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Apologize.
It's never too late.

http://www.gamezone.com/news/fans-apologize-to-zack-snyder-after-watching-ultimate-cut-of-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice-3441211
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Probably the best capefilm ever made.

Certainly the one with the most ambition and substance.
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>The majority of fans who hated the film originally did a complete 180 after watching the Ultimate Cut and loved it.
>5 tweets
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I don't need to apologize, already I liked the theatrical cut even though it was a severely flawed gem.
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>>71637125
What if Snyder takes control of Marvel?
Which comic he will adapt? I vote for Sentry.
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>>71637125

>apologizing to someone ripped you off

Sounds like the level of retardation you'd expect from a Snyder fan.
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>>71637187
Why are you retards praising the film to heck and back? It was a fun film and i enjoyed it, but it was just capeshit.
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>>71637125
The flick no matter what edition was full of stupid and badly directing and scripted scenes..

No extras or additions will change that. It could have been a great flick just like Watchmen and Man of Steel were, but instead it was a pile of shit.

There's no apologising needed.
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>>71637372
>Man of Steel
>great flick
man of steel was a shit joint at best
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>>71637366
>>71637372
>>71637456
Snyder does a great job of filtering out the plebs.
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>>71637456
its more of an Okay Kino
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>>71637544
i know this is bait but i can't stop smiling condescendingly at the idea of somebody who thinks snyder films are misunderstood masterpieces
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I finally got around to watching it yesterday.

If this was an "improvement", the the theatrical must have truly been a giant festering turd.

Disjointed editing. 2 hours of a "conspiracy" plot that has no real payoff and is only there to give Amy Adams something to do. Cringeworthy Lex Luthor performance. Stupid, pointless dialogue. Almost a complete lack of humor or fun. Big end fight scene disappointing.

Just a mess, Snyder should never be allowed to direct again.
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>>71637664
>Almost a complete lack of humor or fun
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>>71637456
Man of Steel was indeed irredeemable piece of fuck, but I throughout enjoyed BvS.
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It's a capekino!
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>>71637664
> Almost a complete lack of humor or fun.
You almost got me until there. I see through you.
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Unless the ultimate cut:

>Recasts Wonder Woman
>Recasts Flash and redo his suit
>Actually explain why Superman has darksied's cronies working for him
>Actually explain who Darkseid is instead of lazily foreshadowing him
>Use doomsday as a middle of the movie hero and not the climax
>Makes Luthor more brooding and less spastic
>Literally why is Mercy even in the movie
>Makes Amy Adams watchable
>Actually explains why "Whelp I guess Batman kills people now"
>Cuts superman and wonder woman and luthor and everything else and just makes it about batman

Then watching it would be pointless
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>>71637730
You can call me a Marvel shill all you want.

You're defending an enormous failure of a movie and I think you know that, and I also think you know that deep down no matter how many 12 year old snot nosed "Batman's the best" tirades you go on, you'd rather watch Civil War because you know it's a far better movie.

The sad thing is there really are people on this board who think BvS was anything other than an abortion.
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>>71637125
How is everyone watching this already? torrents?
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>gamezone

so BvS is really aimed at the /v/ crowd
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>>71637730
Whats wrong, imdb movie buff?
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>>71637919
>Actually explain
Exposition babby
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>>71637919
>>Makes Amy Adams watchable

I agree with your other points, but Amy is always watchable.
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>DC cucks still shilling this shit pile of a movie
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>>71637456
>MoS good
>Watchmen good
hey u like Synders movi..
>BvS shit

REEEEE U FUCKING PLEB REEEEE SYNDER IS KING REEEEEEE
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>fans

THERE ARE DOZENS OF THEM
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>>71637919
They could have solved everything by having the entire flick be set in the Knightmare World and maybe jump back in time at the end when everything's resolved.

Literally, what the fuck was the point in BvS? They should have just went straight to Justice League.
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>>71637919
>Recasts Wonder Woman
Opinion and it's a shit one
>Recasts Flash and redo his suit
Opinion and it's a shit one
>Actually explain why Superman has darksied's cronies working for him
This wasn't really explained but it can only be assumed it will be in future films
>Actually explain who Darkseid is instead of lazily foreshadowing him
See previous
>Use doomsday as a middle of the movie hero and not the climax
For what purpose? The whole point of the first 2 hours is to show Luthor as the man behind everything involving the Batman and superman feud, throwing Doomsday into the mix early would have made luthor an irrelevant character as well as not give enough time for the plot to develop
>Makes Luthor more brooding and less spastic
Agreed whole heartedly even though this is just an opinion
>Literally why is Mercy even in the movie
Who?
>Makes Amy Adams watchable
Opinion but she was shit
>Actually explains why "Whelp I guess Batman kills people now"
Batman has killed people in older films and shows this isn't the first time and only one person got killed IMO and that was the gatling guy in the car chase scene
>Cuts superman and wonder woman and luthor and everything else and just makes it about batman
Oh so this whole post was bait. Great I wasted my time
kill yourself
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>>71637854
Aren't movies SUPPOSED to be fun?

Am I missing something? Are we supposed to sit through 2 hours of literally nothing interesting AT ALL to get to a 15-minute CGI superhero fight with zero emotional resonance or stakes for any of the characters?

