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This thread has one rule.
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>>71802623
>babydoll will never beat you to within one inch of your life
I don't know why I wake up every day bros
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>>71802623
Movie was total shit.
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>>71802688
Spotted the pleb. Its wonderful how this movie let's you know who's fucking retarded, and who is intelligent
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>>71802623
But then how can we warn everybody that it so fucking utterly useless it isn't even fappable to despite 5(!?) hot birds in fetish outfits?
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>>71802750
Why would you go on the internet and just lie like that
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>>71802729
>anything by Zack Snyder
>intelligent
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>>71802873
>Tarrantino's movies are so much more intelligent
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>>71802963
>implying I think Tarantino's movies are intelligent
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>>71802963
>that denial
>that strawman
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>>71803028
>imblying
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>>71802963
They are fun
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Sucker Punch (Extended Cut) was a treatise on the objectification of women as seen through the eyes of various nerd subcultures. The prism by which the movie is shown self reflects to the viewer their own ugliness.

It's a hypnotizing take on psychological trauma. It cleverly turns it into an esoteric, theatrical, fantasy extravaganza. Its own nakedness makes people feel shameful and uncomfortable.

It's a movie that literally hates its own audience and spits on them.

>"“I wanted to rub the human race in its own vomit, and force it to look in the mirror.”" - J.G. Ballard

If that isn't true kino, I don't fucking know what is.

>https://thebottomline.as.ucsb.edu/2011/04/%E2%80%98sucker-punch%E2%80%99-a-feminist-perspective

>http://vigilantcitizen.com/moviesandtv/sucker-punch-or-how-to-make-monarch-mind-control-sexy-7-2/

>https://practicaltheorist.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/is-zack-snyders-sucker-punch-a-radical-feminist-deconstruction-of-action-movies/

>You are wrong about Sucker Punch by The Escapist
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gXir4Pu0f0
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>>71803133
Thanks for the reads.
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>>71802623
Is this worth watching?
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Emily Browning was literally perfect in this flick
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>>71804764
no. I dont see why people are sucking Snyder's cock now.
I guess we have to keep our hipster cred! :D
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>>71802623

>Jena Malone is hot

Why does this meme exist?
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>>71802623
cool film
Zack's a cool guy
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>electric guitar intensifies
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>>71802963
Tarantino movies are intelligent in the way that they're self-aware and fun. They don't try to be """deep""" like Snyder movies.
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>>71804764
the real sucker punch is that it isn't
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>>71805705

She is hot, not so much in looks but the sexual energy she gives off, it's like Jennifer Coolidge.
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>>71803133
>It's a hypnotizing take on psychological trauma.
Seems like the plot of a girl going to a psych ward is an excuse to have random action scenes.

> Its own nakedness makes people feel shameful and uncomfortable.
No it just makes me confused about the plot, because there is none.

>It's a movie that literally hates its own audience and spits on them.
How the fuck can they make that statement? It even fails to metaphorically portray that. As far as I can tell there's no message to extract from this clusterfuck of girls fighting various things.
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>>71803037
Muh strawman, muh not an argument
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>>71803133
I miss the Big Picture. Moviebob really went to shit. I suppose it was inevitable though.
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Cornish>Malone>Chung>Browning>Hudgens>Gugino

All are top tier though.
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shit movie. i skipped to the end after 20 minutes and understood everything.
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>>71807236
>when the camera pans around and you see the parademons in the sky

pure kino
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>>71807236
is that the new Batman?
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>>71803133
>posting this trash pasta unironically
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>>71805705
I think she's one of the hottest actresses out there.

And I don't usually like skinny flat girls, yet there's just something about her.

I think it might be something to do with how she holds herself.

I also wouldn't be surprised if it turned out she was a femanon.
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>>71807475
>As far as I can tell there's no message to extract from this clusterfuck of girls fighting various things.
You can't because there isn't one. It's just a black hole of a plot that wouldn't be suitable for a damn "game", wallowing in a 12 year old's understanding of the elements it rips off that somehow ended up surrounded by mouthbreathers who liked it because muh waifu or some other lame excuse and are too embarrassed to admit it and thus fall into the teenager death trap of making baseless assumptions that based on vague interpretations of a few of the many vacuous, style-and-no-substance camera angles, outfits, throwaway lines or mise en scénes because of, you guessed it, the complete lack of an intelligible plot and the manifold idiotic characters that populate it.

