Just a reminder that she's the most powerful remaining single warrior on the show, aside from maybe the Mountain.
>>71979320
Bronn
>>71979320
That's not the Hound.
>>71979361
Brienne would kick Bronn's ass. He hasn't gone up against a single really good fighter.
By the power of feminism!
>>71979494
Game of Thrones combat rules: If you're bigger you win.
>>71979534
For you
>>71979534
Tyrion killed a few people.
>>71979320
>>71979320
the hound would have rekt her if he wasn't wounded/hungry and infected
bronn could maybe kill her
my man jon snow would cut her in half
>>71979931
His dick was bigger
Also note: the Unsullied being totally useless, Hodor being able to briefly overpower 100+ zombies
>>71979998
That's because the show is shit though.
>>71979320
Characters like her, the hound and the mountain are average fighters but have absurd levels of strength. The main reason she beat the hound was because he was dying from an infection and was malnourished. True (show) ranking at full strength are:
Darth Mountain>The Mountain>Dayne>Jaime>Oberyn>The Hound>Brienne>Bronn
The Mountain is a really bad fighter but he's so fucking strong that if you fight him sword to sword you'll never be able to parry any of his blows unless you're someone like the Hound or Brienne. The Viper took full advantage of his stupidity and the fact that he knew he'd be using a long, slow sword.
>>71979378
the hound already got rek'd by her
>>71980663
Not book canon. eat shit.
>>71979320
>woman
>powerful warrior
Stop tripping.
>>71979320
everyone under estimates her that's why she wins.
>>71980627
Idiot, Not ranking Baristan Selmy, Young Robert, Rhaegar or Jon
>>71980862
punished jon would eat soft shite prime jamie alive
>>71980862
Jon is decent but he was still getting rekt by people like Karl only a season ago.
He isn't anywhere near the level of the Mountain or even Brienne. He damn sure isn't anywhere near the level of Young Robert, Rhaegar, or Barristan in his youth.
He's like Eddard, a competent and capable fighter but never really on the level of the truly legendary.
>>71979431
He made a fool of the Vale's best knight
>>71979320
Oberyn would have rekt her in no time tho.
>>71980929
Idiot, he will surpass all once he is revealed to be Azor Ahai. Screenshot this
>>71979534
That is a fuckhuge advantage over a more normally proportioned human.
Brienne is like 6'3 and over 200 pounds, and wears heavy armor. Unless you're really, really good, such a person has a massive advantage over you no matter how you look at it.
Jaime is one of the most dangerous men alive prior to losing his hand and even he doesn't like the idea of fighting Gregor and admits the man could probably match him just by the difference in size in the books.
>>71980939
No he would've beat her to near death then started talking while she recovered and killed him.
>>71980862
>Jon
Jon isn't even a "great" fight.
I forgot about Selmy, so that's my bad,
Rhaegar was a jobber.
Robert was a guy with a big hammer, not even 6ft in the show.
>>71980972
The hound was larger though
>>71980981
Idiot, see >>71980954
>>71980981
Robert was terrifying not because of his height but because of his mass. He's described as being "muscled like a maid's fantasy" in the books, and similar statements are made in the show.
A really big manlet wielding a bigass hammer would fuck people up. Robert rekt people regularly as a young man.
>>71981005
And wounded, hungry, and already dying from infection.
Honestly, after rewatching the entire series, Jon really is one of the best fighters in the show right now. Bronn, Brienne, Daario, the Mountain and the Hound are probably the only people Jon would have trouble with 1v1.
Inb4 Jonautist, the guy has done nothing but fight for the entire run of the show. He killed the Thenn Magnar, a shitload of wildlings, the Fookin Legend of Gin Alley, a bunch of Night's Watch traitors, Qhorin Halfhand, a fuckload of Bolton men, plus he beat the actual piss out of Ramsay with his bare hands. Jon's a beast.
>>71980627
>brienne above bronn when she lost to rorge and biter
>>71981049
This. They're quite closely matched though.
>>71981054
>Qhorin Halfhand
>>71981054
Not to mention the wights and an Other at Hardhome.
>>71981060
We're talking about the show anon, not the books. In the books she's just a normal warrior that just happens to be as strong as man.
>>71979320
Jamie could easily kill her
>>71980936
Practically a no name, tbhfam.
>>71981098
In the books, Qhorin doesn't let him win. Ghost has to bite his leg to give Jon an opening.
Inb4 Hurr hurr Ghost saved him. Yes he did, but the Halfhand was also the second time in his life that Jon had been in an actual life or death fight. Not bad for a green kid.
>>71981054
Qhorin let Jon kill him and would've completely dominated his ass if he hadn't.
Reminder that Brienne's "rank" amongst top fighters is actually reasonable and /tv/'s reaction is proof they see this shit around every corner.
