Actually it is, because women aren't funny.
Come on, you can say it.
When the Feig crew were doing their own "original" movies (it's really just genre films but with "Woman can be gross too!" twist) nobody really took notice of how bad they were since they were isolated from actually good comedies. But when you put women into a comedy classic like Ghostbusters, doing the same exact MY VAGINA and VOMIT LMAO shtick you've had for your last couple of films, people realize that you're complete shit and get angry. Thus you have the Ghostbusters backlash.
Women just ruin everything.
>>72073560
Isn't that a good opening?
>>72073701
Possibly for The Heat, not a 144 million Blockbuster that wants to start a Cinematic Universe.
>>72073701
How long is this stupid meme going to persist when people have explained why "no it's not" over and over by now?
Bridesmaids was funny.
>>72073857
Bridesmaids was a boring ripoff of the Hangover
>>72073701
It needs 500 million to break even.
>>72073560
It wasn't funny
It was just cheap shots and shitty jokes
I didn't laugh once for the whole movie
>>72074011
How? Because it was about a wedding party?
They didn't even have the hens night for fuck sake.
Its like saying The Hangover was a ripoff of Very Bad Things
>>72073701
For a lower budget film, it's amazing. Most films that open like this cap out at around 100mill. It's obviously a problem for a 144mill + film.
>>72074011
>>72074325
Wedding movies are shit
Period.
>>72074325
Very Bad Things was pretty good movie.
>>72073701
i could shit into a dvd and it'd have a better box office opening
Mel Brooks makes women funny, especially in Young Frankenstein and Blazing Saddles
>>72073560
when is the last time in recent history a movie opened with this much of a bomb at the box office opening weekend?
>>72074429
>period
heh
>>72074545
Warcraft, Alice through the Looking Glass, BFG...
>>72073701
Yes, but just as tumblr will find a way to spin all news about this movie into a positive, people here will find a way to spin all news about this movie into a negative.
>>72074515
That isn't women being funny though, that's mel brooks being talented enough to make up for the inherent comedy disadvantage of them being a woman.
>>72073560
just looking at this picture i cant take them serious
its not entirely because they are women but because of what kind of women they are, it just doesnt fit into the established image of the ghostbusters and thats why the only way they could make this movie was to make is LE SO FUNNY. They look so ridiculous and not competent in the least.
and so far from what ive heard this is just the start of whats wrong with this garbage movie. Lazy Jokes, manbashing, plot holes that are too big to ignore, boring villain who doesnt have any motivation and get superpowers for no reason, greenscreen overload, no chemistry between the characters, and so much more
>>72074975
There are 2 scenes in the movie where the characters look at angry youtube comments
Literally
>>72073857
Poop lma o
>>72074713
lol do you not know how to business?
Don't open your mouth about things you don't understand
Oh wait I'm being baited, here have a (You)
I think the problem is more the moralising.
What does it say that Thor (a man) was the best thing in the movie?
>>72075083
yes that too, its just so dumb, and then i see reviewers i usually find acceptable trying to downplay all this bullshit, ive never been a big ghostbusters fan mostly because i havent been in contact with it much, and i still find this shit ridiculous. and they fucking forced bill murray into it, really sad.
>>72073560
Back to >>>/tumblr/ with you.
>>72073560
Somebody asked for this shop in a different thread, so there you go /tv/
>>72075316
whats a jost-buster?
>>72073560
Women can be funny, but not consistently funny. They need the right environment and the right character. They often try too hard.
Examples; Parks and Rec, 30 Rock, Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, The Office, few others.
Movie wise though it's pretty small.. I did actually enjoy The Heat, however almost every other mccarthy movie has sucked ass and is overrated. Heat had Sandy B who manages to make even ms congeanility worth a watch.
Bridesmaids especially was shit.
Oddly Tina Fey and Amy Poehler are perfect examples of funny women that are unbelievably inconsistent at it. They both had two incredibly great shows that they largely helmed and wrote for, yet almost all their movies are AWFUL and SNL was absolute garbage.
>>72073560
>women aren't funny.
jennifer jason leigh was funny in hateful 8. julianne moore was funny in maps to the stars, but you're mostly right
Well, the hate for this movie made me look into the 2009 Ghostbusters videogame I never had played before, and I'm having a blast playing through it by busting alongside the original cast, so I guess I'm glad this turd exists.
>>72075341
Tina Fey did do Mean Girls...
I think the problem with Tina Fey and Amy Poehler is that they love doing projects with one another and their comedy is better suited for TV and doesn't translate well to the big screen. So they do these movie projects that have great premises, but for sketches and tv shows.
Which is a shame because you can tell that both are very funny and intelligent women but their box office receipts aren't anywhere near indicative of it.
>>72075464
Mean girls is such a weird movie, you'd think youd hate it but somehow its good...
Yeah though absolutely. Tiny also came up with Unbreakable and its funny as fuck, somewhat ironically though her guest star parts are pretty bad quality to the rest of the show unlike Liz Lemon.
