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Thread for those who've been watching cinema seriously for 5+ years and have advanced past capeshit, mainstream movies and the same old flicks.

Don't be offended, this is not meant to be pretentious, its just some of us have moved past IMDb-core, indie flicks and the latest hyped blockbuster and have more developed tastes. Do not troll or derail the thread with off-topic discussion.

What good films have you been enjoying lately?
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>>71718497
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Batman v Superman
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i hated movies for the majority of my life becasue i thought they were dumb. i have never seen capeshit or ever been to the cinemas. i've only seen shitty entry level arthouse.

what does this make me?
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>>71718497
>this is not meant to be pretentious
You have failed.
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I've been enjoying some of the cinematic classics lately, like Ultraviolet and Aeon Flux.
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>>71718497
so what are your top 5 favorite movies? and dont say you cant choose, surely with your /advanced/ taste you can least make some impressive choices
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>>71719276
That film was so forgettable, it's unbelievable prime-Theron was in it.
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>>71719276
that image makes we want to rewatch both despite the memory of sitting through both of those bloated and rotting funerals
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>>71719331
yeah, it's very mediocre.
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>>71719317
The Boondock Saints
Reservoir Dogs
Full Metal Jacket
Seven Samurai
Godfather 2
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>>71718497
Last night I watched Bava's Blood and Black Lace, seeing it restored in HD it's like a completely different film, it's glorious.

Tonight I'm going to watch Huston's The Man Who Would Be King
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>>71719398
have another
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>>71719413
>The Boondock Saints
I see, this is a ruse thread.
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>>71719413
theres no way you're OP, I'm gonna have to die laughing if you really are
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So what do you watch, NyanCat? I love NyanCat . I like the director's cut that runs for ten hours. It's one of the great classics. It's so esoteric, it doesn't even show up on imdb.com
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As a patrician I love Starship Troopers, thinking it's a pleb film is a pleb opinion, it's got so many layers.
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>>71719317
Stroszek [1977, Werner Herzog]
L'Eclisse [1962, Michelangelo Antonioni]
Mysterious Object at Noon [2000, Apichatpong Weerasethakul]
Beau Travail [1999, Claire Denis]
Battle in Heaven [2005, Carlos Reygadas]
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>>71719788
>Battle in Heaven

gtfo of this thread buddy
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>>71719788
theeere we go, thanks for the recs, OP
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I'm going to hope that at least one person that comes to this thread isn't meming

Here's a few movies I recently watched for the first time that I found interesting.

Pather Panchali - I recently picked up that Apu trilogy boxset and was pretty impressed by this. Some of it was just outright gorgeous and it has some really good features like Ray reading an essay he wrote about his problems with the experience.

The Terrorizers - Pretty great actually. Not quite as good as A Brighter Summer Day or Yi-Yi at least not yet, I've only seen it once though. May grow on me.

An Autumn Afternoon - Man Ozu knew how to use color. It's pretty impressive in just its restraint and simple beauty. I just wish ozu's movies weren't so... I don't know if simple is even what I mean. I wish they didn't revolve around these social stigmas that seem so outdated. It obviously still kind of works because the emotions are still resonant.

I'm also about to watch Children of Paradise and I'm trying to go in blind.
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>>71719185
Super edgy!
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>>71719889
Lacenaire assassinates the count
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>>71719968
>Lacenaire assassinates the count
What an absolute cunt
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>>71718497
Is this black and white screenshot from Buffy a meme or something?
Its from Buffy.
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>>71718497
Victoria and Louder Than Bombs were fantastic. i guess they qualify as indie, though. i have absolutely no idea what you mean by imdb-core.
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so movies like American Beauty (not the actual movie but the scene with the bag dancing in the wind)
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>>71720087
le 1 take. kys my dude
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>>71720142
yeah, so? that's the gimmick. give it a shot, though. i was dubious about it at first, too, and then i actually saw the film instead of acting the idiot on /tv/.
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>>71718497

Working through Peter Greenaways catalogue right now. Drowning by Numbers has had a profound effect on me. It has this entrancing dreamlike quality that totally got me.
Happiness was a disappointment. Went in with extremely high expectations. It was dark and funny and enjoyable. Hes hitting something I like. I want Solondz to give it to me harder.
Rules of Attraction was intriguing. Not sure if I enjoyed it or not. It reminded me of some Gregg Araki movies. I love when films end with a baffling blatant disregard for the closure that surprises the audience. Might need to re-watch it.
The Shape of Things is the best LaBute film I've seen thus far. He seems to be constantly toying with gender dynamics and finally he made something refined that spoke to my insecurities and affirmed my beliefs.
Full Metal Jacket was a huge disappointment. Often I hear that the first third is a lot better than the rest of the movie and that the rest is good just not as good. Well, for me the rest was completely empty. I was sitting and watching and none of it meant anything to me. I wasn't moved by the action or the horror. It all seemed very expected to me. Pauline Kael's review was on point.
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>>71720346
I don't watch mainstream media anymore
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>>71720142
Calm down autismo. Do you hate long takes from contemplative cinema too?
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>>71720368
You should watch Greenaways favorite filmmaker Bill Viola.
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>>71720370
okay, nothing really lost there. it was an entertaining enough movie but nothing life-altering. still don't get why you have issues with the technique implemented to film the narrative. it works for the story. criticizing that particular aspect is like complaining As I Lay Dying isn't worth reading because of the style Faulkner used in it.
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>>71719276
The Aeon Flux ep "Tide" had potentially one of the best action sequence motifs ever. As a big fan of that and Theron I was very disappointed with the movie.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfc-p1x8aC0

It cycles through a bunch of camera angles in a set pattern for a set time each. I'm surprised I haven't seen it done on film.
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>>71720510
>some pleb trying to compare fotm gimmick movie to faulkner

lmfao
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>>71720445
Thanks for the recommendation.
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>>71720584
Wanna try something other than memespeak?
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>>71720869
wanna try something other than memecinema?
victoria is a mediocre movie that tries to heighten its significance via a gimmick. the one-shot thing serves absolutely no narrative purpose at all - in fact, many would argue it makes it poorer since it adds lots of filler between actual sequences and throws the endless possibilities for retakes and meaningful editing through the window. it is a literal mememovie
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>>71720518
i was joking when i posted aeon flux as an example of cinema classic, which i'm sure was obvious. that said, the movie COULD have been way more interesting if were filmed and scripted more like the animated series. if they would have cut out most of the dialog, and allowed the story to be told through bold, interesting visuals instead of the hamfisted dystopic theme the Hollywood version delivered, it would have been much better.
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>>71719889
>>71720368
Some of these I haven't seen. I'm going to check these out. :)
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>>71721029
i'd say the single take actually enhances the experience and pulls the viewer in the film, as if he or she is a part of the group. it also mimics real life scenarios where moments of violence, tenderness, joy, and horror can erupt at any moment. so, yes, the one-shot gimmick does serve narrative purpose. however, that doesn't take away from your opinion that the film is mediocre. i didn't think so, but i also don't think it's a masterpiece. it's an entertaining indie flick, no more, no less.

