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Thank you, Uncle Benjen edition

>>71757378
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Azor Jon
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Game of Thrones is very Anti-Asian

What the hell, GRRM
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Would you say Game of Thrones is an objectively bad show?
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Azor DAYNE
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>>71762702
Yep.
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So how super buff do you think Gendry is now? He's been rowing for three years.
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>>71762704
Hey, me again.

Drop the trip. Please.
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>>71762725
no
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>>71762702
Season 5 and 6 have been unmemorable and full of filler of characters we don't care about
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>>71762699
good goy, more diversity!
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>>71762702
Nope. Only things holding it down are the writing, Sophie and Emilia. Directing is mostly on point, music is great, sets and costumes are great, cgi dragons look nice and overall I'm still interested to see how it all ends.

>Inb4 muh cliché ending

I've heard it.
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>>71762699
there was the asian in S5
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Where is Puppyfu? Does she still come here?
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>>71762782
She was in the other thread.
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>>71762782
>75% have left for off season because they arent autistic
>"b-but the only gurl stayed, right"
no
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why the fuck are you still making these threads the season is already over you fuckiong autists
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>>71762807
WTF i hate /got/ now
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>>71762617
>Kek that would be something. The secrets of valyrian steel lost for ages until this fatty came into the citadel with his stolen sword and stumbled across some forgotten scrolls.
Yeah it would be but I'm just trying to rationalise why it happened.

>>71762655
>I'm just saying that we haven't seen many character actually "be king" and have their decision affected since book 3.
I suppose so. No one we, as the audience, liked anyway. George can fuck off with his 'there are no heroes' bollocks, the Lannies are the bad guys. Who the fuck knows how he interpreted the quote about taxes though.
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Where the fuck is Stannis at right now /got/?
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>>71762847
He died.
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>>71762801
no i'm still here. i'm trash. i'll be here until they ban the general and then i'll migrate to reddit i guess.
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>>71762847
glamoured, in winterfell right now
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>>71762847
chilling in asshai
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>>71762853
They won't ban the general this time.
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>>71762835
I forgot that Stannis took a loan out against the Iron Bank. Who is going to pay that back? Does the Iron Bank now own whatever region the Baratheons held? Who gets Stannis tower with the dead fetuses?
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>>71762853
Yeah and I'm Marcus
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>>71762870
nor should they

there's eternal arsenal threads on sp literally always, so who cares
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>>71762853
And I'm Jonautist. Maisiefag is here as well >>71762697
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>>71762697
HOW'S AUSTRALIA
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>>71762732
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>>71762732
It's way better with the audio. I like her heavy breathing.
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Septa Nutella of the Most Devout is blessing this thread.
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>>71762892
>tfw the old gang is back together
Can we expect 15 hours of Jon/Stannis autism a day now
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>>71762949
Cersei should bless her with the royal wooden dildo.
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>>71762870
then i will stay here forever and continue to pay homage to CIA
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>>71762871
Based on how many forgotten plotlines they brought back this season I'd wager that plot is going to come back in season 7. But who indeed is going to pay it back? The reasoning we've had so far is that if you don't pay the Iron Bank they will fund your enemies. So they just might be backing Dany next.
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Why is he so based?
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>>71762801
>the only gurl
Oh, please
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>>71762892
it always feels comfy when you're here jonautist :')
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you're in a room alone with Cersei, what do you do ?
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>>71762847
Chilling in Fort Stannis
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>>71762991
puppyfu is just the only regular who's proven herself but i'm sure other girls come here desu
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>>71762768
this, if it weren't for the production value the show would've died long ago.
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>>71763018
fall to knees and beg her to let me hump her calves like a dog
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>>71762853
Stop pretending to be me.
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>>71762974
>if you don't pay the Iron Bank they will fund your enemies
So, Stannis' enemies, the Boltons ... who are dead too ...