Honestly though I never saw one good SNL from them, so I wouldn't agree with sketches part :P
>>72075404
but hateful 8 was utter garbage, so her performance is irrelevant
I think I'll go with Angry Joe's review.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCP937VRfI4
its because women cant be gross
men rule the world
>>72073560
Based on that, it was the writing and directing, not the women
the women didn't actually have creative influence in this movie, it was basically Feig thinking that Nutty Professor level humor would work for a ghostbusters movie, not understanding that it was more of a action movie with comedic actors than a comedy with action moments.
>>72076209
we hate men making gross jokes too.
>>72074713
le wise middle ground both sides are the same voice of reason
>>72076270
>the women didn't actually have creative influence in this movie
It's co-written by a woman and there's a bunch of terrible ad-libbing by the cast
>>72073560
>because women aren't funny.
Watch anything with Tina Fey and Amy Poehler.
Women CAN be funny, but most of them are too lazy to joke about anything other than their own gender and bodies.
If the reboot was handled by someone else and had Fey and Poehler, I'd definitely see it. Why? Because they have chemistry.
Women can be funny, but these 4 cunts aren't.
I"ll just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4m6F9g9Mu64
>>72074429
Wedding crashers is GOAT m8 fight me
>>72075226
the push for this movie was very real. if kek could get behind it, I would prefer our memes power a strongly written female comedy equipped with even stronger female characters that were the personification of the opposite of (and therefore superior to) the SJW farce that is their ideal woman. It would be so sweet to not only point to their failure in ghostbusters but also a success of their idealogical opponent.
>>72076169
uhh sexist and racist much?
>>72074545
Jem and the Holograms
>>72075341
Tina Fey and Amy Poehler are legitimately funny people. I think its a cultural thing mostly. I'm Puerto Rican, and in Spanish speaking culture women are expected to take part in conversation and to be witty. Because of it, hispanic women are funny. As even Christopher Hitchens pointed out, dykes and jews are hilarious. Its the average anglo women who is unfunny.
>>72076461
boom
>headshot
>>72076270
>Based on that, it was the writing and directing, not the women
Reminds me of this
Dear lord I didn't know the issues behind the movie were that bad
>>72076169
>Angry Joe
Why
Fucking why
I'll never understand how this faggot is as popular as he is
>>72076555
trips splatter noted
>>72073701
No
Compare to others
>>72076555
yfw you saw a dic
>>72076461
>Tina Fey and Amy Poehler are legitimately funny people.
Then why did Baby Mama and Sisters suck? Why did Foxtrot whatever with Tina Fey suck ass?
>>72076775
>Baby Mama
Director: Michael McCullers
Writer: Michael McCullers
>Sisters
Director: Jason Moore
Writer: Paula Pell
>Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
Directors: Glenn Ficarra, John Requa
Writers: Robert Carlock (screenplay), Kim Barker (based on the book "The Taliban Shuffle: Strange Days in Afghanistan and Pakistan" by)
>>72076775
see
>>72075464
>I think the problem with Tina Fey and Amy Poehler is that they love doing projects with one another and their comedy is better suited for TV and doesn't translate well to the big screen. So they do these movie projects that have great premises, but for sketches and tv shows.
>>72076581
Source on this?
Women can be funny, just not these women and just not with this script. It's a bad movie.
>>72076775
Then why was Death to Smoochie terrible, it had Robin Williams. Because sometimes good comedians are in bad shit. Liz Lemons is one of the funniest characters in sitcom history, and none of her jokes are based on "muh vagina". To declare that ALL women are unfunny is ridiculous. Most may not be, but some are. Tina Fey happens to be part of the enlightened few.
this thread is sharp as fuck
>>72076461
>I'm Puerto Rican
opinionos disregardos
>>72076937
>Liz Lemons is one of the funniest characters in sitcom history
Don't push it
Also, Lemon*
>>72076937
Death to Smoochie wasn't terrible. It is an awesome flick.
>>72073560
>17 millions in one day
/tv/ blown the fuck out
>>72076889
To be honest, every link in the original post I find redirects or to youtube videos or previous tumblr posts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPAklIlov-A&feature=youtu.be
Here is the tumblr post i found the whole thing tho, in case anybody want to check more on it
http://tenaflyviper.tumblr.com/post/146914700045/victoriabeckhamncheese-theotakux
>>72076169
Removing the fat autist would make this way more bearable. Maybe the guy on his other side, too. The middle guy's at least a bit charismatic, but the other two (especially the fat one) are unbelievably awkward, and the middle guy makes it worse by never acknowledging their statements and working it into a dialogue. It's difficult to watch as is.
>>72073560
>>72074447
that would be a shitty movie experience haha
>tfw clapmurica has no based dykes like toksvig or burke
No wonder you think women can't be funny. It's all poop/sex jokes coming from hotties - great to fap, not so great to chuckle IMHO.
>>72076692
Ever watch his review of Order 1886?
Or Ays n Tittays?
>>72075341
Piss off gaylord. Based Fey and Amy Poehler are funny femmes.
Maybe they haven't found the "stuff" to make a funny movie but the shows are good.
>>72076937
Fuck you anon I fucking love Death to Smoochie, possibly my favorite comedic role of Williams, he was so deliciously dark.
>>72077194
hey tumblrina how about you learn to fucking read you newfag I literally said in the post quoting that they are funny, but their movies are shit. Parks n Rec and 30 rock are some of the best comedies in the last decade.