btw, you're debating with 2 different posters, if that makes any difference.
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>/advanced/

cringed hard
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I don't know anyone autistic enough to stop watching big studio movies because they've moved past it.
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What are some good books/essays about film?
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>>71720385
the long take is used tastelessly in Victoria tho
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THIS THREAD PROVES WHY /film/ WON'T WORK
I TRIED TO MAKE A THREAD THAT DISCUSSES FILMS BUT NO, /tv/ WILL ALWAYS BE SHIT YOU'RE NOT WORTH SAVING

FUCK YOU ALL
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>>71723365
the best book for newbies is borwell's film art
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>this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCumH8LRo1A

Some genuine cringe here.
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Roll trips and I'll invite you
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>>71724141
rolling. why not. *shrug*
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>>71724141
Looking bad aeltbx
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>>71723866

The "Monsters of Megaphones" sketch that follows this is my favorite of all time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PlhJOzH0gY
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>>71724141
being on KG should be a prerequisite for posting in this thread
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>>71719788

Euphoric.
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>>71724529
this thread is not for capeshitters, kiddo
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>>71718497
I've been aggressively studying film and filmmaking since 1999. I've been working in the production industry since 2011. After a certain point you realize you don't really "advance past capeshit, mainstream movies and the same old flicks." That's fucking stupid. You watch the old shit, you seek out the obscure shit, and that eventually just makes the popular shit better. I worked 13 hours today on a fucking movie production, I don't want to watch some iamverysmart.png shit.

Eventually you reach the point where you realize that exclusively watching pretentious indies and structureless foreign movies and shit doesn't make you better.

If you're still at the point where you think it has to be either/or, you're a know-nothing youngfag and a tryhard. It's all schlock.
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>>71725126
i had a music teacher tell me essentially the same thing. in my experience, he was right and so are you.
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>>71725126
so what have you been watching recently?
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>>71725392
idk just rewatched Green Room. Watched Hail Caesar! like yesterday. Watched the 7 hour OJ Simpson 30 for 30 the last few days. Watched Civil War for the second time whilst doing shit around the house a few days ago.

There's plenty of good old and/or foreign and/or independent and/or "challenging" movies that I still haven't seen, but the way I see it, I already put in like a decade of consuming filmographies and movements and films from different cultures. I don't need to constantly watch some focus-demanding Japanese incest drama or russian depression porn to feel validated.

When I was in highschool it was probably like a 9 to 1 ratio of "non-mainstream" movie consumption. But now that shit has probably flipped. Not to mention I'll go through phases where I just obsessively study one movie for like a month. I've watched Batman v Superman like 16 times or something, because it's just that goddamn bad. It's a beautiful disaster where almost every creative decision is somewhat baffling. You can sometimes learn a lot more about what good filmmaking is by studying bad filmmaking.
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>>71725126
>>71725959
you sound like an embryo projecting his need of validation on actual cinephiles
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>>71726185
Neat. Would you like to compare spreadsheets of movies watched every year? I quit doing that shit when I actually started working but 2001-2009 where pretty busy years. Watched and logged around 900 movies a year from 2002 to 2006. I still try to watch around 3 movies a day in December and January every year. Still watch around an average of a movie a day every year. Not every one of them is going to be some avant garde think piece that fucks up your whole day.

Idk what to tell you man. It's all the same after awhile, just with different variables. Having worked on $30 million features, $1 million dollar features, microbudgets, commercials, industrials, and television shows, college productsion, etc, I'm honestly way more impressed nowadays by huge budget tentpoles. Just from a production coordination standpoint a $200-300 million movie is pretty fucking awe-inspiring, especially when it's well done.

And honestly, it's pretty fucking retarded to act like you're a "cinephile" and then talk about all the genres or contexts of movies that you don't like. If you don't like some shit just because it is new or popular, you're not a fucking "cinephile." You're a tryhard contrarian faggot.

I've almost never watched a movie I didn't appreciate or respect on some level. Making a movie is a hassle, and good on anybody that pulls that shit off. Even if the movie is dogshit, they still made a fucking movie. And that's pretty cool. It's all art. And it's all also trash. Who gives a shit? Stop putting it on a pedestal. Come and See was pretty good. So was Ant-Man.
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>>71724141
damn
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>>71726700
>Would you like to compare spreadsheets of movies watched every year
lol got eem
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>>71725126
>>71726700
if you're the same person, good on you. in the limited music production experience i have, there is huge amount of work that goes into the process. people who don't actually create and produce material have no idea. a movie production is a much larger piece of work than a music production, in collaborative terms. the amount of teamwork, artistic direction and people management is very impressive when you think about it.
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>>71724141
probably fake but here's my throwaway email anyways

[email protected]
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>>71724141
I've been trying to find 4k versions of Trash Humpers for years
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>>71718497
>advanced
>treating film like xbox achievements

Kill yourself kiddo or stick to the containment thread for retards >>71715495
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>>71724141
eyyyy
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>>71727050
Like I mostly do art department shit and set dressing is sometimes schlepping and dressing a location or a set that involves days of effort for like 40 seconds of screen time. But from any department POV, there is so much effort put in to things that "laymen" don't really register. Keeping focus involves multiple people. Lighting and flagging is a fucking art form in itself. Camera movement is often totally unappreciated. Complicated shots that might take a day to nail and sequences that could take weeks (or months) are ignored. I'm on a $1 million feature right now and its ~60 people sweating their taints off for 10-14 hours a day to make some likely-forgettable goddamn House of Cards knock-off.

Its just like with music (or really any other) production. Even if you don't like the final product, knowing the intricacies by which it's made makes it a lot harder to hate it.
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>>71727654

I'm not that guy you replied to but I agree with your prior comment. After learning the shit that goes into making a movie or tv show, I actually am reluctant to pirate or torrent anything. Hell, even the average popcorn flick I'll rent at the Redbox.

As an aspiring creator, it really does help you respect the craft more.
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>>71724740

>tips fedora
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>>71726700

I never collected spread sheets of movies watched because I'm not a fag like op
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>>71719185
So you just come to /tv/ for the memes? I'm sure you'll fit in here fine.
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>>71725126
>>71726700

You just made op look like a massive faggot and pretty much shut him down.