Also why the fuck did Stannis march against the Boltons in the first place? They were the legal lords. Was he trying to unite the North?
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>>71763054
i'll fucking fight you bitch. if you're saying you're me, post a pic no one here has seen yet. go ahead, faggot. i'll wait.
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>>71762975
>subordinate kills another subordinate and mocks your sacred order to you face
>just let her leave
>based
he got cucked pretty hard
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Will you move to /trash if /got/ get banned from /tv?
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So we're all in agreement that the Children of the forest/Bloodraven are evil and want to destroy humanity, right?
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>>71763094
trash may be the most autistic part of 4chan
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>>71762961
More like royal tongue
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>>71763107
>implying it isn't /sp/
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>>71762975
because he wears the mask
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>>71763107
Who cares, no one will force you to go outside /got/ threads
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i watched the first season of the last kingdom now that this season of game of thrones is done. what an absolute shitshow. uhtred and brida are idiots.

is vikings worth watching, or should i just twiddle my thumbs until got returns?
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>>71763075
probably, and win favor with the other northern lords who lost family members and soldiers to the Boltons and Freys
>tfw you start up a crusader kings 2 A Feast for Crows scenario from time to time just to play Jon Snow and accept Stannis offer
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>>71763089
Damn... well when you put it that way... He was still based af up until when Arya got to the house of Black and White.

Also, I've been wondering this but was always too lazy too look it up on my own, but I always thought that Syrio Forel was a faceless man (Jaqen H'ghar in particular). Is he not? Am I just being dumb and assuming things?
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>>71763166
you could always try Marco Polo
it has its ups and downs but im watching it purely for Kublai Khan if nothing else
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>>71763075
Not necessarily unite, more like conquer and make them bend the knee. His end goal was the iron throne and to get it he needed support from more than sellswords and the minor houses he had backing them.

But when you think about it his plan was pretty stupid, most of the northern armies were spent during the war of the five kings and it would take a lot of persuading to make them march south again so soon after that and with winter right around the corner.
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>>71763188
No, he's not Jaqen. It's just a tinfoil theory. The greatest swordsman who ever lived was killed by Meryn fucking trant.
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>>71763188
I just started typing Syrio Forel into google and the suggestions were literally "Syrio Forel" followed by "Syrio Forel is Jaqen H'ghar" so I'd say it's one of the more popular fan theories.
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>>71762668

How did he become a zombie anyway?
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>>71763006
You're very polite, puppy. Thank you. :^)
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>>71763261
Pay attention nigga

Benjen: I led a ranging party deep into the North to find White Walkers. They found us. A white walker stabbed me in the gut with a sword of ice. Left me there to die. To turn. The Children found me. Stopped the walker's magic from taking hold.

Bran: How?

Benjen: The same way they made the Walkers in the first place. You saw it yourself.

Bran: Dragonglass. A shard of dragonglass plunged into your heart.
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Is Comfy.png poster the OG jonautist?
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>>71763261
>>71763290

>it's dragonglass, I ain't gotto explain shit
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>>71762697
most beautiful girl in the seven continents
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>>71763089
That's kind of why it seems like he had an ulterior motive the entire time. I mean why take such an interest in this random, if resourceful child?
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>>71762732
BY R'HLLOR

>>71762935
one of you please post webm with sound on some other board?

I need this for reasons that might or might not have to do with masturbating to Maisie.
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>>71763336
Pretty much. I bet they'll cure Jorah's greyscale with dragonglass too.
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>>71762975
>is
no, was.
He was fucking perfect in S2.

Now he's not only not doing much, what he's doing is boring and makes little sense (like all arya's plot).
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>>71763349
>Jaqen and the FM have ulterior motives
I wish that was the case but at this point I don't have a lot of confidence in D&D's writing
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>>71762668

My friend told me he is a white walker now?

Why does he have free will?

Is he immortal?

Does he have emotions and a sense of humour?

What are the downsides to being a white walker?
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>>71763379
>Implying those are actually the same person or that there ever was someone named Jaqen H'ghar
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>>71763373
You mean circuitry.
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>>71763244
>>71763251
Ah, okay. So I'm not the only one who thought that. It would be dope if it were true though.

Also, another question, when Arya kills whoever-the-fuck in the House of Black and White, and she starts pulling off the masks, she eventually gets to her own face. Someone explain. Doesn't someone need to die in order for their face to become a mask?

