Step aside Edwards and Legendary. Hideaki Anno and Toho will deliver true kino.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySGeK603Gjw
Stop saying kino, BvS shitters have tainted that word
when is it coming to America
>>72050741
Fucking hyped desu
Effects look really good.
>>72050741
he looks really good in action.
so much more кiиö. like some burning bleeding smoke explosion.
the only thing that bugs me are the tiny arms
>>72051658
Unknown at this point. But it opens in Japan on July 29th. I'm ready to see what Anno has cooked up for us. He put Eva 4.0 on the back-burner for this.
what's this expression supposed to convey?
>>72051827
HOW can it be unknown it it comes out in less than two weeks. trash.
>>72051960
The Japanese release is in two weeks. I'm assuming that North American distributors are waiting to see how it performs in its own country before making any commitments about bringing it to the US.
>>72050741
The compositing of the Godzilla suit into live action photography is pretty impressive. I think it kinda proves that back in the old days, visual effects looked shoddy more because of their poor integration - like how the film quality degrades with each layer of special effects that's added to it, or the black lines you'd often get around blue screened footage, of the need for a locked off camera in visual effects shots...
We saw all this and decided not only that analogue methods don't cut it when it comes to the compositing of visual effects, but also that the effects themselves should be computer generated, leading to at least two decades of unconvincing, poorly rendered effects.
>>72051827
He doesn't direct the Eva movies though, that's another guy. He's just the producer.
>>72052157
>I'm assuming that North American distributors are waiting to see how it performs in its own country
Godzilla rarely does outright bad.
>>72052157
They fucking better if they released Brave Militarymen feat. Godzilla
They know what they're doing when it comes to this shit
>>72052307
> The compositing of the Godzilla suit into live action photography is pretty impressive.
According to Toho it isn't a suit. Godzilla is completely CGI in the new film.
How does it compare to Godzilla (2014)?
>>72052307
Honestly outside of three REALLY noticable examples, Godzilla was integreated pretty well in the original 1954 film. It helped that the movie is mostly at night though.
>>72052440
Are you retarded? They said themselves that they used a suit and enhanced it with CGI
>>72052415
Neat
>>72052415
>>72052440
>>72052540
I could have sword I read that they said it was a giant puppet
>>72052540
That was the original plan. But, as reported by August Ragone two months ago, Toho has since stated that Godzilla is entirely CGI. According to rumors, the puppet failed special effects tests and was scrapped.
>>72052567
Thanks, now my equilibrium is all fucked
today I will remind them
>>72052440
>>72052514
Yeah, I mean a lot of the Godzilla stuff across the years has been really good, and works really well, if not often obviously minatures.
I think my point is that here in the west, we've developed such an unhealthy obsession with computers that this notion has been developed that they should be used for EVERYTHING, resulting in so much shoddy CGI in Hollywood blockbusters.
Although granted, we need it to be terrible before we could get to the point where, like today, CGI rendering can be pretty good, but it doesn't change the fact that a simpler, analogue option can still look better in the long run.
>>72051945
>fuck me I shat my pants
I hope Godzilla actually isn't entirely CGI. Why can't Japan just accept and realize they fucking suck at CGI? I've seen US tv commercials with better CGI than Japan feature films.
>>72052960
>I hope Godzilla actually isn't entirely CGI.
It's not. The first image we saw of it was photos leaked from the set. It's a physical thing.
If this movie fails Japan's entire film industry is tanking with it, they put everything into it and took a huge risk because Godzilla isn't popular with Japs anymore who would rather watch anal seepage like One Piece.
>>72053068
The budget for the film isn't actually that much, nor there has been a lot of marketing.
>>72052394
Final Wars, the last Japanese produced Godzilla film, made $12 million on a $20 million budget.
>>72053061
Yes. A physical prop does exist. Here's a more recent image of it. However, for months now, Toho has been claiming that Godzilla will be completely CGI in Resurgence.
>>72053248
The fanbase has been back and forth on the effectiveness of the marketing. If August Ragone is to be believed, Toho is doing its job. If you believe Jim Ballard, the marketing is almost nonexistent. We'll find out in two weeks.
>>72052415
i dunno why it is but i just love seeing huge laser beams wrecking shit up
https://youtu.be/kmO0WWtVt-M?t=101
>>72053359
>Final Wars, the last Japanese produced Godzilla film, made $12 million on a $20 million budget.
Final Wars also wasn't very good
>>72053359
>, for months now, Toho has been claiming that Godzilla will be completely CGI
Doesn't mean anything, there is a few CGI-only shots in the first trailer, but most of it is practical (probably not a suit, though).