>Won't even be number 1 movie for its opening weekend
Ouch
>>72077194
All you "muh tina and amy" should really fuck off back to red dit seriously honestly
I know this doesn't mean much anymore, but their humor is super red dit core
>>72073701
When they were planning on 40mil+, not really.
>>72077067
lurk long and hard
>>72076704
>last airbender made more
This can't be real
It's EXACTLY what the producers expected you sperglords (55m in the opening week). Ghostbusters is a success.
Original
>4 guys trying to earn a living by treating the paranormal the same way as a blue collar exterminating job
Reboot
>4 women wanting to be cool heroes and fucking failing at it
Is this perhaps Hollywoods biggest case of "missing the point" ever? I honestly think no one at SONY understands Ghostbusters despite how fucking simple it is
>Mfw I just spent a cozy evening watching the original Ghostbusters with the family after convincing them not to waste their money on this garbage.
>>72077295
What's the matter faggot? Are you threatened that funny women like these two exist and are consistently highly praised and rated?
>>72074011
Which itself was a boring rip-off of various "Wacky antics in Vegas" movies and that episode of the Simpsons.
>>72075341
>I did actually enjoy The Heat, however almost every other mccarthy movie has sucked ass and is overrated. Heat had Sandy B who manages to make even ms congeanility worth a watch. Bridesmaids especially was shit.
I think at least Spy worked quite well for McCarthy
>>72077324
They reduced their expectations not that long ago, and estimates have it still falling short by about ten million.
>>72077288
>Parks n Rec and 30 rock are some of the best comedies in the last decade
Office, arrested development, scrubs, not to mention cartoon shit, are all miles better than that rebbit shit
>>72077324
It won't break 40m. Screencap this.
>>72077363
>highly praised
Only God is worthy of praise. Now fuck off back to plebbit you idolater.
>>72074757
Dunno mane. Madeleine Kahn is pretty hilarious.
>>72077080
>http://tenaflyviper.tumblr.com/post/146914700045/victoriabeckhamncheese-theotakux
Holy fuck I actually read all of that, someone intelligent on tumblr. She btfo'd gurlbusters HARD.
>>72077294
and it didn't even have any competition, either.
What else opened this week? The Infiltrator, Cafe Society, Equals, Phantom Boy, and Undrafted. I think they were all limited releases.
Even with zero competition, you still came in dead last. Couldn't even win by default.
>>72077363
threatened lol
No but it does upset me a bit. But boy are you all pissy about it
>>72077295
your box is incredibly limited. you would have to be a zealot slaved to some ideology to not concede that tina and amy are contemporary masters of a specific genre of comedy.
even wasting a moment to barf up muh reddit meta is gay as fuck. be more interesting.
>>72077392
Define "reddit shit" then you shitposting memester.
>>72077404
Great retort, faggot.
>>72077370
It was alright, but largely the non-comeian males easily stole the movie, like no contest. Basically she did nothing.
>>72077008
What does him being Puerto Rican have to do with anything?
>>72077392
>some
how about you learn to read you fucking edgelord.
I think women can be funny....but this movie really wasn't. I think this movie could've been a lot better but it felt flat. I pretty bored while watching it. I'm a bit confused though since people were saying there was a lot of male bashing but I didn't notice anything. All the male bashing I saw was from posts on tumblr that sounded like they were exclusively written by immature teenage girls (which is probably the case.)
But yeah, I only liked that one action scene with the "crazy" girl and the moments where people were possessed by that weird guy only because their voices sounded smooth.
Will someone explain to me what's with the push for this movie to the point of critics being called misogynists and babymen and an e-celeb getting bullied by feminists and random SJW celebrities?
>>72076704
It did better than Cloverfield, the LEGO Movie, Lucy, Troy, High School Musical 3, Bad Boys II, Interstellar, Independence Day: Resurgence, and the Purge.
>>72077325
you and a surprising amount of people misunderstand the situation. those that powered this version of this movie through wasn't unaware of exactly what you wrote. of course they were approached with that analysis. it's just that they're used to skull fucking dog shit down your throats on the regular for decades that they figured it could be spun and hyped and message molded straight injected into the culture and it would stick. because fuck you goy.
lol vagina vomit lol lol slime in EVERY crack rofl
Wait, I'm not 12 years old. Nothing about that is funny.
This comedy film isn't funny at all.
>>72077561
They put all their eggs in one basket with this one. It's no longer just a movie, its success or failure is the Final Statement on Feminism in the West.
>>72077469
>specific genre of comedy
Yes, red dit style comedy.
>muh reddit meta
See, that's what happens when you fags abuse a good adjective, it loses all its meaning even when used properly. Their humor is totally red dit. As in, it's what xDD red dittors find hilarious. Trust me, I spend more time there then here, I know what I'm talking about. So yeah, it's appropriate to say Tina and Amy are totally red dit
Nothing like watching a movie and seeing a female comedian deliver her line, then she waits for the canned laughter in her head before continuing.