>>71981060
Books are different,in the books she's scared of killing, not an unstoppable terminator.
>>71980627
>Characters like her, the hound and the mountain are average fighters but have absurd levels of strength.
So they are good fighters? Fighting is all about beating the other guy with whatever combination of speed and power you have along with a technique that wins. Obviously the mountain is going to be slower than Bronn.
It's like when manlets say " I could beat you if I were your size", but then you'd be slower you tool.
>implying she could beat fuccboi diarrhea naharro
>>71981160
He wrecked a house's best fighter who was given a healthy advantage, with a shield and full armour. I know he's a no name but it's a decent feat.
>>71981162
>Qhorin
No, it was heavily implied that he let the 16 year old kill him. The show, as always, went out of it's way to dumb it down for idiots. You don't tell someone to infiltrate the enemy ranks and then just kill him when you're basically about to be executed and interrogated.
Jon Snow is the greatest swordsman that ever lived.
>Brienne of Tarth
literally who
>>71981335
Yes, by virtue of their physicality.
What he meant was other characters are infinitely more skilled, but the sheer difference in size makes it a null point and that at best a smaller more skilled person can maybe match them.
Which is 100% truth in television. A 6'3 220 pound person wearing full plate and swinging a bigass sword around is going to be really hard to kill.
>>71981021
But he wasn't even a manlet either
He wasn't Hound big, but he's described as a large man over all
>>71981463
Almost that whole poll is absolutely retarded.
>>71981335
Sorry I should have been more precise.
The Mountain and Jaime are good fighters.
The Mountain is stronger.
Jaime is more skilled.
>>71981439
Alright, remove Qhorin then.
>Thenn Magnar
>Fookin Legend
>White walker
>fuckloads of wildlings
>crow traitors
>wights
>countless Bolton men
>subdued a bow-wielding Ramsay with only a shield and his fists
The guy can fight.
>>71981463
>Jaime bottom
>Daario top
So what you're saying is that we should disregard this poll?
>all these people who claim to be hard
>none use a katana
>>71980929
I thought killing Halfhand in single combat was a big deal
Where does non-dead Khal Drogo rank on these lists? He killed a dude who had an arakh, pretty much with his bare hands.
Also, what about Grey Worm? The Unsullied are trained to fight as a unit, but Grey Worm kicked some serious ass when he and Jorah and Daario snuck into Meereen.
>>71980627
Jon Snow is the best left. At least if you consider his magic sword, which will cut up armour.
>>71981632
Eddard would also have rekt Qhorin with little effort, and he wouldn't have needed Qhorin to give him an opening like Jon did either.
Jon is trained by a master at arms and was raised by lord parents and was practicing from an age most people just learn to walk.
Against people like wildlings and random crows he's got a massive advantage. But against someone like the Hound or Jaime or young Robert?
Nah, no contest. Jon would get fucked by any of those men in their prime.
>>71979534
The Hound is bigger than Brienne
>>71980702
in the book he gets rekt by just some random peasant faggot.
>>71981759
Okay, if you're bigger and you're both approximately as healthy and well rested at the time.
>>71980663
Yeah but he was tired as shit from treking around. It was clear brienne got lucky in that fight just as oberyn got lucky in his mountain fight
>>71981573
>Thenn Magnar
Sure.
>Fookin Legend
Stabbed in the back.
>White walker
They're average swordsmen, overconfident and he was in a state of shock.
>fuckloads of wildlings
Basically the worst warriors in Westros that use numbers and brute force to win.
>crow traitors
jobbers
>wights
basically zombies and not much of a threat if you don't shit your pants or get overwhelmed
>countless Bolton men
Sure, mostly luck though seeing as it was more of a free for all.
>subdued a bow-wielding Ramsay
He beat a man with a bow at close range that kept aiming for his head.
>>71981573
The Fookin Legend beat Jon, and only didn't kill him because one of Craster's wives knifed him in the back
>>71981759
Is he? If so only by a bit.
where would Khal Drogo fit into the rankings? If we're talking prime's
>>71981827
Brienne is just over 6 feet, Hound's nearing 7 feet
>>71981834
In terms of sheer martial prowess he's a rape machine but most of the top tier Westerosi would probably be able to beat him on foot, armour makes a huge difference. As we saw with Jorah.
>>71981834
1st Place, as long as nobody thinks to scratch him with their nails he cant be beaten
>>71981834
He would get fucked by prime Jaime or the Mountain or the Hound, by virtue of armor and wielding swords that in all honesty are far superior to their curved ones.
>>71981739
maybe normal jon
but punished jon?
he's literally unstoppable
>>71981760
so does geralt
>>71980904
Prime Jaime is literally one of the best fighters to have ever lived.