This thread was thinly veiled bait though I think. But good on you, you know what you're talking about. Respect.
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>>71727492

Nice argument, you sure rekt movie-anon.

Kill yourself my man.
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>>71727917
yeah, when you understand the work that's put into, it makes you appreciate it so much more. it grinds my gears when people chuckle and write you off after asking you what you've been doing, and you tell them what you've been working on...and they say, "heh, yeah right, like you work." it's very frustrating. i hardly make shit doing what i do. i only do it because i love it. it's just frustrating when not even your own family thinks your doing actual work.
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>>71719545
kek!
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>>71724141
Invite me please
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>>71728798

no becuase you're a faggot
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>>71726700
Here's my 2016 so far.

[1993] Short Cuts (Robert Altman)
[2007] Ratatouille (Brad Bird)
[1993] Trois couleurs: Bleu (Krzysztof Kieślowski)
[1994] Trois couleurs: Blanc (Krzysztof Kieślowski)
[1994] Trois couleurs: Rouge (Krzysztof Kieślowski)
[1994] Quiz Show (Robert Redford)
[1994] Regarde les hommes tomber (Jacques Audiard)
[1994] Bullets Over Broadway (Woody Allen)
[1994] Crumb (Terry Zwigoff)
[1994] The Lion King (Roger Allers, Rob Minkoff)
[2011] Jiro Dreams of Sushi (David Gelb)
[1995] Safe (Todd Haynes)
[1995] 12 Monkeys (Terry Gilliam)
[1995] Mighty Aphrodite (Woody Allen)
[1995] Casino (Martin Scorsese)
[1995] The Bridges of Madison County (Clint Eastwood)
[1995] La haine (Mathieu Kassovitz)
[1995] Leaving Las Vegas (Mike Figgis)
[1995] Kids (Larry Clark)
[1995] To Die For (Gus Van Sant)
[1995] Heat (Michael Mann)
[1995] The American President (Rob Reiner)
[1995] Dead Man (Jim Jarmusch)
[1996] Trees Lounge (Steve Buscemi)
[1996] Lone Star (John Sayles)
[1996] Secrets & Lies (Mike Leigh)
[1996] Big Night (Campbell Scott, Stanley Tucci)
[1996] Swingers (Doug Liman)
[1997] La vita è bella (Roberto Benigni)
[1997] Gattaca (Andrew Niccol)
[1997] The Game (David Fincher)
[1997] Con Air (Simon West)
[1997] Funny Games (Michael Haneke)
[1997] Deconstructing Harry (Woody Allen)
[1997] Contact (Robert Zemeckis)
[1997] The Sweet Hereafter (Atom Egoyan)
[1997] Lost Highway (David Lynch)
[1997] Gummo (Harmony Korine)
[1997] Face/Off (John Woo)
[1998] Dark City (Alex Proyas)
[1998] The Thin Red Line (Terrence Malick)
[1998] Out of Sight (Steven Soderbergh)
[1998] Rounders (John Dahl)
[1998] Fear and Loathing In Las Vegas (Terry Gilliam)
[1998] Lola rennt (Tom Tykwer)
[2008] In Bruges (Martin McDonagh)
[1998] Patch Adams (Tom Shadyac)
[1998] The Big Lebowski (The Coens)
[1999] The Insider (Michael Mann)
[1999] Office Space (Mike Judge)
[1999] The Limey (Steven Soderbergh)
[1999] Rosetta (The Dardennes)
[1999] The Straight Story (David Lynch)
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>>71730722
[1999] Pola X (Leos Carax)
[1999] Election (Alexander Payne)
[1999] Beau travail (Claire Denis)
[1999] Bringing Out the Dead (Martin Scorsese)
[1999] Todo sobre mi madre (Pedro Almodóvar)
[1999] Boys Don't Cry (Kimberly Peirce)
[1999] Sweet and Lowdown (Woody Allen)
[2000] Gladiator (Ridley Scott)
[2000] Amores perros (Alejandro González Iñárritu)
[2000] Erin Brockovich (Steven Soderbergh)
[2000] Sexy Beast (Jonathan Glazer)
[2000] High Fidelity (Stephen Frears)
[2000] Animal Factory (Steve Buscemi)
[2000] O Brother, Where Art Thou? (The Coens)
[2000] You Can Count On Me (Kenneth Lonergan)
[2000] Traffic (Steven Soderbergh)
[2001] Mulholland Drive (David Lynch)
[2001] Black Hawk Down (Ridley Scott)
[2001] L'uomo in più (Paolo Sorrentino)
[2001] A.I. Artificial Intelligence (Steven Spielberg)
[2001] La pianiste (Michael Haneke)
[2001] The Man Who Wasn't There (The Coens)
[2001] Y tu mamá también (Alfonso Cuarón)
[2001] Sur mes lèvres (Jacques Audiard)
[2001] Donnie Darko (Richard Kelly)
[2001] Gosford Park (Robert Altman)
[2001] Waking Life (Richard Linklater)
[2001] Tape (Richard Linklater)
[2002] Confessions of a Dangerous Mind (George Clooney)
[2002] Irréversible (Gaspar Noé)
[2002] Road to Perdition (Sam Mendes)
[2002] Minority Report (Steven Spielberg)
[2002] Adaptation (Spike Jonze)
[2002] Lilja 4-Ever (Lukas Moodysson)
[2002] Panic Room (David Fincher)
[2002] Dirty Pretty Things (Stephen Frears)
[2002] Hable con ella (Pedro Almodóvar)
[2002] About Schmidt (Alexander Payne)
[2002] Bowling for Columbine (Michael Moore)
[2002] Le fils (The Dardennes)
[2002] Solaris (Steven Soderbergh)
[2002] Gangs of New York (Martin Scorsese)
[2001] La ciénaga (Lucrecia Martel)
[2002] 24 Hour Party People (Michael Winterbottom)
[2003] Mystic River (Clint Eastwood)
[1970] MASH (Robert Altman)
[2003] 21 Grams (Alejandro González Iñárritu)
[2003] Matchstick Men (Ridley Scott)
[2003] Coffee and Cigarettes (Jim Jarmusch)
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>>71730743
[2003] The Brown Bunny (Vincent Gallo)
[2003] La meglio gioventù (Marco Tullio Giordana)
[2003] Good Bye Lenin! (Wolfgang Becker)
[2004] Crash (Paul Haggis)
[2004] Million Dollar Baby (Clint Eastwood)
[2004] Fahrenheit 9/11 (Michael Moore)
[2004] Der Untergang (Oliver Hirschbiegel)
[2004] Collateral (Michael Mann)
[2004] Shaun of the Dead (Edgar Wright)
[2004] Friday Night Lights (Peter Berg)
[2004] The Machinist (Brad Anderson)
[2004] Le conseguenze dell’amore (Paolo Sorrentino)
[2004] La niña santa (Lucrecia Martel)
[2004] Sideways (Alexander Payne)
[2005] Caché (Michael Haneke)
[2005] Brokeback Mountain (Ang Lee)
[2015] The Big Short (Adam McKay)
[2015] Room (Lenny Abrahamson)
[2005] The Squid and the Whale (Noah Baumbach)
[2005] A History of Violence (David Cronenberg)
[2005] Lonesome Jim (Steve Buscemi)
[2005] De battre mon cœur s'est arrêté (Jacques Audiard)
[2005] Broken Flowers (Jim Jarmusch)
[2005] L'enfant (The Dardennes)
[2005] Match Point (Woody Allen)
[2006] United 93 (Paul Greengrass)
[2006] Inland Empire (David Lynch)
[2006] Children of Men (Alfonso Cuarón)
[2006] Babel (Alejandro González Iñárritu)
[2006] Flags of Our Fathers (Clint Eastwood)
[2006] Letters from Iwo Jima (Clint Eastwood)
[2006] El Laberinto del Fauno (Guillermo del Toro)
[2006] Little Miss Sunshine (Jonathan Dayton, Valerie Faris)
[2006] Das Leben der Anderen (Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck)
[2006] Rescue Dawn (Werner Herzog)
[2006] Notes on a Scandal (Richard Eyre)
[2006] L'amico di famiglia (Paolo Sorrentino)
[2006] Half Nelson (Ryan Fleck)
[2007] The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (Andrew Dominik)
[2007] American Gangster (Ridley Scott)
[2007] Le scaphandre et le papillon (Julian Schnabel)
[2007] Hot Fuzz (Edgar Wright)
[2007] Naissance des pieuvres (Céline Sciamma)
[2007] Interview (Steve Buscemi)
[2007] Zodiac (David Fincher)
[2007] Lars and the Real Girl (Craig Gillespie)
[2007] Funny Games (Michael Haneke)
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>>71730759
[2007] Shotgun Stories (Jeff Nichols)
[2007] Bridge to Terabithia (Gábor Csupó)
[2007] Stellet Licht (Carlos Reygadas)
[2007] 2 Days In Paris (Julie Delpy)
[2007] Sicko (Michael Moore)
[2008] Changeling (Clint Eastwood)
[2008] Burn After Reading (The Coens)
[2008] Hunger (Steve McQueen)
[2008] Milk (Gus Van Sant)
[2008] The Hurt Locker (Kathryn Bigelow)
[2008] Il Divo (Paolo Sorrentino)
[2008] Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father (Kurt Kuenne)
[2008] La mujer sin cabeza (Lucrecia Martel)
[2008] Synecdoche, New York (Charlie Kaufman)
[2008] Le silence de Lorna (The Dardennes)
[2008] The Curious Case of Benjamin Button (David Fincher)
[2008] The Wrestler (Darren Aronofsky)
[2008] Revolutionary Road (Sam Mendes)
[2008] Låt den rätte komma in (Tomas Alfredson)
[2008] Vicky Cristina Barcelona (Woody Allen)
[2009] Kynodontas (Yorgos Lanthimos)
[2009] A Serious Man (The Coens)
[2009] Das weiße Band (Michael Haneke)
[2009] Moon (Duncan Jones)
[2009] Up In the Air (Jason Reitman)
[2009] Mary and Max (Adam Elliot)
[2009] El secreto de sus ojos (Juan José Campanella)
[2009] Get Low (Aaron Schneider)
[2009] Capitalism: A Love Story (Michael Moore)
[2009] Enter the Void (Gaspar Noé)
[2009] Sin Nombre (Cary Joji Fukunaga)
[2009] Polytechnique (Denis Villeneuve)
[2009] An Education (Lone Scherfig)
[2009] Un prophète (Jacques Audiard)
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>/advanced/