The glow on his scars and the cartoon helicopters in the new spot are CGI, of course.
>>72050741
Why is Godzilla evil now?
>>72053641
because it's time to stop pussyfooting around with a 300 ft tall nuclear atrocity in a world that's already burning to the ground around us
>>72051456
Horrifying
>>72053796
>>72053428
You'll get no disagreements from me. Plus, its box office competition was The Incredibles and Howl's Moving Castle.
On another note, don't forget about the Godzilla x Eva Crossover Promotion happening right now. I've heard the merchandise is selling well. Maybe Toho can attract a larger audience. Rebuild does big business in Japan.
>>72053545
> there is a few CGI-only shots in the first trailer, but most of it is practical (probably not a suit, though).
Ragone said the effects in the first trailer weren't finished and Shinji Higuchi (special effects director) later admitted they were behind. Plus he confirmed that digital effects were the primary method of bringing Godzilla to life this time around. Unless Toho is lying, it looks like we have our first CGI Japanese Godzilla.
Well this one seems to actually have Godzilla in it
>>72052394
Japanese ones didn't really do good in the last 17 years.
>>72053864
EVA vs Godzilla fucking when?
With these two properties coming so close together now, it's insane to delay the inevitable
>>72053796
>those eyes
Godzilla's anglo?
>>72053796
>wait, where are my keys
>>72053864
>>72054017
I'm hoping an animated short will be attached to Godzilla Resurgence. Would be a waste not to take advantage of this opportunity.
>>72052361
But he writes them too, that at least I know.
Also how are you certian that he did not direct them?
>>72054083
kek
>>72051456
Looks like cookie monster
>All I hear is:
>COOOOOKKIIIESSSS
>>72053864
>>72054104
>Asuka with Godzilla
>Shinji with Mechagodzilla
CANON
FUCKING CANON
EAT SHIT BLUEFAGS
>>72054236
Not the guy you're responding to, but Kazuya Tsurumaki does the majority of the actual directing, he's been involved with EVA since the beginning with Anno. Anno's dictating what Rebuild is, but Tsurumaki is running the ship.
>>72052361
>>72054236
>>72054408
Wikipedia lists Anno as Chief Director, Writer, and Producer of the Rebuild films. He has similar credits for Godzilla Resurgence.
>>72054408
ughh no wonder why we have been getting so much shitty CGI on the rebuild movies then.
So Anno doesnt write them anymore? I find that hard to believe.
3.33 was a huge mess thought.
>>72053641
they specifically wanted to create a Godzilla for the and I quote 'post 9/11 and Fukushima world' and it's about time if you ask me
>Godzilla resurgence is actually EVA 4.0
>yfw
>>72054480
Yeah Anno writes them, he's in charge of the story. EVA is his baby. The point is he's not so involved with the finer details of the production.
>>72054501
He looks so fucking evil. I hope he wins.
>>72054572
He'll be killed by the poison they hit him with but his tail will split off and grow into the next Godzilla
Screencap this
>>72054472
Ohh interesting, so he is writting the films at least.
Ohh and toiletfags?
>>72052440
I don't know why but I love that Godzilla, the movie maybe a meh but the design
>>72050741
man godzilla being the bad guy always sucks in godzilla movies.
Modern Big Budget Japanese Godzilla Movie
>>72054291
oh goddammit
>>72054501
Anno seems to be looking towards Gojira (1954) for most of his inspiration. Allegedly, he wants to surpass it and his new film will feature a similar amount of Godzilla. Adjusted for running time I hope. Gojira (1954) is an hour and thirty minutes. Resurgence will be two hours.
Reminder that Anno is a master of trailers.
And remember his last big movie was Evangelion 3.0.
Don't be fooled by a good looking trailer.
The movie will probably waste 30 minutes on Godzilla having some homoerotic romance with some jap teenager.
If the leaks are true this Godzilla is like The Thing, he goes through life cycles and absorbs living creatures and tries to replicate himself in a gruesome way
>>72054691
bravo snyder!
>>72054788
And you're forgetting that Anno is co-directing the film with Shinji Higuchi, so he's not on his own doing his shit.
>>72054756
way too long for single monster flick tbqh
>>72054788
> The movie will probably waste 30 minutes on Godzilla having some homoerotic romance with some jap teenager.
Oh...
I find it almost odd how anno goes from making a philosophical, emotional, beautiful work of art to a simple kaiju flick
>>72054788
>good looking trailer
u wot m8
Solo Godzilla movies are always solid.
