Which scene is worse?
The wonder woman email scene a doubt
>>71716315
The bottom one, so poor it's not even memeable material
The Flash scene or the Martha scene are memier than the wonderwoman bit.
>>71716315
The tornado scene is excellent actually.
the email scene is weak (other than the Cyborg part).
>>71716315
Bottom
Neither. They are both excellent in their own right.
Nice try Marvelfags
>>71716315
>literally having a character sit at a computer and watch trailers for three other movies
How can people defend this shit?
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>>71716315
The bottom one 100%. It doesn't help that Godot was atrocious in every scene and they had that stupid guitar riff every time she showed up as wonder woman. The worst moment by far though was the Khal Drogo actor looking for half a minute into the camera
>>71716396
>be me
>watching BvS for first time
>this scene
>instantly think of laughing evans
>immersion broken
fucking memers ruin everything
>>71716364
wrong logic; worse it is, the easier it is to meme
Email scene. I don't usually mind when a movie tries to tease other movies in a subtle way(most of the Marvel stuff), but this was anything but subtle
>>71716454
This
>>71716375
>The tornado scene is excellent actually.
>>71716425
>>71716452
BvS Luthor probably normally keeps his pee in jars.
>>71716431
this
>>71716454
>they had that stupid guitar riff every time she showed up as wonder woman.
That was my favorite part, everytime that music played, i crossed my arms like I was Wonder woman.
>>71716425
>>71716513
Genius.
OP BTFO
>>71716315
hardmode: add the martha shit
it's close but introducing the JL through email is the worst fucking thing ever, up until then I was disappointed with the movie, during that scene I knew DC cinematic had died before it even started, I mean wtf, zero excitement about seeing the others just rolling my eyes and getting fucking angry
>>71716452
pee pee poo poo
>>71716588
>Suffice to say, there’s was always more depth and subtext to the “Martha” moment than the complaints are willing to admit or recognize, and those complaints are still too simplistic and shallow a perception of what is, in fact, a complicated convergence of character arcs and narratives. It confuses and shocks Batman, and then the revelation of what’s really being said shifts his perceptions to the point he now sees himself clearly for the first time in years. A singular moment, a revelation that turns a character’s understanding and relationships on their head in a split second, is not a new concept, nor is this the first or most extreme example of such a thing in cinema.
>It’s undeniable that there is much more happening in that scene, and in the context of Batman’s character through time, than the memes and jokes recognize — and yes, often the jokes intentionally overstate things for humorous effect, but I’ve seen the exact same points made in supposedly serious, deeper critical analysis of the film. So I remain perplexed by the stubborn refusal to consider and acknowledge that complexity. I bring that up only because I notice even a lot of the positive reassessments still point to the “Martha” moment as a major problem in the storytelling when it’s among the finer elements in the film’s characterizations.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2016/03/22/review-batman-v-superman-triumphant/#ecd04513cbdd
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhughes/2016/06/28/review-batman-v-superman-ultimate-edition-expands-story-and-wins-praise/#261b16866225
>>71716588
>Implying that the purpose of that scene was not to tastefully show the audience that Batman now sees Superman as a man with a family and not some alien invader.
Martha' is set up in the opening scene with a Citizen Kane homage that establishes the word as Bruce Wayne's 'Rosebud'. But, as it's actually spoken by the father character, you get a complex series of associations where Bruce suddenly sees Superman as a father figure, who then - when Lois intervenes - morphs into a reflection of himself. You also have this strange fear of motherhood with Bruce as he dreams that Martha Wayne returns from the dead as a monstrous bat (that metaphorically gives birth to Batman), but then he resolves himself to saving Martha Kent - who was, of course, labeled a 'witch' for (again metaphorically) giving birth to Superman.
>>71716567
this is what normies actually say on YouTube comments etc
for fuck sake.
Wouldn't she already know about the Atlanteans anyway? It's confirmed the Atlanteans and Amazons know about each other in JL and have fought alongside
>>71716983
Fact of the matter is we don't know ANYTHING about her
>he haff muh photo
>omg is muh photo
>look at speedboy, metal boy and fishman
>i must go
>wait I must stay
Nothing in her "acting" conveys what mostly amounts to fucking guesswork based on BTS stuff about her movie, she was in WW1 and between then and now she stopped being wonder Woman, still had time to fly around the world and buy pretty clothes and drive fancy cars though!
