques in stage fencing would lead to serious injuries on the actors behalf. that is the reason you see people playing armored knights will hit a plate of armour with a sword rather than stick it in the joints or in the neck, since that would hurt the other actor.
>>72096822
What? Those literally aren't templars
>>72094119
Arn
>>72097428
Actually, the price of armour fell enormously during the middle ages, due to ever improving blacksmithing techniques.
While it's true that well crafted full plate was restricted to the nobility, any commander worth his salt would be able to outfit his men with serviceable armour.
The idea that of peasant soldiers went around with nothing but cloth as defence is equally retarded.
> you can train to parry blows in a medieval fight
knights were just fodder sent off to be killed by the elite.
There was no tactics, apart from strategic position on higher ground
>>72099253
God tier movie
>>72099620
>knights
>not the elite
>no tactics
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arsuf
/v/ needs to leave
The west basically forgot all of its martial tradition thanks to guns. It's why eastern martial arts are looked so highly upon.
>>72094138
He's not you fucking retard he's european in the european conquest in Jerusalem watch the fucking movie
>>72093522
>when he grabs his sword blade to disarm the mace dude
pure cringe
>>72093522
>>72093522
>knight dismounts for no reason
>>72102162
You do realize swordsmen were taught to use the entire sword in combat, right?
>>72102162
It's called Halfswording and it was a legit way to fuck up someone in armor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-sword
>>72099247
>>72097428
>>72094552
>>72094341
An easy way to think of it is that knights had to fashion their own arms and armor. So think if suddenly they declared a war and you had to pay for your own weapons. The amount of people that could afford a jet fighter or tank now are about the amount of people that could afford a full suit of armor and horse then.
As technology improved and economies developed, the price did go down, but it was still beyond the reach of the common foot soldier for the entire time.
>>72093522
Any movie with a scene where combat is two chaotic crowds stabbing each other without fancy techniques or skills. That would be realistic medieval combat.
>>72093522
Gods of the Arena
>>72094138
yes, those famous sandniggers born in Acquitaine
everyone knows about them
>>72097544
In the late middle ages some mercenary companies were paid and were very expensive
robin and marian (1976) had some good fights.
Especially since the characters are all old and get tired. Shit that escape from Nottingham is good.
But the end show down between old enemies, not flashy, not heroic... rather ugly and brutal. I love it.
>>72104212
forgot poster
>>72097428
kys
this thread is hilarious
>>72093522
McBeth (the Roman Polanski version)
>>72103170
yes and I can link you to a kung fu article on wiki
doesn't mean it fucking works
>>72105459
If you knew the just the basics about swords and armor you'd know it actually works
>>72093522
Lord of the Rings
>>72097428
like in lord of the rings?
>>72102928
Are there any movies with halfswording?
Obviously the 13th warrior has some of the best swordplay
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120657/
>>72105881
>dual wielding
>realistic
Choose one
Polanski's Macbeth
>>72096016
The first crusade was both to relieve the eastern byzantine lands from Islamic aggression and aid eastern Christianity and also to send the vaguely catholic warlords who were sacking every city in Europe away so they'd stop raiding the western byzantine lands and trying to sack rome.
>>72097803
boxer here, you sound like a person who's never been in a fight and is just talking out his ass, actually you sound like a person who's never practiced any sport regularly
>>72093587
When did your parents realize their spawn was a queer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRYM6B7CTs8
How realistic is this fight?
>>72099620
Knights were extremely valued in combat. They were the most skilled because very few sets of quality armour could be afforded.
>>72096163
What handguard is that?
>>72106091
>Polanski's Macbeth
This shit right here.
>fight with Macduff eventually has the two of them wrestling on the ground because they're both in heavy armor
>>72106091
This movie must have the worst fucking fight choreographs. Not because the fight isn't flashy or martial arts tier, but the fucking awful timing. Literally waiting for every blow to dodge it
>>72109010
that guy moves pretty swiftly for someone in armour
>>72109355
Armour doesn't slow you down nearly as much as you would think.
>>72109010
that's retarded and not how a real sword fight would look. in any case, it's irrelevant as guns win every time
>>72109492
>that's retarded and not how a real sword fight would look
You would know, Mr. LARPfest.