>>72055136
Anonymous, you're ignoring the 3 horrible cash grab movies between those two films
>>72055136
implying this wont be the end of eva of godzilla flicks
>>72053641
He was always sort of evil. Half the films where he's the "hero" are about baiting him into fucking another monster up and then putting him into a coma
>>72055136
>Simple Kaiju flick
This is kaiju Kino, you'll see.
>>72055136
>The man who made Rebuild waifu schlock directly contradicting what NGEVA was all about
He lost all claim to giving a fuck quite a while ago
>>72055136
EVA fags can't reconcile the fact that toku shit has always been Anno's real passion
>>72054756
The original had lots of attractions. Godzilla fighting tanks, then planes, sinking ships, attacking trains etc. I hope this Godzilla at least destroys Tokyo Skytree.
>>72055136
>>72055233
Allegedly Anno will be addressing the Fukushima Accident, the recent push for Japanese remilitarization, and the influence/effectiveness of the government (both international and domestic). I think that's more than a simple kaiju flick. And from the sound of it, Godzilla will be treated like an actual god this time around. Maybe something similar to the Forrest Spirit of Princess Mononoke or God Warrior of Nausicaa Of The Valley Of The Wind
>>72055136
Considering how this one is clearly in some way about the Fukushima disaster, I'd say this is the first one since the '54 original to potentially have some real depth to it.
Of course that doesn't mean he won't fuck it up.
>>72055371
so basically its doing what Gareth Edwards movie was supposed to do
good
>>72055136
I feel bad for people who have only seen this and not Love & Pop and Shiki-Jitsu
>>72055371
Every single Toho movie had some kind of message.
Atragon for example spoke against dangers of militant patriotism. Usually it's just one shoehorned sentence about the evironment.
>>72053362
ever been driving at night and its really foggy and youre kinda drowsy and you hit the "WAKE THE FUCK UP" lines and it kinda sounds like these things? It spooked me so hard I wasnt tired the rest of the remaining two hours of the drive
>>72055546
All those lines sound like to me is when you stick something in a bicycle tires spokes
>>72055371
>>72055516
Many of Godzilla's movies and big enemies reinstate the same message of the 54 movie but are topographical for their time.
What I mean is that Godzilla was the horror the post-war Japan felt at atomic weapons, Ghidorah was the terror of the space age, Hedorah was the pollution that was killing Japan at the time, in 1984 the true terror was Cold War tension, and Biollante the fear of genetic engineering that was a big thing at that time (Jurassic Park novel for example also reflected it)
And now after Fukushima they have another huge tragedy to give birth to him again
>>72055399
Why not this? It was about Japan trying to forget the past (sins of WWII) and dangers of doing so. It returned Godzilla to his darker roots. It's easily one of the more critically acclaimed entries in the franchise.
Legendary better give King Ghidorah his own movie.
Also add Gamera to the Godzilla vs King Kong mix
Do the Japanese know that their new Godzilla design is goofy looking?
>>72055711
I personally think Tokyo SOS did a better job of that
>>72055516
> Every single Toho movie had some kind of message.
> Usually it's just one shoehorned sentence about the evironment.
Those were the movies produced between 1991-1995 and I don't think too highly of them for many reasons.
>>72055789
Japan doesn't care about Godzilla.
>>72050741
wow the CGI looks surprisingly really good.
No doubt this will be so much better than the 4/10 Godzilla from 2014
>>72055789
>Godzilla
>Not goofy as fuck
It's part of the charm, a horrifying nuclear monster is one thing but if it looks fucking retarded that's even more horrifying.
>>72055798
the Heisei movies didn't talk about the environment that much, that was Showa's thing and even then it was mostly Hedorah
>>72055845
>4/10 Godzilla from 2014
>>72055949
Hedorah was kind of a loose remake of Gojira (1954). Except war and nuclear weapon anxieties were replaced with concerns about rampant pollution. Seriously, think about it.
And the Heisei films usually shoehorned in some heavy handed, irrelevant message. Especially at the end. Godzilla vs Mothra (1992) was the worst offender in this regard.
>>72055798
The only bad Heisei movies were Mothra and SpaceGodzilla.
>>72056105
It's true.
>>72056160
Return of Godzilla was dull attempt to reclaim the glory of the past and touch upon Cold War fears. The only things that film has going for it is the moody atmosphere and score.
Godzilla vs Biollante was ambitious and one of the better films since the end of the Golden Age. Godzilla vs King Ghidorah was a set down. But still solid. Everything else was varying degrees of laziness. You literally watch the visual effects decline in quality every installment. And there was no excuse. Compare these films to the Heisei Gamera Trilogy and remember that the latter was produced on much smaller budgets.
>>72056418
>Golden Age
What.
Is shit like vs Gigan in the "golden age"?
