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>>71784540
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>>71789592
Azor Jon
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Azor Bron
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>tripfag
>bradamante
>tumblr filename
>jaimexbrienne

Third for Jonsa.

Fight fire with fire
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Imagine being /got/ in that scene and having to be all like "damn, Bobby B fought for this?", all sexy with your chubby bod and horrific bloated face. I would totally have sex with you" when all they really want to do is fuck another 14 year old. Like seriously imagine having to be /got/ and not only sit in that chair while Lyanna with her dying body in front of you, the favorable lighting barely concealing her double chin and greasy skin, and just sit there, take after take, second after second, while this scene plays. Not only having to tolerate her oleaginous fucking visage but her haughty attitude as every whiteknight on the thread tells her she's beautiful and DAMN, "Tbh most women are ugly when they're soaked in sweat and on their deathbed!!" because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch her slimy gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been fucking nothing but a healthy diet of brunnetes and supermodels and spammed the likes of Ozge Gurel and Anna Speckhart. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on her "THIS IS MUH DYING FACE" as she tries her hardest to act it in to writhe it suggestively at you, smugly assured that you are enjoying the opportunity to finally see Lyanna and her fabled supposed beauty and to sit there and revel in her "Northern" beauty, the beauty DND worked so hard for to find in the previous months, "AN 18-21 year old STUNNER" they said, And then the director calls for her to ahve more screen time, basically repeating "PROMISE ME, NED" over and over again with her pig voice, and you know you could go full r9k and kill every single person involved in this shit before the studio security could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking Anon. You're not going to lose your slave wage career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.
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Thank you Uncle Benjen
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Nth the Mannis

>for old times sake
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What if benjen impregnated some girl

Would their babies be ok or would they be wights or some shit
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>Friendly reminder that the spirit of Stannis Baratheon lives inside Jon Snow
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Mods are coming to holocaust us soon
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>>71789685
His sperm are dead.

The blood in his body have gone and pooled in his extremities like his legs and arms.

He's not fucking anything
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>>71789722
Well, at least he doesn't have to worry about breaking his oath anymore.
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>>71789722
Wait are you sure that's how it works? What if she gave him a handy dandy
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>>71789776
He still wouldn't be able to get it up,

He's literally a walking corpse.

He's a wight, he's just conscious is all, he's even noticeably rotting if you look at his face and bare hands >>71789648
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I can not wait for brienne to catch that dick. Everyone's waiting for dany to land, for jaime to kill cersei and i m just waiting for her to get some good dick
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cast her

hard mode : no asha
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So they're engaged? Who the fuck is she? Is she an actress?
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>>71789842
Brothel Whore #4
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>>71789842
The whore Pycelle didn't pay
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>>71789660
My king
Bends the knee
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>>71789853
>>71789862
pls she's pure
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>>71789808
So the lack of bloodflow to his brain, pulmonary system, limbs, all of that is fine, but the magic draw a line at his pecker? But why?
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>>71789845
>engaged

alright calm down
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>>71789699
>You will never have Stannis Baratheons spirit inside you

Why live?
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>>71789886
It's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit
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>>71789881
Okay, Kings Landing courtier #188
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>>71789886
I wonder what a zombie orgasm would feel like
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>>71789908
But then neither does the other anon. So fuck you, senpai.
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Anyone else autistic enough to be upset that Dothraki will probably fuck up Armored knights and Heavy Armored Cavalry when they aren't portrayed as having any means to do that?
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>>71789922
I don't know why, but the sensation that immediately flashed through my mind was a regular orgasm, but with Icy Hot on your member.
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I don't care if he's a bastard. Ned Stark's blood runs through his veins.

It rhymes
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>>71789958
Its autistic you stupid kid its the truth
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>>71789648
How did he get a phone + earphones?
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>>71789842
Mya Stone
Dacey Mormont
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>>71789958
I really wish the Dothraki were basically the Mongols from Marco Polo.
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If Valyrian steel never loses it's edge, why the fook is Ned always sharpening Ice in the Godswood?
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>>71789845
What

I hope this isn't real. Poor Isaac.
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>>71790021
He's just cleaning the deserters and Boltons off of it senpai.
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>>71789895
He calls her his fiancee.
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>>71789592
Jaime and Brienne are both azor ahai. Jaime the unlikely hero and brienne the soul of the last true knight to ignite the sword of heroes.
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>>71790049
oic
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You have to stand trial before the Seven for the worst crime you've committed. How does it go?
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>>71789958
Well, I won't be surprised, but one of the things I liked from the first series is when Jorah fights a Dothraki warrior who's obviously younger and a better fighter, but wins by allowing him to swing his kopesh-thing into his side and allowing his breastplate to take the hit, before trapping it and killing him.

I remember thinking 'fucking finally, a fantasy series that realises WHY knights wore armour'. Cue all the next seasons generally reverting to standard TV series form and showing fully armoured men being cut down by slashes.

Dothraki should use lances or, preferably, horse archers against Westorosi men-at-arms, but yeah, I imagine they'll just be shown winning due some innate superiority + Dany plot armor that will allow them to overcome armour.
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>>71790089
Am I in Dorne?
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>>71790097
I love that fight scene desu. It's probably my favorite fight scene in the show honestly.
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>>71790062
Prove it
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>>71790147
Look at that dumb spin he does tho.

Dumbass could have just been stabbed in the back with no way to defend.
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>>71790173
Yeah well you gotta church it up a little for Tv. I like it because they made it look pretty sweet while still holding to the basic truth that armor has a purpose.
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>>71789994

I fucking pray to god that the Sand Snakes get fucked somehow. I swear to fucking Christ if they just drop the fact that they committed a horrendous crime and expect people to forget I'm going to lose shit.

I'd actually feel something if I saw someone killing them for revenge unlike "teleports behind you" Arya.
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>>71790089
What's the Seven's opinion on shoplifting?

I imagine I'll be fine, I'd happily join the Faith Militant in pennance. Chicks dig scars.
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>>71789599
Based
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>>71790171
read the first comment in the pic
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>>71790194
This. Real life fencing doesn't really make for great TV and normies wouldn't appreciate it anyway.

It tends to be blow > counterblow > dead
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GUYS! GUYS! GUYS! HOLY FOOKIN' FOOK

IT'S HAPPENING!
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>>71789869
absolute madman
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>>71790293
looks pretty cool to me
>out fucking poked
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>>71790300
nice try
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>>71790293
That gif is unironically the coolest HEMA longsword counterattack I've ever seen. Try harder, foggat
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>>71789958

Totally. It's not like there's a historical basis for nomadic, steppe "savages" completely fucking knights shit up.
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>>71790270
bitch post a screenshot
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>>71790380
You mean apart from the one that was just posted?... Okay
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>>71790354
i just looked up broadsword fencing, there is some pretty sweet shit
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Cool thread, OP.

