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Where did he go wrong?
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Where did he go wrong?
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>>72028270
Being a cunt
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i thinking phoning in his performance and ruining the media tour for his part on Italian Job made him unemployable
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As an actor or as a character?

People know and respect his work, Wes Anderson seems to be interested in working with him. I believe he actually does act in theater much like Birdman. I think he's top-notch and too good to just show up in anything.

In the movie itself, he went wrong the instant he started hating blacks. There is irreversible damage that is promoted through racism and once that damage is done it can never be fixed. That hatred needed to be displaced from person to person and as long as that cycle of hatred, and racism exists the hate will also find its way to another person.
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>>72028270
Being an asshole & ruining his shot at continuing as bruce banner:'(
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>>72028270
Skipping chest/shoulder/arm day.
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Getting a degenerate tattoo. Hitler would never approve of such trash.
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What was his problem?
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>>72030187
racism obviously
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>>72028270
When he decided to be a little dick white boi
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>>72029105

I agree. Which is why we just need to hang em high or send em back.
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He listened to his dad and took the action of the hoodrat shitheads he grew up with as representative of the entire race of black people.
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>>72029105
It's physically impossible not to be racist though. It's why you see so many people ranting about white privilege and such, these days you can act as racist as you want as long as it's against white people.
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>>72030572
>He listened to his dad

I always disliked that flashback scene at the dinner table.

Firstly, Ed Norton was too old to pass himself off as a teenager.

Secondly, it's such a heavy-handed "this is what causes racism" moment. And it doesn't really make sense for the characters. If Derek's dad was such a racist, he would have expressed those opinions at a much earlier point in time, and Derek would know not to sing the praises of Martin Luther King in his company. Or at least, he wouldn't be surprised by his dad's reaction.

But the way the scene plays, Derek is like "Huh, I've never heard these opinions before. I never thought about it like that, dad."

It's so dumb. Anyone who has had a racist dad will know that they don't keep that shit a secret for 16 years.
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He went on /pol/ one day and the rest is history.
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>>72030573
Everyone is a little bit. It's simple biology. Not everyone curb stomps people though, I still have trouble even thinking about it.
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>>72028270
The tattoos are permanent
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>>72030867
Maybe he didn't pay much attention to it before that black guy's class
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>>72030573
Theres nothing biological about racism lol its learned hatred its passed down through memes not genes
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>>72033892
Meant for
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>>72030187
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>>72030187
Krager said he looks just like this guy.
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>>72033892
Racism is totally innate and biological. That doesn't mean it can't be overcome. We're born prejudiced to things that aren't like us. What we don't know might hurt us. It's a survival instinct. It might not compute in your liberal programming but I'm sure if you put this to any anthropologist they'd tell you the same thing.
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>>72029105
>There is irreversible damage that is promoted through racism and once that damage is done it can never be fixed

Except he gets over it and learns to stop being racist so that's not true. The problem is his brother followed in his example and died for it.
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>>72030187

Short temper combined with Danny being a dick to him
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>>72033892
it is reinforced by outside forces, but racism is practically an instinct, it's not just a human thing either.

as living creatures we naturally group things by similarities, things like skin color, hair color, facial features, etc.
It's completely natural for a living being to trust those who like like him rather than those who look different, you can hardly blame humans for doing this.

I'm not saying you should harm or hate others for looking different from you, but racism is as natural as hunger.
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>>72030867

I always thought the implication was that his dad was always openly racist, but Derek didn't believe in anything he said until he was murdered.
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He was a fucking retard who knew nothing about races

HE THOUGHT HISPANIC WAS A RACE

He thought the main "Hispanic" was a half raced injun and not Spaniards.

It doesn't matter if you're Jared Taylor or Stephan The Not An Argument Man, if you think the main hispanics are mestizos who were only considered "Hispanic" until the 80s then you are not a race realist.

I agree with Derek that Niggers and beaners are scum but he shouldn't shit on all people of Spanish descent by saying "The Hispanic community". Fuck Him.
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>>72034133
>That doesn't mean it can't be overcome.
Of course. To say otherwise is to say we are slaves to our genetics and free will has no meaning.