>>72109448
yeah but he's in full armor
>>72109528
anyone who films themselves fighting with guns or swords is autistic
>>72109637
Anyone who posts on a Mongolian concrete mixing board is autistic.
>>72109615
I know m8, that webm was only tangentially related, I'm still sorting through my shit trying to find the other full armor webm's I've got. Full armor does not restrict your movement that much, you can still move pretty fast.
>>72109637
What's even dumber is that there's someone else standing in front of him filming the whole thing while he's waiving that rifle around firing with live ammo
>>72093522
>Guy with rock takes out 3 knights armed with swords, shields and flails
>realistic
Literally kill yourself you shitposting cretin
>>72109771
He shoots shit for a living and they took all proper precautions.
>>72109844
I shitpost for a living and I say it's dumb.
>>72109771
It looks like he's pointing the muzzle down when he sweeps past the camera man though
>>72098139
>Reynald to Guy, "the Templars kill Balian?"
Are you trolling, or seriously slow?
>>72103170
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Half-sword
well...I learned something today. Was the lower part of their sword not sharpened?
>>72109637
Where do you think we are right now?
>>72109010
Excuse me for being uneducated on it, but wouldn't you easily cut your hands doing something like that? Unless blades weren't nearly as sharp back then as I'm imagining?
>>72093522
The fake flail to the back of the head from a knight on horseback would have knocked him unconscious, if not crushed his skull outright. It would be like someone throwing a ball-peen hammer at you from a moving car.
>>72110238
Often they were wearing chainmail gloves, but I would imagine you could grip the blade without putting undue pressure on the edge.
>>72110744
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwuQPfvSSlo
Even a sharp blade can be held like that with practice.
>>72111036
What the fuck is this guy's accent? I'm having a weird uncanny valley sensation trying to place it. It sounds like a weird synthesis of an irish brogue and german.
>>72093522
IS THIS WHY YOU CAME TO THE HOLYLAND? COME ON!
>>72111102
I think he's French Canadian
>>72111102
Pretty sure he immigrated from Norway or some other scandi country to Canada.
>>72096047
What is this? It looks almost too modern/well animated to be Berserk right?
>>72112189
it's from one of the movies
>>72112228
Oh that explains that, cool thanks.
Rob Roy nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=27M5KWI_q50
>>72096047
>parrying/blocking with the edge of the sword
dropped
>>72094138
>father was the constable of Jaffa
Motherfucker you're right
>>72093522
This fucking fight was offensively retarded.
Is this your idea of 'realistic medieval combat?' The guy is literally bashed in the head with a three balled flail and doesn't even bleed. You'd be fucking dead. Then he dodges the most telegraphed sword swing of all time, pulls a knight on his back, and steps on his neck as the fully conscious and healthy knight doesn't even raise his arms to defend himself.
From this example, go watch In the Name of the King with Jason Statham right away.
But really, watch the old Excalibur film. It's hilarious watching the knights in full plate bang on each other as they stumble around trying to walk. Then everybody dies. It's a magical film.
>>72110325
>>72096047
>Punching a fucking steel helmet with a noseguard with your bare hand while awkwardly holding a sword.
You'd probably break your hand doing that. Metal is hard, anon. There was a reason they used to put it on their face.
>>72093522
Richard III by Laurence Olivier
>>72110744
European broadswords and the like weren't meant to be super-sharp. The sharper an edge is, the more brittle it will be. That's why oriental katanas were meant to be used with extreme precision on soft spots.
Western swords were sturdier with thicker blades. They would tear instead of slicing neatly like a razor. Most of the time they were far more effective at piercing, anyway. But you'd be surprised how lethal even a dull metal edge becomes if it's swung hard enough at the right spot on a human body.
>>72096163
enjoy getting stabbed in the dick
>>72093522
None, they probably get medieval combat wrong more than they fuck up modern combat somehow. It's insane how wrong they fuck up fighting in general.
They have to set them up like silly dances because faggots only know Broadway and how to suck black dicks.