>>71981823
Jon still put a sword through the back of his head.
>>71981816
I see no argument against the fact that Jon has the highest body count on the show by a mile.
>>71981953
Why isn't this ever really shown in the series?
>>71981908
I don't think you people realize how dangerous Jaime was before he lost that hand. He was one very tiny step away from being just as good as Dayne or Selmy in their prime. He crossed swords with the Smiling Knight and lived. He was Kingsguard by 17.
The man was unstoppable in his youth. Had things gone differently and had he gotten more time with Dayne and the others before they died he would've learned enough from them to surpass them.
Before he lost that hand there wasn't a man in any part of the world that he wouldn't have willingly fought and likely killed.
>>71981953
meh, current jon would still take him
people keep mentioning mistakes he made several years ago but he was still in his formative years then and he was still great, only now is he truly hitting his prime
>>71980929
>people like Karl
As if he's just some scrub. He was a fooken legend in King's Landing and he specialized in killing knights.
>>71981999
>Putting a sword through a guy who just kicked your ass but got distracted and turned away from you because of a fucking knife in his back
>Impressive in any way
>>71980627
>long, slow sword
Reee.
>>71982044
also they were fighting in a small shack where tanners daggers gave him the advantage
>>71982033
i realise, but prime jon would still slay him
>>71981514
He's probably 5'11
>>71982040
>Jon just entering his prime
This is what people forget. He's killed pretty much a hundred fucking people by now, from barbarians to zombies to magic ice men to trained soldiers, and in the show he's what, barely 20? Imagine him in ten years, after fighting the war with the Others.
>>71981904
>>71981880
The Viper isn't wearing any armor when he duels the Mountain. Just for perspective
>>71982002
Because that's the whole point of his character arc. He went from being the best sword fighter who was always keen to start a fight and just cut his way out of a situation to someone who had to use his brain once he lost his sword hand. We never see him fight outside of the one with Ned because they didn't have the budget to show the battles of the Golden tooth, battle of riverrun, and the battle of the whispering woods.
>>71982073
Fookin Legend is still dead while Jon is the White Wolf, King in the North.
>>71982116
The Viper wielded a spear, not and Arakh. Spears are literally designed to pierce plate, the curved swords from the eastern kingdoms definitely are not. One swung in a complete circle and around a guy flinging himself through the air literally didn't even dent Jorah's old ass armor. He just grabbed the sword with his fucking arm and then damn near took the guy's head off.
Jaime in full plate and around 20 would've taken Drogo no issue.
>>71982033
I just wish we would have seen Jaimie have an epic fight on the show. The closest was against Ned and that was stopped short. If we're going strictly by the show, we only know Jaimie was a great swordsman because of his reputation. We certainly never get a Red Viper/Mountain type fight with him.
>>71982183
spears were designed loooooonng before plate armour buddy
>>71982040
No he really wouldn't. Jon is good but he is nothing special.
>>71980627
>>71981054
>>71981463
Poll related.
http://www.strawpoll.me/10539271/r
>>71982153
Oh I understand and appreciate what they did with his arc. I just think that it would have made it that much more impacting if we had been shown just how great a fighter he was. And one could make the argument that it's almost implied that Jaimie's prowess was exaggerated.
>Thenn/Jon fight in Watchers on the Wall
The choreography in that fight is great. Jon's prowess aside, Kit Harrington seems to be really fucking good at swordplay.
>>71982183
But Drogo has about 50-75lbs on the Viper. He could probably knock over some of those armor wearing guys (such as Jorah for sure), as well as rip parts of the armor off of their body.
I typically agree he would lose in general, but I most certainly think he is underrated overall.
>>71982239
wrong
he is literally jesus and the man who will save westeros
you are just contrarian bookmad
>>71982230
And they were kept because they could penetrate plate. The spear Oby was using was fucking huge and had a head the size of a small sword on it.
Spears changed what they were made of and how they crafted through the ages. The spear Oby selected was chosen specifically because it was designed to let him poke at Gregor through his armor.
Arakhs are not designed to fight plate because no one in the east wears it.
>>71981948
show me the body
>>71979320
Give me ten good men and some climbing spikes. I'll impregnate the bitch
>>71982287
He was bad as fuck yeah. And against someone like Jorah yeah he'd probably be able to wear him down or fuck him up.
But the true great knights of the west would take him.
>>71982289
I read that they use the arakh backwards in the show. The curve is designed to get behind shields and stab people in the side, but they use the outward edge on the show.
>People saying Jon is a great swordsman
>literally 5'6"- 5'8"
Explain.
>>71980936
Ser Vardis wasn't "the Vale's best knight." He was the best person that happened to be standing in the room at that moment.