But is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Euron Greyjoy? Let alone defeat him. And I’m not talking about Crow’s Eye Euron Greyjoy. I’m not talking about Lord Reaper of Pyke Euron Greyjoy either. Hell, I’m not even talking about King of the Iron Isles and North Euron Greyjoy with the Dragonbinder plundered from the ruins of Valyria and the Horn of Winter (which may have the ability to destroy the Wall, allowing the Others to pass through, heralding the beginning of the eternal night), equipped with his BIG COCK, expertise in psychological warfare and vicious mind games, control of the crew of the Silence, the most fearsome ship on both sides of the Narrow Sea, with three warlocks enslaved granting him access to various black magics, potentially with control over them himself while being an expert in reaving, raping and cuckolding. I’m talking about First and Last Storm Drowned God Crow’s Eye Lord Reaper of Pyke King of the Isles and North Euron Greyjoy with the Dragonbinder plundered from the ruins of Valyria, the Horn of Winter, a horn capable of summoning krakens from under the sea that was rumored to once belong to House Celtigar of Claw Isle, a BIG COCK, equipped with his Valyrian Steel Armor while having been contacted by the Three-Eyed Crow, potentially giving him powers of greensight and skinchanging, controlling the crew of the Silence, the most fearsome ship on both sides of the Narrow Sea, control over three Warlocks granting him access to various black magics, potentially with control over them himself and furthered enhanced by consuming Shade of the Evening, capable of summoning storms through blood sacrifice and possessing immense amounts of plunder, including dragon eggs which allows him to recruit Faceless Men which can assassinate his enemies with extreme prejudice.

I didn't think so.
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Can anyone explain what the fucking hell happened to the costume department after the first couple seasons?

I mean look at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArHAQzH10GU and compare it to the Sept of Balor confrontation.
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>>71790322
>>71790354
>Still looks cool

Yeah, that's why I've got it saved, but it doesn't change the fact that the fights over in 0.3 seconds.

Imagine how your average GoT-watching crowd would react to fight scenes that you could miss by blinking. It's like how they add clicks in post production when someone's pulling the trigger on an empty chamber, audiences expect it, just like they expect flashy swings and pirrouettes in sword fights.
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>>71790404
i meant one you didnt fake you b8ing ho
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>>71789592
Friendly reminder that Arya will kill Sansa and Podrick will deflower Brienne.
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>>71790430
think he's got mangekeyo under his eye patch. Like in those Chinese cartoons?
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>>71790293
>I consider myself a HEMA expert
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>>71790430
Eurons going to bring down the wall to lay claim to the sea dragon frozen within it's centre. Bran will help summon the ice dragon and resurrect it from the remains of the magical ice pool in the gods wood.
Hopefully Euron kills a dragon of hers and uses his magic to lay claim to a good portion of her military force. Enslave them with magic to be his thralls.
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>>71790430
>allows him to recruit Faceless Men
no, price is based on the individual no fucking way Euron only gets charged a dragon egg
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>>71790377
Mongolians used mostly horse archers using recurve bows with absurdly heavy draws. The Dothraki don't use bows, they use mostly short swords for some reason. They're closer to Scythians than Mongols and they'd totally get fucked up by a medieval knight in full plate armor, hell the crossbow would be a huge game changer for them.
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>>71790432
Lannisters became broke, Tyrells wasted a great portion of their money in trying to solidify an alliance with the lannisters.
I thought that was rather obvious, hence the incapability of throwing another grande wedding after joffreys ridiculously funded death party.
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>>71790488
Implying Euron will allow the dothraki to reach westeros. And if they did he'd slaughter them once they land.
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>>71790502
>they're broke
Okay, what?
They're still all wearing plate armor, they just look like plastic shit made in a high school workshop. They are shitty costumes, my man. I'm not talking about in universe because if they wanted to portray that they'd have them wearing something else. I'm asking why the costumes got so bad.
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>>71790488

> The Dothraki don't use bows

In the show yes. In the books that's exactly what they do, and why they are so dangerous. But you're right the two are pieces of media. I've been listening to GoT audio book recently to try and cleanse the show from my brain.
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>>71790472
Or I've just watched it and it's fairly obvious it's too fast and subtle to transfer well to a TV program?

Ned vs Jaime was about a minute long of fancy swinging and clashing blades together. No one in their right mind would replace that with 20 seconds of them circling each other, followed by Ned lunging, being deflected and cut and the fight being over in a fraction of a second.

Sometimes realism has to give way to entertainment, no one wants to watch Captain Kirk do 99.99999% of his missions in a full EVA suit because even a slight difference in atmosphere or unknown ayy pathogen would kill him.
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>>71790502
>>71790549
HBO replaced the costuming company at the end of season 4. CGI in the show is eating up the shows budget.
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>>71790293
There's a place not too far from me that teaches HEMA Broadsword fencing. It looks really fucking fun, and I kind of want to try it, but that seems like an incredibly Neckbeardy hobby...

Fuck it. I'm gonna sign up for the trial lesson. Post all the fedora tipping maymays you want, /got/.
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>>71790596
As far as I remember, they still don't actually use massed horse archey like the Mongols in the books though. That's how the laughable Unsullied managed to beat them, they just kept making massed charges with light cavalry into the Unsullied's spearwall.
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>>71790604
Don't respond to the tripfag
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when will the winds of winter book be released...?
will it have spoilers of season 7...?
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>"Cersei is the only antagonist of Sansa's that she really has left" - Sophie Turner

>"We have so many enemies now." - Jon Snow

What's the truth???
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>>71790604
>I've watched my fair share of HEMA
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>>71790623
If you find it fun, who gives a shit if it's neckbeardy?
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>>71790488

Whats dumb is they're basically taking the Mongols, neutering them, saying they're great, and then having a group based off an EMpire that existed for less then a hundred years and basically only fought against Byzantines and Turks.

Dothraki by all accounts should be massacred during any kind of attack where the enemy understands what they're facing. Crossbows, pikes, stake formations, they'd be slaughtered and have to win solely on number. Unsullied aren't much better with how lightly armored they are.
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>>71790642
Yeah, my bad, I didn't see the trip until I posted it.
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>>71790623
Godspeed, senpai-sama.