What was wrong about the scene where he says Martha?
I can reach a couple of things based of what I suppose Batman is supposed to be from comics, but within the movie I don't see a problem.
Am I ultrapleb, and if so, why?
>>71716731
>Mark Hughes
>I write about films, especially superhero films, & Hollywood.
>'Captain America: Civil War' Wins Crown For Best Pure Superhero Movie
>'Chi-Raq' Is The Year's Most Relevant Film
>'Jessica Jones' Is The Best Show On TV
>'Fantastic Four' Is Flawed But Acceptable Reboot
>Supergirl is bright, fun, exciting action-adventure television with a heart and a brain. As superhero television continues to grow and improve, this show is yet another leap forward for the genre and a welcome addition to the DC catalogue.
>I’ve seen The Force Awakens, and now I’ll never experience that moment again, witnessing the rebirth of a mythology as original heroes return and every adult in the room becomes a child again. I envy you, because you still have this moment waiting for you.
>The Danish Girl is a beautifully presented personal story with probably the year’s finest lead performance, and it is another significant step forward for transgender representation in mainstream cinema and society.
Jesus Christ
>>71716425
>>71716513
>>71716811
correct
>3 years and Marveldrones are still making MoS threads.
>BvS: most discussed and controversial film on the internet in recent history.
The haters are unknowingly giving it the attention it deserves, and powering the film's defenders. Fascinating phenomenon, it's like the kino version of the Baneposter/Hothead relationship. BvS haters literally can't stop making BvS threads.
At this rate the film will cement its classic status in no time.
>>71717327
this is exactly what I don't get. out of all the BvS threads that have dominated the catalog since March I have yet to see 1 anon explain why the parts people parrot are shit are really shit. yet the same parts they are mocking get broken down and literally spoonfed the meaning of to them and there is 10 times out of 10 no rebuttal to be found.
>it's a marvel nu-male thread.
There is literally nothing wrong with the Jonathan Kent scene. Only autists have an issue with it.
The e-male scene is pure WB mandate. At least Snyder shoves it all in one scene.
>>71718015
johnmackinrow.gif
>>71717966
I have to admit that's a pretty good tactic, but it doesn't change the fact that this retarded shit is so retarded it would be fucking RETARDED to explain it, if you're this autistic and retarded you need this shit explained, you need to fucking kys you retarded cunt
lol at all the autistic copy pasta too, DC apologists are the most retarded faggots of the decennium. Good job guys.
>>71718124
Truth is,
I love seeing butthurt reactions.
I also love the movie but couldn't care less what other people think of it, but it's funny to see these people make the same complaints and get the same explanations (some autistically detailed on purpose), and see them rage some more and make another hate thread.
If anything the film gets more exposure, and it's easier to convince people to like it than to hate it.
>>71716452
That scene was weird as fuck. A senator starts stuttering because Lex Luthor put a jar of piss on her table.
Honestly the more autistic retards that post hate threads the better as it exposes how utterly moronic their """"criticism"""" are
Wonder Woman checks her email.
Stop invincible son was stupid, but still dramatic.
reminder the reason Clarks dad didn't want him to say him is because he has superpowers as well.
The dream sequence was far worse.
It had the worst editing.
>Character on computer looking totally awake and focused.
>Cut to same character in a warzone
There was nothing to signal a change of scene.
He should have closed his eyes or something
And let's not forget the main fight where Batman reacts like a little girl multiple times
>Superman resists his punches
>He starts to shake and put up his hand like he's goin to apologize
Or
>Superman says Martha
>Batman starts to sperg out
>Practically rocking back and forth twitching
Anyone that still gives a fuck should make a summation of all the stupid fucking scenes to counter the trolls copy pasta, the only problem is, there's a character limit on 4chan lol
>>71718511
>implying that isn't the most accurate portrayal of batman on screen ever
Batman is a fucking psychotic loon who gets triggered at the mere mention of MUH PARENTS
The bottom is literally an advertisement for future movies.