>>72113726
>>72108701
better in the book, mormont got his ear and a chunk of his ugly mug sliced off. Other than that, good choreography and highlighting the pros and cons of armour vs no armour
>>72109448
>la poste di falconi is useless
But I love koh so much ;_;
>>72114025
noice
>>72112293
>>72112826
>propagating myth and misconception
Blocking with the edge is fine.
Swords were kept sharp.
See me after class.
>ALL THESE ARMCHAIR HISTORIANS WHO NEVER READ A SINGLE PEER REVIEWED BOOK OR ARTICLE IN THEIR LIFE
please fucking kill yourselves i dont have time to put all you retards in your place just stop pretending you are any sort authority on a subject that is plagued with imbeciles pretending they know things because they saw something on tv or in a movie or heard some offhand comment hat sounded reasonable.
actual medieval history is extremely boring if you've ever studied it seriously and only true history nerds with a background in religious history really take it seriously. all you fucking plebs can just stop, thank you.
>>72117529
This.
Although I don't understand why not to show realistic gory dirty sword fight. It's pretty basic. Holykikes need to overdramatise everything for muh epicness
>ctrl + f
>no mention of the duel that Bill & Ted had, while looking for the babes
I am so VERY disappointed in every single one of you.
>>72096047
Going to need some sauce, boss.
>>72109528
>>72109010
As a word of warning, the guy on the right here is a bit of a joke in HEMA circles and nobody takes him seriously.
>guy gets hit with a sword on his armor
>goes down instantly
wew
>>72096047
Fuck, I hate Japanese cunts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tFOJFyTl1U
>>72095674
>1. It's not the fucking first crusade, it's between the second and the third
>2. Arabs WERE comparatively civilized (even more on some scientific matters because they had direct access and better storage of greek and roman knowledge while too much was lost in the West)
>3. The movie is around Saladin's time, it's actually at this point the muslims finally manage to unite and kick ass, which was impossible because of too many factions before AND the seljoukides invasion prior to the first crusade. The downside is the militarisation of muslim societies and the loss of cultural heritage in the process.
>4. Crusaders were the one who changed the most though. The first crusade was really uncivilised with fanatics charging the walls of Acre and Jerusalem without siege towers or even a ladder, just to show devotion (the Templars in the movie are supposed to be the heritage of that). But the settlers of the Latin States changed a lot and adopted a more peaceful philosophy (Baudoin IV in the movie) but ultimatly alienating them from the more aggressive westerners.
>5. End of the movie shows Richard Lionheart starting the third crusade, supposingly closer to the ideas of Baudoin and Ibelin. But in truth the man was kinda meh.
>>72112707
That's what the crossguard is used for.
>>72096541
>>72112189
>>72119814
Berserk: golden age arc.
>>72094138
character was frankish iirc
>>72102334
theres really not much fighting in FaB tho
>>72097428
>militaries didn't start issuing standard arms and armour until Napoleon long after the Medieval Era
>Or the dark ages and before hand by certain imperialistic nations. But let's just ignore that.
>>Knights were aristocratic professional soldiers whose nobility afford them the luxury to train and own horses. Horses are expensive as shit and the only people who could afford them were the nobility
>except the other people who owned horses. or people who rented horses. Or people who kept and sold horses. Now Knights could afford horses that were raised and trained for war, because those were some expensive fucking horses.
>>If you were a peasant back then and you fought you only brought what you could afford, which was fucking nothing since you were poor.
>Depends on the fucking war yo'. In britain you'd be a trained longbowman no matter what. And every household was to own a sword (which is fucking negligible since war is fought with polearms which are cheaper anyway). Also, ex-military equipment was so fucking plentiful from pillaging that it was often sold to banks. It was literally used as currency. (granted, we're talking crusades at least here)
But soldiers didn't bring fuck all armour with them. Yes, chain and plate has to be tailored, which makes it expensive. (Chain wasn't THAT expensive though, since it's so easy to repurpose). Mail coifs were (probably, according to frequent paintings) plentiful as fuck. Helmets were mass produced.
People don't seem to realise quite how armour works. It's like preparing your fucking kids for the outside when it's winter. But Coat of plates were pretty much basic issue. And yes, you bought this shit yourself and you fucking looked after it for your whole damn family.
>unless you're italian city states, in which case you cave in to english mercenaries who rape and pillage the first state to lose the bidding war.