>>72056418
>the Golden Age
Another Showa fag.
>>72050741
Japs can't write stories.
>>72056539
They tend to write better female characters at least, something the west is yet to learn
>>72054691
Thanks anon!
>>72056418
No, 84 was a no bullshit Godzilla movie that undid decades of damage the Showa era inflicted and didn't compromise on the fact that a giant beast born from nuclear hellfire is a force of nature.
>>72056469
>>72056470
Gojira (1954) - Monster Zero (1965)
>>72056604
Name 1
>>72056627
Movies like Godzilla Raids Again, King Kong vs Godzilla and Ghidorah the Three Headed Monster does not belong in any category proclaiming to be a golden age.
>>72051945
>>72054031
Came here to post this
>>72056627
Man, Monster Zero was such a great film.
Lots of fun, and the fact that it had two really likeable protagonists helped A LOT.
>>72056653Rance, that's 7 on its own
>>72056665
GRA is seriously underrated and Ghidorah indeed belongs to the golden age of Toho monster movies (the 60s).
>>72052415
goddamn it can we just have live action eva made by anno already
>>72056742
Ghidorah is a dogshit movie until the last ten minutes and gets so far up it's own ass with the unbelievably unlikable human cast and stupid fucking princess plot it forgets the monsters are even in it
>>72054634
He looked powerful instead of just fat
>>72056773
>gets so far up it's own ass with the unbelievably unlikable human cast and stupid fucking princess plot it forgets the monsters are even in it
That sounds like every Godzilla film since Raids Again honestly, with varying degrees
>>72056742
Raids Again is a shclocky monster movie dude. Don't pretend it's some hidden gem that's disliked unfairly.
>>72050741
>breaking the fourth wall
>>72051827
>He put Eva 4.0 on the back-burner for this.
M-maybe we'll get a trailer with Godzilla though, right?
>>72056624
Anon. If you remove the emotional power and interesting characters from Gojira (1954), you get Return of Godzilla. I understand what it was going for. But you gotta admit it's pretty weak. Godzilla (2014) has similar flaws. I'd take an entertaining film like Godzilla vs Gigan over either of them. The characters may not be the most developed or the production value the greatest, but at least it's interesting and creative. And Gojira/King of the Monster is my favorite movie.
>>72056665
> Ghidorah does not belong in the Golden Age
Come again
>>72055136
>philosophical, emotional, beautiful work of art
>EVA
>>72056906
>Wanting to see 4.0: I Do (not) Give A Fuck Anymore
Just end yourself fampai
>>72056906
Why would you care about 4.0 though?
Anno and Higuchi doing Godzilla is a more interesting idea than Anno making another shitty Eva film.
>>72056985
Anon should commit suicide for wanting closure? Wow, m8.
>>72057214
The closure was called End of Fucking Evangelion, idiot. These movies shouldn't even EXIST.
>>72057280
Friday the 13th part IV is called "The Final Chapter" but there's eight more.
>>72056963
everyone I've ever seen online or otherwise thinks Return is a great movie only held back by how doofy the face looks sometimes
>>72057214
>Needing closure on a fucking anime that ended over 10 years ago by watching the literal antitheses to it
Jesus Christ, change your fucking nappy
>>72057346
Here is an excellent comment on the matter by Keith. Also known as kpa on various kaiju forums:
"Actually GODZILLA (1984) was generally considered a disappointment by Toho, critics, and audiences because it's missing all the subtext and symbolism of the original GODZILLA. There's no reason given or implied for Godzilla's return, and his attack on Tokyo pales in comparison to what he did in 1954 (Godzilla does just wander around without purpose in that film). People felt is was not much more than a watered-down imitation of a classic, and the mixed reaction played a large part in the five year gap for the sequel."
>>72057514
It's almost like the new Ghostbusters.
>>72057210
Curiosity mainly
I want to see whether it covers the time skip and puts 3.0 in some kind of context, or whether it continues completely with more "wtf are you thinking making this shit, Anno?"
An excuse for more music from Shiro can't be bad either - though Godzilla is delivering on that front too.
>>72052415
When I saw this I had no idea what those things were supposed to be, after watching Nausicaa it's clear those things are the coolest shit ever.
>>72057514
>The Return of Godzilla was a reasonable success in Japan, with attendance figures at approximately 3,200,000 and the box office gross being approximately $11 million. In terms of total attendance, it was the most popular Godzilla film since 1966's Ebirah, Horror of the Deep.
>>72056906
They reached out for animators recently, the chances of them already having something to show are kinda slim
>>72056711
easily the most likable showa cast
When are we (US) getting a theater release?