It's fucking insulting.
Marvel at least puts it after the credits.
>>71716431
I love what snyder did with his cape shit mandate. Bvs was powerful and filmed like a fucking noir. But studio influence exists and they pay the bills so bam embarrassing scenes of batman shilling for future franchise instalments. I thought that was bad until i saw that they thought putting a bullshit monster in the movie was a good idea. Just wtf, and then wonder woman holy shit I felt embarrassed for everyone involved at that point. It was so damn good up to the last 40 minutes (I've only seen the ultimate edition). Even the funeral was pure kino. Btw Luther going insane was stupid, he was an excellent antagonist up to that point. A genius tech billionaire with daddy issues and a solid plan (silver bullet counter measure to control super man).
>>71718579
>>71718711
this, the third act ruins this movie so much.
Bottom, no discussion. Absolutely hamfisted "look w-we can into interconnected c-cinematic universe too h-haha", Gal's acting not helping either.
>>71718711
>a solid plan
>create Doomsday to kill Superman
>monster with no mind, just urges to destroy
His intended goal was for Doomsday to win.
Then what?
Now you have Doomsday and no one who can kill him.
The only way the world is in a better place is if Doomsday fails
How is a plan good when the only good outcome is where it fails?
>>71718915
what acting?
>>71718891
kek'd
probably Spider-Twink
>>71718989
I meant before that. When he's selling the idea of creating a silver bullet to the government in return for access to the crash site and alien remains. That was A OK made perfect sense amd was in keeping with character and what pyruvate corporations and governments do in secret. Then suddenly he's mental, decides to rustle up a bullshit cgi monster for no good reason and ends up in prison where he boasts about being declared legally insane. The whole thing reeks of script changes from studio because they realised snyder was making a film for adults, with actual themes and excellent cinematography
>>71719217
>The whole thing reeks of script changes from studio
Gotta disagree with that one.
An end fight with Doomsday seems like one of the first things that would be decided on.
Movies like this have the big visual moments decided first, then have the story threaded between them in order to make sense.
It's just that that thread chosen to explain Doomsday was really weak.
tornado scene is more powerful than any scene in the MCU
Reminder
>men are brave
What did he mean by this?
>>71719300
Maybe, maybe not but either way it was utterly out of place with the rest of the film. Plus it was shit, made no real sense and had fucking wonder woman in it.
>>71719477
It's dialog from the guy who also wrote Call of Duty: Black Ops 2.
>>71716425
what pretentious overly-important garbage
>>71719428
Reminder
![giphy[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/hnvrnpN.gif "giphy[1].gif")
>Luthor created each hero's symbolic emblem, accompanied by a short intro trailer for each hyping up how cool they are
>>71719550
Snydered
STOP, MY INVINCIBLE SON
>>71719693
the man can't even put together a coherant thought
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD3byJxc9Vc
but of course, please tell me more about how deep and philosophically sophisticated he is
What kind of gobshite thinks opening a bunch of emails is an acceptable origin story for three fucking characters?
I remember someone on here saying that was only there to save time and it would be better in the three fucking hour version.
It was still there. kek
>>71720082
It should have been an after credits scene.
Just a teaser for the real reveal.
But being part of the movie proper is such a waste.
And it also ruins the pacing of the movie.
Some serious shit is going down
Cut to Wonder Woman opening some emails
>>71716452
>mfw snyder actually put a jar of piss in a big budget movie
>>71720199
They don't want to do after-credits scenes because of the comparison to Marvel. If anything, you cut out the e-mails and instead have Batman and Wonder Woman approach each JL member after he shows off his powers at the end of the movie. There would be Batman monologuing over this and still end on Superman's coffin, but no shaking dirt.
What was WW EVEN doing in the film?
She was quite literally shoved in.
>>71720379
>They don't want to do after-credits scenes because of the comparison to Marvel.
They should stop being coy and just be like "Yeah, we're trying to be Marvel".
It works. Use it.
>>71720199
>It should have been an after credits scene.
A real film wouldn't do that.