But in all seriousness, actual exercise isn't something most neckbeards are into. As long as you don't get a pretentious attitude about it you should be fine.
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I just realized Sansa is the only Stark without any god powers.

Jon gets revived by the Red God, Arya gets disguises from the Many-Faced God, and Bran gets nature stuff from the Old Gods.

I'm okay with this.
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>>71790678
Jon considers the WW and possibly some Northern houses their enemies, not to mention Freys and whatnot. Sophie as usual is just dumb
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>>71790097

what is the point of doing a little twirl before striking him?
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>>71790723
having someone else resurrect you isnt a god power. also taking faces isnt a power so much as it is a skill that supposedly anyone could learn if they cared enough to apprentice at the HoBaW.
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>>71790707
Just always make sure to filter Bradamante and you won't have to worry about him, except for those times he drops his trip to make threads, agree with himself and shitpost.
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>>71790703
Unsullied are basically just Spartans/Mamluks/Jannisaries, except literally neutered and with a maximum edginess training program. They'd be just as shit, if not more so, than the Not!Mongol Dothraki. At least the Dothraki are implied to have a huge numerical advantage and mainly prey on lightly defended settlements.

GRRM cannot into military history.
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>>71790684
I might have chuckled had that actually been something he said.
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>>71790723
Does being the future holy vessel of Jon's seed count?

Cause I think it does.
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>>71790786
So Arya gets two powers? Sweet.
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>>71790749
Showing off I guess, both for the TV and in-universe audience and you could argue he's a lot younger, faster and a better fighter than Mormont and knows he's going to be able to land that next hit. Except he's got zero experience fighting men in armor.
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>>71790723
Sansa has Plot-armor powers
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>>71790723
>Arya gets disguises from the Many-Faced God

Isn't this shown to just be skinning people's faces?

Also Arya murdered and face-skinned some poor random serving wench to get close to Frey, are we still supposed to cheer for her?
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>>71790737
I think Sophie just means who Sansa personally wants dead. Obviously she knows the WW are their enemies but she doesn't want revenge against the Night's King himself or anything. With Cersei it's personal for her. She might've said Walder Frey before but he's dead now.
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>>71790852
yeah its not a god given power if anyone can do it
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>>71790852
Did she carve that off herself? I thought she stole it from the hall.
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>>71790608
>realistic and interesting costumes got removed for the sake of MUH DRAGONS

DABID
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Did they fuck?
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>>71790937
you just know
/subject
/thread
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>>71790608
The costumer who worked for the first five seasons actually made Cerseis outfit in the final episode.
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What specifically does Sansa have against Cersei?

Was it cause Cersei was mean to her or cause Cersei wanted one of the direwolves killed which winded up being Lady?
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>>71790885
Well they didn't show her stealing any faces from the hall so I assumed she got it herself.

Plus I thought it must be one of Frey's servants because otherwise there'd be no point, it's not like she needs it to conceal her true identity, no one would recognise her anyway, she just needed a face that would allow her to infiltrate Frey's feasting hall without alerting his guards or servants i.e. One of his servants.
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find a better sigil
pro tip you cant
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>>71790774
Unsullied are straight up Triarii

Seriously, why do they have spears?
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>>71790991
it shows first good costume since s4, once again and forever wtf is with the KG change its fucking awful
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>>71790806
>jonarya
>ever

Get with the new hotness
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>>71791015
Is this b8? Obviously everything she endured as a hostage following her father's death. I mean fuck, in the books she even runs to Cersei grassing about Ned's plan to leave the capitol which is well after what Cersei did to Lady. She trusted Cersei and Joffrey and was in for a rude awakening afterwards.
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>>71789699
>Several weeks after Stannis's army is stuck thanks to the snow falls there is almost no snow falls when Jon fights
>In the North
>When it is virtually Winter in the North already
Cool
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>>71791097
Kit Harrington and Jon both ship Jonaerys.
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>>71789958
They are all going to die because winter is here
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>>71791032
well yea whats your point?
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>>71790377
Mongols had a lot of heavily armoured lancers too, they just weren't mentioned much because that was considered normal to Europeans.

They picked up a lot of civilisation by trading with Chinamen and then conquering them.
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>>71791195
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>>71790003
Three Eyed Crow time traveled him up some goodies.
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Best Joffrey
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>>71790834
Plot armor? The girl that spends 5,5 seasons being the punching bag for pretty much everyone?
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>>71790488
>They're closer to Scythians
Nope
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>>71790596
>In the books that's exactly what they do, and why they are so dangerous.
Lol no, in books they use bone bow.
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>>71791318
>warts on dick
ew
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>>71789845
They're brits

They still cut off your dingle dangle twenty years ago for doing gay stuff, of course he needs a sham marriage
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>>71791053
Triarri had tower shields and heavy armor to supplement their (short, fighting) spears. They were wealthy citizens and military veterans too, not slaves.

TV show Unsullied's equipment is retarded. Their spears are too long for fighting spears, but too short to make effective pikes. Their shields are too small to form a shieldwall/phalanx with, you need to overlap your shields so the force from any impacts is disappated along the entire wall.

Plus they're supposed to be heavy infantry according to their described tactics. That means they need either heavy armor, not leather shirts, or large shields, which as mentioned, they don't.

Combined with the fact they'd be physically inferior even to women, they'd get slaughtered by pretty much any half-organised fighting force in real life.
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YOU MUST CHOOSE A GOT CHARACTER TO BE YOUR

>Waifu/husbando forever
>Ultimate bro/platonic gf forever
>Daddy/Mommy
>Brother/Sister
>Son/Daughter
>Mentor
>Liege Lord
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>>71791324
She's been at the absolute mercy of almost every villian the show has had, yet is still alive.

Plot armor.
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>>71791434
>Waifu
Bad pussy snek
>Ultimate Bro
Bronn
>Daddy
Davos
>Mommy
Melisandre
>Brother
Jaime and Tyrion
>Mentor
Davos
>Lord
Lyanna Mormont
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>>71791434
>Waifu/husbando forever
Margaery would be the perfect wife. Sweet, loyal, loves sex and is open-minded enough to try your fetishes, and you get Mace the Ace and Olenna as your in-laws. She's kind of a gold-digger, though.

>Ultimate bro/platonic gf forever
Davos. He'll stick by you forever, but he's not afraid to tell you what's what when you're going off the rails.

>Daddy/Mommy
Ned Stark, I got chills and teared up when I read one of his chapters with Arya. He's so firm and patriarchal but so kind.

>Brother/Sister
Lyanna Mormont, fiercely loyal and smart so I could teach her a thing or two about ruling/fighting.