>>71982365
Kit is a manlet.
Jon Snow is average sized.
>>71982365
In those times 5'8 was pretty tall.
>>71982360
It doesn't have a thrusting point. It's for slashing. If you fought a guy wearing plate you needed something that could be thrust into him to penetrate the armor, like a straight sword or a warhammer with a big pick at the end.
Arakhs are better against lightly armored opponents because they're designed to just fuck you up if they cut the flesh.
>>71982365
Delete this
>>71982386
Sure he is
>ywn be a lowborn, parentless street urchin forced to pick up a blade and defend yourself every day and night as you grow up, until you're so fucking good with a sword that knights who are trained in combat their entire lives can't beat you
>>71982446
Comparing anyone to based NCW isn't fair, because NCW = all that is man.
>womyn warriors
>>71979320
rawr xD
>>71982501
In the show even sansa is taller than lil jon
>>71982544
Manlets have a lower centre of gravity, thus better balance.
Jon confirmed for greater swordsman than even Dayne himself.
>>71982435
A fixed mace is the best weapon against the mountain
just kneecap him, gas him out then bludgeon him to death.
still tough work but better odds than cutting him down
>>71979320
The power to strike down a man is insignificant next to the power of chemistry.
>>71981944
>implying Geralt was trying to kill them
>implying Geralt wasn't surrounded and outnumbered like 40 to 1
Please.
>>71982585
>This is true
It's not the size of the wolf, but the size of the fight in the wolf
KANG IN DA NORF!
>>71982666
im not dissing geralt, just saying sometimes these things are circumstantial and losing against someone worse than you doesn't necessarily mean you're shit
>>71982280
>Dayne is the best swordsman
>literally "DUAL WIELD!": the character
Besides dual wield was never a real form of fighting and you'd get your ass kicked outside that meme karate dojo
>>71982590
i want a tiny jun snuh
>>71982544
especially in that reunion scene
they thought it wouldn't be as noticeable if they had kit arch his back like he was lifting her
it didn't work
>>71982590
>Mfw, Jon is literally the reincarnation of Azor Ahai's burning sword
>Mfw, Brienne is Azor Ahai reborn and will use Jon to kill The Night King
>>71982529
...That's a dragon. He's impressive, to be sure, but that's like calling a bear the greatest soldier in the marine corps. It don't make no sense.
>>71982771
I'm a marine and I'd lose a fight with a bear. I'd probably lose even if you gave me a gun.
Bear confirmed for next Sgt Major.
>>71982757
no you fool. Bran uses his meme magic to put his mind into the sword, then it becomes a fire sword
>>71982705
No shit just like what happened between
Whirrun of Bligh and Gorst from First Law. Random shit happens in battle.
>>71982719
That was the point in the show. No one else dual-wields full sized swords, because no one else was good enough. Dayne was supposed to be other-worldly good.
>inb4 hurr Dawn is a greatsword
I know it was, and it works in the books where the descriptions of fight scenes are "he parried a blow, ducked left and swung his sword down in a wide arc, but the strike was turned away." On film, it would be hard as fuck to convey one guy killing the shit out of a group of people, with only a two handed sword.
Source: the professional fucking fight choreographers who work on Game of Thrones.
>>71982746
I would keep him in my pocket, awww
>>71981632
>>71981739
>>71981908
Didn't Qhorin let Jon win?
Also Eddard was never noted for his combat prowess. And keep in mind Jon has been beating up on untrained recruits, whereas the Halfhand relearned fighting with a left hand and still inspired fear from the wildlings. Also, Mance whoops Jon's ass in a duel.
>>71982183
>spears are literally designed to pierce plate
This is definitely going to be the most retarded thing I read on 4chan all day
>>71982847
>doing impossible shit with dual wield
>easier to convey than using a sword the normal way
>>71982183
>>71982289
>>71982435
Spears and swords weren't designed to pierce plate armour. That's the job for weapons such as poleaxes, maces, crossbows.
>>71982966
consider
>>71982111
>>71982040
jon was merely a boy during the halfhand incident, doest really pertain to his current level at all if you ask me
>>71982365
I didn't think manlets like me could make it in the world.
>>71982966
>>71982966
Reminder that, in the books, Qhorin is the second person Jon ever kills, and that fight is the first time he was dueling someone to the death.
I don't think Qhorin let him win, to be honest. The whole reason the wildlings let Jon live is because he kills Qhorin, a legendary ranger that every wildling fears. Jon kills him in front of the Lord of Bones and Harma Dogshead, two wildling leaders that is stated already know Qhorin.
If Qhorin was half assing it, I figure those two would've known something was up. Jon is shitting his pants the whole fight, because it's his first life or death duel, and Ghost ends up stepping in and chomping Qhorin's leg, which gives Jon the opening to kill him. It's open to interpretation.