cringe
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>>71730776
>>71730759
>>71730743
>>71730722
And what did you learn from watching all these movies?
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>>71719788
>jibberish
We speak American in these parts.
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>>71730776
>broke back mountain
I almost thought the list was serious until I found the punchline. 7/10 bait
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>>71731323
Learn? I don't watch films to learn. I've discovered some directors that I want to delve deeper into at some point.
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>>71731744
Then why do you want to delve depeer into those directors? What's the purpose of you watching all these films?
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>>71731734
So you only watch films you think you'll like? Interesting.
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>>71731765
>why do you want to delve depeer into those directors?
Because they've made films that I greatly enjoyed.
>What's the purpose of you watching all these films?
I like watching films.
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>>71731804
What's the criterion a film should adhere to for you to enjoy it? And why do you enjoy watching films?
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>>71731734
brokeback mountain is solid, aside from the straight to tv vibe it has sometimes
j-jack i swear
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>>71724141
ez trips
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>>71724141
these trips don't lie
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>>71731323

I learnt to keep a spread sheet to show how much of a faggot I am.
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>>71731831
>What's the criterion a film should adhere to for you to enjoy it?
I don't know enough about film to be able to answer that. Right now I'm just watching a lot, going into each one with an open mind, knowing as little as possible about it.
>why do you enjoy watching films?
Why does anyone?
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>>71732134
No one should listen to me. I am a worthless, spastic mutt.
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>>71725959
>I've watched Batman v Superman like 16 times or something, because it's just that goddamn bad. It's a beautiful disaster where almost every creative decision is somewhat baffling.

Shit I might have to give it a watch.
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>>71719175
>>71719259
Fresh off the boat, from reddit, kid? heh I remember when I was just like you. Braindead. Lemme give you a tip so you can make it in this cyber sanctuary: never make jokes like that. You got no reputation here, you got no name, you got jackshit here. It's survival of the fittest and you ain't gonna survive long on 4chan by saying stupid jokes that your little hugbox cuntsucking reddit friends would upboat. None of that here. You don't upboat. You don't downboat. This ain't reddit, kid. This is 4chan. We have REAL intellectual discussion, something I don't think you're all that familiar with. You don't like it, you can hit the bricks on over to imgur, you daily show watching son of a bitch. I hope you don't tho. I hope you stay here and learn our ways. Things are different here, unlike any other place that the light of internet pop culture reaches. You can be anything here. Me ? heh, I'm a judge.. this place.... this place has a lot to offer... heh you'll see, kid . . . that is if you can handle it.
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>>71719454

DAAAAMN SON
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>>71732382
The fact I can get it to be the first half of the year and I don't think that I have a good time with the new version is a good time with the same thing to say I have a great way of life is so cute I can't even see you soon as possible and the other hand is the only thing that would have to be the first half of the year and I don't think that I can be the first half of this page to see how many people who don't know what I do it all in one day and the first place I have no idea what I do it again and I don't know how much you love it and it is not the same thing to say I have a great day to day I have to go.
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>>71718497
I don't think you know what subjective truth means. Now shoo, get out of here pseudo-intellectual.
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>>71718497
>he still watches cinema
>he hasn't advanced to kinography yet
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>>71732306
Dude was probably ready to hate it since 'not muh superman'. It's a decent film, nothing terrible like that.
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>>71718497
You don't know shit, son. There is only one way to enjoy kineomatographé.