>Son/Daughter
I don't really want a kid. Robb to be my heir and Shireen for company, I guess.

>Mentor
Tywin

>Liege Lord
Stannis, I love how he just gets the job done at any cost, no matter what people think of him. The show kind of ruined him, though.
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>>71790623
Worst neckbeards get dropped out during the newbie seminars because it is actually a chore to swing long piece of metal around
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>>71791434
>ros
>davos
>rolland storm
>..........
>..........
>.........
>STANNIS
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>>71791475
>>Daddy
>Davos
>>Mommy
>Melisandre

How
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>>71791510
It's a hypothetical dipshit
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>>71791420
Gays have full rights in the UK....
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>>71791528
Yeah, that would be a PRETTY dysfunctional upbringing though haha.
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>>71791447
yeah but she's literally at their mercy.
She's basically beaten raped and degraded by everyone except small reprieves. Plot armor implies that she lucks out of consequence with a contrived twist, not she get gets to be several massive assholes punching bags for months on end.
Dany has plot armor, Ramsay had plot armor, Sansa survived because of pre-established reasons as to why none of the villains would actually kill her namely her political power or more to the point her name's political power.
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>>71789592
so i just finished episode 9 of this season, did hbo tell the writers to kill off 90% of the lesser characters to cut the budget? no wolves, killing off characters faster than ever, and wunwun was bullshit.
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>>71790432
They're no knights, just heavily armed infantry.
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>>71791252
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>there are people browsing this thread RIGHT NOW who genuinely believe jonsa will happen
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>>71791434
>Waifu
Margaery
>Ultimate Bro
Jaime Lannister
>Daddy
Tywin Lannister
>Son
Jon Snow
>Mentor
Ser Arthur Dayne
>Liege Lord
Stannis Baratheon
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>>71790723
It goes:
Bran>>>>>>>>Rickon>>>>>Arya>>>>Jon/Robb>powergap>Sansa

Though some have theorized that Sansa might use some very mild warging to make certain men kind of attach themselves to her and want to protect her (like the Hound or LF) but I'd chalk that up to her just being hot.
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>>71790860
Sophie is surprisingly stupid so it's more likely that. But Sansa spent years in the south so she also likely wouldn't even consider the WW anything but stories.

She should still be worried about the Iron Islands, the situation with Sweetrobin and other Northern houses outside of Cersei though.
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>>71791800
Is Rickon's power dying horribly?
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>>71791434
>Waifu/husbando forever
CIA

>Ultimate bro/platonic gf forever
Margaery

>Daddy/Mommy
CIA

>Brother/Sister
Sansa

>Son/Daughter
Tommen

>Mentor
CIA

>Liege Lord
CIA
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>>71791831
In earlier seasons and in the show Rickon was able to greendream and he seemed (though we never knew the full extent of it) to have an even closer relationship with his wolf than maybe even Bran did. He was basically allowed to run feral and use his wolf as companionship so it's likely he was warging quite a bit.

The show included the greendreams that Rickon got and was able to interpret better than Bran and then they threw it all away.
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>>71791826
yeah i agree. i dont think she'll be focused on the WW, even if they tell her all about it, its the kind of thing that sounds like bullshit until you see it with your own eyes.
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>>71791434
>Waifu/husbando forever
Margaery
>Ultimate bro/platonic gf forever
Renly
>Daddy/Mommy
Davos
>Brother/Sister
Jon
>Son/Daughter
Shireen
>Mentor
Sandor
>Liege Lord
Lyanna
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>>71791434
>>Waifu/husbando forever
Satin
>>Ultimate bro/platonic gf forever
Davos or Melisandre
>>Daddy/Mommy
This is creepy, but probably some Tyrells for their wealth
>>Brother/Sister
Bran/Shireen
>>Son/Daughter
no
>>Mentor
Maester Luwin or Olenna
>>Liege Lord
A Tyrell

>>71791842
But Sansa is a horrible sibling
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>>71791434
>Waifu forever
Meera Reed. She's cute, caring, and she can handle a frogspear, if you know what I mean.
>Ultimate bro
Tormund
>Daddy
Ned Stark
>Brother
Jon Snuh
>Daughter
Arya
>Mentor
Davos
>Liege Lord
Wyman Manderly, for the pies.
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Update on The Winds of Winter

http://grrm.livejournal.com/492740.html
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>>71791434
>Husbando
Robb
>Bro
Robb
>Mommy
Cersei
>Brother
Gendry
>Daughter
Arya
>Mentor
Daario
>Liege Lord
Ned Stark
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>>71792128
replace Bronn with Robb for bro on second though
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>>71792147
Bronn is a Tywin agent, Robb may be stupid but at least he's moral.
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>>71791918
she was nice to jeyne poole and to margaery. she was mean to arya bc she wasn't a proper lady but i am.

also we are both cold and ruthless.

me and sansa would be great sisters.
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>>71792086
fuck you george
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>>71792188
Sansa was a bitchy elitist cunt and she'd fuck you over just like she did to her father.

I actually regret that she didn't marry Ramsay in the books, dog rape is too good for her.
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>>71792226

Who's the best fighter in the GoT universe?
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>>71791434


>Waifu/husbando forever

Margaery Tyrell

>Ultimate bro/platonic gf forever

theon's sister

>Daddy/Mommy

Ehh the starks?

>Brother/Sister
Jon snow and tyrion

>Son/Daughter

sansa

>Mentor

For fighting? The hound probably, or arthur dayne.

for just a general combination, jon arryn

>Liege Lord

a stark
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>>71790723
In the books, all of the Stark children are skinchangers. Bran is just the best one at warging.

Sansa's direwolf died early on, so she didn't have as much experience at warging like her siblings did, despite her potential.
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>liking Cersei
jesus christ, you retards would literally do anything just to be contrarian and edgy, wouldn't you?
Cersei is a shit character in the books, she's a shit character in the series as well. There is absolutely nothing likable about her - she's stupid and arrogant,
yet thinks she's as smart as Tywin.Everything Cersei did only weakened the Lannisters and the Kingdom.She says she only cares about her children yet she's too stupid to realize she's the one that killed them.
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>>71792402
Her chapters were hilarious. I would not want to know her personally, but was an interesting character.
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>>71792402
Here we go again.
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>>71790749

momentum from spinning.

It's like a spinning backkick in martials arts, take a bit more time but a lot more force
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->Cersei - a crazy bitch that hates everyone, drinks wine and kills a bunch of people because she only cares about herself and her children ... for six seasons and possibly two more.
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>>71792258

Im pretty sure its Jon actually since he's TEH CHOSEN ONE and shit.