>>72057861never
>>72057899
You lie
>>72057861
>Yfw will go and see it at the Dendy while Americucks get fucking nothing
>>72057687
Interesting. David Kalat's A Critical History and Filmography of Toho's Godzilla Series only shows the movie breaking even if I remember correctly. And keep in mind that the Japanese movie industry borderline died in the late 60s and 70s. People turned to television and many studios shut down. Return of Godzilla was the first film in nearly a decade, meaning there was a considerable amount of hype behind it. Toho revived the franchise due to public interest.
>>72051945
pic related?
>>72057965
Man, we get stupid shit like Tarzan and Ghostbusters but not this? WTF. America has forgotten how to make money.
>>72058022
Do mainstream Americans cinemas even do subtitled films? Go to a fucking proper theater you pleb, they must exist
>>72058022
>Tarzan and Ghostbusters are low-budget Japanese sci-fi flicks
>>72058022
It might get a limited release later in the year like the recent Dragonball and live-action Attack on Titan films. That's all I'm expecting. Too niche for a mainstream release and Legendary probably wouldn't want it competing with its own movies.
>>72055711
>its a king ghidorah shows up to ruins godzilla's day episode
>>72058070
Well, my local AMC have shown indie flicks and movies targeted to the spanish speaking crowd, so yes, they could show this if someone from the US agreed to distribute it.
>>72058109
Except licensing and distribution rights are kind of fuckey because of legendary.
>>72058145
>it's a godzilla utterly btfos ghidorah episode
>>72058202
Fuck, that sucks, over here we even get shitty anime film subs a month after the Jap release
>>72058214
Sony was nice enough to dub and distribute Godzilla 2000 many years ago. Maybe Legendary will do the same until it gets its own universe sorted out. Do something for the fans.
>>72057687
>>72057966
> After the film's lackluster performance in the Japanese box office and the ultimate shelving of Steve Miner's Godzilla 3D project, Toho decided to distribute the film overseas in order to regain lost profits. New World Pictures acquired The Return of Godzilla for distribution in North America, and changed the title to Godzilla 1985, bringing back Raymond Burr in order to commemorate the 30th anniversary of Godzilla: King of the Monsters!.
> Originally, New World reportedly planned to re-write the dialogue in order to turn the film into a tongue-in-cheek comedy starring Leslie Nielsen (à la What's Up, Tiger Lily?), but this plan was reportedly scrapped because Raymond Burr expressed displeasure at the idea, taking the idea of Godzilla as a nuclear metaphor seriously.
I thought Godzilla died (for real) after melting down essentially?
>>72051456
CAN'T WAKE UP
>>72052415
this looks like shit. why are japs so shit at cgi?
>>72058615
Godzilla vs Destroyah was the last heisei movie, and culminated with junior (killed by Destroyah) maturing into an adult after absorbing senior's radiation from his meltdown.
Also Godzilla vs Biollante and King Ghidorah had the best suits.
>>72058615
that did happen in the heisei series, but that's just one continuity among a fuckton of others.
resurgence is a brand new timeline
>>72058735
Wasn't the suit in King Ghidorah totally fucked by the end of it?
>>72058731
The only CGI is the gubbins in its mouth
Godzilla looks scary as fuck in that film.
Just because they went to all the trouble of building a detailed physical prop doesn't mean it'll be in the movie whatsoever.
>>72058465
God Bless Raymond Burr
>>72050741
Edwards isn't even involved in godzilla movies anymore, he quit because blockbuster filmmaking is too stressful. godzilla 2 probably won't even happen anyways because i can't imagine the new kong movie actually making a profit.
>>72054608
Did you read the script too?
>>72058793
speaking of timelines, here you go /tv/
>>72059782
Deepest lore
>>72059409
So what you're telling us is that history is repeating itself? This is Sony's Godzilla (1998) all over again? Legendary takes forever to make a sequel and Toho decides to do something in the meantime. Eventually Legendary will just outright cancel further Godzilla films, likely after Kong doesn't do well and Toho is left to march forward?
>>72058731
Because it's not CGI you dingus
>>72059887
Just as keikaku and now true Kaijukino will lead the way
>>72059782
knotted twisty shit
I actually really enjoyed Tokyo SOS line. Heisei was kinda shitty but I fucking loved it as a kid so it still has nostalgia value for me.
Also, Godzilla's Revenge/Attack of the Monsters is a criminally underrated film, it's pretty dark shit.
>>72054608
Those are some scrawny ass mr skeltel arms
>>72060102
>>72059782
>98 in continuity with GFW
>GFW in continuity with anything
>King Kong escapes in continuity with DAM
won't even bother reading the rest, into the trash it goes
Hey, this thread is actually pretty good.