I travel yearly on my biofuel bike to the rice fields in south korea, distribute french theater carte to the locals, and hold viewings for them after teaching them to build aesthetically correct chairs made of environmet friendly materials and bio-degradable poo. Once they are seated, i connect my bike to the magnetic tape roll, and with a great bonfire, let the light pierce the film to produce moving pictures on a wall made by blind babies using sticky rice, as I bike at a steady pace to keep the frames equal. I also provide the music, singing the approriate music in latin backwards.
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>>71724141
who needs karagarga when you make your own masterpieces
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>>71734258
It's a shit thread, made with shit intentions. You shouldn't bump this garbage.
This definitely isn't the way for quality discussions
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>DUDE I MADE MOVIES LMAO
>SO NOW I KNOW IT'S ALL EQUAL Y'KNOW, THEY ALL HAVE VALUE. ALL IS SHIT, ALL IS GREAT LOL
>I'M SO MATURE NOW
If you ever wanted an example of how you can be a pleb even after supposedly watching plenty of films but lacking the cinematic/artistic IQ for analysis and appreciation, this thread gives you a fella to laugh at.
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>>71718497
advanced past
>capeshit
>mainstream movies
>old flicks
>IMDb-core
>indie flicks
>latest hyped blockbuster
What else is there?
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>>71734373
Hello,
I am millennial guy.
Mind full of memes and irony inside.
I don't really
Feel or create anything.
My entire life is based on nothing.
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>>71719445
those 60s bava movies are gorgeous
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>>71734591
>waaaaaaah
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>>71719788
3/5 of those are good

Not bad
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>>71735944
kys
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>>71724141
good things never happen to me anyway
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>>71719557
>Starship Troopers

You know I've never seen the second or third but I do enjoy the 1st one in a weird way.

I heard the book is really great and I keep my eye out for it since I'm poor and can't buy book at retail price.
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>>71730722
>>71730743
>>71730759
>>71730776
Are you the same person saying all the pretentious shit? How does watching popular movies from the 90s and aughts make you "advanced past capeshit, mainstream movies and the same old flicks." These ARE the "same old flicks," they're just not new.

Not that you don't have a nice list, but whats the logic behind what you're watching? Like, when I was being a listfag it wasn't for newish movies. Like it'd be my Italian neo-realism phase leading into my Fellini obsession. Watched so many fucking French New Wave movies. All of Kurosawa and Ozu and that weirdly led into discovering Miike and then getting real into shock cinema or whatever with French new extremity and going back and watching all the famously dark movies like Cannibal Holocaust and Salo and all that shit. There's the Korean aughts renaissance. Like I guess if you haven't seen those movies on your list, it's good to watch them, and I guess I'm too much of an oldfag to be impressed that you obsessively watched shit from when I was like 14.

Like good on you for obsessive compulsively watching and logging, but that's like 90% popular movies made by studios and many of them were award-winning. But you don't have "more developed tastes" just because you're watching movies that were popular when you were a baby. Watch more goddamn old movies bruh.
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>>71737461
That guy is simply listing the films he watched in this year( 6 months) in answer to the contention with the other twat. Therefore you didn't need to waste so many words.
Also, most people who watch a lot and care even slightly about cinema, will/should keep lists, logs or be on a site that does that.
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>>71720368
>>71720445
saw Eisenstein in Guanajuato last night. wow, charming and splendid film. my first Greenaway. sad that's the only one on Netflix. hoping to flag down his other films soon. anyone here versed in Greenaways films care to provide a ranking?
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>>71734610
That they are. Bava is peerless when it comes to shooting indoor scenes, it's always a feast for the eyes.
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>>71724141
I have no idea what this is but I love repeating digits

check em
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>>71738346
uk or us netflix?

heard there was out1 and other gems on the us one

p jelous
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>>71724141
get trips pls
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>>71726700
>>71727654
>years supposedly spent watching 3 movies/day
>becomes acquainted with the industry
>suddenly feel protective even of the most middle of the road garbage because "muh effort"

poetry
history doesn't prize effort, it prizes quality and artistry. you've spent decades watching movies and have learned nothing about art, it seems
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>>71738797
yes, the US Netflix. btw, what is out1? and what other gems? interested in some recs.

anyone else can recommend some <advanced> gems that are on US Netflix? thanks, bros.
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If you're not on KG then please FUCK OFF
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>>71732382

Is this pasta? How long have you been here? 3 months?
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>>71724141
rollll
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Werner Herzog has some nice ones.
Aguirre, Fitzcarraldo and the documentary about working together with Klaus Kinski are amazing.
Very recently I've fallen in love with Lawrence of Arabia. I base my appreciation purely on the film; I don't really care how accurate lr inaccurate it is. Was VERY pleasantly surprised that it's not just 'Brit wants to be an Arab' kinda deal.
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>>71737781
>Also, most people who watch a lot and care even slightly about cinema, will/should keep lists, logs or be on a site that does that.
I never said not to keep a list. I was huge into keeping a list and tracking my "progress" and shit, and I still make a rough rank of all the movies released each year. I try to watch like 70-100 movies released in the year. And I keep a rough rank of them. But I'm not really into logging EVERY movie that I watch anymore. I've already seen of the notable filmographies at least once before. I'm not gonna log that I put on the king of comedy again to play in the background while I shitposted on /tv/.


And if you're doing it on one of those fucking social networking bullshit sites you're just doing an ego thing and trying to boost your gamerscore. It's not a pissing contest. You shouldn't have to be extrinsically motivated to want to watch and study movies, and you shouldn't feel compelled to constantly watch a new movie just so you can add another one to a list. I've spent hundreds of hours watching and rewatching movies that I didn't even like. What do I log that shit as? I'll rewatch scenes that I love over and over, pausing to take notes, go back a few more scenes to study how the flow of the movie leads into the scene that I like, etc. I'd have to log my movie watching like a pilot logs their flight time. They don't make a site for that.
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>>71718497

Everything about your post is pretentious
I was watching Bunuel flicks by the time I was 14 does that make me cool enough? This entire thread makes you look exactly like the people youre trying to dismiss.

