The only thing wrong with this is the script.
>>71664034
The only thing wrong with it is the audience.
FYFY
>>71664034
Superman looks like a retard
>>71664105
fixed you for you
>>71664034
the only thing wrong with this is upset fanboys thinking the script is shit
>>71664034
Oh well that's a trivial problem surely then
>>71664034
Just the script? Oh well then!
>>71664034
>The only thing wrong with this is the marketing.
FTFY
Should have never been "vs." as it sets up an unrealistic expectation and frames it in a way it didnt realy play out or need to. Plus Superman's standing in pop culture is so tenuous, as he's seen as gay, overpowered, corny, etc, that it just served to degrade his brand. Of course 80% of the audience was rooting for Batman to kick his ass, literally out loud, as Supes is just trying to save his mothers life. So having Superman job for Batman hurt the DCCU. Also while it is excellent, it's not really for kids, and that's ok, DC offers a ton of other media that is, but that should have been made a bit clearer somehow. In line in front of me at the theater were 2 six-seven year old girls in a Superman and Batman cape. They should not have gone to see it, as it's not for them. They could stick with Titans cartoon, DC girls whatever else.
Marketing, and the truncated running time fucked this film up.
>>71664169
Stop stealing my bit fag
In 20 years BvS will be regarded as the pinnacle of cape-kino and be compared to the likes of Godfather and Citizen Kane
>>71664169
>>71664155
People are blaming Synder. It wasn't his fault at all.
>>71664216
It was also fucking boring. Beautiful scenes and camera work I could watch all day but lacked substance and I hated every character.
Bruce was only acceptable on a superficial level since he narrated the film and you can tell they tried really hard to create empathy for him but it doesn't say much about anything else.
>>71664034
That's like saying, the only thing wrong with Osama was 9-11
Superman is a super fucking boring super hero
>poor direction
>poor acting
>poor script
>poor editing
>videogame visuals
>super hero movie
>>71664034
I want to rub my cheeks on Henry's suit
>>71664413
This.
>>71664391
It was pretty substantive, one of the most compelling aspects being "How would our modern, cynical world deal with the coming of Superman?" From Lex, the military, congress and of course Bruce those answers were represented.
>>71664034
Giving them the same mum.
Such a Dues Ex way to stop them fighting.
>>71664417
>poor direction
How do you superbly direct a poorly written movie?
>poor acting
They're reading from the shitty script.
>poor script
Yeah
>poor editing
UE did the best it could with a poor script.
>videogame visuals
at certain points. like all capeshit films.
>superhero movie
Yep
>>71664504
>I don't understand emotions in general I'm such an edgelord
Did you also complain about Tony wanting to kill WS?
>>71664504
>Giving them the same mum.
They don't have the same mom, obviously, just the same name which has been canon for almost a century. It clearly humanized Superman to Bruce and sobered him up from his rage. I don't see why this is such a problem. Better than any single thing Nolan came up with.
>>71664413
Yep, pretty much. Give me a movie from later in the comics when the power-scales gone DBZ mode, i'll watch it. Hell, give me a superman that acts more like batman i'll watch it.
Watching someone who is THAT powerful be a goodie goodie is boring as shit. If i'm watching a crime fighting god, at least make him flawed as an individual jeez
>>71664504
I can't tell if this argument is meme or some people believe in it.
>>71664480
No it wasn't and it doesn't even properly explore or conclude that theme you bring up. All you cucks ever do is repeat yourselves.
It shows more people being thankful to Superman than it ever shows an actual real discussion of his detriment to society. It gets thrown out the window when it turns out Lex sets him and batman up anyway
>>71664034
Holy shit has anyone pointed out how ridiculous Affleck's costume looks? He's like Dude McLargehuge
>>71664666
>cucks
Opinion disregarded Meme Satan.
So surprising people that use "cuck" as part of their vocabulary didnt get this film.