>>71763379
That's what I meant,I guess. S2 Jaqen was based.
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>>71763388
one of the theories right now is that benjen isnt a white walker made by the children of the forest, but by the white walkers themselfs.
We have seen that there are places that they cant enter because of magic, only after touching a magic? person inside they can pass it.
Now that bran is marked undead benjen comes out of nowhere to save them and get them beyond the wall.
thats why benjen had that look, when he dropped them of on the wall, he knows he is betraying his own blood but cant do anything about it because he controled by the nightking.
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>>71763331
funniest part is D&D don't even know about half of the mentioned characters/houses in this picture
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>>71763331
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>>71763429
There is no explanation. Magic I guess? The faceless men storyline isn't really all that logical when you start to break it down.
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>>71763456
You're probably right. D&D once said they forgot if Sam is even a POV character, because they haven't read the books in ages and think so much within the show now.
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>>71763429
I'm pretty sure that scene had no internal logic to it, just rule of cool. or if you really want to force an explanation of sorts, Arya was probably tripping balls.
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>>71763024
Did this ever appear in the show?
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>>71763476
>>71763491
Oh okay, so it was just there for the "omg wtf" factor, which no real meaning behind it? That's gay. I liked the House of Black and White story line, but yeah, it didn't ever make any sense.
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>>71763366
had the same idea...still to lazy to make webm. film is called "the falling" scene is close to the end
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>>71763559
.No.
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>>71763566
>so it was just there for the "omg wtf" factor, which no real meaning behind it? That's gay
welcome to the show written by D&D
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>>71762835
>that copypasta


everytime
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>>71763476
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>>71763611
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BLACK OILY STONE

FISH PEOPLE
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Reminder
Cersei>>>>>>>>Kelly C
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>>71763566
Thematically it fits. "Becoming no one" is essentially killing the person you are. So when Arya sees helserf dead it means just that: she needs to kill Arya. And I'd say that's more or less what happened, she's not the same Arya anymore. Her lust for revenge has consumed her so that there isn't really any going back to Arya Stark anymore.

And I think Dabid is aware of this judging by what he said in "inside the episode 10"
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What was the point of bringing Benjen back for two scenes?
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>>71763692
That actually makes way more sense considering the theme of the House of Black and White. But did that complete her trial? I can't remember.

What did Dabid say?
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>>71763730
a) they wrote themselves into a corner
b) fanservice
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>>71763730
hype
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>>71762975
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>>71763692
thematically it does make sense. it's just on every other level it doesn't.
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>>71763742
https://youtu.be/nRTP9SUkHl8?t=5m37s
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Saw the finale. I never had huge expectations for seeing Rhaegar physically or anything, but I never thought he'd be THAT downplayed in Jon's Parentage reveal? Barely a mention? Was this supposed to be a half reveal and they're saving him for next season or something?
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Where's my Alt-Shift-X? Preston is purestrain thoroughbred garbage
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Who is objectively the best character? Major or minor, doesn't matter.
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>>71763962
Podrick, prove me wrong.
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>>71763962
Sandor Clegane because I say so
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>>71763920
Pleb.
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>>71763962
this >>71763997
and Gendry
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>>71764006
MRA with fear of intimacy detected
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>>71763331
>sansa died in s1e1
is this an actual (insane) theory, or just some shit randomly thrown in there?

assuming actually theory, only show theory?
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>>71764023
I searched the web and couldn't find anything on that theory, probably the original OP made that a while ago and saw it in a /got/ thread
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>>71763331
My theory of Arya going to kill Sansa isn't on there.
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Is Benjen Coldhands?
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>>71764004
>>71764009
I almost agreed with you guys but then I remembered Bronn.
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>>71763730
I think their entire thought process about the show is "Why not?"

If they think it's cool and the fans will like it, they do it. Doesn't matter if it makes sense or is accurate with the previous/future scenes, they just fucking do it.
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>>71763962
Sansa, who will be Queen in the North in the books, and hopefully on the show too.

Or just queen of Westeros.
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>lyanna mormont will never be real
Why continue existing?
'
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>>71764047
unless GRRM is trying to be tricky, no.

his editor published a page where she asks him if benjen = coldhand and GRRM says no.
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>>71764099
For best Lyanna
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>>71764106
It's weird, though. There's a chapter in AGOT that foreshadows Benjen's fate as described on the show perfectly.
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>>71764066
Fuck it, they are by far the most bro tier characters in the show
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>>71764019
What?
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>>71764139
not sure what you're referring to, been a while since agot, but could it not be another NW member/another Stark?

Coldhands is almost certainly a stark NW member, just not benjen.