>>72074713
Arithmetic has no spin, bro
>>72073701
nope
>>72077567
Id warrant a check on half of those due to inflation
>>72076704
>did worse than Alvin and the Chipmunks the Squeakquel
>>72077561
>>72077561
honestly? big picture? dissolution of the white race.
it's a many many many year'd plan (often by last minute twist of fate audible) that's peaking on a lot of fronts right now: black and white race tension, sjw takeover of millennial thought via university/youth media, refugee flood in europe...
>>72077324
>55m in the opening week
>17m thursday-friday
>expecting it to do 38m on saturday/sunday
Also, that's ridiculous PR bullshit. Assuming a $50m open and the standard week-over-week revenue curve for a Hollywood blockbuster, which would be incredibly low for a movie with this bad word of mouth, the thing would need to be in theaters for about 13 months to reach its ~300m break-even point
A projected 55m opening weekend, compared to other "blockbusters" this year, points to a final domestic gross of about $130 million IF it has the box-office longevity of Civil War or Iron Man 3
Which it won't. This is an unmitigated disaster for Sony. They might lose $100 million on this film.
>>72073857
i thought so too
i think its because it wasnt a feminist motivated movie. it didn't really come off as tryhard
>>72073560
Did it fail?
>>72077324
>It's EXACTLY what the producers expected you sperglords
The expected gross is always increased or decreased on the fly. They spent 144million+advertising, so it is literally impossible that they EXPECT to get 50million in the first weekend. And if that was what they were expected, it means they expected to lose money. That's not how it works.
In gneral, if the studio realise they have a bad film, they would 1.hide how much money they spent making it as much as they can and 2. Lower their projections so as to pretend they weren't disappointed.
>>72077324
>55m in the opening week
<citation needed>
>>72077697
Independence Day was recent. LEGO Movie was just a few years ago and that's a hit. Interstellar was disappointing but a hit.
Also, fucking Cloverfield was just under 10 years ago. It's not like we're talking Gone with the Wind ticket sales here.
y'all just sexist
>>72076704
What am I looking at?
>>72077646
>only explanation of reddit shit is that people who browse reddit enjoy it
So this is the only reason they're shit? Just because you're a jaded fuck who hates the "other site"? Lol pathetic.
There's nothing wrong with their genre or style of comedy. It's hilarious, deal with it.
>>72073560
WTF were they expecting when they alienated 99% of the original fanbase?
it's just one fuckup after another with Sony.
>>72077753
I think the feminist motivation came after the film was in the can and execs had seen the rough cut. Like, they started out with "lol won't this be a wacky take, all girls, why the fuck not" and then saw what a festering bucket of diarrhea Feig had delivered, and then it was "how the fuck can we get anyone to see this fucking movie so we don't all lose our jobs"
And then some bright person at Sony's marketing department decided their only hope was to ride the feminist angle hard, and try to make seeing Ghostbusters some kind of a revolutionary political act. It's a Hail Mary marketing strategy for a deeply shitty movie
Doesn't look like it worked.
>>72077325
>>72077576
Women tend not to take blue-collar work, you realize this right?
How many female garbage collectors, sewer maintenance personnel, pest exterminators or asphalt layers have you met in your lifetime?
Those jobs are not compelling to women or indicative of doing well. A woman working a job like that would be seen by other women as having failed from job-oriented perspective. So they HAD to make them artificially cool quirky super-scientists. Even the black woman is raised up from her mundane white-collar receptionist job to become a superhero like the rest of them. It's not a story about four losers winning, it's about four winners winning even bigger.
The ghostbusters were heroes because they did their jobs.
The all-female ghostbusters are heroes because anything short of that would have been sexist garbage.
Neofaggots on suicide watch.
"Very Surprised GAF likes it so much. Completely dumbfounded at the guy on the last page who liked it more than the original."
"Originally Posted by excelsiorlef
And likewise I'm dumbfounded you didn’t find it funny at all... see how two can play that game?
I'll put this out there these Ghostbusters are more likeable and relatable for me than the originals with the exception of maybe Winston."
Can you say BRAINWASHED
>>72077806
You really are a cuck for these women aren't you
>Its like saying The Hangover was a ripoff of Very Bad Things
>France's title for The Hangover is literally Very Bad Trip
well now it makes sense
>>72077646
maybe the memes of the shows posted on reddit is
>red dit
but there a many other aspects of said shows that were comedically, on a classical and technical sense, incredibly sound and not at all iterative or "easy."
So I concede that parts (we would have to hash out how much) of their shows were
>red dit
but it is a fool who simply flushes as if ridding veruca salt
>>72074515
up yours nigger!
>>72077881
http://takimag.com/article/feminism_as_a_mating_strategy_among_beta_males_jim_goad/
This should shed some light on the issue
>>72077881
>Can you say BRAINWASHED
Can you go back to readit?
Our system thinks your post is spam. Please reformat and try again.
>>72077903
Fair enough
>>72077897
>has no real reason to hate thing
>hates it because of muh lebbit
Just stop anon. You can't possible get any more pathetic than you are right now.
>cuck maymaying
Lel.
>>72077567
all these movies had appropriate budgets, except for Troy which has a disappointing domestic and a decent WW gross.
>>72077881
Isn't that site super Sony biased? That would explain it
>>72077881
Fucking NeoFag has banned anybody with a spine and/or a triggering opinion.
