>long range battlefield communication tower
>siege equipment mounted in trolls
>turning trolls into highly mobile and flexible battering rams
>utilizing concentrated fire on fortifications
>equipped all units with heavy plate armor
>used massive worms to burrow in the earth and utilized stealth and the element of surprise
>2 pronged assault, one regiment holding off both of their strongest militaries while one contingent captured their only means of fortification and retreat
>goblin Kings cave shows advanced interconnected network of communication
>the one orc covered in metal plates shows advanced metallurgical techniques by augmenting his body and skull injury with armor plating
>the pale orc having atleast two prosthetics for his arm
>saurumans orc army showing advanced pit mining and extracting techniques, employing cranes and mother fucking dams
Every other race is filthy fucking Luddites. In every film the orcs are shown as technologically advanced and industrious and yet they still lose and the entire film glosses over how they're basically the industrial revolution of their setting.
>>71805712
What happened to the orcs after Saruman "died"?
>>71805814
Their labour union collapsed and they found employment elsewhere
>>71805712
Orcs are corrupted elves, as such they represent the polar opposite. Elves live in harmony with nature, whereas orcs do what you described.
>>71805712
>Every other race is filthy fucking Luddites
That's the fucking point.
In Tolkien's world technology is bad. That's why the villains are heavily industrialized and why the heroes are from some bumfuck farms in the middle of nowhere.
>>71805926
Why would an elf agree to become an orc, one elf can take on 20 orcs but not the other way.
>Not knowing orcs were Tolcuck's commentary on the loss of the simple ways of country life in blighty
Come on.
>>71805972
>technology is bad.
>>71805814
They scattered I imagine, in the same way after Sauran was defeated the first time, they lost central organisation and tribalised
>>71805995
Are you the OP?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orc_(Middle-earth)#The_origin_of_Orcs
Go to the origin of orcs section.
>>71805814
Isengard was flooded and DUBSequently taken over by Ents so they were pretty much genocided
>taller, heavier, more muscular, bred for warfare
>getting cut down by midgets in droves
>despite having heavy plate they're instantly dying to limp wristed elven twirls
>cut down by simple fishermen with pitchforks and rakes
What movies shown gritty orc combat?
>>71806122
>Mfw it actually worked
>>71806122
Looks like gets back on the men, you boys.
Orcs, Urak-hai, goblins, etc are representative of the evils of industrialization.
Dwarves have industry but they use it for house hold goods, jewelry, etc.
Elves created things with highly skilled artisans like pre industrial society.
Humans were between the Elves and Dwarves.
hobbits had no industry. representing the idealistic British country side.
>>71806286
>Tolkien was in love with the Muslim way of life and idealized that in the hobbits
Orcs are basically niggers. Europeans were able to take over all of Africa with few soldiers from the feral blacks.
>>71806122
impressive
>>71806350
implying the Easterlings aren't the Ottomans.
The Shire is pretty much Wales.
>>71806122
>>71806122
Yes. Perfect.
Who would win Saruman's Army at Helm's Deep or Sauron's Army at Minastirith?
>>71806184
> I am no singles
what did she mean by this?
>>71806870
>10000 pikeman and crossbowman
>100000 pikeman, archers, siege weapons, cavalry, trolls and nazgul
Well gee I dunno.
>>71806870
Both armies are mostly heavy infantry and pikes. Then some archers.
Sauron had seige weapons, while Saruman only had ladders, battering ram, and that gun powder bomb.
>>71806921
Saruman had Uruk-hai, the ones in Saurons army were just shitty little Mordor orcs which are much weaker. But ya, even still Sauron's army would win just from the amount.
>>71807250
Sauron had Uruks as well.
>>71807281
Not at the pelennor fields battle. Or were they there in the book? I can't remember but I don't think so
>>71805712
It's because they're Soviets
wow...pure kino...
>>71806122
It's a lesson on how natural order can't be kept in check forever.
>>71808358
Every shot looks like an Xbox 360 game.
>>71808358
To be fair that movie had some pretty great parts. It was just overloaded with shit.
>>71805814
They started mooching off Gondor and founded Orc Lives Matter.
>>71806037
>I'm a techcuck Jewslave.
Why didnt they use the worms later when Sauron came back? They seem like a huge advantage to carve paths everywhere
>>71805972
>>71806037
>Well, the first War of the Machines seems to be drawing to its final inconclusive chapter — leaving, alas, everyone the poorer, many bereaved or maimed and millions dead, and only one thing triumphant: the Machines. As the servants of the Machine are becoming a privileged class, the Machines are going to be enormously more powerful. What's their next move?
Letter to his son, Christopher (30 January 1945); published in The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien (1981), Letter 96
>>71806286
>Dwarves have industry but they use it for house hold goods, jewelry, etc.
they also pay a price when they delve too greedily and too deep
>mfw Tolkien actually based Dwarves from the Hobbit on Jews displaced from their homeland
>>71808358
Was the opening laketown scene shot in 120fps or whatever?
It looked really off in the theater
>>71805712
why is he so white? is he an albino orc? serious question