It used to be Jaime but not anymore, we all know why.
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>>71791434
>>Waifu/husbando forever
melly
>>Ultimate bro/platonic gf forever
oberyn
>>Daddy/Mommy
davos
>>Brother/Sister
tyrion
>>Son/Daughter
arya
>>Mentor
barristan
>>Liege Lord
dont give a shit
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>final scene is the ruined snowy Red Keep
>sitting on the Iron Throne is the Night's Queen, Cersei Lannister
>with a small motion of her hand she calls to her side the shambling corpses of Jaime, Joffrey, Myrcella and Tommen
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>Bran isn't gay

WHY THE FUCK MUST THE WORLD FUCKING HATE ME I WANTED TO FUCK HIM SO BADLY
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1hExk2MKz0
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>>71792728
that would be dumb
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HOW PROBABLE ARE EACH THESE THEORIES OUT OF 10?

> Jaime will kill Cersei after she goes Mad Queen and tries to burn the city
> Dany will be seen as "evil"
> Jon will make peace with the WW and not destroy them
> Jon is AA
> Dany is AA
> There is no AA, it's an elaborate ruse so that men unite behind one figurehead
> Bran is R'hllor
> WW are good, the Fire religion is bad
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>>71792735
I'm still convinced he is and he's just a try-hard with a beard. I've seen interviews with him and there is no way he isn't a massive faggot.
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>"Jon's declared King in the North and no one even thinks 'What about Sansa?" She's actually a true Stark and she's the one who brought in the Knights of the Vale. Maybe she deserves to be Queen in the North." - D&D
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>>71792750
>I will do what queens do. I will rule.
by far the most irritating thing in both the books and the show. meereen was a mistake.
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Damn Lyanna is growing up
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>>71791324
>>71791573

She doesn't have plot armor because she got beaten up a little bit? She got no lasting wounds, after spending a decent length of time with a guy who kills or torture LITERALLY EVERYONE he gets his hands on.
>b-but she got raped! That last forever!

She got fucked by her husband and tumblr call it rape. All wives get fucked by their husband and most don't even have the choice of husband in Westeros.

>Dany has plot armor, Ramsay had plot armor, Sansa survived because of pre-established reasons as to why none of the villains would actually kill her namely her political power or more to the point her name's political power.

No, she survived because plot armor.
>But Joffrey couldn't kill her, she has political value!
...He killed Eddard Stark who has like like a thousand time her value. Yeah that was stupid as fuck, but he did it anyway. But he wasn't stupid enough to kill Sansa somehow. Because plot armor.

>Ramsay couldn't kill her he needs the north! He can't kill a Stark, let's be serious!
Well aside from Rickon Stark. Who comes first in line for the north.
And aside from Bran and Rickon(x2), Ramsay wanted to kill them long ago. He tried to hunt them down, failed. Roose even tried to send one of him men to kill Bran north of the wall, failed.
They also tried to kill Jon Snow.

They can kill literally any Stark ( and tried to do so many times ) but they can't kill Sansa. Because, again, plot armor.

If Ramsay and Joffrey had kept every stark alive, now you could push the political arguments.
But they killed every stark they could get their hands on except Sansa.
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>>71792769
>> Jaime will kill Cersei after she goes Mad Queen and tries to burn the city
Almost guaranteed. The show left out the "younger brother" bit and Jaime was staring at Cersei pretty hard. It made sense in the book and it was so obvious as to make sense that Cersei not see it. 10/10
>> Dany will be seen as "evil"
Also guaranteed, as per what the show has been building up. They even added in her not caring about Daario that kind of echoed what a sociopath she was becoming in the book. 9.5/10
>> Jon will make peace with the WW and not destroy them
Probably not 2/10
>> Jon is AA
>> Dany is AA
Probably not to both, but if there was one it would edge towards Jon. No number rating.
>> There is no AA, it's an elaborate ruse so that men unite behind one figurehead
This is more likely. 8/10
>> Bran is R'hllor
Possibly, I think his ability to both warg (control people) and time travel essentially lets him play god. He may also go back in time as Bran the builder somehow. I'm not sure if that means R'hollor specifically, though Bran may hunger so I'll give it a 5/10
>> WW are good, the Fire religion is bad
Unlikely, 1/10
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>>71792785
Sansa betrays Jon.
Arya adds her to the list.
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>>71792785
lol she deserves to be the lady of winterfell since she was still ramsay's wife.

if lady dustin can have a seat in a house then so can sansa.
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>>71792769

> Jaime will kill Cersei after she goes Mad Queen and tries to burn the city

Unlikely that the same thing will happen, even George has his limits

> Dany will be seen as "evil"

Very likely since she comes as a conqueror (meaning she'll bring war, war brings death) and most people fucking despise the targaryens because of the mad king

> Jon will make peace with the WW and not destroy them

Absolutely fucking not, his alliance and king position relies on killing them

> Jon is AA

Very likely, almost confirmed

> Dany is AA

Very likely

> There is no AA, it's an elaborate ruse so that men unite behind one figurehead

Very unlikely since the red god has already been shown to be real

> Bran is R'hllor

Absolutely not

> WW are good, the Fire religion is bad

Fuck no, what kind of good have they done?
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>>71792847
also this isn't an anti-sansa thing it just seems like jon is actually taking her seat away from her when he's proclaimed king
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>>71792852

Do you expect her to fucking assemble her atoms again like dr manhattan?

The black fish will be sir stonefish
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>>71792826

not the other guy but not being able to kill sansa is because of political reasons not plot armor you fucking twit holy shit

protip male off spring outranks female offspring
GUESS WHY THEY WANTED TO KILL ALL THE MALES

holy fuck you are stupid
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>>71792832
I'm the guy you replied to btw

I agree with most of you, but I don't think the "Dany is evil" thing will play out in the show. She's far too liked by normalfags, and D&D have always commented that she's a "good" Targ.

I'd be happy if it happened, but I think it's a stretch too far.

>>71792848
> Fuck no, what kind of good have they done?

I shouldn't have said "good", what I meant was
that they operate in tangent with eachother (WW provide balance to the world, like Mass Effect 3)
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>>71792826
Not even him but you are wrong.

Her "lasting wound" may be pregnancy (we'll see) which would ruin any chances she had at getting Winterfell. She's also tainted by Ramsay (and, to a lesser degree, Tyrion) through her marriages to them, making her even less likely to be able to take control over the North.