>>71718370
>you now realize the senator has a piss fetish and was stuttering b/c she was so turned on imagining Luthor soaking her tits with his girthy fire hose
>>71719477
b/c they have to contest with the threat of death yet they still act heroically. superman is invincible and only does heroic shit so he can get pussy. in the end superman proves him wrong though its pure kino poetry
>>71718989
http://www.manofsteelanswers.com/lex-luthor-explained/
>>71720367
2deep4u
>>71716506
The tornado scene is entirely in keeping with Jonathan Kent's character as established by then - he'd rather sacrifice his own life than live to see Clark effectively give up his own by revealing his powers. It also sets the stage for what Clark was doing with his life before Zod showed up - saving people from disasters, because he didn't save his father.
>>71721788
It's ok for Jonathan, but Clark should have saved him anyways.
>>71716375
>The tornado scene is excrement actually.
ftfy
>>71720550
Seriously
>>71722246
She really wasn't. She comes out of left field from hiding because of the circumstances that arose thanks to Superman's birth.
She contributes by reminding Bruce what cooperation and trust means:
>Boys share too.
Her arc is coherent and relevant to the plot, it also foreshadows future heroes stepping away from hiding.
Pa Kent
Wonder women scene is just a plug for future movies.
>>71716811
>the same mentally-ill DCuck posts this damage control copypasta anytime someone makes fun of his shitty "MARTHA" scene
>>71722702
"You're letting him kill Martha. Find him. Save Martha."
Gunman shoots Thomas Wayne, who collapses. Gunman then puts the gun to his mother's head. "Get up, Dad! You're letting them kill Martha!", Bruce thinks. The Gunman fires. Martha lies there dying. As the Gunman runs Bruce is faced with two competing desires - "Find him" (the gunman) and "Save Martha".
Superman pretty much spoke Wayne's exact struggle right at that moment. Bruce gets triggered because he is still severely mentally scarred and needs clarification. He has been having twisted dreams and I presume that he suspects he is going insane. but Lois comes in to clarify.
Bruce is then forced to face the reason why he became Batman all while preparing to KILL a man going through the same dilemma that Bruce did back in the alleyway. Superman has a mom who will die soon and the son is helpless to save her. It is that night in the alleyway all over again.
Except this time it is Bruce who holds the gun.
>>71718989
I believe he thought that because doomsday had his blood that he would be able to control it. He seemed surprised when doomsday tried to punch him.
>>71716315
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>>71716315
top, every time
>>71716375
Cyborg was too long
>>71722984
nah them niggas just gay and the movie sucks and you suck for liking it
>>71724174
THAT BROAD FROM THE FAST AND FURIOUS IS FUCKING JEW, GET DA FUCK OUTTA TOWN?!?!?!?!??!?!?!
>>71716811
>show the audience that Batman now sees Superman as a man with a family
>Batman quips about Superman's parents not even 5 minutes earlier
>>71716983
>It's a "Gal Gadot stares at a computer pretending she can emote" episode
>>71719428
>No Sam Ramie
>>71716315
Its tough. I want to say the Lex Luthor files, because tonally, its so off from the rest of the movie.
>suddenly, high tempo bass drum beat to do a shitty JL theme/intro to all the JL characters, which felt like a trailer inside a movie
at least Johnathon Kent's death was tonally sound, and a half-assed attempt at having something out of Clark's control (his fathers wish to not have him expose his secret).
Both shit, but at least MoS was less shit in regards to your point.
>>71716425
This annoys me because it treats a very simple idea about a character that has already been done and done better in the comics like it's some sort of amazing thing. Parents aren't perfect, holy shit!
>>71721287
>>71716513
>>71716425
This is the most autistic thing I've ever seen. Even worse than that anon that kept a slave under his bed on /b/.
>>71725297
could you be more of a /b/tard?
>>71725404
You know that thread was 5 years old, right?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10685839
Bruce...please. I was wrong. You....haaave...to..listen....to..me
*Augh oh no i've stepped into his sound trap and now must fight him to the death*
>>71725584
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoUSLNyOTUg
>>71719477
that superman cant be brave because he is strong that he cant really fear
>>71725236
It was basically a post-credits teaser that was put into the middle of the movie for no real reason.
Fuck that's tough. Both are mega shits.