>Mfw they got these people instead of the actually funny Amy Poehler and Tina Fey
>>72077988
>>72077992
>>72077903
There's no point in arguing about this anymore senpai so it's good you stopped. Anon doesn't have any good reasons to be hating the shows. He's just a shit eating pleb with a fear of >muh lebbit is all.
I am confused. Is there anywhere I can go for an objective evaluation of what the numbers on this movie mean? Is there anywhere that is not biased for either women or men?
>>72077866
>A woman working a job like that would be seen by other women as having failed from job-oriented perspective.
Not gonna lie, that sounds like wasted potential and makes me even more bitter
>>72073560
this remake should have starred:
bill murray
woody harrelson
elijah wood
bill burr
>>72077866
>It's not a story about four losers winning, it's about four winners winning even bigger.
Oh man I didn't even completely realize that since they came off as total losers. Probably because the writing was shit and the jokes sucked.
>The all-female ghostbusters are heroes because anything short of that would have been sexist garbage.
Is this real life? Why can't we have more sincere movies.
>>72073857
I thought it was completely okay. On par with your average popular bro comedy. I really liked Kristen Wiig in Welcome to Me. I've heard she sleepwalks through this movie, which is a shame, but not really surprising. She could have at least overdone it knowing she's in a turd.
>>72077866
you aren't understanding the point. you're using logic. the studios simply used ghostbusters just because. there was no effort to bridge the mythology or lore in any real way. properties are just lucrative mad libs to them. you hold them higher as cultural artifacts. modern cinema is about money or pushing a notion into the public consciousness now. not art or story.
>>72077988
Hitler dubs
And yes, NeoGaf I genuinely think has Sony hired shill mods. That site spread so much unbelievable vitriol and misinformation on Xbox unveiling it hardly surprises me they shill for Sony movies too.
>Neogaf
>>72077962
Seems right to call you a cuck for getting all buttblasted defending your idols. Keep it up why dont you
Oh look you did lmao >>72078053
And you call me pathetic
>>72076441
>>72073701
not for July.
This should be the last money turning month in theaters before the dog days hit. If this was March or September then yeah those are good numbers.
Other issue is it's projected to make half that next week. So unless we see a 180 in opinions that means it's going to be lucky to break the already low balled projected 47 million they wanted.
>>72078189
That's how I imagine everyone with an anime avatar looks IRL.
"Look look! A girl shitting the street! I'm a sophisticated adult with high sensibilities, you're the man child misogynist!"
The mindset of Paul feig
>>72078160
In irony if they cared about all that it would have lead to sales and profits.
They took a knee jerk approach of getting on the progressive train without thinking through what that meant abroad.
GHOSTBUSTERS AND FEMINIST/SOCIAL JUSTICE WARRIOR FASCISM!!!FACT!!!.
http://247365hatemachine.blogspot.ca/2016/07/ghostbusters-and-social-justice-warrior.html
>>72078245
Offensive anon, I look like Gandalf I'll have you know
>>72073560
>women aren't funny.
this
>>72078108
>on par with the average popular bro comedy
So it's on par with shit, are the kind of fucking twelve year old who likes movies like vacation?
>>72078061
you are now at a crux in your life where you realize that no, there isn't anywhere you can go to give you the >straight dope
you should by all means continue gathering information to form opinions but realize that you lean to heavily, currently, away from yourself when it comes to forming and having and being able to express an opinion.
you are better because of this confusion and lack of easy life raft
There are funny women, Kristen Wiig is one. She's no Norm MacDonald or Eddie Murphy or even a Smothers Brother. I still think Tig Notaro would have been a better choice than any of the ones they grabbed.
>>72076692
cause he makes content all day instead of bitching about it all day like you and me and everyone else here
>>72078356
Why are you so mad? Can you calm down and type that again so that I can understand you?
>>72078197
>replying to a post that isn't directed at him
>decides to purposely get offended and reply
>"blah blah blah muh cuck! blah blah buttblasted"
K E K
>>72076461
my spanish aunts are funny as fuck
>>72078415
>Tig Notaro
BUT SHE WASN'T IN A BIG SUCCESSFUL MOVIE. HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO MARKET HER? PLUS SHE'S PRACTICALLY A MAN SO SHE'S A VERY SOFT SHIELD AGAINST CRITICISM.
I can totally see this movie being a hit outside the castrated, pussy-whipped misandrist USA.
I mean really, what's not to love about the Vagina Monologues in quadruple stereo while dancing on the desecrated corpse of a beloved cult film.
>>72073560
Women can be funny, but the problem is that to be funny a character needs an exaggerated personality and that can be dangerous for female characters because people always take things the wrong way, which means they always have to play the straight woman reacting to other people's craziness, or have her basically act like a man and hide behind gender equality.
So to be "funny" women always have to be either boring and have no personality, or they need to be acting like men, and males are gross enough it's even grosser to have women acting like that. Not because they can't act vulgar and gross, but they should have more self respect and not act that way.
>>72073701
No, Feig said this is supposed to be a billion dollar movie
>>72078415
Isn't Tig figuratively a man though?