Was it a bran dream? If that was it, might just be another stark he took for Benjen.

Like Jaime thinking his mother is Cersei in a dream, etc...
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>>71764139
I think in the books he'll be turned into a White Walker or something. If Coldhands is Benjen that's shitty hack writing because we are told 'they' killed him long ago. A CotF would not say something like unless it was a really really long ass time ago. Also he knows the Old Tongue he basically has to be ancient.
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>>71764188
Nice jpeg compression and shitty meme theory. The original was a good image because even though some are far fetched, all have evidence from the text.
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>>71762768
Nice tattoo, did he praise the sun?
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>>71763962
there are none left. everyone with the potential to be GOAT has been turned into a meme character.
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>>71762733
Season 6 was anything but unmemorable. It had the most memorable scenes in the show so far I'd say.
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>>71763034
this desu
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>>71764200
>>71764215
Referring to this Bran chapter:

“Yoren wiped his fingers on his vest. “There’s hard news, m’lords, and a cruel way to pay you for your meat and mead, but the man as asks the question must bear the answer. Stark’s gone.”
One of the other men said, “The Old Bear sent him out to look for Waymar Royce, and he’s late returning, my lord.”
“Too long,” Yoren said. “Most like he’s dead.”
“My uncle is not dead,” Robb Stark said loudly, anger in his tones. He rose from the bench and laid his hand on the hilt of his sword. “Do you hear me? My uncle is not dead!” His voice rang against the stone walls, and Bran was suddenly afraid.
Old sour-smelling Yoren looked up at Robb, unimpressed. “Whatever you say, m’lord,” he said. He sucked at a piece of meat between his teeth.
The youngest of the black brothers shifted uncomfortably in his seat. “There’s not a man on the Wall knows the haunted forest better than Benjen Stark. He’ll find his way back.”
“Well,” said Yoren, “maybe he will and maybe he won’t. Good men have gone into those woods before, and never come out.”
All Bran could think of was Old Nan’s story of the Others and the last hero, hounded through the white woods by dead men and spiders big as hounds.
>He was afraid for a moment, until he remembered how that story ended. “The children will help him,” he blurted, “the children of the forest!”
Theon Greyjoy sniggered, and Maester Luwin said, “Bran, the children of the forest have been dead and gone for thousands of years. All that is left of them are the faces in the trees.
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The Children are actually alive so Bran would be at least half right here. And on the show Benjen says he was literally saved from turning into a wight like the others in his ranging party because the Children saved him and stopped the Walkers magic from taking hold, then he worked for BR like CH did. Seems too coincidental for D&D to pull out their asses.
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>>71762733
Season 5 yes, Season 6 had a lot of filler episodes or more like bank (budget saving) episodes, but there were also several outstanding and memorable episodes.
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>>71763383
yeah except ramsay fucked jons shit up
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>>71764316
>Seems too coincidental for D&D to pull out their asses.

They obviously knew about the theory. In the show Benjen isn't Coldhands anyway, just undead Benjen.
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>>71764363
this. it's not coincidence, they just read up on stuff and go with what's popular.

cleganebowl might or might not happen in the books but you can be sure as fuck it'll be on the show either way.

the hound isn't going there, and the mountain isn't going anywhere at all, but it's gonna happen anyway at some point.
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>>71763962
Cersei is/was the best but I fear she's become a meme character since the finale
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>>71764418
>meme character
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>>71764316
In light of the show it looks interesting. But the Children themselves say Coldhands has been dead for a long time. Perhaps Benjen is alive but is not Coldhands, and both will help out Bran and Meera when the White Walkers attack.
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>>71764418
She's turning full evil queen bitch but she was always like that, it's just she don't care anymore to hide it...
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>tfw since S6 ended I've been doing nothing but rewatching EP10 and even replaying it in my head when I'm not near my phone or computer

I'm not going to survive the next year lads. GoT is all I live for.
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>>71764875
Finally!
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>>71765077
It didnt really impact me much besides this song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFK0yG8xG5I
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>>71764418
This,but sadly she will become the heartless villain for Dany Sue can beat,it's really a garbage that her character was reduced to that shit.
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WHO OWNS THE GENERAL?
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>>71765216
the Azor Jon poster
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>>71765158
the song was really good
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>>71762768
VISERION IS NOT WHITE REEEEEE