>>71720550
To be stronk and make fuck me eyes at Bruce.
>>71725746
>product placement in their own promotion material
what the fuck
>I must convince Batman to help me save my mom
>By beating the shit out of him and forcing him to get desperate while providing no explanation as to why I'm even here.
>>71716315
both are great
>>71726081
Seriously, what's the explanation?
I understand Batman going apeshit on him.
But there are several times on the fight where Superman is far from him and he makes a frowny face and flies to attack him. Why not just say "I'm being forced to do this. Please help me. Luthor is behind everything"
Like, we see Batman is able to save Martha in the timeframe that Luthor has given them.
If Superman just asked him from the get go, he'd be able to save her.
>>71716396
He was weakened by kryptonite. its not hard to follow. holy fuck
>>71726149
The entire scene really did anger me because it was the dumbest I've ever seen someone write Superman. I don't even mean dumb as in "i don't like this therefore its stupid" I mean dumb as in Clark Kent is literally an idiot. He wasnt affected by any of Bruce's attacks yet kept responding with escalating force and flinging him around like a plastic toy while saying "hurr you don't understand". He doesn't understand what? Maybe he'd understand if you fucking just told him.
The entire reason behind the inevitable fight is such bullshit.
>>71716425
>there are faggots who actually dont force long posts to wrap
>>71716364
That's where you're wrong senpai. The email literally says 4u CIA
>>71716315
At least Stop Invincible Son was an attempt at emotion. I mean, it was ham-handed and embarrassing, but it was clear that we were at least supposed to feel an emotion here.
Wonder Woman Checks Her Inbox was literally just an ad for the sequel in the middle of the first movie.
>>71721234
the fact that you need this shows just how shitty the script was
>>71726522
Do you think Snyder browses 4chan?
I bet he hates Reddit as much as I do
The character assassination of Johnathan Kent is one of Zack Snyder's most heinous cinematic crimes
>>71728260
its all way back to Steve´s words on Civil War... "we try to save as many people as we can, sometimes it doesnt mean everybody... but we dont give up" it means you cant save all the people in danger, even cap knows the struggle
>>71728060
I understood it just fine. But it's easier and faster to spoonfeed plebs that way.
>>71716315
The bottom one because Costner is at least capable of acting and emoting on screen. Gadot looked like a stand in.
>>71728429
MCU Captain America is a better Superman than Snyder's Superman is.
>>71725297
>Most autistic thing on 4chan
>Not that autistic stalker who was stalking a tripfag on /sp/ and made a 60 page manifesto and had "their" lives and everything planned out
You fa/tv/irgins think some Reddit GoT shit is autistic, you have no idea what true autism is.
>>71728793
I'm a /sp/ trip that's in the HoF bro. I know about the UTV stalker. Snyderbots are even more autistic than that. Even more autistic than someone bragging about being in a shitty HoF.
>>71718891
isn't that the same issue where Clark gets him Mask of Zorro DVD as a present? What a fucking dick
>>71724174
Reminder this is why /pol/ gets triggered by slim Israeli's
>>71728653
Gal gadot was the best thing about that bottom scene.
It's fucking aquaman that was painfull. The scene could have worked if it was just the security cam of the flash.
>>71726232
look at this retard
>>71724174
>ashkenazi
>kenazi
>nazi
>wat
>>71719300
He means that the story justification for doomsday probably made more sense and was tampered with, not the idea of have doomsday.
>>71724174
The fact someone bothered to make this for a beauty pageant women from Israel always makes me chuckle.
>>71724174
u sure about that ?
>>71729536
are you 12?
>>71716315
>Boys share too faam XDDD :laughing emoji face: :)))))
What did Batman mean by this?
>>71728684
this
>>71716315
Batman crawling really fast on the ceiling was by far the worst part of BvS.
I like BvS, but holy shit I can't fathom what they wanted to say with Pa Kent scene.
and I don't really have issue with Wondy checking out that she got her picture.
>>71729270
But Gadot was the worst thing about the movie. Her smug face and broken English are burned into my mind ever since I saw BvS.