Shit. Is why she's funny? lel
>>72078465
i can't wait to see the asian box office numbers
>>72078503
Sample size isn't large enough to say anything. Wait for the box office numbers.
>>72078044
The only cancer I see is NeoFAG.
>>72078522
I hear it's not coming out in China, which is they biggest Asian market. Pretty much the reason why Star Wars made so much money I believe.
>>72078522
Ching chong where all da white males at chingchongching?
>>72076441
>>72078217
>>72078552
It's losing to last weeks Secret Life of Pets
It isn't even winning the opening weekend battle
It won't get better
>>72076461
Yeah, i think its because people in latin america are more joyful and cheerful than in first world nations. Ive met a lot of exchange students from germany or the states and they are by far the most plain and boring people ive ever met.
>>72078292
true...which to me points toward agenda pushing being the primary of this effort, ahead of profit.
I do not think the studio system is dumb. they are surrounded by authentic talent if they would so choose to promote it. however the agenda is founded on weak premise and it's nearly impossible to enforce through story without relying on notions that weaken basic story structure.
>>72074975
I can't take them seriously either, but it really doesn't make sense to judge them while looking yugi yo card.
>>72078574
It's not
Got shafted because of the foreign film limit.
>>72078577
Asian women primarily watch foreign films for the hot white guys.
Asian men primarily watch foreign films for the action scenes and story.
Nothing about this film would appeal to your average Asian person in countries like China, Korea or Japan.
>>72078623
Relative rankings dont really matter to studio execs. Just the hard numbers.
Gilda Radner was hilarious back in the day. She had great comedic timing and her characters were always on point and relatable. No female comedian has been genuinely funny like that, where you stop seeing her gender and just laugh at the jokes.
>>72078652
>foreign film limit.
Why doesn't China have freedom?
>>72078623
thats what I went to see last friday.
SLoP wasn't as good as the trailer though. It wasn't bad, just very cliche and started to drag on becasue everything just felt too familiar.
>>72078639
>I do not think the studio system is dumb.
I feel they are. Full of pride and arrogance they wanted their version to be made damn the people
And when the people said no they resorted to name calling showing how little they had to stand on.
The agenda has failed in a bad way.
>>72078419
that anon's anger is simply at
>the state of things
it's sad. it's a bummer that what's expected out of films in this era...the bar is so low in regards to story novelty and sincerity. everything reeks of algorithm and it's just a bummer.
>>72078685
Yeah, how dare they refuse the constant influx of ruinous imperialist American garbage culture! Don't they know what's good for them?
>>72078685
Eh it's suppose to work like how Canada limits foreign US TV shows/cartoons and the government will actually pay for TV shows to be made.
The core idea is your culture isn't being bombarded by another culture and that you will see nothing of quality from yours in entertainment.
>>72076461
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5_IcqrM96M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-m_Wy_DzxI
Seconding Tina Fey, and Amy Poehler. I'll add Sandi Toksvig to that list as well.
You know what they all have in common? Their humor is at some base level intellectual. Their jokes are clever bits of wordplay, ironic stories, etc. They aren't delivered in a way that just reeks of attention whoring. They aren't above making sex jokes, but they aren't limited to or by them.
It's just casual. They don't appear to put effort into winding things up. That makes it feel genuine, and that adds to the humor.
>>72078804
The QI thing is great because both men only had one line and big laughs while the women were mostly failing with only very small laughs.
>>72074975
I enjoy looking at this Yu-Gi-Oh! card. I find its name and design quite appealing, though I have difficulty identifying exactly why.
>>72078713
arrogance and pride are certainly sensed, but while those two can lead to dumb actions, they don't denote a dumb entity. just a flawed one. a weaker one.
You grumplegoobers just don't understand this movie's demographics. It is going to make a huge profit when all is said and done and we're getting a trilogy.
>>72078713
It didn't fail though. It needed to only make 20m to be a "bomb" and fail. Now you will have more movies like this shoved down your throat. Why didn't you fight back enough?
I just wish /tv/ would admit you guys wanted it to fail and didn't really give it much of a chance when it was announced to be all-female.
I am willing to admit it didn't have a good box office. I am willing to admit it is not a great movie. That's not the point here. The problem is that there was a large collective of dudes who were threatened by women being put into the role of ghosbusters, as if there was no way it could be good if the characters weren't men. As a man, it's fucking embarrassing, and it's not the kind of world I want to live in.
>>72078766
As opposed to imperialist Communist garbage culture? I mean whose culture isn't garbage now? This is CURRENTYEAR. Maybe some monks in a middle eastern monastery somewhere.
>>72078845
Kind of limited context. He had a 4th degree burn handed to him on a silver platter and delivered it with the deadpan grace of a master.
Sandi is legitimately a funny woman. Not in the gut wrenching laugh way, but in a similar quirky manner that Stephen Fry is. Like Tina Fey and Poehler, she's someone that you can imagine actually holding an interesting conversation with.
>>72078660
The hard numbers aren't looking good either. Remember this was supposed to launch a cinematic universe and judging by its prospective opening weekend it won't even launch a sequel.
It's kinda like what Sony did with the American Girl With the Dragon Tattoo movie in that they remade it to cash in on the popularity of the Swedish trilogy but then they didn't get past the first movie.