Anyways I watched Snow on tha Bluff yesterday, a found footage style "hood" film and it was pretty damn good, reminded me of living in the ghetto much more than most any film I've seen. Was in the mood for a hood film after rewatching Fresh the night before for the first time in years. Highly recommend Fresh if you've never seen it totally tonally different from the slew of 90s urban dramas that became famous and one of the most brilliant and satisfying revenge films I've ever seen.
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>>71719413
Full metal jacket sucked. Still don't understand where all that hype around it came from
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>>71739890
It's very easy to understand even on a simplistic approach.
But you're the kind who says ''le film sucked", so there's that :)
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>>71739722
Fresh is great, IMO far better than anything like Boyz in the Hood, Menace II Society, New Jack City, etc

The last scene with his father gave me the feels big time
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>>71739890
eh, i enjoyed it. the film does lay on the Jung heavyhandedly, though, but i thought the latter half was quite well crafted. i also dug the structure of the film. however, the first act does get rather boring upon repeated viewing.
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>>71737461
>Are you the same person saying all the pretentious shit?

No.

>whats the logic behind what you're watching?

I watched Hugo about 4.5 years ago and I spent a while watching really old film clips on YouTube. After that I decided to something of a chronology, watching ten films from each year (more or less), starting with Cabiria (1914). Just to get a decent overview.

Now that I'm almost finished I'll be able to delve into the stuff that interested me the most.
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This is the final stage, the end of film. The coveted spurdo spärde sinema.
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>>71740060
what's that? what tracker?
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>>71740259
Spurdo Spärde Sinema Träkker
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>>71719788
that's i've-been-into-cinema-for-3-years-core, not i've-been-into-cinema-for-5-years-core
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>>71724141
is there any way of getting in KG without an invite?
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>>71718497
I like this post.
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Why do you have to make such a terrible, pathetically laughable OP if you want ''serious film discussion'' on /tv/?
Leave it to /lbg/ kids to do things in the worst way possible
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>>71730722
the oldest movie you watched is Short Cuts?
cringe
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>>71740060
>>71740259
finbytes, right?
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>>71739547
>it's not just 'Brit wants to be an Arab' kinda deal.
no, it's a blonde blue-eyed man saves the brown people kinda deal, which is much worse
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>>71740419
This year, yes.

Read >>71740052
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>>71740468
wow, actually respect, man
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>>71740419
>the fucking first line of the post contains the needed info
>proceeds to shitpost with a condescending attitude
On the /tv/ level, no doubt
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>>71739139

not him, but:
Out 1 is a very long FNW film by Rivette, about 2 troupes of actors and a conspiracy surrounding their actions. maybe THE counter culture classic of France

other recs:
The Assassin
Arabian Nights
Stray Dogs
Horse Money
Real Life
The 36th Chamber of Shaolin
The Cabinet of Dr Caligari
The Act of Killing
Fantasia
Carlos
Cemetery of Splendour
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>>71740554
>The Assassin
unironically recommending the second worst HHH
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>>71740506
th-thanks
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>>71740554
thanks, mate. wasn't aware Cemetery of Splendour was out on Netflix yet. i'll watch all of these soon. i tend to be a slow poke by OPs standards and only watch a film a week or so. The Assassin has been on my to watch list for a while now, too, i just haven't gotten around to it.
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>>71724141
who needs that shit when you have rutracker?

Private trackers are a joke.
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>>71740554
>Stray Dogs
That film was so disrespectful of former troops. Why is that so common or acceptable that troops can be shit on by cops? It happens in the film, in Sherlock, Poirot, and even Orange is the New Black. What the fuck?
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>>71740736
it's, um, fiction. everyone and everything is shat on in fiction. you've simply noticed a pattern in the chosen media you have viewed.
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>>71740886
pre-90s HHH
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>>71740610
Any film of a master director is recommendable, even when it's one of his weakest, as is definitely the case of The Assassin.
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>>71740610
what films would you recommend, mr high and mighty? remember, they gotta be on US Netflix.
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>>71724141
shoot
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>>71741000
nice, i got it
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>>71724141
>>71741000
>>71741034
don't let this fucking thread die I want my invite
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>>71741000
>>71741034
>>71741120
>this guy
lmao
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>People actually watch movies
When will this meme end?
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>>71741000
/pm invite me too
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>>71740464
That's all you took from it? It's about struggling with one's identity. It's about struggling to live up to the expectations you yourself created and nourished. Lawrence is a deeply conflicted tragic hero. To me it transcends 'Brit and Arab', 'white and blue'.
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>>71741805
>'white and blue'
Meant 'white and brown'...
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>>71718497
recently saw Big Sur by Michael Polish and dug it. good movie. the Dresslers from The National do the score. good stuff.
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>>71723495
Reposting ironic pasta isn't the /film/ way. You should come up with an interesting OP if you want more (you)s
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>>71737461

>New Wave
>Fellini
>Kurosawa
>Ozu

If the guy you were replying to was a noob then you are a beginner at best. Watch more.

Pic related, some of my favorites.
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>>71743640
What's your mubi
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>>71743670

Crimson Maples of Autumn. You have one?
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>>71743640
>hard to be a god
>letter never sent instead of Soy Cuba
Otherwise good list
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>>71743704
Yeah I have one too, rarely see people use it nowadays.
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>>71743704
>>71743747
Hmm I just realized I don't think I can search users in MUBI, wanna give a link?
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>>71743713

You were saying? I have 291 current favs, obviously a simple screen shot can't show them all.

>>71743773

https://mubi. com/users/5676174/favourites
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>>71743809
Thanks, I'll be sure to check out some of those directors/films. Hopefully they're available (at least somewhat) in public trackers.
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>>71740610
I disagree, probably my 4th or 5th favorite alongside Millenium Mambo, but thats just me. Its fine to think what you think
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>>71743939
Millenium Mambo and everything that followed 90s onward HHH is pure garbage holy shit he lost his way in some deluded hipster romanticism. Can't fucking stomach his later films. The Assassin didn't have that but didn't give me the same sort of mirror to that world as his 80s films (unfair, yes, but at least he should've tried)
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>>71743867

You can find some of them on public trackers, but I'm sure most of these can only be found on private trackers.
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>>71743987
>hipster romanticism
what does that even mean?
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>>71743987
what? what do you think about puppetmaster, flowers of shanghai, and three times? I suppose you would at least dislike the third part of three times though.