Gal Gadot has worse hairline than Henry
Reminder
>>71718015
*places hand over heart*
*draws head back*
*laughs*
>>71734425
kek
>>71734466
>Nolan and Snyder not reddit
anon I....
>>71734538
BvS and TDKR are best cape kino ever made lad
True /tv/ kino
>>71721833
No. He respects dad, and also believed in him, and he couldn't do that without being spoted, that's not CW's Smallvile where he is litteraly invisible at superspeed.
Remember though that the whole scene was a TALE he said to Lois, not the actual how situation was.
>>71721788
Finally someone here **watched** this movie.
>>71716315
wonder woman e-mail.
at least the silly pa kent scene lead to some development for Clark.
The top is a huge reveal about how Papa Kent used to be a a soldier in Nazi germany. He did the nazi salute to teach Kent his final lesson: that not everything is what it seems to be. A bystander will think that it's a kind old man who risks his life to save a dog's, but the truth is how he's going out with a boom after a lifetime of crimes as Hitler's personal assassin. Kent's acknowledgement is his acceptance to his own fate: his heritage and upbringing wasn't pure and ideal, but what mattered was that it worked. It builds up all the way to the ending where he snapped Zodd's neck - Superman has now matured from an idealistic hero to a more practical person.
In BvS it's even more apparent - his veil of a manly, handsome superhero is falling off as we begin to see him balding. Superman is, after all, a man. He's Snyder's reminder that superheroes are among ourselves, and the only way we can shine like superheroes do is to overlook our own flaws.
>>71729475
Иди нaхyй, чмoшa.
>>71716811
This is literally below highschool levels of writing.
Fucking hell I hope I don't have to deal with this in teaching, because literally 90% of what you said is assertion. Just word pasta salad to deflect criticism.
>>71734466
Scott Snyder LITERALLY posts on reddit. He's an actual redditor. Come on, anon.
>>71734538
Bro, fuck. Off. Back. To. Reddit.
>>71734594
reddit's a decent enough website.
website wars were old already in 2006 when b did raids to somethingawful
dr pavel im jew
womder woman wow really makes you have a thought
>>71734594
Oh he posts on reddit? Like yourself? I see
>>71734521
perfect batman and superman ruined by meme directors and a terrible wonder woman. it's a shame because we could have had an amazing DC universe.
someone shop Bridget Regen in that pic.
>>71734566
What does him respecting or believing in his dad have to do with anything? If he couldn't rescue his dad without superhuman speed, then why did his dad think he could make it to the truck and back in the first place? Why did his dad risk his life for a dog in the first place? If his father believed an old man could rescue the dog without superpowers, why not send Clark in the first place? What lesson is this supposed to teach Clark? "If your life's in danger, don't rescue people?" Yes he COULD have been spotted, so what? He's supposed to be a hero. Not just any superhero, but the most pure-hearted and brave.
>>71734615
Yes, we are both redditors. As a redditor, I am fond of Snyder's reddit-approved films. He posts on reddit just like me, because we both love reddit so much.
>>71734466
is this a parody? those are all reddit's favorite directors.
a sad state /tv/ is in
>>71734628
Don't forget the horrific Lex Luthor.
>>71734664
and cave troll doomsday
it's like they're purposely fucking everything up
>>71734711
The Doomsday fight was stupider than any CGI bullshit in the Avengers you people claim to hate so much. It was filmed nonsense. The decision to have all those random lasers flying around like some sort of autistic strobe effect is literally the opposite of art.
>>71734664
You mean the best movie Lex Luthor
>>71734711
Yeah. Why did Doomsday need to be a 12' tall cave monster instead of a grey, spikey Hulk? How could they fuck up such a simple design?
>>71734744
what annoyed me is it was all blurry CGI jumpcuts
but even if that didn't annoy me, the fight itself was bland as fuck.
atleast with Marvel you can see what's happening and it lasts for a good while.
>>71734758
you mean The Riddler
>>71734917
Hey diddle-diddle, time for a riddle!
Why didYOU SAY THAT NAME?
>>71716365
GIT R DUN
>>71728684
>kills people with guns
>better superman
total retard.
>>71728684
>Captain memerica is better than any Superman
In what,being a virgin?