>>71979320
Jon Snow is the most powerful warior, thanks to fanservice.
>>71980627
>The Mountain is a really bad fighter
This meme needs to stop already.
This isnt Star Trek, its basically hockey fighting with a fucking sword. Strenght > everything. Speed is so fucking overhyped it drives me nuts. Like swinging your sword marginally faster than a giant thats as well armoured he might as well be fighting for the God Emperor of Mankind.
>>71983034
You can't fight five people with a greatsword and last more than five seconds, fuckface. Book Dayne is just as impossible as show Dayne.
>>71981148
Prime Jaime, maybe.
>>71979320
>Briennefags
>>71979320
>>71979320
>no plot armor
>only plate armor
>most powerful
LOL
>>71979534
Not really.
Viper won against the Mountain but the author showed that arrogance and too much vindictiveness can lead to death unless you're Dany of course.
>>71983239
I don't know shit about swordfighting, but wouldn't it be good to keep everyone at a distance?
>>71980627
Oberyn wrecked the mountain until he went full retard, your list is shit
>>71981021
>>71981514
Wiki says that his book stats are 6"6. He was roughly the same size as the Hound. And iirc the Hammer he wielded in one hand, Ned had trouble lifting with two. So i guesstimate its about the size of your ordinary sledgehammer.. You'd have to be crazy strong to use a sledgehammer with one hand. Cartoon levels strong.
>>71983239
>parries 4 full grown men surrounding him at once
>one hand on each sword
I don't care how good he's supposed to be. This teenage fan fiction tier
>>71982199
His prison escape attempt would have been the best place to do it. In the book he fucks up 3 people while being in chains, but in the show he just crushes his cousins head with a rock. Low engergy escape attempt. Sad.
>>71983237
Why the hell does strength matter so much in a sword fight? So you can hit your enemy with extreme force? Why would you want to do that. You'll probably expose yourself and why would you want to use all your strength to cut him in half when you can just thrust at his neck and watch him die in seconds. Strength is an advantage in grappling techniques but other than that you don't have to be a strongman to be a good fighter.
An agile swordsman with average strength has the advantage over a strong swordsman with average agility.
>>71980627
Theon Greyjoy in the books is listed as one of the top fighters in westeros. Get your shit together m8
>>71983697
>Why the hell does strength matter so much in a sword fight?
So you can hit your enemy with extreme force.
>Why would you want to do that
So you can use all your strength to cut him in half
>You'll probably expose yourself
Doesnt matter if you're armoured like a tank.
> just thrust at his neck and watch him die in seconds
Good plan, faggot. Just like you kick a Bear in the nuts if you're ever attacked by one.
>>71983973
You can die from getting stabbed in the neck.
>>71983697
An agile swordsman with agile strength will swing their sword (quickly) twice and get winded.
Go back to your vidya games, nugget.
>>71983697
>Why the hell does strength matter so much in a sword fight?
Dear retard,
visit a HEMA center near you and fight someone twice your size.
Regards,
Someone who knows what the fuck he's talking about.
>>71979320
In the show, excluding Dayne and Jaqqen headgear who is clearly the best:
1) Oberin martell=experienced Arya
2)Brienne of tarth
3)The mountain
4)The hound
5)Barristan the bald
6)Jaime both hands=Ned
7)Jon Snow
8)Robb Stark=old Stannis
9)The guy who rescuse area from King's Landing
>>71980663
he was dying of an infection you pleb
>>71984057
>HEMA faggot
Oh Jesus... go back to /asp/ you aspie.
>>71984057
>visit a LARP center near you and fight a level 124 blood mage.
>>71984150
Uhh, no.
There is a literal world of difference between HEMA and a bunch of virgins swinging around foam weapons.
HEMA recreates the valor and ferocity of traditional European Martial Arts using methods closely resembling those used thousands of years ago by actual knights. Unlike LARPing, HEMA requires strength, cunning and, most importantly of all...honor.
>>71984059
Brienne should be below hound, possibly below jaime, Ned should be way lower
>>71984236
>Tips Fedora
>>71984324
>HURRDURR FEDORA JOKE
Very original.
I doubt you could even LIFT a claymore, you limpwristed cuck.
>>71984015
Probably why they were wearing gorget neck protection....
And again, its not easy to stab a guy in the neck if he's swining a 6 feet long sword at you all the time.
>>71982365
Smaller target :^)
>>71984287
Ugh...
Before you book autists go at me you should know that I'm talking about the show (though the show is a direct reflection of what GRMM wants anyway so deal with it kek).
Either way:
Point number 1) :
Brienne should definitely NOT be below the hound but above him, since she beat him both in the sword fight and in the fist/kick fight fair and square, the hound was beaten completley and he admits it too multiple times.