Congrats /tv/
>>72060183
Gino was in final wars, did you not see it?
>>72060102
SS + GOMAD
Don't forget. This incarnation of Godzilla will be making his debut next Friday.
>Crayon Shin-Chan vs. SHIN GODZILLA (Anime Collaboration)
>Quick summary: July 22nd, the Crayon Shin-chan series will be storming a collaboration episode with co-star TOHO monster icon Godzilla! Specifically SHIN GODZILLA. The episode titled "Shinnosuke vs. Shin Godzilla's Zone" The mysterious giant monster Godzilla has invaded Kasukabe, Saitama. The town will be gradually destroyed, including the residence of the Nohara family house, which has 32 years of mortgage payments left on it.
>Shinnosuke's Kasukabe Defense Corps will be based within the Futaba Kindergarten school area, where a strange battle will unfold involving Shinnosuke himself.
>Side notes: Godzilla's roar within this anime will be his official roar sourced from the upcoming movie.
>-TV Asahi will be broadcasting the episode July 22nd
>-This will be the first time Shin Godzilla will appear within an anime
>-Godzilla's full design and execution have been faithfully reproduced, from his movements, irregular teeth; to his red and black skin.
>>72060214
so was Gigan, Ebirah, Hedorah and King Seasar. Does that mean their movies and GFW are the same continuity?
>>72060183
It's almost like it's accurate or something. Have you actually seen those movies?
>>72060214
There is no way Godzilla '98 takes place in a world where another Godzilla was trapped in ice in the 60s and monsters and mutants have been battling it out ever since.
>>72060283
>>72060334
Unlikely. Toho just used monsters without regard for their original appearances. I view GFW as its own separate universe with no connections to anything before it.
>>72060183
this better?
>>72060417
>radically different events
Godzilla 98 is also in the GMK universe, did you not see that movie? The events just happened differently.
>>72060401
It's not. Have _you_ seen? (Looking up the list of monster appearances on wikizilla doesn't count as seeing the movie.)
>>72054501
So they wanted it to be shit, just like the post 9/11 world
>>72060489
no, because several of the showa movies are in continuity with the kiryu films, as confirmed by toho.
>>72060511
GMK is different since the events of '98 were mentioned and Godzilla had only attacked Japan the one time and maybe not everybody believed it.
The only connection between '98 and GFW is they use a version of the same monster. The GFW Zilla could have attacked New York in 1998 but it's never mentioned or implied.
>>72060533
Honestly, I'm expecting a marriage between End of Evangelion and Gojira (1954). Resurgence will probably loosely follow the story of the original Godzilla film and include surreal elements and imagery. Godzilla will do things we've never seen before.
>>72060489
the Kiryu movies retcon the disappearance of the skeleton at the end of Gojira, otherwise it seem to be good.
>>72060626
none of the Showa movies that are listed here (aside from G'54)
>>72060517
>Have _you_ seen?
nice grammar senpai. i'll give you final wars but the anon's right about the millennium mechagodzilla movies being in continuity with most of the showa-era movies.
>>72054608
Look at the tail. Maybe he's onto something...
Honestly i just feel like whenever they try to change or "re-imagine" godzilla it turns out shit. He went for 50 years looking relatively the same, why change it?
>>72061661
Godzilla has had many different looks. I'm really partial to the first, vs Mothra (showa), Biollante, Ghidorah (Heisei), 2000 and GMK. I think this one might be another favorite, I'll wait and see how it looks in action in the movie. Fingers crossed it's not shit.
>>72052440
Puppets and CGI. Not suitmation but still practical
>>72061220
>ayy skreeonk
>>72061220
hmm
ANNO YOU FUCKING MISERABLE HACK CUNT, HURRY UP AND MAKE 4.0 ALREADY SO I CAN TELL /a/ HOW IT'S TERRIBLE AND RUINED NGE JESUS FUCK
>>72062960
he doesn't need to make 4.0 for everyone to know he already ruined it
So we can we expect evangelion vs godzilla?
>>72053362
I'll admit, I liked that movie, but in retrospect... Who the fuck stands around when this shit is going down?! I have dreams where stuff starts to go bad and my ass is already high-tailing it. I can't imagine I'd be any LESS inclined to run if it were ACTUALLY happening.
So
Did anyone else actually like the 1998 American movie?
>>72063304
I hear it was/is very popularin fucking Sweden.
