https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=priegK1D_lU
>Grand Admiral Thrawn is canon all over again.
>How the fuck is this guy not a walking plot hole?
>>72053285
Grand Admiral isn't the highest. Moff is the highest.
>>72053370
Moffs are domestic governors on the Imperial ruling council, they don't operate military fleets.
>>72053285
How could a character who will be making his first appearance a plot hole?
>>72053991
Palpatine is a xenophobic racist, and this goes for the atmosphere of the entire Empire.
>He actually appoints an alien from the Unknown Regions to the rank of Grand Admiral.
That's quite literally like nominating a black guy onto the fraternity board of the KKK. Or handpicking a non-Aryan for the highest military position in the Wehrmacht. The fact that he holds the position of Grand Admiral at all is an inconsistency in the Star Wars cinematic universe, it goes against the flow of the logic established by the original story's plot. It's a plot hole. I'd be cool with him just holding some middle-management naval position, like a token quelling piece to keep certain systems in line. But no. He's the Grand Admiral of the Imperial Navy.
>>72054417
Thrawn is just that good.
Deal with it, nerd.
>>72054668
>Thrawn is just that good.
Guess I didn't catch the memo where plot holes are just that good.
>>72054417
>Palpatine is a xenophobic racist,
Where is this shown in the 7 movies and two cartoons?
>>72053285
>>72054417
>>72054832
>Palpatine is a xenophobic racist
Hey everyone, don't mind me, just stopping by with a picture of Emperor Palpatine with his majordomo and senior administrative aide, both of whom are aliens.
What a plot hole, right?
>>72054417
Stfu. Palpatine isn't that xenophobic. Who is Darth maul. Christ
>>72055176
His master was an alien, too.
So xenophobic, this Palpatine, right?
>>72054417
Palpatine being xenophobic in non canon legends shit senpai
Hell his first apprentice was an alien. Sheev just wants people that get the job done
>>72053285
Who are you quoting?
A lot of anons have forgotten the "no aliums" thing is also from the preDisney EU.
It just happened to fit very neatly with the movies, and got used in most of the EU material.
Anti-EU autists blow the FUCK OUT. THRAWNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN
>>72054869
>>72055028
>>72055176
The Empire enforced an official humanocentric policy across the galaxy. Nobody in the original trilogy holds any kind of military rank without being a human. Throughout the prequel trilogy, Palpatine manipulates the Senate on a massive scale, which requires him to cooperate with other species. The second the Empire goes into full swing, you've got human supremacy all around. His advisers are all human, so you can infer he dealt with the ones you see in the prequel trilogy just the same as he dealt with Maul. As a softer point, his hostility toward Gungans is shown when he tells the CIS to "kill them all" when all that was necessary was a strategic front and a military blockade. Another soft point is when he speaks to Jedi Master Yoda. If you're an alien with non-human biology and a different skin tone, and I'm taunting about your physical appearance and the color of your skin, how am I not being a racist?
>Who is Darth Maul.
Oh, you mean the guy he stole from his parents? The guy he back-stabbed and betrayed countless times *and even as a central plot point of The Clones Wars television show)? Just another person to step on toward his way to power.
>His Sith Master was an alien.
What a good point, he totally didn't kill that guy in his sleep during his quest to power.
REVAN WHEN
>>72055599
if it is not shown in the movies or the shows then it can be easely disregarded.
>>72054417
Imagine if SW was based on IRL. Yuuzhan Vong invades galaxy coqnuer world after world, brutally murdering civilians. Meanwhile on Coruscant all mainstream media are saying it's not Yuuzhan Vong fault and to stop the violence they need to ban blasters. Galaxy network is full of hastags #NotAllYuuzhanVong #StopXenophobia #YuuzhanVongLivesMatter
>>72055599
>His advisers are all human, so you can infer he dealt with the ones you see in the prequel trilogy just the same as he dealt with Maul.
Well, let's just see about that, shall we?
>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Mas_Amedda
>CANON PAGE
>Fourteen years after the rise of the Empire, Amedda continued to hold the position of Grand Vizier. At one point, as the Emperor was unavailable, Amedda received Governor Arihnda Pryce from Lothal to discuss Lothal's industrial and mining sectors on her visit to Coruscant.
>Amedda was tasked with keeping the Empire together after the Emperor's death at the Battle of Endor.
So, you don't really know anything, do you?
You LITERALLY know nothing about what you are talking about.
>>72055698
I specifically made sure everything I talked about was only seen in the shows and films.