Point number two): Ned shouldn't be lower since we see him holding his own against Jaime for some minutes with no one being in clear advantage, we can assume that at top form he could've beaten Jaime, but even his old self could've beaten him with some luck, as we've seen on the show.
>>71984352
They're not heavy, Even a Child could pic them up
>>71983973
Mods, /v/ is leaking again
![Scottish_claymore_replica_(Albion_Chieftain)2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Jm3SSfj.jpg "Scottish_claymore_replica_(Albion_Chieftain)2[1].jpg")
>>71984416
Uhh, no.
THIS is an actual claymore. Not some shit from your precious "Call of Dookie" games.
Try again. xD
>>71984045
You assume a sword wights quite a lot while in reality they're quite light. Also a trained swordsman in not going to swing his sword around so much and with such force that it will get him winded.
>>71984400
I'm a showfag, fag. Brienne barely beats hound while he's sick as fuck, and just because ned wasn't immediately wrecked doesn't mean he's better, it was pretty clear he was outmatched and Jaime was just playing with him, watch their body language during the fight.
>>71984454
It's usually exchange of blows -> riposte -> one of them is dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln94E9AGYTc
The more experienced fighter usually walks away as a winner because he can read what is coming next.
>>71984452
Actually, this is a claymore https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18_Claymore_mine
>>71984454
>while in reality they're quite light
Heaviness has nothing to do with it. While it may not weigh more than five pounds, or so (for a standard longsword), swinging it still takes a great deal of effort and it gets exhausting.
>a trained swordsman in not going to swing his sword
Oh god, stop talking. You sound like such a virgin.
>>71984057
I am not arguing about the size of a person. Of course if you are taller you have an advantage.
But that doesn't have to do anything with strength (except grappling). Being taller means longer limbs and therefore longer reach.
>>71984352
Yes yes, you are a valiant knight.
>>71984526
oooh boy, were in the phase where we twist other people's words now?
>>71984475
>Brienne barely beats hound while he's sick as fuck
What? Have you seen the fight?
The hound uses every sort of under handed tricks while Brienne plays it fair, at least during the sword fight, and she didn't "barely" win, she won the sword fight easily against the hound who wasn't fighting fair and she won the fist fight with relative ease.
The wound shit is never explored or mentioned in the show so it doesn't literally count.
> it was pretty clear he was outmatched and Jaime was just playing with him
Hum, it really wasn't, it's clear that he's making a lot of effort fighting him off during the duel, just look at his face.
>>71984057
>visit a HEMA center near you and fight someone twice your size.
Same would happen when in boxing a head shorter gets under other guys reach and starts wrecking his sides.
>>71981514
A large man you say?
>>71980663
>regular sword vs valyrian steel sword
>tired
>hungry
>already had an infection from Rorge and Biter fight
>still only beat him because he fell of a cliff
Nice fighter you got there
>>71984526
You assume that people where swinging their swords around like retards when fighting. Which is wrong. You are using a sword not a baseball bat.
Go and read any medieval manual about fencing and you'll see no one suggest to swing your sword constantly.
does any one know where to get good banners?
Not the shitty nylon ones but a proper one like In the shows, I can't believe that this show has so much interest into it but you can't find any armor or good banners for sale.
I want a good quality Lannister and Baratheon banners.
Also getting this helmet and Tywin Lannisterstyle armor made full metal, what you think /tv/?
it's handmade by drawbridgearmoury's
>>71984579
Brienne gets dirty right back, and the wound is mentioned in multiple episodes leading up to the fight episode, it's even mentioned that it's festering.
Guess what, when you have a fucked up open wound on your shoulder it makes you feel under the weather.
>>71984613
This. Pretty much same as in kendo, you wait for the opponent to open the play and act accordingly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIKMPIFJkzk
>>71984527
Jesus christ you weakfags are so annoying.
Name one single disadvantage with being the strongest person in a swordfight?
Name a single advantage to being the weakest person in a swordfight?
Do both of these without assuming the weak asshole is Drizzt Do'Urden and the strongman isnt a fucking retard.
Thanks.
>>71984579
>while Brienne plays it fair
>biting off an ear
>cock punch
>>71984637
>what you think /tv/?
I think you need to find a girlfriend.
>>71984653
The strong swordsman will look upon his weaker upon with disdain and arrogance and likely make a mistake.
>>71984678
kek
>>71984579
>Hum, it really wasn't, it's clear that he's making a lot of effort fighting him off during the duel, just look at his face.
Yeah, he's smiling throughout and only loses his grin when they clinch and then he gets a more "its on" look.. Better yet, look at the dissapointment on his face when his retarded looking guard stabs Ned through the thigh.
