>>71769922
Like paying full price for a blu ray copy good? or more like a discount bin deal good?

>>71769922
Bay is a very competent director, but he mostly just cares about money so he typically makes dumb garbage because he knows it sells. When he actually tries he makes some pretty good movie.

Watch Pain and Gain.

>>71769944
In the middle. It's good, but it's a fairly standard modern war story.

>>71769922
>Michael Bay is bad
When will this meme end?
He's no Scott or Verhoeven, but he's pretty good for what at what he does. Even the last transfomer movie was good

>>71769922
Michael Bay being a bad director is a reddit meme

>>71769922

me and my dad watched this. i was really impressed, he loved it too. could have been trimmed 30 minutes or so. if sicario can do it in 2hours there's no reason this needs to be 2 and 1/2

>>71770301
Yeah I thought it dragged in a few parts, and there were a couple of groaner AMERICA moments, but otherwise it was a pretty solid movie. It was pretty gory too, which surprised me.

>>71770363
>>71770363

really? i thought the over the top patriotism was pretty restrained. i don't remember too many moments they were TOO america.

>>71770386
Just a couple of parts towards the end. There's an American flag in the pool that they linger on, and the chief guy saying "I'm proud to know Americans like you". Otherwise yeah, pretty restrained.

I don't enjoy propaganda.

>>71770820
Art is propaganda.

>>71770820
Honestly it's not propaganda. At least not as much as some other things