IT TRIGGERS ME
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Aha holy shit lads I just got the azor buttstuff thing
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>>71764188
>robb warged catelyn
i love these theories so much
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MAESTER QYBURN, IM VALE ARMY
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>>71763962
Qyburn
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>tfw for a second thought that the general was no more
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>>71765365
Yeah they could have done a better job with that. Can't really tell Rhaegal and Viserion apart in most scenes, but that's partly because they get so little screen time.
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>>71763290
>Bran
Why didn't he become a White Walker?
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>Jon learns he's a Targ baby
>loses official support cause Targ as head of House Stark is a no-no, but still has personal support from all the Vale, Wildling and Northern forces
>is still king in all but name
>Sansa is made Queen cause Bran just wants to advise
>Targ Queen is coming

Please give me three good reasons Sansa wouldn't marry Jon just to fuck over Dany and keep Jon from usurping the fuck out of the North by marrying Dany.
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>>71765583
U DON'T GET TO BRING SQUIRES, MELORD
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>>71765708
Dude dragonglass lmao

You tell me.
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>>71762699
asian characters are from sothoryos, another continent we will likely never see in the show (or books desu). the asian priestess from season 5 is likely all we get.
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>liking Cersei
jesus christ, you retards would literally do anything just to be contrarian and edgy, wouldn't you?
Cersei is a shit character in the books, she's a shit character in the series as well. There is absolutely nothing likable about her - she's stupid and arrogant, yet thinks she's as smart as Tywin. Everything Cersei did only weakened the Lannisters and the Kingdom. She says she only cares about her children yet she's too stupid to realize she's the one that killed them.
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>>71765711
It's very unlikely that Jon will marry Dany (not to mention that Dany-Robbin looks better for Targ).
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>>71765767
>Cersei is flawed
>tries her dander even when the odds are stacked against her even if it was her fault

This is why she's such a great character.
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>stop liking what i don't like
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>>71762974
>yet another free help for Dany

Yeah, it's confirmed
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>>71765767
>posting the same shitty bait over and over

here's your (you), fucknugget
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>>71765767
>everyone who doesn't think like me must be an edgy contrarian

Cersei is the most complex and tragic character that currently exists in the show. She's not a good person, but she's human, and she's identifiable, without being obnoxious. She's OUR QUEEN.
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>Cersei - a crazy bitch that hates everyone, drinks wine and kills a bunch of people because she only cares about herself and her children ... for six seasons and possibly two more.
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>>71764188
>HS = HR
>level 1

WHAT? I doubt normies have a clue who HR is, even after being explicitly introduced in an expository laden scene.
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>>71765789
I'd agree and even say Jon marrying Sansa then would give House Targaryen two powerful formal alliances.

But I can't see Dany marrying Robin when she could just fly over the Bloody Gate, get right to whatever castle he's at and intimidate him with the dragons or bribe him into kneeling by offering him a ride
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Normies only likes boring and empty characters like Kelly C what a pity
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>>71765844
>kills a bunch of people because she only cares about herself and her children

Or because they kidnapped, tortured and humiliated her for months, not to mention planned to execute her, usurp her or remove her away from her family.

Cersei did literally nothing wrong.
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>>71765870
Who the fuck is HR?
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>>71765831
Holy shit how is she not an one dimensional character whose only contrasting aspect is MUH FAMILY?
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>>71765916
If you can't understand how she is a complex character, you're too dumb to even try to explain it to you.

Go back to worship your Mary-Sues at Burlington Bar.
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>>71765728
CLEGANE ?
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>>71765916
We already had this discussion. Stop being a faggot and try to use actual arguments instead of memes.

>There is absolutely nothing likable about her - she's stupid and arrogant, yet thinks she's as smart as Tywin. Everything Cersei did only weakened the Lannisters and the Kingdom. She says she only cares about her children yet she's too stupid to realize she's the one that killed them.

Here you perfectly explained why she's a good character.
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>>71765711
In the event that Sansa learns that Jon is her half cousin it would be smart to marry him asap since that would make the next heir as much of a Stark as possible. If the event that Jon wanted or was forced to be on the Iron Throne then Sansa would be his Queen.