It is absolute tripe with no value whatsoever, not even in the ironic shitposting category. Anyone defending it needs lobotomizing.
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>>71807236
wow, he kills like seven people in this one scene by shooting them in the face. And that's not counting all the people off screen he shoots at.
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>>71802623
There will never be a masterpiece like this
ever be made again.
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>>71808224
it's a knightmarish vision of a potential future, induced by flash time traveling.
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>>71807314
Self-aware is a bad thing more often than not. Hateful 8 was pretty much Tarantino masturbating in front of the camera and talking about how awesome he thinks he is for a million hours.
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>>71808606
I find it hard to believe that a film that would have Amy Adams go to the cripple's apartment and literally say "He just bought groceries... he didn't know he was going to die!" when it was already painfully obvious that Lex gave him the rigged wheelchair and was absent during the explosion, but then not give a single hint about the time travelling.

It's bad writing.
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>>71808117
it's about escaping into fantasy worlds to deal with trauma you fucking retard.
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>>71803133

I want to fuck Babydoll
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>>71808691
not at all, it's supposed to be opaque because bruce doesn't exactly understand the vision either.

but if you know anything about DC you already know what's up.
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>>71802963
>liking Snyder
>assuming that if someone doesn't like Snyder, he likes Tarantino
Do you have any taste at all?
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>>71808663
All his movies after Reservoir Dogs, really. And even in rd the autism is evident (If not for buscemi's last minute entrance, Tarantula would' ve played Mr. Pink)
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>>71808224
he was knocking them out by shooting them in their helmets
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>>71808718
Yes, dealing with the trauma of being incarcerated in a loony bin by pretending to be a stripper and dealing with that trauma by being an action videogame character makes sooooooo much sense.

Gtfo of /tv/ Snyder, you're worse than the blackedposters.
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>>71802623
The first time I watched it, I was high and kinda liked it
I ended up falling asleep for the last 15-20 minutes
Second time I thought it was terrible and skipped to the actions scenes
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>>71808224
This was a dream(possible clairvoyance) where earth went to shit so it makes sense he'd have reached the desperation of killing to 100% eliminate every enemy and save as many allies as possible.
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>>71807775
Nope,that's a dream sequence.
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tfw you will never impregnate Jena Malone.
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>>71803133
>tumblrposting unironically
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>>71802963
Tarantino movies are at least well made
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>>71808718
I don't care what it is or is not about, it was unwatchable garbage regardless.
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>>71810912
That forehead game tho.
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>>71810912
Oh noes, it's the mid-forehead part brigade. Americans are so fucking tacky. You're an actress for crying out loud, how could you not know how to do your hair? At least tell "duuuuuuuuuuude" that he looks like a tard if you won't take a look in the mirror.
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>>71803133

Stupid SJW interprretation

Look this one http://www.the-fanboy-perspective.com/a-retrospect-of-sucker-punch.html for something much more accurate
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>>71811475
>http://www.the-fanboy-perspective.com/a-retrospect-of-sucker-punch.html for something much more accurate
bravo

this was the most autistic thing I've seen all day
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>>71811602
Autists usually have some grasp of specifics. That link has nothing other than 1/3 making hollow promises and 2/3 flinging shit at walls and seeing what sticks in order to mold a coherent argument because someone couldn't accept a stupid movie being stupid.

If anything, what would make this movie remarkable and Snyder a bona-fide genius is if its intent was the ability to make neckbeards try their damnedest to make excuses for it, despite the fact that they don't even get to see tits.
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>>71802623
That was one of the best popcornkino in my life. I've just switched my mind off and enjoyed cool adrenaline boobs-driven action. I have no idea why did they decide to cut out babydoll losing her virginity scene and keep that weird escape on a bus with a cringey phrase in the end.
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>>71803133
>Feminists are too dumb to realize that SP is pro-women
Bravo Snyder
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>>71811602
>>71812304

I triggered some tumblrina lmao

This is clearly stated in the film not spoon fed but it was hard to pass by

But no "muh oppresive nerd" "muh male gaze" lmao
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>>71802729
I know, it's great.

As soon as someone says it isn't garbage I immediately know they're a total retard.
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>>71803133
Jesus Christ why do people give Snyder this much bloody credit.