>>71664721
He looks fucking awesome next to Bale's ineffectual "Batman," and would dismantle 5'8, 180 lbs "Bane" in about sixty seconds.
>>71664034
Script
Cast
Director
Producers
>>71664736
>film
its a movie you /v/ sensibilities
>>71664760
this. the fight scenes were GOAT.
>>71664783
>>71664417
>people keep saying script for some reason.
>>71664617
someone that powerful with any realistic flaws would instantly crown themselves god-king of the earth.
>>71664785
That was almost a sentence, good job!
>>71664822
Well, the script was responsible for batman telepathically knowing doomsday was kryptonian after seeing it for a second.
also for lois telepathically knowing the spear was needed before ever seeing doomsday
Extremely bloated. Horrendously edited. Poorly cast. Baldly acted. Lazily written. Painstakingly dull. Unbelievably boring. Unnecessarily broody. Terribly paced. And that is just the first hour, there is still two more hours left.
The shear number of pointless subplots are simply staggering. Plot holes? You mean mystery elements. The fact that someone read the script and decided it was worthy of spending over 250 million to bring it to the screen boggles my mind. This is what happens when you take five different scripts that have no sense of correlation. Did editing and streamlining the story not cross anyone's mind.
The production is big on making terrible decisions and this is clearly evident in the casting. Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luther is laughably bad giving his rejected Social Network performance as twitching Mark Zuckerberg. Gal Gadot is by far the biggest miscast. Most people complained when she cast due to her poor physicality and zero resemblance to Wonder Woman. Those points are fine, but the biggest drawback is that she's frankly not a good actress. She has the emotional range of a potato. Her big reveal in costume is complete with a 'cool' guitar rift like it's some Robert Rodriguez film. During action scene she is replaced by her cgi double which obviously looks bigger and muscular in comparison to Gal Gadot's actual physical appearance. I just couldn't help by have a good chuckle at that.
>>71664785
>We patricians refer to blockbusters as movies. Films are much more sophisticated.
>>71664874
The biggest misstep in the entire production is the appointment of Zack Snyder as director. It seem like he just walked of the set of making Watchmen and nobody seemed to tell him that he wasn't contracted to direct a lackluster patchwork Watchmen sequel. An opening scene that features Jeffrey Dean Morgan being killed with a slo-mo shot of a shell casing exiting a gun; the government against masked vigilantes, a powerful god-like superhuman figure; a man that dresses in a black costume and fights crime with gadgets coming out of retirement; the death of a famous hero; not one, but three funeral scenes. How is this not recycling elements of Watchmen.
Zack Snyder has the inability to direct scenes where no action takes place and he can't mask it with stylish cgi backgrounds like he did in 300. Simply put when there's no explosions it dull and boring. Simple character interactions prove to be a struggle for a director who still gets his philosophy for his movies from teenage web forums. Religious references that completely lack subtlety and elegance doesn't make you movie 'intellectual'.
Other grievances include: a scene and a plot point that revolves around urine; Lex Luther's so called evil plan; Knightmare; a hyped fight that just ends up being a normal fistfight; and actual teaser trailers for future movies in the franchise.
>>71664893
calm down embryo
you don't want to have a panic attack
>>71664874
>>71664894
upvoted
>>71664874
DKEKS BTFO. HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER?
>>71664736
Liking the casting and smart references it tries to make doesn't mean there aren't any groundbreaking flaws to your favorite film, fanboy. You're also on a Chinese cartoon board and you shouldn't actually believe most people use a common term here in their spoken vocabulary unless they're still in that college neckbeard phase.
>>71664413
This. Though we're stuck with him because he's a classic and they decided to put him at the center of DCEU.
I just disliked Lex being autistic and Flash coming on a dream.
I get it, they didnt want to show Flash's costume, but still they could have made him go back in time all hurt and with his costume destroyed and ask Bruce for help
>>71664874
>Baldly acted
What did he mean by this?