>>72093522
>What are some movies with realistic medieval combat?
Maria the Virgin actually has realistic depictions. The armor is extremely accurate, the weapons are used like they ought to be, the combat isn't absurd and so on.
Mann says the big axes and the style of fighting used in the final battle between Magua and Chingachgook was based on medieval texts, IIRC.
>>72109528
>casually engaging two targets with no cover
>>72122528
>Nigga doesn't have full face plate or armour
>Lol, let's use the hilt
That is not how that was used...
>>72122514
>>72122528
>>72122545
I mean it's like 5 posts up
>>72120544
>>72122514
>>72122528
>>72122545
too bad it is ruined by witch moeshit
>>72112826
>The sharper an edge is, the more brittle it will be
>>72119981
Yes that's the joke.
>>72099247
Peasant levies probably had little armour. Then again, they were not proper troops. Also, if the army survives the first conflict, everyone probably had armour after that.
>>72111971
>>72111102
he's german. Lived a couple of years in norway, then moved to canada. I guess the unflattering norwegian-english accent rubbed off on him.
>>72109528
>needing all that extra shite on your gun
no wonder america lost wars against vietnam, drugs and feelings
>>72122912
but it looks cool
>>72122935
>looking ''''''''''cool'''''''''' was worth surrendering nam for
>>72112826
>european swords werent sharp.
>>72122912
>not wanting to be as operator as possible
>>72122982
You're still gonna end up looking like Seagal no matter what.
>>72122975
Soldiers in Vietnam didn't have those kinds of attachments, though. They were pretty bare bones.
>>72123062
>don't have tacticool shit
>still lose
>>72123076
cntrl f "the messenger"
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>>72123043
>implying that's a bad thing
>>72110238
>>72105459
Check out Skallagrim on Youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwuQPfvSSlo
halfswording is lethal, and only dangerous to yourself when you are completely retarded.
>>72110238
They usually wrapped a leather band just above the hilt if they didn't have gloves
>>72125148
You don't even need the leather. It isn't a lightsaber, even if it is sharp if you hold it right you won't get cut.
>>72096163
nice buffer tube faggot
>>72102590
One on one the guy on foot has the upper hand
>>72105960
>thinking dual wielding wasn't done
>>72109492
Yea but when your guns get removed from the equation, youll wish you had some knife/sword training
>>72122912
yea, its not like any of those "extra shite" serves any purpose or anything
>>72096047
>realistic
>they never rush at him as one
>>72093522
The way they hold the shield is wrong.
>>72125966
>fighting a war without honor
>>72093522
IRONCLAD
>>72126080
Everyone rushing in at the same time is honorable. Only one mother mourns that way.
>>72093822
Is that the fucking battle theme from The Witcher? I swear I've heard it before
>>72126064
No one cares, faggot.
>>72093587
Remove the H from HEMA, the absence of the intention to wound/kill from the fighters mind transforms entirely the fight dynamics.
>>72122851
Is he wearing the Deltora Quest belt around his head?
>>72126359
Hahaha, yes. From the first one.
>>72096047
>Realistic
>Anime
Gonna need to see your doc for a reality check, son
>>72125963
i have working eyes and working hands.
i don't need some fancy sight, a torch or an extra handgrip.
>>72096047
Another example, set in actual medieval Europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tFOJFyTl1U
>>72093587
>>72094220
HEMA is a joke for autists without the skill or courage to actually pursue any other form of martial arts or go into the military
>>72094119
Ironclad, it's a nice flick too
>>72094120
Dagger
>>72093822
That's not a real sword fight and none of those are real sword techniques, medieval combat was largely fought by untrained men, more brawl than anything else, Swords were used more to pummel an enemy until they exposed themselves and could be stabbed or slashed, even more so with two handed swords. Knights especially would not use these bullshit faggot techniques, they simply could not move fast enough, the suits were mobile enough to move but Knights tired extremely quickly due to the weight of the suit (50kg) and would often fight less than 2 or 3 armoured men in one battle, before being too fatigued to continue, which is why battle lines were made up of mostly unarmoured or lightly armoured men.