The Fincher movie was really good but my point is that even when Sony succeed they lose.
>>72078796
That isn't fair. I have to live in Murika and be constantly bombarded by Murikan garbage so why do they get sheltered from it just because they live in another country?
>>72078983
>I am willing to admit it is not a great movie
>That's not the point here.
that literally is the point though.
the cast and director could have and should have won over audiences. the script as well. but they didn't. they instead waged a tit for tat war with their paying customers and the customer told them to fuck off.
>>72078933
Lel, zozzle & kek
>>72078983
I didn't go see it because the trailers made it look like complete garbage with awful jokes. Fuck off with your sexism meme for people choosing not to watch a movie.
>>72078951
they certainly have the resources to continue to shove cancer fist ripping our bloody nose holes, but events like this whole Ghostbusters prolapsing hint that this is not really a viable long term strategy.
The forces trying to make whatever it is they want to happen happen...they operate, ultimately, under vampire rules. they can do so much with their power, but you have to invite them in or they can't walk through the front door.
this is most people not inviting them in. and until we do it's hopeless on their end.
>>72078983
To some extent it has to do with the Ghost Busters originally being men. If they were originally women this wouldn't be an issue. Just come up with a new IP and make it star 4 women. You don't need to alter a past IP to do this.
>>72079008
I do like Sandi but the other women was really struggling with her joke.
>>72073560
Even if every man never saw this shit and it was a big hit for women it would make a shit load of money. They have to face the fact that nobody wanted to see this
>>72078983
>threatened
good bait
have a (you)
>>72078983
I wanted it to fail because it's a hill on which feminists choose to die, so it would be funny.
>>72079003
You need culture which is unknown/ignored and therefore largely unspoiled, like Danish culture, Sami culture or Japanese Ainu culture.
>>72079049
No. The point is that there is nothing about the genitals of the main cast that determine whether or not the movie can be good or not. You guys were shitting on this movie when it was announced! I was fucking here, so don't tell me otherwise.
>>72078983
>I just wish /tv/ would admit you guys wanted it to fail
Who isn't admitting that?
Their entire advertising campaing was just shitting on people.
Yes I was hoping it would fail. Not because it was starring women but because of how they advertised it.
>>72078983
Right it's not like over half the movie going audience is female.
What the guys wanted is a moot point. This was tailor made for "geek" girls and the like and was a pitch to try and get them into theater seats with the old guard fans filling out the background.
This film was made and aimed to women and that audience has no interest in it.
I'm sure the reboot Robocop, Total Recall, and many others wish they had the chance to hide behind their failings by blaming those awful sexist men.
>>72079088
They'll just brainwash your children though. Even if they don't convince everyone currently alive of their ideology, eventually they will win.
>>72078983
it's frightening that you don't understand the situation. it's not that
>most men hate women
it's that modern culture is provoking a narrative that is, yes, pro women but just as much anti-men. why? why can't we simply take the time and money to just promote women? why the evil twin appendage, always, of an accompanying attack on men and masculinity?
>>72078983
>I just wish /tv/ would admit you guys wanted it to fail and didn't really give it much of a chance when it was announced to be all-female.
Yeah, I wanted this movie to fail. There's nothing to admit about that. It's intellectually stillborn.
I couldn't give less of a fuck about the all female cast. The comedy is shallow and vapid, and it was apparent a year ago. Wow, a bunch of stereotypical characters in a random IP setting. But wait! There's no twist. WHAT A TWIST! Instead of being bold enough to make fun of the audience and their perceptions of stereotypes, the movie just makes fun of the characters. The characters are all just inserts. You could replace them with any other hodge podge of people, change the gag jokes, and be fundamentally unaltered.
Good comedy makes fun of the audience, and challenges their perceptions on reality. Bad comedy reinforces stereotypes.
>>72078983
Fuck yeah I wanted it to fail. But people didn't start wanting that exactly when it was announced to be an all female cast. People began working against it when Sony went completely ass blasted after the initial trailer performed poorly and tried to label all criticism as sexist misogynistic dribble.
When they turned this into feminist propaganda and a political proving point, I hoped for it to fail.
>>72078796
>>72079037
To be perfectly fair the vast majority of the shows that Canada have attempted to create natively are absolute trash. Bar the few exceptions...
>>72077976
This. The Lego movie only cost 60mil
>>72079094
>coming up with a fresh IP in the current year
Hah, yeah nah. You know that film you loved as a kid or a teenager? We're just going to remake it, this time with women playing every role so you know it's progressive as fuck. Hope you like queef jokes, sailor.
Well... doesn't really matter what you like, you're still getting them.
>>72079124
Men and women have different personalities though. It isn't about their genitals. A black woman is not the same as, say, a black man and cannot play the same comedic role without it feeling wrong, so either the comedy is different or forced.
>>72077080
that was an interesting read, this other post she made is also noteworthy.
http://tenaflyviper.tumblr.com/post/140608023070/horhardaho-jennysjetpack
>>72079094
There is nothing about Ghostubsters that would require the characters to be male.
>>72076461
Then why arnt there all these funny spic women?