Watch this interview. WATCH IT. It's only 6 minutes long.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQaCSml7NW4

He doesn't have an intelligent thought in his tiny brain.
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>>71812979
Maybe he's just poor at expressing his thoughts.
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>>71812979
So based
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>>71813052
If you can explain to me the difference between "having smart thoughts but not able to speak them out loud" vs "having stupid thoughts," then please do go ahead, I will monitor this thread closely.
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>>71812304
It's kind of genius when you think of it. By forcing men and women to indulge in this extreme objectification disguised as female empowerment it reveals how both sides are terrible for women: Female empowerment in film encourages women to create their fantasy worlds where they have agency when they're being oppressed and nerds feel guilty and self-conscious for indulging in these sexual fantasies.

Once again Snyder is one step ahead of the general public and critics.
As one article points out, this movie wouldn't even be discussed in this light if it weren't for the slutty outfits that the protagonists wear.

Ultimately, the film shows how men and women alike can fall victims to a society where their identity is forced and argues that they don't get to choose with true agency.
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>>71802729
>Its wonderful how this movie let's you know who's fucking retarded, and who is intelligent
The guy in the director's chair is the retard.
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>>71813052
>Maybe he's just poor at expressing his thoughts.
After seeing BvS, yes I think that's the case.
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>>71812979
>muh interviews
I judge a man by his work. Snyder works making movies, not interviews.
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>>71813182
[audible kek]
Good job, anon.
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>>71813095
it's the difference between being an author and being a painter
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>>71807236
this was my favorite part of the entire kino

the sound here surpassed kubrick, though i dont know what it meant
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>>71805705
>>71807833
incredibly sexy. she has a weird energy about her, i can't explain it
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>>71813473
looks like my ex

hnnnnngh
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>>71812979
>i was 14 and like i used to read these y'know magazines with sex and dying and y'know Heavy Metal? [nervous laughter] like SHOW ME THE GOOD STUFF [fidgeting] but then of course you go to "art school" and like, it's intersting, your aesthetic y'know changes and that's why I make PG-13 live action cartoons but with no sex. Or dying. Also, music videos.
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>>71807456
is she trying to be chloe sevigny?
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>>71813182
but why did he make it a bad movie, too?
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>>71814322

I'd hope she wouldn't do an unsimulated blowjob on camera..
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>>71814617
whaaa?
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>>71814691

Brown Bunny, Chloe Sevigny did a for real blowjob on vincent Gallo in that.
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>>71813639
That's fine if you let his work speak for itself.

When people start projecting all this complex psychobabble onto his stuff, it makes sense to go to the source and ask, 'is that the level he's operating on?'

It's clearly not. Unless he's going for some insane Kauffman-equse long con, he's obviously all about surface.

>>71813052

Maybe so, but so what? Nicolas Winding Refn is absolute shit at expressing himself, but when he tries to talk about his work you get the idea that he at least ASPIRES to make intelligent movies. Whether he succeeds or not is up for debate but he's clearly trying.

Snyder doesn't even try. Which is fine - I don't care if he makes surface level fluff. My problem is with the people who insist it's super deep for no good reason, like this idiot / troll / whatever-he-is: >>71813182
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>>71815586
One person can paint a cock because that person just thinks its funny to have a picture of a cock but the existence of that painting can be the subject of analysis.
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>>71814923
JUST
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>>71813182
you're a master of your craft
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>>71802623
has anyone ever made a better pleb filter than this kino?
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>>71815727
Absolutely. But an analysis becomes absurd when it attributes qualities to the creator that CLEARLY AREN'T THERE.
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>>71802623
http://kotaku.com/5785590/sucker-punch-goes-beyond-awful-to-become-commentary-on-the-death-of-moviemaking
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>>71802623
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A90Br0TWV1U
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>>71816737
I wouldn't trust anything those demagogues say since they lied about Man of Steel
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>>71802623
I really liked that movie but every person I met said it was aweful.
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>>71817189

>hairy arms

GODDAMMMIT YETIANON WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO ME
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>>71817216
welcome to the machine
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>>71816678
>kotaku
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>>71802623
So was this supposed to be a parody of action movies and overuse of cgi?
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>>71815586
Art is constituted in its reception, not its creation.
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>>71814437
Subjective, that's your opinion.
Trash opinion too.
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As this thread proves once again, /tv/ is riddled with filtered plebs.
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>>71818417
This is true. But it doesn't change reality. And the reality is that Snyder himself is a shallow as a puddle.

Analyze the movie all you want, I don't care. Just don't make up nonsense about Snyder being a genius.
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>>71816860
What lie?
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>>71818995
that the eponymous man of steel doesnt save anyone
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