Many of the "Killing positions" shown in this video would never result in a kill, as combat does not stop just because someone managed to get his sword to your neck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV3yvOkooYA
This is a much more accurate example of what a real sword fight was like between armoured opponents on a battlefield.
t. Time traveller
>>72127490
Animation is as realistic as you want it to be, and so is live action. Anime places a lot of emphasis on realism in various ways, and there's fully realistic shows and movies too.
>>72127870
>medieval combat was largely fought by untrained men, more brawl than anything else
I've never heard of anything like this.
>they simply could not move fast enough, the suits were mobile enough to move but Knights tired extremely quickly due to the weight
The weight of the armor is distributed evenly, and knights were accustomed to fighting in it. They were fast and agile while wearing it because it doesn't constrict movement as much as people think.
The more likely reason why most soldiers didn't have suits they were very expensive.
>>72112707
YOU would break your hand, Guts wouldn't.
>>72127987
you're right, I should say Poorly trained rather than untrained, Anyone with money could raise an army, many of the fighting men raised from their lands worked the land, but they weren't professional soldiers like the Roman Legion for example.
>The weight of the armor is distributed evenly, and knights were accustomed to fighting in it. They were fast and agile while wearing it because it doesn't constrict movement as much as people think.
They weren't fast and agile, Armour was an incredible hindrance on speed and agility, I didn't say it constricted movement, because it didn't all that much, but Knights could only sprint incredibly short distances and not very fast at that. which is why Knights were Horsed as often as they could be.
>>72127854
>HEMA is a joke for autists without the skill or courage to actually pursue any other form of martial arts or go into the military
true but the OP was asking about medieval combat so it's exactly the same. reminder that the vast majority of 'soldiers' were untrained peasants with swords
>>72128169
>I should say Poorly trained rather than untrained
You can't get anything done with a poorly trained army and there's no reason not to train your troops.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzTwBQniLSc
>>72128265
I don't know what the relevance of that video is seeing as I already said that the suit didn't constrict mobility.
>You can't get anything done with a poorly trained army and there's no reason not to train your troops.
Okay you say that but that doesn't change the fact that Feudal Levies were made up of many peasants, freemen, and then actual trained knights who made up the cavalry and never interacted with the lesser men of the serfdom.
>>72128451
Well actually you said two mutually exclusive things:
>They weren't fast and agile, Armour was an incredible hindrance on speed and agility, I didn't say it constricted movement, because it didn't all that much
Armor was a hindrance on speed and agility but it didn't constrict movement?
>Okay you say that but that doesn't change the fact that Feudal Levies were made up of many peasants, freemen
Doesn't mean they weren't trained.
>never interacted with the lesser men of the serfdom
Even kings and emperors in the past are known to have met with commoners.
>>72093948
>>72128566
I'll elaborate, I shouldn't really use the term mobility for what I'm describing, range of motion is probably a better term, as seen in the video, you can move your limbs almost as well as while unarmoured.
>Doesn't mean they weren't trained.
They were, just very poorly, the extent of their training was how to march into battle, how to stay in formation, and what different drum beats or horn blasts meant.
Professional or adequately trained armies were rare.
>Even kings and emperors in the past are known to have met with commoners.
Irrelevant.
>>72128828
As seen in the video, you can do anything while wearing a full suit of armor.
>Irrelevant.
Since kings and emperors interacted with commoners, what makes you think knights didn't?
Not medieval by any means, but if you want some great and even realistic sword fighting, look into The Duelists (1977).
t. history grad student
>>72127870
>medieval combat was largely fought by untrained men
>In the history of Europe, the Middle Ages or medieval period lasted from the 5th to the 15th century
OH REALLY. Just fuck off, retard
>>72112293
It's not Japanese meme steel, they could withstand plenty of blows to the edge without fucking up.
You're probably thinking of the katana which would basically explode if it clashed with another one.
>>72127900
Like Berserk, of course
So realistic, unlike that live action nonsense
>>72130135
I mean stuff like Jin-Roh, Only Yesterday, Perfect Blue, Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, the Kimagure Orange Road movie, Zipang and Kids on the Slope.
If you can accept that people can draw and paint realistic images then it should be obvious that realistic animation can be done too.