>>71984400
>(though the show is a direct reflection of what GRMM wants anyway so deal with it kek)
Exept GRMM said that Jaime is one of the greatest swordsmen in the history of Westeros and Ned wasn't a great warrior.
Even Brienne said that "no knight in the Seven Kingdoms could have stood against him at his full strength."
But yeah, in the show, D&D said that Ned = Jaime.
>>71984654
I said during the sword fight
>>71984641
You are retarded if you think an itty bitty wound can stop a fucking giant with massive armor
>>71984654
>Rhaegar fought valiantly.
>Rhaegar fought nobly.
>Rhaegar died.
>>71984579
Face is part of body language, at no point does Jaime look worried or even challenged, meanwhile ned has this fuck it's Arthur dane all over again look on his face. Jaime is just playing with him, if you want to see Jaime worried watch the dorne episode where the horse man is fucking his shit up
>>71984716
>Do both of these without assuming the weak asshole is Drizzt Do'Urden and the strongman isnt a fucking retard.
You had one fucking job......
>>71979320
Daario & Bronn are equally capable.
>>71984740
>I said during the sword fight
Exactly where in the swordfight is Sandor playing dirty?!
>>71982966
I don't know about Ned, the guy survived a fight against the three most skilled Kingsguard of his time, and in the books in the fight with the lannisters he kills like 6-7 and wounds several more before his horse slips in the mud and crushes his leg
>>71984836
He puts his hand on the FUCKING sword, are you mentally dead?
For fuck s sake.
>>71984637
>>71984637
>commissions a craftsman to make intricate metal armor.
>asks where he can BUY a cloth banner.
So, obviously, you know that there are people who can make things to your specifications in exchange for money. Are you just an idiot?
>>71980972
>6'3
>200 pounds
I mean that's like 90th percentile for most female populations but 6'3 200lbs isn't exactly that big for a healthy adult male
>>71984653
Where the fuck did I say being strong is a disadvantage or being weak somehow helps you. Of course if you're weak you're going to get your ass kicked.
What I'm saying is that people should stop thinking that being super strong somehow makes you a better sword fencer. In sword fighting agility is more important than strength. But of course you need to have some level of physical fitness in order to be good.
>>71984740
>it's an anon has never been seriously hurt post
If you have a wound bad enough it fucks up your whole body.
>>71984768
Making a mistake does not make someone a retard. Read the Book of Five Rings sometime. You're a cuck if you think that a skilled swordsman wouldn't look upon a stronger opponent and exploit a psychological advantage.
>>71984862
That's not fighting dirty, that is a legit thing to do.
>>71984862
He's just pulling a reverse Mordhau, nothing illegal about that
>>71984881
You are retarded, for a female is like the 99th percentile, for a USA male like the 90th percentile but still
>>71984867
No, I know where to get custom banners from I was wondering if anyone on /tv/ knows of anyone before make a custom one.
Maybe I should of mentioned that before.
>>71984740
>itty bitty wound can stop a fucking giant with massive armor
It can be the the size of your thumb, if it gets infected you're proper fucked
>>71984911
>reverse Mordhau
also known as half-swording
>>71984889
>In sword fighting agility is more important than strength.
That's only if you've bought the "weapon finesse" feat. Otherwise, the stat melee combat utilizes is strength.
>>71984938
It didn't, Arya cured it you gigantic retard.
>>71984740
>You are retarded if you think an itty bitty wound can stop a fucking giant with massive armor
when you temp raises over 104 and you got the fucking shakes, try to do something physical as fight to the fucking dead you shitlord
>>71984930
>Maybe I should of
>should of
>of
Maybe you should of died in the womb.
>>71984972
No she didn't, she tried but Sandor wouldn't let her cauterize it, so it got infected.
Did you really tell me to watch the show and then come up with this shit?
>>71984972
No she didn't you mong, he was too afraid of fire for her to cauterize it, so she just sewed it up
>>71984975
You see
>>71984972
>>71984975
You'd be surprised at how resilient the human body can be when the stakes are that high.
>>71980972
Naturally women are waaaay weaker than men. Sure in universe 6'3 brienne is hella strong ajd wears armor but real life 6'3 gwendeline gets out of bresth quick in between shots
Your average 6'4 woman will have the same pound for pound strength as your average 5'2 man. Think about that a top .1% woman is only stronger than 2% of men
Women are laughably weak
>>71985017
>>71985010
Sew it up = no festerizing
You should go back to middle school again
![computer-nerd-300x227[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3AQZ1vM.jpg "computer-nerd-300x227[1].jpg")
>>71985034
>Women are laughably weak
>>71984991
You're a very salty person.
>>71985054
Based retard.