O wait cuz ur a stupid beaner
What I'm enjoying is knowing Feig is fuming that we didn't conform to his bullshit and make it a hit because of our misogynistic guilt. YOU DUN GOOFED FEIG and you know it.
>>72079216
Once they were set as male though changing that feels like pandering.
>>72079124
>there is nothing about the genitals of the main cast that determine whether or not the movie can be good or not
agreed. so then why didn't the cast win over the naysayers. why create a shitty script on purpose? why alienate you core fan base and treat them like they are shit.
Fieg had his chance to make a film that would silence critics, a HUGE fucking responsibility to the franchise (especially if they wanted to keep making more of them) and they completely blew it with their cry baby drama and projectionism.
the problem wasn't the people saying it was a shitty film becasue it had girls, the problem was that the film was shitty despite having an all girl cast.
Had the film actually beena well thought out film, that was responsible to the I.P. , it would have gotten good word of mouth at release and next weeks B.O would have surpassed opening week.
but no, it MUST be about muh vaginas, right? fuck outta here.
>>72078574
>Pretty much the reason why Star Wars made so much money I believe.
Not really. It did make 124mil but since TFA did over 2 bil it's not a major factor. Compare Australia's population to China's and then compare their box office take. China did 124 while Australia did 67mil
>>72076461
Nice Like Christ, is that you?
>>72073560
I'm legit surprised the consensus for this movie is that its "okay". I was sure it would be terrible.
>>72079015
I hate how everyone wants a cinematic universe nowadays. The Marvel Cinematic Universe didn't really set out to create one. Marvel didn't have any of their more popular properties to make a movie from do they just did Iron Man and it did well enough that they made more and more movies. Now, the universe is so expansive they have to plan all these movies out so that they come together in a cohesive universe and even then, they have to try their hardest to make sure each movie doesn't feel too much like the others.
Women aren't funny because men aren't that comfortable to laugh at them. It's a biological imerative, women are reproductive bottleneck, if we treated women with the same disdain we treat fellow men, we'd run out of women and died out. So male writers are not comfortable with humiliating or mistreating female characters like they can do to men.
Secondary, even outside this trap, there's not much funny in gender, period. Funny men don't put emphasis on "men", but trying to shoehorn women into funny puts great emphasis on womanhood.
Look, despite what the media tells us, the fact is - women simply suck at everything.
Their only use is for reproduction. Giving them rights to vote was a big mistake. Promoting feminism was a big mistake. USA was a much better place in the 50s because none of this feminist garbage existed.
>Go on social media
>See a bunch of geek gurrllls and nucucks attacking and insulting anyone who doesn't like the movie
>See critics attack the fan base in their reviews using it as a justification for their scores
>Basically acting like children because there are people who aren't blindly supporting this
Burn it all down pls
>>72079265
okay is as bad as shit this days
okay get you nothing in this industry
>>72078951
If they decided to give up on The Amazing Spider-Man 3 and the Sinister Six after TASM2 "underperforming" I don't think this has much hope.
>>72079147
this is, unfortunately, true. it's their game to lose. barring some elite level, behind the scenes war in which there are actually capable opponents to this long term plan (it sadly doesn't appear, at least from ground level, that there is), we can only hope either:
they fumble and we recover last minute. arrogance/pride/ some slip that shocks enough people awake at the same time and something overt and organic happens or
deus ex machina. the concept, not the film.
Is it going to make back it's budget?
>>72078983
>tumblr
>lisa
>/tv/ scared of women
On any decent board, this would get one or two b8 reaction replies at best. /tv/ is genuinely full of redditors.
>>72077741
what about international markets?
>>72079304
You make it sound like movie quality has some bearing on its profitability.
>>72079216
Yes there is.
They approach the task of hunting ghosts with the lethargic "same-old" drudge of a blue-collar sewer worker, despite the fantastical and otherworldly nature of their jobs.
That is what is essentially funny about the ghostbusters. That is the literal essence of the fucking films.
You know who doesn't do blue-collar work for a living and therefore cannot realistically approach the same level of comedy as Bill Murray, Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis and Ernie Hudson despite playing the same roles?
Women.
>>72079220
Kek.
That's rude.
>>72079363
It does? Marketing is doing nothing to this movie for example.
Just back from the cinema and I did enjoy it. Sure it has some major plot holes, but not "the worst ever" like people make it out to be. I don't understand the hate.
>>72079176
>checks
Holy shit you're right.
>>72078552
This cuck
>>72078983
>I just wish /tv/ would admit you guys wanted it to fail and didn't really give it much of a chance when it was announced to be all-female.
No. I'll be honest when I say I wanted this to fail since I saw the pictures of them at that children's hospital. I was perfectly content to ignore it like another shit remake or give it a chance if people said it was good
>>72079402
I guess Transformers movies are some of the highest quality movies out there.
>>72079413
>I don't understand the hate.
Then don't comment on something you don't understand.
That's the only way you'll not look like a moron.
>>72079433
>china
fuggg :-DDDD
>i refuse to find a woman funny because of my own sexual frustration
Manbabies are the most hilarious
>>72079443
But I didn't comment or make judgement about the hate for this movie?
>>72079463
how is a 52% certified fresh? what the fuck.
>>72079463
Last I checked a 52% was a failing grade.
