What do you guys think about Clerks? Did you know he made it with only $30k?
They should have gone with the original ending
>>71646010
did he use 5k then spend the rest on burgers cause thats what it looks like
>>71646010
Clerks was smart funny and dumb funny at the same time.
That is 30k more than I will ever make in this lifetime
>>71646042
What was the original ending?
>in a row?
>>71646044
more than half of the money was spent on soundtracks as far as i remember
>>71646010
The only time I watched it was when I was probably 17 with a bunch of friends. We'd all just smoked a someWEED LMAOand it was the end of the night so we came inside to sleep and someone put this on. All I remember is us saying how boring it is and I think someone turned it off halfway through. Then I slept on the wooden floor and it was really uncomfortable.
>>71646081
Dante gets shot by a guy robbing the store
>>71646081
someone robs the store and the main character gets shot, dies. KS said people were too depressed with the ending at early screenings so he changed it. I understand the sentiment of that but I do think he should have taken the bolder route and kept the first ending
>>71646096
No, 30k was the actual film. Another 200k was spent on the soundtrack by the studio. It's easy to spend 30k for the space, for all the food and props that get wrecked, paying the actors, etc, plus the cameras, film, etc.
>>71646119
>>71646150
kek
I have the DVD that includes the original cut of the film with that ending
>>71646010
Super overrated, and Kevin Smith is a fat, no talent hack
>>71646150
Eh I disagree. Dante finally figures out that it's his own fault his life is so unpleasant and decides to do something about it. Getting shot, while fitting with the melancholy attitude of the movie, would just make it all feel rather pointless.
A pretty fantastic movie.
Lynch made Eraserhead for 10k. No wonder Clerks is 3x better.
A product of it's time whose appeal will forever be lost to those born after Gen-X (OK Gen-Y liked it too).
Didn't age as badly as Mallrats though
>>71646081
POV of that one chick chugging all those dicks
>>71646150
I don't think so. Him getting shot is super anticlimactic in a very "student film-y" way. It holds up better with the ending we got.
>>71646342
Clerks reads like a script that went through many well-thought out drafts as the plot and ideas were polished.
Mallrats reads like a first-draft followup with a gratuitous Stan Lee cameo before that was even a thing.
>>71646342
>I bet Superman blows a load like a shotgun, the only way he could have sex with a normal woman is with a kryptonite condom, but that would kill him
Unpausing the sega after leaving it on all night is one of the most dated things I can think of in the movie
>>71646244
Bunch of savages in this town...
>>71646366
God i wish.
>>71646366
in a row?
>>71646342
This
I can quote Clerks to anyone around 38~28 and they'll get it 75% of the time. Outside of that age range 10% of the time. Fuck we're old.
i really loved it when it first came out.
>>71646102
cool blog post.
>>71646520
I'm 23 and the only quote I would recognize is the one about how many dicks his GF sucked, and I don't even remember the number
I watched it when I was like 16 though
my 24 year old brother and I quote the "bringing back porchmonkey" at least once every 3-4 months when we see each other though. that and Howard Stern Show shit.
That star wars contractor sideline with the roofer was so fucking funny. I don't tremendously remember how it went now but it was great
>>71646564
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>>71646010
Whenever they claim a low budget, they never include promotional, distribution and printing costs. Also it's funny because most of the budget went to the soundtrack.
>>71646081
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPM5T0QOs3Q
>>71646612
>Scuse me I couldn't help over hear what you were talking about and I'm a roofer by trade
>anyway I get this offer for a shingle job up in the heights and they tell me they'll pay double if I get it done in one day but then I found out who owns the place, Dominic Bambino
>Baby Face Bambino?
>Exactly, so I pass the job on to a friend of mine and what happens? He gets whacked
>See the money was good but I passed because I knew who it was for and I can tell you any contractor on that death star knew who he was working for
>A roofer listens to his heart not his wallet
>>71646678
The other ending was much better, this one is just sad
>>71646612
The contractors working on the Death Star who died when the rebels destroyed it. Roofer guy compared it to his buddy taking a job with a mob boss and getting killed for being seen there, iirc, and said it's their fault and should have known better.
Agreed, it was excellent.
>>71646780
I agree, but you asked for it.
>>71646612
>That star wars contractor sideline
My favorite part of the movie.