>>71734895
>complains about blurry cgi jumpcuts
>acts like marvel doesn't fill every single action scene with them
are you retarded or trolling?
They literally stopped the movie to play teaser trailers for upcoming movies, complete with logos for the heroes.
A dumb death scene just cannot compete.
>>71735403
I could see everything happening in Civil War, Ant Man, Age of Ultron to name the latest.
>>71735403
They don't though. The aircraft hangar scene was completely legible, even if it was mostly two characters running at each other. The Russos know how to film an action scene,
>>71735504
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlEQO43zNYU
some of the shittiest blurry cgi jump cuts ever shown in a flick.
bvs has a minute long long take tracking shit, meanwhile takes during action scenes in marvel flicks last an average of 2 seconds.
>>71728429
the idea is the same but Snyder's execution is shit
>>71735616
Milhouse is not a meme, stop posting this.
>>71735545
all they do is blurry jump cuts with terrible cgi. they're absolutely awful.
>>71735584
Try the airport scene.
Also they deliberately cut the opening fast and shaky to contrast with the later fight to come.
>>71735662
>they deliberately made it terrible.
[Guitar Riff Plays]
>>71735584
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST THIS IS HORRIBLE
The amount of cuts and indistinguishable choregraphy+architecture (where everything is and goes in the set)
Easily worse than anything in BvS
>>71735749
No, they deliberately made it a different style. You not liking the style doesn't mean it was terrible.
>>71735662
>Also they deliberately cut the opening fast and shaky to contrast with the later fight to come.
mate that's no fucking excuse. go watch bay cut it fast in P&G, you can still track the set piece and the action is clear (same with 13Hours) or go watch the first Bourne where it is used as a POV pointer.
That Civil War trash is just that, trash.
>>71716315
Oh god.
Stop Invincible Son or Mid-Movie Trailer Montage
If you cut everything to do with Wonder Woman out of the film it would be much better.
>>71735610
>>71734466
What does it mean when I love Nolan but hate Snyder?
>>71735584
I can see everything happening in those scenes. And they're good action sequences.
The video is also chopped up in some parts to avoid copyright.
Even if what you provided was solid proof Marvel are shit too, then fair enough. That doesn't stop BvS being absolute junk where you cannot see anything. And even if you could see things in BvS, the scenes are absolute garbage.
>>71736357
That you're like me, a member of the equites.
>195 replies
>104 posters
>3 years
>3 months
>still mad
>>71718370
Ok in all fairness tho realizing that Jesse Eisenberg pissed in a fucking jar and somehow left it on your desk would definitely fuck up your train of thought
>>71718370
How do we know it was Lex's piss?
>You want me to do what in where, Mr. Luthor??
>>71718370
she fucking drank it you mongo
he was threatening her whilst she said that monologue about granny's piss, she was set back.
>>71736644
>randomly kill her off
Why?
>>71719676
undertared post
>>71719676
In all fairness he does seem to be a full on autist in this version.
I like imagining him making little "pew pew" noises under his breath as he cuts together their footage to Linkin Park for his youtube amvs
>>71736657
If Jimmy was expendable, what made you think Mercy wasn't?
>>71736657
cos it's a stupid fuckin movie
>>71719766
Being a clumsy public speaker is very commonly associated with being an artistic genius (and I'm not even memeing)
Not saying that Snyder is necessarily a genius, but just because he sounds like an idiot sometimes doesn't mean he isn't smart.
People who are that fluent in another language (visual, music, code) often come off as aspies when they try to speak ours.
>>71736709
Case and point: John Carmack. His Quakecon talks are fucking insane.
>>71736657
>implying she isn't a clone
>implying Lex doesn't have another Mercybot ready to tend to his every need much like Oscar Isaac in Ex Machina
>>71736748
Carmack's a computer programmer. His genius is expected to be on the keyboard, not out of his mouth.
Snyder is in a profession that relies heavily on him communicating to others what to do and how.
>>71736359
>marvel fanboy retard who likes infantile quipfest trash with horrible 'action' sequences that are nothing but terrible cgi and excessive jump cuts to hide the garbage choreography.