I think he gave enough of a mirror to the world with the autobiographical films and a city of sadness, and moved on to something else interesting, just like edward yang did
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>>71743987

I strongly dislike Hsiao Hsien, same applies to Wong Kar Wai. Empty cinema that doesn't say much to me, it's all pretty pictures. Tarr, Sokurov and Bartas do "contemplative cinema" the way it should be done.
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>>71744112
I don't really get how Hou is empty. I mean yes, many of his (and Wong's) films are romantic in style, but that doesn't imply pointlessness. I especially don't understand how the fairly down to earth human stories in the Taiwan trilogy are at all "just pretty pictures."
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>>71744112
I don't think his autobiographical works were empty, the 80s stuff. Sure they weren't about big narratives or greater than life stories, but as a looking glass to his youth in Taiwan I found them very good.

>>71744081
There's a really annoying worship of certain kind of life in his work nowadays, mostly present in Three Times and MM. He didn't have this aesthetic in his earlier work (nor in PM or FoS). I really fucking hate it.

>>71744183
There's absolutely nothing in his work during/after 90s, like he went from master to disaster. I guess the Assassin tried to subvert wuxia, but that's not for me.

He can still find prety shots like the other anon said it, but that's it.

Of course this is just all
>in my opinion
before anyone gets triggered.
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Lol sorry I was just kidding about inviting you guys to kg
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>>71744305
>from master to disaster
lmao

Bad opinion, you mean. But if you don't, then I do: that's a bad, wrong opinion
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>>71744305
based on those films, i find it pretty hard to believe he worships modern life, he makes it seem pretty sad. these just feel like different lookingglasses to me. rather than being self reflexive, he just now goes further outside of his own experience and culture. I understand why you dislike it, it i certainly removed from the harsher earlier work
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>>71744418
lel
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>>71744183
>>71744305

I have only seen about 4 films by Hsien and all of them were from his later period. I got so put off by his film making that I have no interest in watching his older stuff. He seems to deal with themes that I think are a bit shallow, romance/love for example doesn't interest me whatsoever, so his films just are not for me. The directors I mentioned deal with vastly deeper philosophical truths I feel, that's why I love them. It's what I look for in cinema.
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>>71744418

KG invites have been closed for ages, bro. Even PTP has reached its user limit now.
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>>71744511
>Started with late HHH.
Boy did you start with the shit end of the stick.

Should've straight up started with his 80s work to see why he was good. There are scenes in Dust in the Wind that are by all accounts similar to the Assassin wrt. to directing and cinematography. He has just been spinning his wheels for a very long time now.

And the way he deals with romance/love is pretty godawful in his late work - completely agree there. again done better in his earlier work. Some sort of sickly worship of a certain type of shallow life in MM that I just hate. I can't even think of rewatching it. That film sure cemented the shit taste in my mouth.
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>>71744542
True but if you're higher than Power user you can get them.
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>>71744305
>>71744690
>worship
he doesn't worship these lifestyles at all, he's only pointing a camera at it. you're misreading late hhh
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>>71744690

Yeah, MM was my first Hou film. LOL. Fucking hated it. Pretty pictures though.

I'll add Dust in the Wind to my to watch list, everyone deserves a second chance. Still, a brilliant director shouldn't turn to shit though, what happened to the guy? All my favorite directors have been putting great films consistently.
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>>71744738

I wouldn't invite anyone on here anyway. I invited a guy from here to CG some time ago and the fucker barely used his account. It makes me look bad. Only inviting people that I trust and know now.
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>>71743704
black girl and ms 45 are pretty damn bad
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>>71744511
Romance and love aren't automatically shallow, and I think the way he explores them in Three Times is pretty poignant. "deeper philosophical truths" can be found in all sorts of ways - what directors are you referring to? I wouldn't count romance out as a method to this (Kieslowski in Veronique, Sirk in most of his films), but I get that you dislike the genre

>>71745032
while I disagree with you about MM, keep going with the earlier work, it isn't much like it. most people don't think he turned to shit, though a lot of contemporary criticism was taken aback by the fact that MM was not a historical film, which all of his "artistic" films to that point were. current criticism is generally positive though. if you like great dramatic realism, Dust in the Wind, A Time to Live, a Time to Die, and The Boys from Fengkuei should be up your alley

good men, good women and goodbye south, goodbye are somewhere in between
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>>71744738
you can get an invite if you are power user in what.cd?
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>>71745152
no. You can only get an Invite from BTN
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>>71745173
and how do you get in BTN?
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>>71745193
6 months and power user on PTP.
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>>71745224
what would be the route from what.cd to KG?
what elite -> ptp -> btn -> KG?
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>>71745151

Directors I mentioned were Tarr, Sokurov, and Bartas. Criticism may be positive, but I honestly don't care what critics have to say. I remember a Hou film about a little kid that I think is officially one of the worst films I have ever seen. It was so bad that I can't even remember the title. I would label the films that I have seen Cannes art house bait, similar to crap like Blue Is The Bla Bla Color and shit. Guys like Tarr and Sokurov are too difficult to swallow for the typical art house crowd, HHH on the other hand is easily consumable.
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>>71745278

Suck a lot of cock and you'll get there eventually.
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>>71745391
meh, i consider blue way too genuine to be cannes bait.

you are projecting external stuff (audience perception, to some extent director's unknown intentions) on the film and that's unfair : /
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>>71745391
Such a patrician
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>>71745440
you mean like participating in forums and such?
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It's my favorite film.
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>>71745391
>Tarr
OMG LIFE IS SO TERRIBLE AND HUMANITY IS OUT FOR THEMSELVES WITH NO EXCEPTIONS! EVERYTHING IS BLEAK AND MEANINGLESS, FREEDOM IS A TERRIFYING THING TO STUPID PEOPLE, AND THE WORLD IS A COLD AND UNFORGIVING PLACE! LET ME DEMONSTRATE THIS BY HOLDING THE CAMERA ON THE DESOLATE BARREN WASTELAND AND THE PATHETIC MONGRELS WHO ARE THE CHARACTERS FOR MINUTES AND MINUTES AT A TIME AS THE AUDIENCE SHIFTS UNCOMFORTABLY UNDER THEIR GAZE! HA HA HA HA! I AM SUCH A GENIUS! THANK GOD I WASN'T PURGED BY STALIN OR ELSE I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SHARE THIS MASTERFUL VISION WITH THE WORLD! YES, YES, LOOK AT HOW SHE TORTURES THE CAT! IT IS A METAPHOR FOR THE CORRUPTION OF POWER! YES! POWER... CORRUPTION... HUMANITY SUCKS! NOW GIVE ME MORE MONEY TO FUND MY NEXT NIHILISTIC MASTERPIECE!
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>>71745457

You do realize that directors "sell out". HHH may very well have been awesome in the past, I don't know. That's why I'm going to watch Dust in the Wind. Typically if a film has been nominated by Cannes I don't like it. I have watched so many of those films and every time I have been disappointed. Those films feel so dishonest to me. That's why I quit watching them, my experience has left me sour. Where all the European directors at Cannes? Those guys have been the best for the last 2 decades at least, yet you never see or hear about them.
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>>71745594
Straight fuck off mate that's a good film that doesn't deserve that sort of shitposting
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>>71745391
I'm not saying critics should color your opinion that much. All I'm saying is that the world doesn't think he went from good to shit or anything

I also quite like Tarr, but you have to be kidding yourself if you think the typical arthouse crowd dislikes the directors you mentioned. Werckmeister Harmonies is one of the most acclaimed films of the 21st century. HHH has a similar reputation to them, though Sokurov is probably the most generally appealing for dealing in spectacle (Russian Ark).