>>71664617
He is just boring to watch with no discerning personality. Even when they drown him in burden and despair they forget to give him an actual soul.
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>>71665065
But they show the armor, it's just another costume entirely, not the regular Flash costume
>>71665085
LOOK
>>71665085
You post this in every thread. He could be Bruce Willis bald and he'll still be more famous, rich, and successful than you'll ever be.
>>71665176
It's okay that some people don't like your balding Superman, Henry. Relax.
What was right about that film ?
Most things felt out of place or were shoehorned in.
>>71665337
Making fun of someone, for something they can't do anything about, is edgy, Tom.
>>71664034
>The only thing wrong with this food is how it tastes
>>71665479
It's not a disease, dipstick. You're awfully sensitive aren't you? Try some hair plugs and CGI
>>71664105
While it is not the only thing, I give you this.
BvS fags are fucking cancer.
I have to say, whenever i thought of bvs i'd just get fucking angrily triggered by my disappointment of that shit movie, but now I chuckle at it tnx to the relentless trolls on tv. You have made me a happier man and helped me get over my disappointment, thank you trolls.
>>71664830
i would watch this
>>71666302
>>71664830
There's a non-Superman comic where a Superman like character goes berserk
Don't remember its name tho
it was pretty shit
![3543487044_8cf5f995d1_o[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/WChMLTt.jpg "3543487044_8cf5f995d1_o[1].png")
>>71666684
Irredeemable?
>>71666803
Yeah I think that was it. Looks like it. He later trips balls with his parents in some weird dimension (at the end of the ocmic), he was some Alien insert on earth
Outside of the Watchmen, I have never felt I was reading a comic book. Everything I've read after reading Watchmen just reads like a failed screenwriter (that is a failed novel writer or a failed script writer for film) try to get people to notice his stuff.
What would you recommend?
>>71664951
back to your letterboxd containment thread, faggot.
>>71666896
back to /v/, outsider
>>71666992
Not even him but generals are cancer and you are cancer
>>71664034
>the only thing wrong with this house is that it has no foundations
>>71667016
General are cancer, but so is the rest of the board at all times. There's no difference
>>71667016
Either way those threads have been on this board longer than 90% of the current userbase so it doesn't matter
Hello, I am Lois Lane and I know everything that's happening in this story and I show up in scenes I have no logical reason to be in knowing things I shouldn't know just so I can be an example of superman's flaws and weaknesses
Oh you dropped that spear in the water and I never saw you drop it there? let me go get that for you
hello I am on a B52 now with the military, because I'm a reporter and they let me on
greetings, I need this helicopter and its NOT FOR NEWS, which compels you to give me a helicopter, even though you have a huge motive to get aerial footage of that huge monster, please and thank you.
BvS was trash writing more than anything
The script is the best part. The only thing wrong is the audience.
>>71667128
Yeah and they contribute is 'YIKES' and looking down on 'Tarko/v/sky' and other shit ironic shitposting.
>>71667053
>>71667053
fuck off, you guys ruin any movie discussion by forcing your uneducated opinions down people's throats
you are not welcome here and you're all extremely easy to spot.
you post like you're from /r/truefilm.
>>71667207
Cry harder, faggot. Your kind isn't welcome here
>>71667207
>say film
>OH MY GOD YOU ARE FORCING UNEDUCATED OPINIONS DOWN MY THOAT
get a job
>>71667196
And? This happened before the site was even being brought up here too
>>71667134
honestly, the whole spear thing was the most confusing thing ever.
Was there something cut, even from the ultimate version?
>>71667235
>>71667238
back to your cancerous general you buzzword spamming teenagers.
>>71664034
Don't forget about the jew on duty.
>>71667262
which part was confusing? How she knew about it for no reason or why they needed it?
>>71667207
You post like you're from /v/ and started coming to /tv/ after you heard about baneposting
>>71664034
And the casting.