>>72063304
James Rolfe found it more entertaining than Godzilla (2014).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BoE9__99hs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BoE9__99hs
>>72063125
eva: 49 meters
godzilla: 50 meters
>>72064279
Heisei Godzilla was 100 meters tall
>>72053796
this eye is fucking retarded
>>72061772
1- Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla suit
2- Godzilla vs Mothra (1964) suit
3- Godzilla x MG
4- Godzilla 2014
5 - G54
>>72064638
it was a joke, anon, clearly Godzilla is much bigger than unit 1.
>>72063304
I can say with certainty that I didn't like it, and I was 9 years old at the time.
>>72061772
1-Godzilla vs SpaceGodzilla
2-Godzilla vs Mothra
3-Kiryugoji
4-Godzilla 2014
5-G54
>>72064279
>>72064638
>>72064796
I hate how fucking stupid the 84 suit looks goddamn.
2016's arms really need to be bigger than that to balance the body like 91 and even 14 managed to do.
Gino looks even more retarded there.
>>72055136
Yeah, it's really telling when EoE is a fucking masterwork while Rebuild is a utter piece of shit
>>72064796
Was 2014 mostly influenced by 1991? They don't loo all that different, besides 2014's wideness
>>72050741
>>72064796
/a/: 4
/m/: 3
reddit: 5
/tv/:8
>>72053864
Of course the boring piece of shit gets the boring moth goddess.
>>72064638
And the rebuild Eva shown in the pic is supposed to be around 80m tall
>>72064796
>SoshingekiGoji
>1974
fucking casuals and their shitty charts
>>72053796
>mfw someone posts Kinema Jyunpou on /tv/
pure kinema
>>72065036
> EoE is a fucking masterwork while Rebuild is a utter piece of shit
Aren't we a little too hard on Rebuild? At worst it's competent and entertaining. Heck, the first movie is just the first six episodes of the original tv show.
>>72065098
EVA vs Godzilla has to get made, it'd be such a wasted opportunity if they didn't.
>>72064279
EVA height is always inconsistent
>>72065253
They've kept it consistent in Rebuild.
>>72065194
The first one's fine, and parts of the second and third ones are fine too, but other parts not so much.
>>72065120
Baby Godzilla done right
>>72065294
I thought the second one captured the general tone of middle episodes. People seem to forget that Eva didn't really get all that dark until the last third of the show. Don't get me wrong though. It was moody at times before then too.
>>72065194
I litterally didn't understand anything in 3
>>72065430
MG2 Baby a cute and is best Godzilloffspring
>>72051456
>>72065493
Yeah. 3.0 felt very disconnected. It was an unconventional way of building upon the foundations laid by what came before it. The film raises more questions than it answers. Everything probably could have been avoided if Misato had just taken five minutes to explain the situation. And does anyone know why Misato didn't send someone to retrieve Shinji much earlier than she did? It's not like she didn't know where Nerv was. She should have known Gendo was up to no good.
But 3.0 does have gorgeous visuals and a wonderful score. And it kind of captures the spirit of the final episodes of Eva. So I have very mixed feelings about it. Anno apparently did too. He fell back into depression after making it.
>>72065722
Perfect
>>72065430
Yeah it was okay, I guess. I don't know, I think it was just hit and miss in places. The fast-tracked introduction of Asuka was fine, I liked the aquarium visit, the Sahalaquiel race was good, with Asuka wrecking the attempt at teamwork, the Zeruel attack was pretty good.
But I'm not sure I like the super-secret berserk mode Mari activated on Unit 02, or that she could so easily pilot Unit 02. I know a lot of people don't like Mari, I'm not opposed to the idea of her character, but I don't think she's been utilised all that well (she served pretty much no purpose in 3).
I feel like the competitive cooking plot between Asuka and Rei could have been something better (it's rehashed from Gunbuster), although I don't know what I would suggest. It's a shame Toji didn't explode in Unit 03, I'm not sure I like how they sorta messed around with the audience on that.
It's a shame Unit 01 going berserk at the end wasn't terrifying like it is in the show. I didn't like the magical new AT-Field arm. I also think the discordant use of a light kid's song for both the Unit 03 fight AND the almost-third impact was a misstep.
I still think the best contribution from Rebuild has been the Ramiel fight in the first movie. They actually improved on the show rather than just making arbitrary differences.
>>72063125
poor godzilla wouldn't have a chance... would rather see them team up against something jet jaguar style
>>72063304
I liked it but it clearly wasn't a godzilla
i'd love to see the creature brought back as some kind of off shoot/faster moving "hunting dog" species for godzilla to use though...
Reminder that One Piece Film Gold opens a week before Godzilla Resurgence. Let's speculate on how the two films might perform financially. Just for clarification, we're looking at Japanese box office numbers only.