The only problem is that Arya isn't interested in ruling Winterfell and neither will Bran since he's the 3 eyed Raven now. It's in Sansa's best interest to rule Winterfell and let Jon go to Dany.
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>reminder that Euron is the most prolific brother fucker in the series
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>>71765972
More than Cersei?
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>>71765907
Howland Reed
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>>71765916
We already had this discussion. Just live with the fact that you are a dumbass.
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>>71765957
>y-you can't understand how great she i-is

>>71765967
Only makes her a cartoon villain. The usual Evil Queen.

>>71765992
You are a dumbass.
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What are Cerceis redeeming qualities? All i can think about is her love for her children, but it's a caricature of love, there is more hate for everyone else than any good feelings in it. How she murders the women his son clearly loves is just another proof of that. She is one-dmensional, crazy cunt, that fucks up everything she touches. She never won a single battle, she never sved anyone she cared about, the only "friend" she made is a fucking necromancer, whos actual goals remain unclear.
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>>71765916
shut the fuck up,at least she is much better than Mary Sue
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When is Darkstar coming into the show? Season 7 right bros?
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>>71765972
i must have missed that scene
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Is Cercei posting a new meme?
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>>71766016
Cartoon villain would be someone who's evil just for the sake of being evil and Cersei is deeper than that.
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>>71766020
Cersei has no friends. Only pawns, including Jaime.
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>>71766060
Yeah, she is evil for power.
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the Tyrion/Cersei scenes were comfy as fuck in season 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtPtJCFbc5U
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What was the point of casting euron exactly? With only 13 hours of GoT left I don't see how he can be at all relevant.
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>>71766016
>Only makes her a cartoon villain.The usual Evil Queen.
No retard,she was never evil,is only because you moralfag can´t see nothing beyond that
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>>71765711
Jon is still the son of Lyanna and was raised as the son of Ned. His blood is still Stark blood. And why would the North care if Jon was a Targaryen?

In the books, Robb even claimed Jon as his heir despite him taking the Black.
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>>71765968
But if Jon marries Sansa anyway, they'd still rule Winterfell, there'd at best be an acting Lord or Castelan or something in the case of Dany ever dying and Jon becoming King of the Seven Kingdoms.
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>>71766020
>What are Cerceis redeeming qualities?

She calls the entire kingdom on their bullshit and hypocrisy.
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>>71766119
Cause his mom is the stark, females go after males and he'd now be a male from a female.

And his father is the dude that started the war, and if legitimized, he'd be Jaehaerys Targaryen Lord of Winterfell, King in the North and Head of House Stark
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>>71765968
Why would Jon want to marry the girl he's known as his sister since they were children?
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>>71765894
Well, in their defense it's hard when the show version doesn't do a very good of a job as the books at representing those other characters you're likely talking about in the first place.

I mean, they're all played by good actors but aside from that, just look at D&Ds butchering of Theon, Stannis and Jaime's arcs in the end. Can you really blame normies for being uninterested in Theon when they completely fucked up his Winterfell/Reek arc or to see Stannis as nothing but a villain when they had him burn Shireen and executed by Brienne?

Other surrounding characters that were lucky to even make it in get cheap deaths and not a lot of attention (see: Barristan, Roose, Doran, Osha etc.). The ones that are focused on with compelling arcs like Oberyn and Ned are done specifically because they want to trap the GA to fall in love with them and kill them off, which they do but you've got to move on at some point from dead characters. And let's not forget all the side characters that didn't even make it in, that non-normies only have the luxury of knowing about because they read the books.

When so many side characters are subject to die cheap meaningless deaths, don't get the attention they have in the books and have their arcs completely fucked in most cases, is it really normies shit taste that gravitates them to Kelly C, Jon SNUUU and the witty dwarf or just that the adaptation gives them no other realistic choices?
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>>71766097
I think the major thing you seem to be missing about GoT/ASOIAF characters (except maybe show ramsay) and perhaps people in general is that "evil" people never see themselves as evil. Even though people do vile things they always make up some kind of justification for it.
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>>71766113
>kills her chilhood friend because of a prank
>hates baby tyrion (this is an evil trait as we see Jaime doesnt)
>abuses Jaime's love, when all she could think of was Raeghar's cock
>fucks whomever she can if that has even a minimal chance of furthering her goals
>kills Ned to stay in power
>arranges the murder of countless others in intrigues on KL
>increases the power of the church with the sole purpose of fucking up the tyrells and perpetuate herself as the queen
>brings back Gregor to life as a monster to fuck her enemies home
She is not evil senpai :^)
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Daenerys is the most awesome character ever. I love her. I will fucking kill GRRM if she sees harm.
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>>71762668
does anybody know where people get the idea that there's a dragon in the wall? I've heard people say it like it's a credible theory, but I've never seen any actual hints in the books or the show.
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>>71766163
Then they're deluding themselves.
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>>71766144
Cause if he's no longer King, he has little power to do anything or get the message about the Walkers out there, everything would fall to Sansa's discretion and whim.