>>71667304
back to your GoT-- oops I mean Letterboxd General.
>>71667266
Your posts reek of rabbit.
hmmmmmm
>>71664873
>Well, the script was responsible for batman telepathically knowing doomsday was kryptonian after seeing it for a second.
It's hardly an incredible leap of logic given the fact that the only things that are even remotely comparable to Doomsday are kryptonians.
>>71667334
Whats wrong? Am I right about where you stand when it comes to authentic /tv/?
>>71667335
nice boogeyman.
>>71667376
Your buzzwords and boogeymen are meaningless.
Been in 4chan for nearly 12 years. Letterboxd General is easily just a shitpost central designed to contain redditors.
>>71667134
confirmed for not seeing the film
>>71664666
You literally haven't offered a counter argument above 'no it doesn't'.
You're hardly the epitome of intelligence when you never elaborate on your factual opinions. Literally just scream NONONO IT DOESN'T any time anyone presents you with an argument like a spoiled little babby.
>>71664251
It probably actually will, everyone is now saying Man of steel was good and that had bigger backlash than BvS because of how shocking it was
>>71667053
There is, one's reddit, and one isn't. Back to your reddit circlejerk generals cockgobbler.
>>71667559
t. ledditor
>>71667497
But you're only here because redditors made this board accessible for like minded people
>>71667612
Get the fuck back to your yikes general, holy shit he actually saves reddit screencaps
Could you prove my point better
>>71667612
>actually downvoting and upvoting
yikes
>>71667766
>"Why is /tv/ the worst moderated board on 4chan and when will the mods there get fired?"
What did you mean by this?
>>71667694
whats the problem? who will tell you the truth about why you're here then?
>>71667796
who are you quoting?
>>71667514
>everyone is now saying Man of steel was good
you're just falling for a meme retard
>>71667838
>>>/v/
with your epic website wars that was already old in the /b/ vs goons raid era
>>71667896
i'm quoting you, i shill for reddit sensibilities
>>71664951
FTFY
>>71667921
But I'm "from" /tv/ and came here before they mad it accessible unlike you.
>>71667979
The original is garbage and this one too
>>71668010
go get your pills
>>71668074
>won't deny his origins
Huh
My suspicions are correct
>>71667979
nice.
>>71667979
>"enjoying" movies
Found the disgusting /b/ poster
>71668111
the concentrated autism on this board is insane.
>>71664504
What does a video game have to do with this movie
>>71664874
>Plot holes? You mean mystery elements.
Are you talking about those seemingly random parts that were included in the comics
It didn't elevate the Genre.
>>71664480
>one of the most compelling aspects being "How would our modern, cynical world deal with the coming of Superman?"
They tried to, but it was boring and lacked any real substance. This is what we talk about when we point out that you apologists jump through hoops to justify liking it.
You're really not that much better than this muslim guy I once talked to, who claimed that the quran was literally a miracle, because "just the first page is filled with X number of metaphors", and then he raddled off a shitload of other shit about the awesomeness of the quran that some "scholar" pulled out of his asshole.
Sorry to say, but the emperor is naked.
>>71670187
>They tried to, but it was boring and lacked any real substance
How Snyder changes the meaning of Death of Superman so effortlessly with a such emotional scenes was very good and best parts of the film tbqh familia
>>71670242
>changes the meaning
>omg it's like symbolical and literal at the like same time lol xD
Yeah, how genius.
>>71667514
>everyone is now saying
You've got to try leaving 4chan sometime kiddo.
>>71664034
Not really, the whole edition is wrong, even in "Ultimate Edition" you can feel like the whole movie is like short cool scenes from a trailer/music video glued togheter
>>71667497
we've got a vet here, lads
>>71670283
He doesn't do the easy way of being jaded and cynical about the world after Superman's death. That'd be really easy, but there's hope there after (and because of his death). It's nice of him as a director, since most of his filmography isn't like this (haven't seen LOTG).