It changes how you think about things.
>>71646636
30k is what it cost to produce. Why would they include marketing in the production budget?
>>71646797
I immediately started thinking about it and odds are droids did all the construction work. Because it doesn't fucking make sense otherwise.
>>71646847
>Why would they include marketing in the production budget?
Because indie filmmakers without studio backing have to handle all of that themselves, and it's not a fair comparison.
>>71646888
I thought they went on the festival circuit then got picked up by Weinstein/Miramax. Not sure how much Smith himself spent on marketing Clerks
>>71646598
>I don't even remember the number
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTnHdWA9WTE
>>71646010
IMO it's actually become better with age, with the rise of "only 90's kids will remember this" nostalgia for the era it's pretty jarring to be reminded of just how bleak life in the 90's really was for young members of Generation X
>>71647026
>90's kids
This is a safe space, please don't trigger me here
It's a really good friend simulator.
>>71646150
Imagine a world without Clerks 2.
>>71646244
Did he eat that dog?
it was entertaining. the characters were well written and while it didn't tell a huge story the story it did tell was fun to watch
>>71647188
that's a world I don't want to live in.
>>71647188
The only thing of value in Clerks 2 is Rosario Dawson jiggling around in the dance scene
>>71647246
someone post the webm pls
>>71647246
If you don't think a donkey show makes a movie worth seeing then you aren't human.
>>71647246
Nah, it had plenty of good scenes, specially involving Elias.
I just realized Ben Affleck was in Clerks 2.
>>71647373
If you watch closely again you will even see that Kevin Smith was also in the movie
>>71647246
That shit was hilarious even the little things like Dante wandering outside and seeing Jay naked
>This is my fucking surprise?
>>71647290
Thats interspecies erotica fucko
>>71646402
Mallrats was basically Clerks set at a mall but instead of the workers talking about their lives being in a rut it was a romantic conquest movie.
The Earth Rocker made Haggard for half a million
>>71647131
I'd spend time in a VR Quick Stop. Shit, go around Kevin Smith and hire Mewes and shit for pennies on the dollar. I bet all of them would suck mad dick for work. They'd offer it up. You'd have to say no thanks, Jason, I just want you to deliver some lines. Just have them spit out hours and hours of bullshit, and if they stutter or don't nail a delivery (which they rarely did anyway) then it pretty much matches up with the source material (or in this case "source" material). Broadcast your budget: next to fucking nothing. This piques fans interest, most of whom hopefully see 2016 Smith as Jabba the Hutt, a creature who's taken their fond memories of the 90s and absolutely skewered them by having Clerks, Jersey Girl and Tusk on the same imdb page. That's when the fans turn on him and turn to us. Our movie. Our shark.
I'm telling you guys, we could make theoretical hundreds.
>>71646678
>white robber
No wonder they cut this ending. Fantasy totally ruins immersion.
Smith's descent as a filmmaker began immediately after Clerks and never bothered to stop. It's still falling.
In his current state, if he were making (or god forbid remaking) Clerks today, he'd show the audience Randal tipping the casket over. You know he would.
>>71647935
I can see it now...
>Randal tips the casket
>sound of record stopping
>SOMEBODY ONCE TOLD ME...
>>71647935
If Clerks was made today it would star Jonah Hill and Zac Efron.
>>71647838
This is like a white holocaust, Trump save us.
>>71646076
Get a job
>>71646205
>for the space
He worked in the store, he shot it there while it was closed at night, hence the shutters being down
>>71646244
Nice try at fitting in Kevin
>>71646244
He might be pretty chubby underneath that hockey jersey, but you can see he's not the ambulocetus that he once was.
>>71650132
Seriously, if OP is factual thats pretty pathetic. Great movie and pretty sure OP is meming anyways
>>71647935
He's made a featuring his thicc daughter.
That brings him back up a notch in my book.
>>71646044
>Not knowing how much shooting on film costs
>>71650191
Jesus those jorts(?) are frightening on every level
>>71650305
It almost looks like a denim skirt in the fat pic
>>71647935
The only reason he didn't show it was because he couldn't afford to shoot the scene, it was in the original script. The Clerk's animation team recreated it as a DVD bonus.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1rqhf_clerks-the-lost-scene_fun
>>71650305
The ones on the left look like a Pentacostal's skirt.