>>71745640
Not everybody agrees without about that, thats why they aren't as cannes as much as before. good on you for trying with earlier HHH though, but awful for disregarding a film based on being in a festival
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>>71745640
I am the same guy, trashing late HHH and posting >>71745457. I just think, even if director sells out, it is unfair to not give the film a chance without the context of sellout.

And I don't really follow film festivals, yeah pleb and all that stuff. I go by what I can get in public trackers since I live in Buttfuck, Siberia.

Do you have MUBI or Letterboxd? Might post it?
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>>71745640
Childish behavior and intentionally myopic perspective. And that leads for your spouting of stupidity throughout the thread.
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So, when did you realize that the classic directors like Lubitsch, Hawks, Ford, Ophüls, Hitchcock or Renoir are the pinnacle of cinema and that all the HHH's, Lav Diazes, Weerasethakuls, Albert Serras and Tarrs aren't worth shit?
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>>71745278
well by the time you even get to ptp let alone power user there, BTN will close again for a few years. It only recently opened up again and only a few hundred spots left. Unless you know somebody you who is a really high userclass on BTN you won't get in.

You're best bet is just to be patient because eventually KG will open again and everyone will have invites
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>>71745594

So, that's what you get out of his films? I'll leave you with a quote by Tarr when he was at one of his premieres of Satantango "So ladies and gentlemen, why are you here about to watch a 7.5 hour long movie when you could be out enjoying the lovely weather."

I get the exact opposite from his films. Funny huh?

Tarr cares so much about humanity, you have no idea, you nihilistic pos. Easily the best director of the last two decades.
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>>71745752
Doesn't mean that other directors are bad, just that they aren't as good as [insert your list of classic directors]
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>>71745763
thanks mate, appreciated
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>>71745640

*Eastern European

My bad.
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>>71745787
they are bad comparatively (many of them absolutely, too)
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I never have time to watch A Brighter Summer Day

Didnt realize it was like 4 hrs long. Same with Out 1
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>>71745850
One good reason to compare Ford to Big Al or HHH
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>>71745850
Comparatively, they are inferior, not bad. But name the ones who are objectively bad by themselves. Share a laugh
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>>71745574
Its a fantastic film but idk about advanced. I first watched it in a high school music class
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>>71745890
tropical malady might be the most boring movie I've ever seen
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>>71745787

Classic directors are overrated and outdated. Much like cave paintings are crap and outdated, they are fun to look at sure, but certainly no Van Gogh or Rembrandt. Form your own opinion instead of letting the establishment do it for you.
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>>71745888
you could be rewatching one instead of the other
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>>71745963
5/10
Hard to not bite
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>>71745963
[insert thoughtful reply where you defend that you watch Lav Diaz, Serra, Weerasethakul, Reygadas and HHH because of pure enjoyment and not because of their perceived cultural value]
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>>71746047

I don't like any of those guys you mentioned. My logic is bullet proof and history shows it: the best books, films and art were not the ones that were made first, viz. classic shit is overrated.
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>>71746150
oh sorry, I confused you with the avant-teen
you're the one that lays 3.5/10 bait
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>>71746150
3/10
Getting sloppy
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Can you pedantic motherfuckers stop arguing about who has the best taste and just start sharing kino?
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>>71745693

>awful for disregarding a film based on being in a festival

Cinema as subversive art. Read it. Films are used to subvert and those released at Cannes most certainly. As I said, they feel dishonest to me, so I don't watch them. I enjoy film makers that make sincere films.
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>>71745708

My Mubi was posted here >>71743809

I'm not on letterboxd as they simply don't have a lot of the films I watch in their database.
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>>71746338
>Films are used to subvert
Cinema is a popular art
Tryhard boringcore is not in the spirit of real cinema
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>>71730722
>>71730743
>>71730759
Why don't you just get a Letterboxd?
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>>71746374
Yeh I followed you
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>>71746449
Letterboxd is a shit site
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>>71746479
t. cinemoscuck
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>>71745888
big al never made a bad movie
ford has tons of blunders
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>>71746456

This year has been a disgrace, I have watched very few films. I'm back playing fighting games and it kind of killed my time to watch films. I used to watch at least 30 a month.
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>>71746432

>Tryhard boringcore

And others find those very films the shiznnit. Opinions, opinions, opinions...

>>71746253

Concurred. Best film I have seen the last few months is Love Streams by Cassavetes. My God, it's so freaking good. Possibly one of the best American films I have seen so far.
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>>71746570
I remember enjoying fighting games in LAN parties, but never took a interest big enough to play them outside those.

Only game I play these days is dota.
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>>71746646
>freaking
Darling
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>>71746666

I don't like team based games. I want to responsible for my loss and only me. How do you deal with getting teamed up with retards?
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>>71746338
this is just one viewpoint you like, but good on you for rolling with it. as far as chinese films then, you'd probably like Yang, Wang Bing, and Liu Jiayin.

I find it pretty hard to believe that somehow HHH is insincere, even in later work, while those you listed aren't. Certainly not as severe or harsh, but not dishonest either.

>>71745752
people have time to watch both, and each filmmaker has different value
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>>71746841
git gud, no other way. once you accept you ain't better than people you flame, and that flaming is a waste of time and never has helped anyone - and start focusing on your game - you can rise quickly enough in mmr to get to good games.

you will make same sort of mistakes the 'shitters 'make, there will be shitters in enemy team to exploit too.

when i say quickly enough it is in the context of dota2, took me 2 years for 6k mmr and am probably average player.

biggest thing is that in a team game you are supposed to enable your team mates to play their best game, if you can't do that no team game is for you.
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>>71746908

You know what's odd. You obviously can't dislike a film maker because he is from a certain country, but what I've found is that I really, really do not like Chinese/Taiwanese film makers, Wang Bing excluded. All my favorite directors are either Polish, Russian, Hungarian or hail from the former Soviet block. Weird. Eastern European cinema really does it for me.
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>>71746646
I feel sort of bad for having not seen Cassavettes when I went through New Hollywood
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