I don't know why it upsets you tho
>>71664993
>>71665012
Thanks plebs. You can turn it into pasta if you want
>>71670434
>He doesn't do the easy way of being jaded and cynical about the world after Superman's death.
>shit pulled out of your ass
You can shoehorn any depth and meaning into fucking anything ever.
I'm not really upset, I'm just bewildered at why you people are religiously defending this boring movie.
>>71670312
i'm not talking about memesters who liked it from the get go. im talking normies
>>71670530
>>shit pulled out of your ass
Please elaborate how
Original comic 'Death of Superman' was a collaborative design made as a backlash against the gritty and grimdark 90s comic zeitgeist. It was to get rid world of its greatest hero and show how shit it'd bem a petty thing to say the least. On same note Doomsday was designed to be everything wrong with comics at that time, dumb fucking muscle brute.
The entire atmosphere in Clark's sacrifice for this world and the changes are different. First of all, we know he will survive it because we are shown the dirt rising, so we aren't left it 'he is dead note', second of all the death signals his sacrifice for the Earth which is due to him accepting Earth as his world. The empathy he gains after his death from people (he was a controversial, even hated figure) is also a big change and positive note on Superman's memory (the people don't know he will rise again).
It also unites Bruce and Diana in search for more metahumans, so instead of halving the metahuman population from 2 to 1, it makes Diana interested in looking for more (again, beginning of heroic age not the end)
>>71670775
>First of all, we know he will survive it because we are shown the dirt rising, so we aren't left it 'he is dead note', second of all the death signals his sacrifice for the Earth which is due to him accepting Earth as his world. The empathy he gains after his death from people (he was a controversial, even hated figure) is also a big change and positive note on Superman's memory (the people don't know he will rise again).
So it's ever so genius that he sacrificed himself for earth (but not really), and that people were happy about it. Yeah, that really takes some thinkin' to come up with. Give me a fucking break.
The "search for more metahumans" could not have been more hamfisted and awkwardly hammed in there. It made no fucking sense in-movie. We know that a JL movie is coming incredibly soon, so of course they have to introduce a shitload of characters way, way too fast, but that's only excusable if that's the conclusion you start out with and go on from there. At least Marvel took their sweet time introducing characters instead of rapid-fire going "oh yeah, these 5 other characters exist".
It's boring, it's cluttered, it's a mess.
>>71664034
The problem was that everyone involved with the movie is retarded.
If you're going to put the two biggest names in comic books in a movie, then you have to give them both at least a movie of back story and set up their clashing views and personalities.
Instead we got fanfiction level garbage.
>>71670950
Having such a ready-to-hate attitude with attitude of a strawman, you must be unable to enjoy anything. I've shown you the cause and the effect which you stoneheadedly keep ignoring because 'oh no i can't accept this or that'd mean a snyder film might not be shit i think it is'
>So it's ever so genius that he sacrificed himself for earth (but not really)
His later rebirth won't make his sacrifice any less of sacrifice.
>Boring
You are.
>>71664413
True, but his villain plots as a global dictator is always goat
Seriously I love everything about Injustice, may be except for year 4 with Greek gods and all. The Joker pulls off the ultimate prank by corrupting superman, there is nothing more chaotic he could ever do
The upcoming JL movie probably aims such a plotline with superman being the villain as lois lane dies or smth
>>71671269
>everyone involved with the movie is retarded
nah, just the """""""critics"""""""
>>71670950
The "metahuman thesis" is the premise Lex is using to try to get the kryptonite. Not hamfisted at all. It made perfect sense.
I really love the scenes about the discussions based around Superman and what a man like that existing.
I wish the film was more than that. I really wish to promote it there were hour long debates about him. I loved those scenes so much. And they are really really well written too.
Like we actually got a 60 minutes special on him or a Charlie Rose interview about him.