>black and white
dropped
>>71650305
I gotta admire how he doesn't give a fuck and dresses for comfort rather than style. But I wouldn't be caught dead looking like that, and I wear jeans and a T-shirt 350 days of the year.
>>71650378
>qt at work likes me
>take her back to my place to watch a movie (Clerks)
>'Eww, I don't watch old black and white movies'
fucking dropped.
>>71646282
>>71646398
No, it was supposed to reflect on Dante's inability to stand up for himself and stop being a doormat. His final words were literally "I wasn't even supposed to be here today".
>>71646096
How much do you think the spent on making fuck berserker?
>>71650285
If you're careful with takes, it doesn't cost that much more than shooting on digital when you take everything into account.
>>71646150
what a fucking pussy
He did something right
>>71646244
Shecky is the best part of Smodcast.
I rewatched it.
Its so bad. The dialogue is just terrible. Spent to much time around stoners to not recognize pseudophilosphical bullshit masquerading as 'deep' thoughts. Had to turn it off.
>>71646438
>when you never had a memory card for your Sega Saturn
>>71650640
Vote Trump 2016
>>71646776
>exactly
not
>the very same
>>71647188
A literal utopia
>>71650549
Ummm, no. It's called processing. The film stock costs a fuck ton and the developing/processing costs a fuck ton.
Learn something.
If Kevin Smith was a starting filmmaker today, he would have shot Clerks on a DSLR for like $1K.
>>71646010
>TFW your family lives ten minutes away from where they filmed it.
Yup, Im from NJ
>Thats also the reason theres a Jay & Silent Bob's Comic Stash 20 minutes away from Leonardo
>>71650640
I feel the same way about Slacker and, sort of, about Waking Life.
>>71648033
delete your account
>>71650826
can you get me a git em patch?
>>71650843
Tell em' Steve-Dave is the best thing to come out of smodco.
>>71650824
And it would have looked like trash. He'd have needed to spend quite a bit of money in post which means he'd either have to build a budget suite or send it out to a company. If you don't know what the fuck you're doing on an editing suite then you're going to need to hire someone. You don't just point and shoot a DSLR or any digital camera and get a final product that is ready to be shown. Primer did it for less but it's a special case.
With film, however, you basically do shoot it and get a product ready to be shown. So yeah, you spend about $30 per 2 and a half minutes of film. You process it for w/e rate you can get at a lab and then you literally cut it and tape/glue it by hand.
Film is usually more expensive but when it's 16mm stock, it's not by much.
>>71650891
it's the only smodco podcast i still listen to
>>71646859
wouldn't the stormtroopers also have been responsible for the construction work? they're not like the clone troopers who are raised to fight from birth. they were regular recruits from across the galaxy. it's not impossible that they had knowledge of plumbing and shit prior to joining which then got them placed in construction work or something. that would partly explain why they're so fucking awful at shooting. rather than dedicate all their waking hours at the practice range, they're helping construct the death star and other stuff.
>>71650966
Lol ok fag
>>71651059
DUDE HOMOPHOBIA LMAO
>>71651008
I don't mind Hollywood Babble-On once you get past the first 15 mins and skip the Liam Neeson's Cock final bit. Smodcast is pretty consistent on being entertaining but sometimes I feel like Kevin really monopolizes on the conversation which is unfortunate because Scott is a really interesting and education dude. Plus, there's a couple of episodes of Fatman on Batman or Sminterview that are breddy gud.
>>71651059
>fag
take it back
>>71651101
educated* I'm tired senpai
>>71651101
listening to paul dini cry when talking about mr. freeze is great.
>>71651095
>DUDE HOMOPHOBIA LMAO
You tried
>>71651101
I actually completely forgot about HBO. That and TESD I still listen to.
You're right, only the headlines and other news items are interesting. I'm still holding out hope it will be picked up for TV...some day. Not entirely because it will work for TV, but because Ralph deserves it.
As much as I like Kev, I swear I'm beginning to feel like he's behind every Smith post on /tv/, because who the fuck else would go out of their way to make a thread about him/his movies? Like, why him over any other director/writer?
>>71650891
Did you get the full tesd out of context video?