And no, Sansa does not have plot armor. Ned and Rickon, being men, were liabilities since they were the ones in power (or, in the case of Rickon, the one to unquestionably inherit power). It made sense that both of them be killed from the pov of the people who killed them. Sansa is not really much in the running for power/title but marrying her (and thus, creating an alliance with the Starks and a strong stake in the North) would bestow some power and influence to the man she marries. She's a pretty important political tool who is also passive, pleasing and attractive. It makes sense that she be kept alive by all the men that kept her alive.

Compare that to Arya's plot armor where she was stabbed several times in the guts and thrown into a sewer and managed to heal overnight with no lasting issues and no explanation. That's real plot armor.
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>>71792879

Thats like saying batman doesn't have plot armor in dc because he trains harder than everyone else
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>>71792769
well I'll assume you're talking about the books, given taht shit like AA doesn't exist on the show?

> Jaime will kill Cersei after she goes Mad Queen and tries to burn the city
7/10
> Dany will be seen as "evil"
9/10
> Jon will make peace with the WW and not destroy them
3/10. I don't really think it's that unlikely but I put such a low note because (of cousre) it might not happen, but also it might happen and not be Jon.
> Jon is AA
0/10
> Dany is AA
0/10
Neither of them has a Nissa Nissa.
> There is no AA, it's an elaborate ruse so that men unite behind one figurehead
6/10.
There might or might not be an AA but there will be an 'apparent' AA for sure. i.e. someone who will fit every single thing of the prophecy. It might not be becasue the prophecy is real, might just be because shit happens, but someone will fit AA. He might just fail to save the world in the end tho.
> Bran is R'hllor
stupid/10
> WW are good, the Fire religion is bad
Killing random people is never good, regardless of your motivations.
They might not be as evil as we think they are, but they certainly aren't "good".
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>>71792876
I'm okay with that as well
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>>71792884
>I agree with most of you, but I don't think the "Dany is evil" thing will play out in the show. She's far too liked by normalfags, and D&D have always commented that she's a "good" Targ.
Normies cheer when popular characters do anything no matter how cruel. Normies also like Cersei.

And I don't think Dany is an inherently bad person, she had some noble goals. She's also just really stupid and misguided and her actions come across as evil.

I think it's likely that she'll invade Westeros with "good intentions" and end up killing a ton of people and unleashing Dothraki and Iron Islanders on everyone. The situation will get out of control with the entire continent raped and plundered and it'll all go down on her, especially after her dragons also burn down tons of villages and innocent people because she can't really control them.
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>>71792912
>Jon is AA
>0/10
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>>71792879
>protip male off spring outranks female offspring
>GUESS WHY THEY WANTED TO KILL ALL THE MALES
You're literally retarded, or you're in SIDF and are really reaching to make a point.

Yes, Joffrey killed Eddard but not Sansa because he was a savvy politician.

Not just because he was a fucking retard who killed Eddard (WHICH IS A TERRIBLE IDEA, wtf are you talking about your offspring shit)... But somehow didn't have the same terrible idea with Sansa.

The same Sansa he now hated BEFORE eddard's treason because of the wolf shit.

There's zero explanation for Joffrey not killing Sansa and you know it.

Hell, they even tried to find Arya to KILL HER if they could find her...
They don't give a fuck about Eddard (who could've made Robb turn his army around), they don't give a fuck about arya, the bolton don't give a fuck about rickon, don't give a fuck about bran, walder don't give a fuck about Robb... yet EVERYONE cares a lot about keeping Sansa alive.
Retards keep her alive, sadistic psychopath keep her alive, everyone.
Oh sure, Walder Frey keeps Edmure alive.
For the Baby. Jaime even reflects that "Rosling is growing Edmure's death in her belly", because it's just obvious they'd kill him after the baby's born.
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>>71792840
I like the theory that Jon will end up killing LF and Sansa for treason at some point and Sansa will be his Nissa Nissa.
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>>71792993
>joffrey was a savvy politician
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>>71792896
>She's a pretty important political tool
Again, this make no sense with the Joffrey situation.

Why is Sansa useful to Joffrey?
I mean they even break off the marriage, so it's certainly not to solidify the north situation by an alliance. It's not to stop Robb's army, because his army doesn't stop for sansa anyway. They might've stopped for Eddard tho.

So, why didn't Joffrey kill Sansa once he bethroted Margaery? How does it help keeping her alive?
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>>71793037
you realize sansa married tyrion right?
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>>71792862
You realize Winterfell is the seat of
the King in the North, right?

Lady of Winterfell is kind of a pointless title when the King is using Winterfell as his seat and can basically overrule or ignore anything she says. That's why there's not a seperate Lord or Lady of the Red Keep. Because there's no fucking point. She's basically a figurehead with a pity title but no real power to do anything without Jon's approval.
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>>71792983
If you read 3 lines down : Jon doesn't have a Nissa Nissa.

AA needs to have the strongest love (or at least a very strong love) for someone and kill her.

Jon doesn't really love anyone that much, and I doubt he'll find romance on tinder after his resurrection.

The only person that could come close is Arya, but first, it's supposed to be romantic love, then, they'll probably never meet again, and if they do why woudl he kill her?
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I don't understand why actors volunteer to die just for a TV series, I mean what about their friends and family?
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>>71793061
that doesn't contradict the point i'm trying to make
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>>71792993
>There's zero explanation for Joffrey not killing Sansa and you know it.
Cersei and Tyrion prevented it?
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>>71793008
...That was precisely me making fun of that other post.
Who was arguing that Joffrey killed Eddard but not Sansa because of some political reasons.
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>>71792993
Joff not killing Sansa made sense all around though. He was embarrassed in front of her but he still liked her and clearly felt attracted to her (recall he even threatened to rape her when she married Tyrion). Nobody was influencing him to kill her either, as absolutely everyone wanted to keep her alive as she was extremely politically important, though this is under the assumption that someone--likely LF--was influencing Joff's decision to kill Ned.

In the situation from the first book/season Arya was no longer important and only Joff wanted her dead. The other Lannisters did look for her but Sansa herself was enough, and she was more important than Arya because she could be married off, making her (again) an important political tool. They all gave her up for dead when more pressing matters popped up, which is in itself realistic, or potentially proof of Arya being the one with plot armor, not Sansa.

And Ramsay keeping her alive also made perfect sense as it was already explained in the thread.

As per the rest, people did try to find Bran and Rickon, what are you talking about? The ones who didn't (the books, mainly) didn't because they were assumed to be dead.