>>71721788
All he learns from that is that it's better to let people die than risk someone finding out you can move slightly faster than other people
It's retarded from top to bottom
Superman shouldn't be afraid he's going to get found out (by literally one person) so much that he's willing to let people get murdered by the wind
>>71736644
>profuselysweating.jpg
>>71736771
>horrible 'action' sequences that are nothing but terrible cgi and excessive jump cuts to hide the garbage choreography.
Doomsday.
>>71736794
nothing in the entire marvel catalog is half as good as the warehouse fight scene.
>>71736770
Yes, but primarily to communicate visually.
I wouldn't be surprised if he is a slight autist actually... he grew up reading shitloads of comic books and storyboards every single fucking shot for all of his movies.
He has to be a little insane.
>>71736644
What a waste of a hottie
>>71736804
No, you don't get to dodge this with "but other scene?".
Read what you said, and explain the climactic action scene of BvS.
>>71718370
She also just learned that he's a man who pays to have people murdered regularly if you watch the ultimate edition
>>71736794
>excessive jump cuts
>garbage cinematography
Neither of those would describe the Doomsday fight. I could see saying there's too much CG, but that's really all you've got.
Marvel babbies really have to admit that Snyder runs circles around any action scene they've ever had.
And before you say Winter Soldier please watch that fucking movie again. All of the fights are well choreographed but the Russos just covered them with 4 cameras operated by ACs with Parkinson's and cut them together in post.
>>71736867
The Doomsday fight is shot like shit.
>>71734598
Reddit loves Nolan more than anyone.
>>71736891
Wasn't asking you.
>>71736644
Why am I so attracted to her? Normally I don't go for rail thin chicks.
>>71736855
i don't see any jump cuts retard
>>71716315
I don't know what the bottom one is about. plz explain.
>>71736880
Compelling counterpoint.
Care to elaborate?
Everything is framed nicely, no shaky cam, and the action actually flows together. I too wish Doomsday weren't quite so CG, but that's really the only way to realize a character of that scale and power.
DC fans really do only have the two points they go to every single time. I'm not even in support of the other side, I just notice how lame the retort is every time, especially when it's not like the opposite is actually true for their films.
>>71736912
I don't think the person you're talking to actually knows what a jump cut is.
>>71736644
>>71716315
CIA WW WATCHES FAKE JEWTUBE VIDS
>>71736912
>THEY HAVE A CAVE TROLL
>make film pretending to be smarter and more sophisticated
>your climax is the dumbest, most obnoxiously loud CG fest possible
Snyder is a pig with lipstick.
>>71736677
>>71719676
Luthor was head of marketing for LexCorp before he took it over.
>>71736912
Jesus Christ, if this is live action why the fuck don't they just go with a 3D animated universe instead.
>>71736677
>I like imagining him making little "pew pew" noises under his breath as he cuts together their footage to Linkin Park for his youtube amvs
I don't care what anyone says, this is canon now
>>71736912
I do see a shitty action scene, though.
>>71736912
this doesnt look that bad desu
>>71737209
Please get some taste.
>>71723035
God this movie is so fucking dumb.
>>71736657
It would look suspicious if her and Lex's seats were both the only ones empty in the room
And she probably a robot.
>>71737423
I'm not asking why she was in the scene where she was killed off, I'm asking why they decided to write her being killed off at all.
>>71737220
it looks more or less how it should. it's a epic comic book fight scene.
>>71736644
I was not into her before this scene
>>71737487
No, it looks like a video game.
Not a good video game either.
>>71737423
>And she probably a robot
>>71737446
I understand you're confused, Marvelbabby... but sometimes you kill off characters and they actually die.
I wouldn't expect you to understand.
>>71737528
>somehow turn "Waste a notable character" into "MUH KINO, MARVEL"
>>71736912
So this... is the power of vydiakino
>>71736677
underrated
>>71737528
how the fuck did you manage to glean a Marvel vs DC tone from that?
>>71737547
No, this is.
>>71737547
>Snyder will never direct a DBZ movie
>>71736912
>>71737547
>>71737586
The Warcraft movie was better than this
>>71737528
You god damn idiot. I asked why they killed that character off so pointlessly, not "why do characters die in films".