And with being a Targ, even most likely a bastard, with Dany on the way, he becomes a very eligible bachelor possibly high enough to marry a Queen and make a formal alliance.

And he may still have some support from the Vale and North and definitely the wildlings if Sansa's Queen, but that makes him kind of a threat to her rule and makes her weak if she just goes with what he says anyway or stupid and creates more rifts if she goes against what he says purposely, unless they're married.
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>>71762699
So what? How many asian actors are there? If more were in the entertainment industry then it would be a different matter. You can't have so few asians and still expect them to get roles when so many people wants to make it, it's simply a matter of numbers.
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>>71765297
we see you, false flagger
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>>71766207
>>kills Ned to stay in power

*to stay alive

>>brings back Gregor to life as a monster to fuck her enemies home

*to keep her safe
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>>71766207
She is a very human,cruel but realistic character.
And not to mention that in medieval times the moral was not the same as now,I'd say almost all are gray characters.
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>>71763459
But Jon and Dany are family.
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>>71766142
No, he'd still be a bastard since both of his parents were unmarried. Even if it was revealed that Rhaegar was his father, why would he rename himself when everyone knows him already as Jon and he'd always wanted to refer himself as a Stark. And don't say for political reasons, because Jon hates doing things for political reasons.

Besides, why would anyone care? Jon took the Black and was a bastard, but the lords of the North still declared him their King over the trueborn daughter Sansa. If they can ignore all that then I doubt they'd care if Jon was the son of Ned or Lyanna as long as he was still a Stark (which he is). And besides, everyone loved Lyanna.

>>71766259
Why would he no longer be King? Even if the world knows him as being the son of Lyanna over Ned, he'd still be the son of a Stark. They've already pledged their loyalty to him, and they've got no reason to betray it. Real politics isn't as rigidly legal as it's made out to be.
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>>71766264
>*to stay alive
Ned would let her and her children go back to the Rock or wherever else

>*to keep her safe
Doesn't negate she brought a monster into the world
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Cerseifags,are going to drop this when she dies?
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>>71766239
Well to a certain degree yeah. Morality is flexible, it always has been and that's what makes us human, for better or worse. If you walked up to Cersei and asked "are you evil?" the answer would most likely be no, thus she is not a one-dimensional character.
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>>71766274
>She is a very human,cruel but realistic character.
That is true if she is the height of human corruption, then I'll believe you.
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>>71766123
>>71766123
>There must always be a Stark in Winterfell.
Yeah, but who would that Lord be? With Arya and Bran not interested they would have a small pool to work with.

Unless Jon stays in Winterfell and he lets Sansa become Queen.
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>>71766318
It will be so late they might as well finish it.
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>>71766329
I don't think even Snow White's stepmother believes herself evil.
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>>71766142
>Cause his mom is the stark, females go after males and he'd now be a male from a female.
Bitch please, northmen lords ignored the fact tht he is bastard, any reason why they will's not ignore the fact that he is Lyanna's son.
>Jaehaerys Targaryen
Because..?
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>>71766311
>Doesn't negate she brought a monster into the world
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>>71766311
>Ned would let her and her children go back to the Rock or wherever else

Yeah because that would keep her totally safe lol.

>she brought a monster into the world

He's not more a monster than Dany's dragons, the Stark direwolves, Bran's Hodor, or every other man in this setting.

But because the Starks and Dany are the designated heroes, they can get away with this while Cersei is totally evul.
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So who is going to breed Olenna to save the Tyrell bloodline ?
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>>71766336
Is the human nature anon!
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>>71766367
>She is so evil, so badass, so cool
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Bradamante is a horrible human being
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>>71766377
Now you're making excuses for the Zombie Gregor, look at yourself. Not even in life we could say a good thing about the Mountain that rapes.
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>>71766381
>So who is going to breed Olenna to save the Tyrell bloodline ?