>>72055722
Imagine if Palpatine was still around during that whole cluster-fuck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj08Jwp-2q0
>>72055479
Because going full retard on EU was also, well, retarded. Yeah there's a lot of shit, but I don't know why they couldn't just pick and choose what they wanted out of it. Which is exactly what they're doing now but with all the hubbub around it.
>>72053285
>gets mad because villain is white
>gets mad because villain isn't white
what did he mean by this ?
>Palpatine is a xenophobic racist
Nice head canon fag.
>>72054417
>That's quite literally like nominating a black guy onto the fraternity board of the KKK.
>>72053285
>pupils
>>72053429
But Tarkin had command of the Death Star
>>72053285
There's a point where you guys meme too much. It gets annoying. Also, aren't you the same people that get pissed off when all the villains are white males?
Here you go, save for future reference whenever someone says Palpatine is racist/xenophobic.
>>72056067
Despite being an organization in its death throes, that isn't the equivalent of nominating a black guy onto the fraternity board of the KKK. Allowing someone to participate in your organization is not the same as appointing them to a position of power, or in Thrawns' case, immense power.
>>72056140
That isn't a military fleet, it's a singular battle station. He was also host to the Imperial ruling council on board. His duties as a Grand Moff were to oversee and preside over the Death Star, which was a base of operations. At that time, it was pretty much effectively the capitol of the Empire.
>>72055787
Even so, how does that retract from his examples of racism and xenophobia throughout the series, even if you want to ignore the extended universe?
>>72056221
Saved!
You Can't Decevie The Sheev!
>>72056306
>Even so, how does that retract from his examples of racism and xenophobia throughout the series, even if you want to ignore the extended universe?
Let's ignore the EU, which is the only source of information that implies Sheev is racist.
Cite me a work in the current canon that ONCE implies he is racist. It cannot be "inferred" like you said before, because that is ENTIRELY subjective and in no way a valid line of reasoning. Cite me a source in the new canon that directly implies Palpatine, personally, is racist/xenophobic/Humanity First.
You cannot, because it doesn't exist.
What you HAVE is HEADCANON based on OLD, NON-CANON EU.
Deal with it.
>>72055872
Haha of course, the only EU stuff I enjoy is the original three Thrawn books.
>Thrawnfags
>>72054417
thrawns race are classified as near human, as in they are a race of humans who where so separated from the rest of the galaxy for long enough that they changed
It's like the difference between Abos and lobsters, at least you are somewhat related to the abo than a shellfish
>>72056419
https://youtu.be/xUlqDMcS_RE?t=48s
https://youtu.be/VCoG7UsHG8Q?t=1m24s
>>72056419
Headcanon, the same as psychotic tumblrshitters.
>>72056825
>Ask for citation and evidence
>Posts two links that contain no proof
What did he mean by this?
>>72056419
can you stop giving (you)s to this retard who is obviously baiting you
>>72056908
I've only replied once in this thread. This is my second reply.
>>72056825
>him calling yoda a little green person is racist
>>72056981
He even said "friend."
"Little green friend."
He's friends with a green alien.
OP disproven.
>>72057020
theyre just playing a friendly game of frisbee OP
>>72056825
At this point I can't realy tell if redditors are this retarded or just trolling.
>>72057191
Terminal subhumanism, they are indeed this unintelligent.
>>72053285
To answer your question it's not a plot hole because of massive retcons. Deal with it.
>>72057439
/thread
>>72053285
Thrawn is a Chiss, from a place in the galaxy called the Unknown Regions where the Chiss Ascendancy is dominant. The Chiss Ascendancy has a treaty with the Empire to pay the Empire taxes and supply them with auxiliary troops.The Empire does not occupy within its borders and the Chiss are autonomous. It is in effect a client state of the Empire. They are one of the few,if not the only, alien species accepted into the Imperial army.
Chiss were often officers in the Empire, but it was unheard of that one should be promoted to Grand Admiral. In this case, Thrawn was hand picked by the Emperor himself.
>>72057754
Cool story bro
How much of it canon
>>72057791
We'll see shortly, but since Thrawn's introduction in the trailer is taken straight from the book it looks like a good portion of it will be :)
>>72057791
None of it? Everything was retconned, Thrawn didn't exist before now.
Ask a stupid question, get a stupid answer.
>>72055599
Even in the old EU, with the human-centric Empire, Thrawn rose to power because he was just that good.
Yes, the Empire being all inclusive does slightly diminish the exception he represented as the only non-human to ever rise to the rank of Admiral, much less Grand Admiral.