I guess you had pretty good b8 getting all of us to respond though, I'll grant you that.
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>>71793084
well she WAS made lady of winterfell according to hbo viewer's guide, but like i said, it's a pointless title now that the king in the north is seated there.
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>>71792993
>There's zero explanation for Joffrey not killing Sansa and you know it.
He preferred watching her squirm and suffer and presumably was so confident that she would remain forever in his grasp that he could do anything he wanted with her instead of just killing her off.

Also, if all of the other Starks died off, Sansa would be the next in line, and thus whoever marries her is the rightful Lord of Winterfell and the North, with her as the Lady.

>>71792862
Because he technically does. Winterfell is the seat of the King in the North, and Jon being elected King causes him to more or less usurp the title from Sansa, but because of how uncertain things were at the crowning it's not easy to properly determine who was the actual Lord/Lady of Winterfell at the time. It is absolutely definitely Jon though at this point.

>>71793061
The King on the Iron Throne is technically also Lord of King's Landing/The Red Keep as it is their seat.
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What are you guys doing to treat your GoT withdrawals?
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>>71793121
that's what im saying tho, jon seems like an asshole because he's essentially taking away any power sansa would have had as lady of winterfell when he becomes king
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Wasn't Cersei obsessed with Rhaegar? how she will react when she see Kelly C?
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How old is CIA in the books?
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>>71793074

Doesnt Ygritte counts for that tho?

And >implying he cant meet dany, fall in love with her and sacrify her.

As other posters have stated, dany ruling westeros is pretty unlikely in the long term
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>>71793061
Also all of the Starks children are Lords/Ladies of Winterfell to a point, they're just not the Lords/Ladies of the North.
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>>71793171
33
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>>71793154
Girls can´t love girls.
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>>71793154
She was really attracted to him and "loved" him, so much as Cersei could, but she wasn't really obsessed with him.

>>71793145
Sansa's claim to Winterfell would have been a bit questionable anyway (her previous marriages, possible pregnancy and obviously being a woman). Naming Jon king and marrying her to Sweetrobin to strengthen that alliance actually makes sense, and that way she could rule over the Vale.
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>>71793132
watching shitty anime
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>>71793130
>He preferred watching her squirm and suffer and presumably was so confident that she would remain forever in his grasp that he could do anything he wanted with her instead of just killing her off.

You do realize that this is akin a James Bond villain making a speech before killing Bond, and by doing so giving him time to escape/kill the villain?

>Bond didn't have plot armor! The villain only wanted to explain his plan to him so he died miserable or something!
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>>71792944
>I think it's likely that she'll invade Westeros with "good intentions" and end up killing a ton of people and unleashing Dothraki and Iron Islanders on everyone. The situation will get out of control with the entire continent raped and plundered and it'll all go down on her

So is this a metaphor for immigration in Europe or
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>>71793207
You're trying a little too hard now.
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>>71793207
Yeah but Joffrey's not exactly the brightest bulb either. He seems to type to be mindlessly cruel for his own entertainment.
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>>71793130
>The King on the Iron Throne is technically also Lord of King's Landing/The Red Keep as it is their seat

That's what I thought which is why I don't get people who say Jon being King has no effect on Sansa being Lady of WF.

People act like they'll work together, and maybe they will, but there will come a time when they disagree and she'll realize that she has no real power.
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>>71793173
Well Jon didn't kill her personally, even tho he feels responsible for it. And he doesn't fit 99% of the other stuff to be AA too, and there's only 2 books left, and the Dany shit will probably drag at least half a book before she even gets to Westeros, and she'll probably land as far as possible from Jon.

If it's not Dorne, it's gonna be Storm's end with Aegon.

Best case scenario would be the Iron Isles with Vic/Euron, but that's still pretty far.
So, Dany lands at 500 pages, meet with Jon toward the end/early aDoS, and they grow the strongestest love ever in the first half of ados then Jon kills her and save the world? Somewhere along the lines, capturing a lion and all the other shit?

Not very likely. If AA is real, the love must already be in, 5 books in... That'd be really stupid to just have someone fall in love and kill her in no time just to rush the prophecy.
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>>71793198
Her claim to Winterfell is literally the strongest of everyone's in the North, though. Arya is MIA and presumed dead, Bran is MIA and presumed dead, Benjen is MIA and presumed dead, Robb is dead, Rickon is dead, and Jon is a bastard.
The only other person who even has a claim on Winterfell is Harrion Karstark, and he sure as hell doesn't have bannermen that'd support such a claim, especially given he sided with Ramsay.
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>tfw you want Jon to be AA on the show just so Sansa is his Nissanissa and he kills that worthless cunt
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>>71791434
>Waifu
Brienne/Unella. I can't choose, they both are so good
>platonic gf forever
Ygritte
>Mommy
Cersei
>Sister
Margaery
>Son/Daughter
Impossible, but let it be Arya
>Mentor
Olenna (and Unella for religious stuff)
>Liege Lord
No one?
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Jaime is Azor Ahai / The lord of light.
His story draws influence from the one handed norse god Tyr, King Mydas, King Arthur and King James.
He and Cercei are obviously the children of the mad king. They've established he was an abuser and a rapist, his comments on the right of the first night at Tywin and Joannas wedding and the apparent 'liberties' he took on said wedding night. I believe the comment of liberties was to soften what ser Barristen was telling to dany. To not flat out say he was a rapist, though the story clearly establishes that.
The twins are the two sides of the coin the gods flip when siring a Targaryen. One for glory the other for madness.
Cercei the mad queen, joffrey the mad king.
Now getting to Tyr. Tyr is the one handed norse god who lost his hand when binding the winged wolf of ragnarok ( brandon ) the wolf who's been promised to fly by the raven.
King James obviously Jaime is a nickname for James.
King Mydas had the gold touch, then later called the Mydas touch. This is a reference to Jaimes golden hand.
Now King Arthurs influence. Ser Arthur Dayne is one who Jaime holds in such high regard and see's him as the best of the best, he'd love to be like him and the possibility is there also. He's never wanted to be king, he's never wanted the rock all he wanted was to be the best. Be the next Arthur.
Jaimes father the mad king knew Jaime was his son, so to prevent Tywin from obtaining the dragon rider gene he kept his bastard son close. So close he named him the youngest of the kings guard. Literally the order of the best knights across the realm. He was then trained by arthur after becoming apart of the order.

King Arthur from mythology was son of the head of the dragon ( uther 'pendragon' ) a red comet came the night he was conceived, Arthurs father was glamoured by a witch and slept with his enemies wife siring King arthur.
So the mystery conception is there.
> I'll finish in another post.
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>>71793264

Or maybe the prophecy isnt 100% accurate?