So why do you think they cauterize wounds; for fun?
>>71979320
Reminder: the only reason she beat The Hound was his infected wound.
>>71985054
Yeah, nobody who's gotten stitches has ever had to take antibiotics after the fact.
Good god...
>>71985054
Well you've gone off the deep end now anon, enjoy having your misconceptions
>>71985089
To be 100% sure, but sewing usually does the trick and nothing in the show suggests it didn't.
>>71985032
Adrenalin burst doesn't last very long. I got my ankle broken while hiking I think I got halfway through the trail back to the car with a branch acting as a crutch before I collapsed and had to wait for help. And I'm sort of a person who doesn't complain very easily
>>71985133
>Sewing infected flesh into a pocket that can get infected more and fester usually does the trick
Yeah when you want to kill someone really slow and painfully
>>71985075
Exactly. A 5'8 150lbs nerd is stronger than 5'7 130lbs ronda rousey. Now. I'm not saying the nerd would best ronda just that he is pound for pound stronger and can lift more and has better muscle mass. Ronda eould wreck him with technique not through might
>>71985133
I'd be willing to grant you that if we were talking about modern day society, where people (aside from yourself) regularly bathe and live in reasonably clean environments.
But it's STILL not true. ESPECIALLY from a fucking bite. You know how dirty mouths are?
Well, I find her easier to believe than the scrawny, manicured chicks from Vikings.
>>71984862
Fucking retard confirmation at a 100%
>>71984889
>being strong prevents you from being a good technical fighting just like having a big dick makes you terrible in bed.
Yeah, big guys dont know how to fight, and only guys with tiny dicks know how to move in bed to satisfy a woman.
>>71984905
>being strong means you have a psychological disadvantage against weaker men which negates the real physical advantage you have
Why dont you just fucking prove it by beating up someone twice your sice, faggot.
>>71985126
>>71985094
>>71985107
>>71985089
O=h for fuck sake retards
>B-but muh hound cannot be beaten xDD
Yet he was, Brienne obliterated him, go cry or something but for fuck's sake STOP this bullshit about
>muh wound xD
The wound was never a problem in the show it was mentioned in a scene and was most likely cured, he never complained about it during or after the fight.
Seriously fuck off and grow up.
>>71985173
ya ok
>>71985194
This
fuck that show
>>71981304
>>71984352
Claymores weigh about a kilo
>>71985217
>he never complained about it during or after the fight
What is it like having to have your hand held through narrative?
>>71983324
OP is obviously Jaime
>>71985217
>people disagree with me about something
>I better get mad and make shit up
You could just admit you were wrong
>>71984452
The mine is probably heavier than that
8/10
>xD
-6 points for poor quality trolling
2/10 overall score
>>71985217
>wound was never a problem
Yet Arya looks troubled when he tells her not to cauterize him and just sew it up
>he never complains
Never saw Olenna putting the poison in Joffrey's wine, means she didn't kill him
>>71981797
His head didn't look that lucky afterwards
>>71985217
I don't understand why Theon didn't just sprint away from Winterfell.
It's not like he complained about his missing toes during the chase scenes.
>>71985288
Doesn't Jaime say Loras is his equal and Brienne beat Loras?
>>71985299
Olenna fucking admitted it you absolute retard.
The hound never mentioned it nor we see the infected wound during the fight having an effect, we have no close ups that could hint at it, seriously you're all so pathetics, your precious hound was proven to be shit at fighting when someone his own size who knew his shit better than him OBLITERATED him.
is she ever going to have sex on the show? I want to see her take it from behind
>>71982002
Cause D&D are fucking hacks. Even during season 1 when the show was good, they gave into their hack sensibilities changing Jamie from one of the greatest swordsman ever, to stereotypical rich bad guy who is really a pussy. That's why they added those dumb lines where Ned talks about how his armor has never been scratched and how he doesn't "play with swords" on tournaments. And that dumb scene where Ned's actually holding up against Jamie till he gets stabbed in the leg.
>>71985421
Yeah, but...how do we know she wasn't lying?
>>71985416
With a trick, during a tourney.
Also Jaime with two hands would make short work of anyone, even the fight with Brienne his hands were sore and tied together
>>71984921
Yeah I may have underestimated the female percentiles and even the height percentiles, but your average warrior is going to be physically active and if he's over 6ft (average height 5'11) he's basically guaranteed to be at least 200lbs assuming he's not 5% bf. 6ft is only 1 SD above norm assuming you live in a real country
Oberyn is so criminally underrated because he's a homo. He fucking humiliated Gregor and only lost because he was trying to illicit a confession. Bronn and Hound tied for second. Brienne and Mountain close behind.
>>71985460
Why the fuck would he lie about it like twice?
She admitted it to fucking LF