Whoever made that has not gotten enough credit. It's great.
>>71651169
True, Ralph is a talented and funny dude. My only fear is that if it gets picked up for TV, censorship and Network interference will ruin what could be a fun thing. Well see what happens I suppose.
>>71646010
>Not factoring in inflation
$30k in 1994 dollars adjusted for inflation are the equivalent of $30m in 2016 dollars.
>>71651211
Most of the threads about him are started by images of him washing his car or walking his dog.
>>71651212
Googled it and checking it out now. I'm already entertained.
>>71651266
I could see him being the type of fat fuck to actually post on /tv/ about himself desu senpai.
>>71651211
I think it's to do with the overlap of demos. This site is full of euphoric fedora tippers in their late 20s to 30s. Kevins target audience right there.
>>71651381
He seems like more of a reddit guy desu
>>71647838
It's Jersey. Unless we're in Camden, where the fuck are you even going to find a black person to rob you?
Now Puerto Rican, then we've got something.
>>71646010Would you have gone in on your day off?
Would you have left your nice, faithful and loving GF for Caitlyn?
Could you put up with someone like Randal irl?
>>71651410
I could see Mewes as being a 4chan guy.But never says mean shit to anybody, just wants to make dick jokes and laugh at stupid shit.
>>71650615
Jesus Harley is perfect
>>71651749
Already has a great body of work.
>>71651782
I hope you mean her looks and not Tusk.
>>71646859
>>71651024
they say in the fucking movies that the empire enslaved wookies to build everything you fucking idiots
>>71647246
You can't taste racism...
>>71651887
Which one do you think I'm talking about?
>>71647188
Why do people like clerk's 2, it felt like a worse version of waiting (also a god tier coming of age tale about working in a shitty, going-nowere industry)
People actually tell me it's better then the first and I don't understand how something with literally zero originality can be better then the first
>>71651514
Not on your fucking life.
The GF was 100x better than "Rides Dead Dick"I am Randal IRL
>>71650640
That's the point dumbass. The characters are literally late teen stoners who think working in a shitty convince storeand going after a girl who cheated on you is way more profound and important then it actually is, that was literally one of the closing monologues.
Yoga Hosiers looks like it's gonna be aight.
Kevin does his best when he just tells a simple relatable story set in real life.
When he tries to do shit like tusk and restate it falls apart miserably.
Hoping it won't be complete trash because it looks fairly accurate in its portrayal of today's youth and the main cast can get the dick anytime
>Also what did tv think of bindlestiffs?
>>71652615
Yoga doesn't look good. and I'm a Kevin Smith fan.
imo just wait until Clerks III or Mallbrats
>>71646342
Also to people that got stuck working in a shitty gas station for a few years.
Glad I got out.
>>71652646
>>71652646
I didn't like clerk's 2 so any extension of that storyline is dead to me unless they reboot it
I kinda liked mallets but I really don't want to spend time with any of the characters again.
Do people really do ass-to-mouth outside of porn? Is it like a 'in the heat of the moment' thing?
Liked it as a teenager, rewatching recently it's still good but trying too hard to be clever. Lots of lines are pretty cringeworthy and characters like the one who works in the video store (forget his name) seem much less believable and forced. Lots of good little sketches and one liners though, and does a good job of setting up the lore for the other films.
Sequal was shit.
>>71646010
It did not age very well. It is very much of that time in the 90s.
>>71651514
"put up" with randall.
Dude hes the biggest and bestest and funniest bro there is.
>>71652005
>they say in the fucking movies that the empire enslaved wookies to build everything
No they FUCKING didn't you goddamn nigger. Fuck you.
>>71652317
What's with you and originality, anyway? It's all about the execution and the writing. You sound mentally unstable.
>>71650361
for me, clerks is primarily a cartoon. then there's some movie that the guy did before
we are living in the bad parallel universe where Kevin Smith chose to be on ABC instead of UPN. on UPN, it aired after Dilbert. their synergy made both shows viable for several more years.
Kevin Smith never made a movie ever again. Dave Mandel and Brian Kelley continued to make Clerks into something much weirder and funnier than the movie ever wasbut I also give Kevin Smith and Scott Mosier a lot of credit because they were heavily involved in the writing, and allowed the show to go so far away from what the movie was