Godzilla Final Wars (2004) - $12 million
Godzilla (2014) - $29 million
Rebuild of Evangelion 3.0 (2012) - $60 million
One Piece Film Z (2012) - $72 million
We have no idea about the quality or how heavily either film is being marketed. But based on past performances, how do you feel things might play out? Toho has been pushing the Godzilla x Eva angle pretty hard, so I assume they're hoping to draw in some of the Eva crowd.
![[MaserScans] Monster Warrior Godzilla - 03.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wrgyr8D.jpg "[MaserScans] Monster Warrior Godzilla - 03.jpg")
>>72066448
Japan doesn't care about Godzilla anymore and it's seen as a mockery of otaku. It won't outperform OP and most likely won't draw in too much of the Eva crowd since they generally despise tokushit as being beneath them.
>>72065194
>Heck, the first movie is just the first six episodes of the original tv show.
But still, you don't get that sense of the kind of relationships between characters that made NGE good.
Rei has too much humanity in Rebuild, such that Shinji doesn't really seem as alone, and she doesn't seem so tragically doomed.
His friendships with Toji and Kensuke don't feel as significant.
And it only gets further from that in the second one, and never fully develops the dynamics of Misato, Shinji, Asuka and Kaji's disfunctional "family" that was the heart of NGE
As you say, it's competently made, but it's mostly just boiled down to a bit of a romp about a boy caught up in a creepy conspiracy, surrounded by wacky women, driving a man-made monster. What came before had a lot more soul, and that's why people shit on it.
At least the music is pretty fantastic
>>72066021
>it's a shame Unit 01 going berserk at the end wasn't terrifying like it is in the show.
tell me about it dude, got blindsided by that scene when i first watched EVA on adult swim in the early 2000s
literally had no idea what to think
>>72066553
source on any of that?
>>72066679
Check the Godzilla thread in /m/ right now
Guy claiming to live in Nippon says Godzilla's a mockery today
>>72063686
>Bryan Cranston
>I didn't know who he was
>>72052415
>>72051945
>>72050741
did they fucking hire a 12 year old to design those creatures?
what the fuck
the Hollywood godzilla looks 50x better
>>72066330
It's kinda retarded Toho doesn't use him as a "alternate universe" kinda of thing like they did all the time in comic books
>>72052415
Idk why but it has became one of my pet peeves on how lasers can make explosions out of thin air.
I can see it melting things or vaporizing things due to extreme temperatures, but explosions? Nah
>>72065230
>EVA vs Godzilla has to get made, it'd be such a wasted opportunity if they didn't.
A clone of a god vs an overgrown lizard ?
Seems like a waste of time to me
>>72059782
>No Hannah-Barbera
>>72065080
1991>2001>1974>2014>1984>1954>2016>1998
>>72056906
Anon, Godzilla IS 5.0-1.0.
>>72067373
Didn't they buy the rights to it and then killed it?
>>72067880
>A clone of a god
Angels themselves aren't gods.
Power of the gods can only be obtained by beings possessing the fruit of life and the fruit of knowledge. Angels and their children had one or the other.
Seele built Evas to create a being that could obtain both, and become a man-made god.
Ugh, it's like you weren't even paying attention to the movie!
>>72066448
well if you saw the teaser for gold
you would know that one piece has their marketing on point
>>72066553
A little pessimistic there, don't you think? Godzilla has been in a crunch a few times before. I don't think it's impossible for the franchise to recover. Toho ran him into the dirt with the Heisei and Millennium films. Godzilla (1998) did its share too.
However, now it seems Toho is ready to do things right. They've hired some remarkable talent to help get the franchise back on track. Personal opinions aside, it's undeniable that Rebuild of Evangelion has been an extremely profitable venture. And Shinji Higuchi is considered a modern Japanese special effects wizard. He is responsible for the effects of the Heisei Gamera Trilogy. And also three hundred notable celebrities will be making either a cameo appearance or play a supporting role in Resurgence.
>>72051945
hatred of buildings
>>72052440
they actually can't make that godzilla anymore, it got flagged by USADA for doping
>>72068156
doesn't matter, Godzilla isn't a series built on one timeline/continuity, pretty much every movie has been a reboot since 1999
>>72068052
>1974
STOP CALLING IT THAT
>>72051945
Realising how fucked up you are that you just blew your atomic breath all over some hot little Japanese city when she's lying there all helpless and consumed by fear.
>>72068156
They always had the rights, because the monster was Godzilla. They just gave a new name to the design and used it in one of their movies as a separate monster, but it's technically still Godzilla within the context of the 98 movie. It later release on home-video carried the official Godzilla stamp, not the Zilla one.
The legal issues surrounding that design are pretty messy.