And if that was true, we never would have accomplished anything as a species.
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>>72034246
He just blew smoke into his face. I'd rather shoot the kid who told the teacher that he was cheating on the test
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>>72028270
He should have limited himself to attacking Vietnam fucking shits.
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>>72034345

I mean, if someone purposely blew smoke in my face just to be an asshole, I'd at least deck him.
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>>72034133
>any anthropologist
Yeah as long as they aren't from california, I took anthro 101 last year and the professor spent the first day of the course explaining to the class that race doesn't exist and you can't separate human populations based on it
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>>72034410
>race doesn't exist and you can't separate human populations based on it
That's a majority opinion among anthropologists and geneticists
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>>72034437
>That's a majority opinion among anthropologists and geneticists
Certainly not among pharmacologists.
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>>72034410
kek, they got to your professor too
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If nothing else, I agreed with the message the movie ended with

>Hate is baggage. Life's too short to be pissed off all the time. It's just not worth it.

Really it's something both sides need to learn.
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>>72034133
>>72034309
Hahah what? How are human beings different from human beings? Flexible hands, bipedal movement, and rational thought are all traits that human beings share, but racism isn't evolutionary, a human doesn't need it to survive against other animals. When two savages meet for the first time, instinct tells them both "this creature is new to me, what does it want?" but it isn't racism that drives them, its only instinctual suspicion, the same way a red-haired dog barks at white-hair or yellow-haired dogs, but it also barks at red-haired dogs. Instinct drives them, a white savage is just as likely to kill you as a black savage or a tiger or a komodo dragon.
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>>72030187
He's a nigger.
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>>72034452
Assuming you're talking about sickle-cell, which race (specifically and exclusively) is more vulnerable to it?

I'll give you a hint: *exclusively*
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>>72034410
There isn't any scientific definition for race
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>>72034345
>>72034367
He punked that nig in front of his squad.

In 90s LA that was enough.
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>>72034680
Honestly, I'd hazard to guess that stupid shit like that is the motive in 40+% of murders in the US
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>>72034723

That and drugs
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>>72034656
Purebreds are generally more prone to disease than mixed races or "mutts"
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>>72034410
>prof didn't begin with Vico, Durkheim, Levi-Strauss or Weber
>prof didn't even try Structuralism for the poor kids

Sounds like you went to a shit college, anon.
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>>72034452
Didn't know pharmacologists held strong opinions regarding phylogeny. Is that even part of their curriculum?
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>>72034589
Original ending showed Derek back in front of a mirror shaving his head. The message was supposed to be that hate is perpetual, and that racism is a cycle that's perpetuated by dickery on both sides.

Of course, normies couldn't hack it, so it got scrapped.
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>>72034829
He is probably talking about real anthropology. Not that cultural studies crap.
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>>72034866
Sounds shit t b h
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>>72034866
>The message was supposed to be that hate is perpetual, and that racism is a cycle that's perpetuated by dickery on both sides.

That doesn't negate the message they used, if anything it supports it.

On the other hand, that ending basically means you watched a character change and learn for nothing, like it was a sitcom where status quo has to be maintained at the end of the episode.
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>>72034843
No, he's just retarded and thinks that only niggers are particularly vulnerable to sick-cell
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Probably when he curbstomped a guy.
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>>72034938
Really? I think that would have been a brilliant ending. It's completely impartial, and shows that while the minority of blacks ruin it for the majority (arguable) there are always going to be whites who generalise and hate the entire group unjustly, and that it's nobody's fault.

Good message, I thought.
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>>72034590
>How are human beings different from human beings
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/24/health/fda-approves-a-heart-drug-for-africanamericans.html?_r=0
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>>72035062
Yeah but they'd have to explain it to the audience.

Average idiots wouldn't get it, me included.
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>>72034656
>Assuming
Don't do that.
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>>72035128
So what are you talking about?
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>>72035075
>Geneticists worried that, by approving a drug for one group, the F.D.A. was using race as a crude shortcut for genetic typing.
You should probably read articles before you post them.
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