No one, Willas the NEET is still alive and capable of breeding any number of concubines as any respectable NEETlord does.
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>>71766381
me
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>>71762972

Reminder that CIA is not our guy and has been scientifically BTFO
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>>71766419
>Not even in life we could say a good thing about the Mountain that rapes.

But we're not talking about the Mountain, we're talking about Ser Robert Strong, who only acts on Cersei's and Qyburn's commands and didn't rape a thing. He's merely a giant tool, much like Hodor.
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>>71766305
>No, he'd still be a bastard since both of his parents were unmarried. Even if it was revealed that Rhaegar was his father, why would he rename himself when everyone knows him already as Jon and he'd always wanted to refer himself as a Stark.

He wouldn't have to change his name, since Jon is a fake cover name anyway like Young Griff.

His actual and factual name is Jaehaerys.

>Besides, why would anyone care?

Cause it fucks up all manners of succession and inheritance. he'd only be a cousin, from a female while ned's kids are still alive and breathing, and he'd be a fucking Targaryen and not even a Stark since this is patrilineal shit.

At least as a bastard of Ned, being an older male if legitimize you could argue if you acted like he was trueborn, he'd be ahead of Sansa, not so if he's a Targ baby, he'd be even further behind., and not be a Stark

>And besides, everyone loved Lyanna.

And people know Rhaegar started the war that killed three Starks.

>Why would he no longer be King?

His father started the war that killed three Starks, his legitimized name would be Targaryen, he'd be a Targaryen King in the North and Head of House Stark (aka wrong last name), his kids would be Targaryen and then heirs to House Stark of Winterfell, you'd have a North whose King is now House Targaryen instead of the name Stark, the Stark dynasty would be dead.
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>>71766400
YES BECAUSE I AM EVIIIIILLL
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>>71766443
You have lost sight of yourself, anon. I recommend reading Jaime's chapters again for your own good.
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>>71766419
Nutella rapes Cerci too,don´t she?
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>>71766441
>autism: the post

kill yourself.
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>>71766477
Great argument bro
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>>71766343
Could, or, since King's Landing may not even be standing soon enough and Dany may or may not survive after, he could move the seat of power to Winterfell

>>71766358
>Bitch please, northmen lords ignored the fact tht he is bastard, any reason why they will's not ignore the fact that he is Lyanna's son.

He'd be the wrong Starks bastard, and the bastard of a less reputable guy.

>Because..?

Cause Jon's a cover name meant to keep him safe, like Aegon is called Young Griff, he's really Jaehearys
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>>71766504
No.
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>>71766507
is this puppyfu?
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>>71766507

Uh oh, looks like someone's not in charge.
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So what happened to that sister who cersei locked up?
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>>71766524
Just tortured, starved, dehydrated and paraded her naked in the dirty streets. Even the Freys treat prisoners better.

The Sparrows had it coming.
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>>71766529
of course.
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>>71766549
She has tea parties with the Ser Gregor who is in charge of reeducating her. They will marry and have giant sons to serve the offspring of Cersburn.
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>>71766516
If you don't believe bringing back to a life through necromancy one of the most evil man in westeros to serve as your killing machine is not evil then you are truly lost.
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>>71766381
Olenna isn't a Tyrell
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>>71766599
Another great argument lol. Ser Gregor isn't alive, he's just a machine. He's not different than the dragons, the direwolves and Hodor, except that he has even less free will and violent urges. It's like saying that creating tanks is evil.
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>>71766459
>He wouldn't have to change his name, since Jon is a fake cover name anyway like Young Griff.
Nope, it always was his name and he is not a big Targfan.
>His actual and factual name is Jaehaerys.
Proofs?
>Cause it fucks up all manners of succession and inheritance.
They already was fucked up when Show from the Night Watch was declared as king instead of Stark.
>And people know Rhaegar started the war that killed three Starks.
So what? If Salsa will give birth to Ramsay's son none will care about it.
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>>71766633
>h-he is just a mindless drone bro
>p-please don't expel me of the Citadel
Sure Qyburn.
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