Still, he's a good, fun character. And yes, it's true we never do see anyone but humans in positions of power within the Empire in the original trilogy.
Still this thread is a lot of sperg on both sides.
The lot of you kids should be gasses.
>>72058008
>The lot of you kids should be gasses.
If you could be a gas, what would you be?
I would be neon.
>>72058084
Neon is for faggots.
All glowing and flaunting its shit.
>>72058124
Yeah, but it's not tryhard like Argon.
>>72057791
Why resurrect an EU character at all if he doesnt track with his already established lore?
>>72057791
>Posting in a thread about why an alien is imperial commander
>give explanation
>BUT ITS NOT CANAN
Star Wars a shit.
I didn't watch the last series so someone explain to me, what's up with Maul now? Is he helping the good guy protagonists as revenge against Sidious for kicking the shit out of Maul and killing his brother?
>>72057791
it's canon
all of it
>>72058151
Argon is just lazy. All hoity toity posh and noble. Doesn't even react.
>>72058909
>>72058151
>>72058124
We're all aware that Xenon is the one full of kiddies who just want to sound cool.
>>72055599
man his advisors look /fa/ as fuck
>>72053285
>2016
>Still caring about stuff that doesn't make any sense in SW
Reminder that the Force comes from a fucking tree and Rey is a the reincarnation of a god or something.
>>72059423
>any year
>believing unsourced rumors
>>72059423
>Rey
>canon
>>72059423
The Force Awakens was a good movie
>>72053429
>>72056140
Moffs are martial governors. Sheev had the grand moff position made specifically for Tarkin so the authority of the position is unclear
>>72056419
The only EU work that suposed to be canon, is Darth Plagueis book.
But Disney Jews fag
>>72058532
Sup Jango Fett!
>>72058008
Sperg on BOTH sides?
>>72060539
>Darth Plagueis book
>ever considered canon
/tv/ - never right
>>72054417
>>72053285
>>72054832
>I'm a stupid contrarian dipshit
Thrawn holds the highest rank in the Imperial Navy because he's a military super-genius. He's too valuable as a resource NOT to use, even being a non-human.
>>72056685
>not liking the best character in the entire Star Wars IP
What's the problem?
>>72053285
>How the fuck is this guy not a walking plot hole?
Did you ever actually read any of the books or play the games or whatever from back in the day? Thrawn was kicking about in the Galaxy at large up until literally a few months before Return of the Jedi. The only discontinuity with old canon here is that he's Grand Admiral prior to Empire Strikes Back when in the old canon he was rewarded with it for stopping Zaarin's coup in the game TIE Fighter.
>>72053370
Nope. Moffs are fairly low level, in charge of sectors. Grand Moffs are pretty damn high though like Tarkin. Thrawn is one of 12 Grand Admirals.
>>72054417
You're an idiot. Palpatine hates aliens, but Thrawn is so useful to him that he appoints him Grand Admiral and sends him into Unknown Space on a 5 year mission to bring them to heel for him. He's literally sent out with no backup into deep space and gets results. He is only one of 12 Grand Admirals and is basically laughed out of court.
In the original canon Palpatine recruited Thrawn briefly as early as Attack of the Clones, using him to wipe out a Jedi task force in deep space called the Outbound Flight. It's no surprise then that he is essentially one of Palpatine's oldest allies.
>>72053285
It would have been more interesting to introduce him in clone wars through an adaption of outbound flight. Shane it had to end prematurely.
Yes I know outbound flight takes place just before the clone wars, but they could have easily changed that.
>>72057754
Your first section is actually completely wrong. You must have played The Old Republic where that is the case thousands of years before the films. The Chiss Ascendancy by the time of the films is an isolationist state which has no links to the Empire at all. Thrawn only happened to end up with the Empire because of the events of Outbound Flight, one of Timothy Zahn's great Star Wars books.
>>72055599
Something something mixtape something fire
>>72060770
>never right
>/tv/
Bitch, shut ya whore mouth.
>>72057439
I guess my argument's a moot point then.
>>72060989
OP here again. I read the first two Thrawn books, but that was like ten years ago.
Does he ever comment on the humanocentric structure of the Empire?
>>72060900
We didn't even know about the Clone Wars in any detail until something like 2003.
Weren't the Thrawn books written and finished in the late nineties?
>>72059333
>We're all aware that Xenon is the one full of kiddies who just want to sound cool.
Fuck you. I was just about to quote these three and announce that I want to be Xenon. But your trips literally tell me to kill my self.
