So what happened to the Klingons?
>A bigger budget?
>Executive meddling?
We do not discuss it with outsiders.
>>71960542
We do not speak of it.
They finally acknowledged their repressed homosexuality and turned all the violent and aggressive energy into L.O.V.E.
>>71960542
How did the drunk failure of an Irish transporter jockey fucked up so bad that he never became an officer when every Tom and Harry is an ensign or lieutenant?
>>71960796
He was an enlisted man. Meaning he never went to the academy so he couldn't become an officer. However he was a highly decorated war hero who participated in like over 200 battles.
>>71960796
He made a clone of Riker that later went on to become a terrorist and steal the Defiant?
>>71960542
The Klingon augment virus (which dissolved their cranial ridges) was a modified form of Levodian flu that threatened to wipe out the Klingon race in the mid-22nd century. It was inadvertently created by Klingon researchers who were attempting to bio-engineer enhanced warriors using DNA from genetically-modified Human embryos left over from Earth's Eugenics Wars.
>>71960889
That sounds like a strangely outdated system for Starfleet. The guy is clearly more capable than 90% of their career officers, why not put him in charge already?
>>71961136
They had a two-part episode to explain the ridges.
They came up with the most boring Berman & Braga explanation ever (even if it was made under Coto).
Fuck Enterprise.
>>71961269
cause starfleet is based off our modern navy. So enlisted men can't be officers.
Koloth even say "Lingonese" when referring the language.
What gives? Are Klingons even Klingons?
>>71960542
They are circling the black clouds around Uranus.
>>71961323
Yeah 'cause modern navies are such a model of meritocracy and totally representative of Roddenberry's vision of a unified mankind.
>>71961269
>why not put him in charge already?
He was chief of operations for a starbase, and then a professor at starfleet academy. And a Senior chief petty officer is a pretty respected position, its about as high as you can get without having a commission.
I imagine in the star trek universe he started as a redshirt, and once you survive 10 away missions you get promoted until you become a senior petty officer and represent a statistical impossible lucky streak that starfleet keeps around like rabbits feet.
>>71961136
DO
NOT
SPEAK
OF
IT
>>71961136
>the virus takes Klingons and turns them half-human
Stupid, but okay, whatever.
>the virus also takes humans and turns them half-Klingon
DEFEND THIS
>>71962043
Wasn't that just because archer was a guinea pig for the serum or something?
>>71960542
Nothing. Whatever gave you the impression there was a difference between Klingons before and after The Motion Picture?
>>71962109
I, for one, have no idea what he's talking about.
>>71961789
I still think that it's pretty hypocritical of Starfleet to not give enlisted men an equal chance to progress in ranks as career officers.
>>71961269
You try running a military (or military-esque organization) without senior NCOs, then.
Rodenberry says there is no difference, they just didn't have the money to make convincing prosthethics in 1967.
>>71962795
It might have been more reasonable to not point it out at all in that episode.
>>71962425
Because to go through starfleet academy you have to be the best of the best, and they're trained to handle everything from spatial anomalies to mediating intergalactic blood feuds. And the idea is that they sign up for a lifetime career.
An officer is someone commissioned by a state or governmental body to act on their behalf, so they need to make sure they put their best foot forward. Meanwhile you need NCO's to do the menial tasks that still need to be done, that your officer pool is overqualified for.
>>71963073
DS9 is a giant "fuck you" to Roddenberry though.that's why it's the best one
>>71963627
Exactly.
>>71960889
theres no rule that says once you become enlisted you cant be an officer, not in the real navy and not in starfleet. i think theres one episode when one of the captains ask and enlisted man why he doesnt go the officer route but i cant recall it.
anyway obrien was an officer in the early episodes but resigned his commission so he wouldnt have to spend his time with those idiots on the bridge and just get drunk all day in the transporter room.
>>71965640
in the early days he was just supposed to be an extra so they were fast and loose with his rank
>>71960542
I always assumed that in the early days of their space travel they surgically made themselves look more humanoid because they wanted to appear more like an advanced race. Like the way jappers and chinks would dress in western clothes full on in the 19th century.
It's perfectly believable that subsequent generations might think this shameful, and go back to their traditional appearance, never speaking of it again.
>>71963627
Gene Roddenberry was a genius.
>>71967515
Gene Coon was a genius. Dorothy Fontana was a genius. Gene Roddenberry was just along for the ride.
>>71967538
Gene RODDENBERRY was a genius. Big picture guys are the ones who take the blame and the kudos. Writers are worthless little people. Coon and Fontana are literal whos, meanwhile Rod Roddenberry Jr. is large and in charge of Trek 2017 with his flunky Fuller well-heeled at his side.
>>71967623
http://www.nerdunion.us/2015/08/04/howgeneroddenberrytriedtokillstartrek/