Also, you're thinking about BOOKS aa, this is TV m8, we're talking about the tv series here. the AA prophecy has never been given any more details aside from "the guy will wield a flaming sword" in the series
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>>71793292
yes please
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>>71790880
it's like real life
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>>71793302
>Brienne/Unella. I can't choose, they both are so good
Really? i feel bad for your shit taste,they are fuckin ugly
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>>71793291
Jon likely will be AA in the show. I think Dany is more likely in the books, though.
Bran is also potentially Azor Ahai if he greensights and wargs into the original Azor Ahai 8300+ years ago to the Age of Heros.

>>71793313
The prophecy is after all 8000 years old. It may not even be real and could easily be a fabrication of the Rhllor priesthood as a means to get powerful lords to convert. There have undoubtedly been thousands of people just like Stannis that got rused by the Red Priests.
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>>71793271
A lot of people know Bran is alive, but that's an aside.

Her claim is weakened by the simple fact that she's a woman. She's also tainted by both the Boltons (she might be pregnant by Ramsay) and the Lannisters through her marriage to Tyrion. The crown also wants her dead. She also has no experience or training in how to lead, especially for such a precarious political situation combined with impending war from two sides.

Jon was the acknowledged bastard of Ned Stark and he was named by Robb as Robb's heir (granted, no explanation for where Robb's will ended up). He clearly knows how to handle himself and he has strong alliances, plus he is obviously male. Also, and quite importantly in spite of feudalism, he was voted in by the Northern houses. Sansa can have her shaky claim but Jon is the one everyone wants for obvious reasons.
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>>71793326
no please,Tumblr will explose with that shit
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>>71793359
my dick would explode and that's all i care about
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>>71793186
>33

GoT starts 298AC. It's now 300AC, 2 years later. Cat says he is "still shy of 30" which most likely means 29, maybe even 28. You're saying he managed to age 4-5 years in 2 years?

Most likely answer is he was 29 at the start, and he's 31 now.
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>>71793347
Sansa still has a stronger claim to Winterfell than Jon, but Jon is the more practical and feasible leader. Claims aren't weakened by circumstances, only the likelihood that those claims can be pressed decreases if the claimant is unsuitable. Jon's claim was weaker, but he was passed over Sansa because she'd be a terrible Queen with no experience, no ability to lead troops, and so on.
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>>71793312
>wrap up

King Arthur was involved in a love triangle with Queen Gwen and Sir Lancelot. Just as Jaime was involved in a love triangle with Queen Cercei ( incest an obvious targaryen family trait ) and his cousin ser lancel ( sir lancelot )

Another interesting thing to note is the error in translation that occurred in reference to the words lord and light in high valyrian.

The word for lord and light and Gold Hand are almost identical words in high valyrian with a two letter difference.

Gold Hand = āeksion ondos
Lord Light = āeksio ōños

Now for the ironies.

Jaimes contemplation over placing Aegon and Rhaenys ( the grandchildren of aerys ) on the throne came to the conclusion to not do so due to Aerys madness.

Ironically he places Joffrey and Tommon two of the mad kings Grand children on the throne anyway.

Cercei and her children who ned saw as usurpers had more of a right to sit on the throne then king robert.

When commanded to bring kill his father, Jaime did exactly that and killed his father Aerys.

This has Tyrion and Jaime both King slayers and both Kinslayers.

I'm sure there is more one could find but what I've picked up on so far.
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>>71793386
yeah i guess the nights watch deserter who would have gotten everyone killed if it hadn't been for petyr and sansa is a much better ruler
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>>71793385
Peter Baelish was born in 268 AC, and it's 301 AC in the Books. He was 29 turning 30 in 298 (when the books start) and it's been about 3/4ish years. The lack of a calender to pinpoint the exact day he was born makes it weird.
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>>71793386
Claims are absolutely weakened by circumstance. Feudalism isn't always cut and dry and Sansa's current situation makes her claim weak. Jon himself had a relatively strong claim--bastards have been able to do shit on even as bastards (see: William the Conqueror).

Even if Jon weren't in the picture at all, everything would end up being about which Northern house (or, possibly Sweetrobin) gets to marry her, she just figures as a symbol in the end anyway so it would similar end up with everyone voting in some man as the king of the north with a marriage to Sansa to boost his claim.
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>>71789592
Part 1

>>71793312

Part 2

>>71793423

There is more weight to provide the idea that Jaime and Cercei as being the children to the mad king over Aerys.

Yes Tyrion is disfigured, has lighter hair and his eye ball. But I believe that to be a misdirection.

I see Tyrion as the reincarnation of lann hence the lighter hair and his dwarfism and eye may be the result of Tywin sleeping with his first cousin.

Incest isn't always a success when your not protected by magic.
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>>71793386
I think she'll realize she doesn't have any real power. She won't be getting the respect and appreciation she feels she deserves and it'll drive her back to Littlefinger.
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>>71793467
>I see Tyrion as the reincarnation of lann hence the lighter hair and his dwarfism and eye may be the result of Tywin sleeping with his first cousin.
That's barely incest and incest wouldn't really (well, necessarily) cause those features.
Also, going by that logic, all the Baratheon children born by incest should be fucked up dwarves.
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>>71793431
it has not been 3/4 years. 298 - 300 is not 3/4 years.
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>>71793446
>(see: William the Conqueror).
William the Conqeuror was already landed before he invaded England, and only inherited because there was literally no one else to take the throne. Bastards always come last when there's no one else. They passed over Sansa as Queen of the North because she wouldn't be a good ruler, not because her claim was weaker.
Normandy also had a history of bastards ruling.

>>71793498
It's 301 in the books or so.
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>>71793516
Her claim is literally weaker by the fact that she's a woman.
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>>71793489
Still there is far more weight to the theory of Jaime and Cecei being Targaryens then it does for Tyrion.

I'd love to hear why you believe it to be Tyrion but I believe I've provided enough evidence to convince one otherwise.

Read both post 1 and 2.

Then compare it to your theory.
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>>71793543
>"No son of mine..."
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>>71793533
A woman's claim is still stronger than a bastard's claim, but in the North things tend to be different due to the expectation of lords to be strong willed and/or warriors. It doesn't really matter anyway.
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>>71793516
>It's 301 in the books or so.

Source?
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>>71793467
There is also the parallel of Dunk and Egg ( aegon and Ser duncan ) with Brienne ( duncans ancestor ) and Jaime egg. ( a shaved head targaryen in hiding )
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