Sure, you may call the Marvel movies "plebby" but at least you don't walk out shaking your head and wanting a refund for the 3 hours of your life you just wasted.
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>>71638006
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@71638055
No (You) for you
1/10 see me after the 404
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>>71638137

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Sure, you may call the Marvel movies "plebby" but at least you don't walk out shaking your head and wanting a refund for the 3 hours of your life you just wasted.

if you don't you are a massive fucking pleb
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>>71637968
>robert beavers
>uses a jonas mekas film cover
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>>71638124
>Recast Wonder Woman
>opinion and it's a shit one

100% of people will stop reading your post here.
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>>71637968
god whoever made this must be licking the dried jizz off their crust stained pants because of how well baited it is
fuck this board
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anybody who thinks this movie was deep is very likely 20y old or some shit
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>>71638189
That's fine not that it matters to me because
my opinion> yours
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>>71638201
>its bait
Stick to videogames or comics, kid
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>>71637986
I don't need exposition. What I need is for the shit to make sense.

Even implying that Superman and Darksied would ever be working together for any reason goes completely against BOTH of their characters
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>>71638006
Why did they dress her like a granny?
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>>71638252
>implying
back to your cunny threads pedo
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>>71638006
I didn't say I wouldn't bust inside that bitch ten times, I'm just saying the character Lois Lane had multiple plot devices that went literally nowhere just to get her in the movie. They could have cut out everything about her except the romantic tub scene and her getting caught by Luthor and it would have been perfect.
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>>71637664
>>71637929

Marvel shill
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>>71637929
this
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>>71638124
>doesn't know who mercy is
>thinks skinnykikeflatchest should be wonderwoman
why did you even bother
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>>71638232
how could you look at her in the movie and think she's good? genuinely asking.
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>>71638055
>mfw these gifs
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>>71638201
Spotted the capeshit-watching manchild.
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>>71638285
fuck man Lynda Carter is a babe
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Make him the editor
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>>71638392
makes me kek that usually a hard face Renner can't even contain it
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>>71638410
>implying
Check the catalog retard, you know how much capeshit and GoT shit and irrelevant fucking movies occupy here? More than enough and never once have I came here to see actual film discussion
This place is strictly for shitposting, in fact I'm surprised Hirom00t hasn't renamed it
/shp/-shitposting
This place is a joke and you are also if you come here taking anything serious
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>>71638055
>>71638392
How come no one made this in gif form yet?
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>>71638322
Get some fucking taste next time you come back to this board
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>>71637335
Punisher
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>>71638372
I remember who it is now and it does reinforce the other posters question as to why was she even there so I do agree with that
>skinny but muscular is a bad thing
go fuck yourself chubby chaser
>>71638373
I thought she added flare to the WW character that I wasn't expecting, her accent is definitely prevalent however but other than that when she's in armor she fits the model well
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BVS is pleb filter

Snyder is a modern day Kubrick
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>>71638541
ok cunny pedo
drink bleach and stream it I want to watch you suffer
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ITT: trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls
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>>71638625
>https://imgur.com/PA0TZ8j
Why is an /r/movie drone talking about pleb filters when he is one himself?
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>>71638006
Angles can make miracles
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>>71638680
>you found the image I uploaded to imgur myself so I could link it to my friend
great work, detective.

Your next mission: Figure out who stole your brain.
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I have only seen the """""""ultimate""""""" version and it's just as shitty as any other capeshit
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When is the 40+gigs rip coming out, im not downloading that pleb webdl shit
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>>71638885
it's worse because it's boring and thinks it's something more when in reality it's lower than the likes of X-Men: The Last Stand
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>>71637617
See? Pleb filter.
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>>71639290
yeah, people who like it are plebs
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>>71637919
>Actually explain why Superman has darksied's cronies working for him
>Actually explain who Darkseid is instead of lazily foreshadowing him

Why?

Darkseid isn't in the movie, it's not about him

It literally is just foreshadowing, why would they do something else instead of foreshadowing when their intention was to foreshadow

>Use doomsday as a middle of the movie hero and not the climax

but.... why?

>"Whelp I guess Batman kills people now"

muh comics

Is it ever specified in the movie that this Batman never killed people? Because the film rejigging what's ultimately a stupid contrived aspect of a character is actually not an argument.
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>>71638372

truly only obsessive comicbook enthusiasts can provide the most heightened and sophisticated film analyses

Seriously, Mercy Graves is an absolute nothing character, in fact you should be ashamed of yourself for even knowing who she is in the first place
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>>71638597
>when she's in armor she fits the model well

not even her posture is good
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>>71637313
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>>71637313
I'm with you, superbro.
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>>71637125
Why can't I find a torrent of this?
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>>71641852
Because it's shit.
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>>71641852

Do you not use kick ass torrents?
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>>71637125
Took me a while to realize these are basically Year of the Spoony threads but for Snyder.

Now I can enjoy them.
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>>71641852
because you're not a member
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>>71641878
Couldn't find a 1080p of it on there.
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>>71642015
>smaller library than rutracker

how pathetic familia
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So I'm currently contemplating whether or not it's worth the risk to pirate this movie.

I haven't pirated anything in like 2 years because I received a letter from my ISP informing me that they had the right to sue me/throttle my internet speed/etc if I torrented anything else.

Do you think they'll follow through with it? Have I been scared by idle threats?
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>>71642037

That's where I got mine, so you're obviously incompetent.
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>>71642099

Do it, pussy.
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>>71642088
>rutracker
>better movie tracker than ptp
spotted the retard
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>>71637125
The ultimate cut didn't fix the horrendous scene cutting
I'm not apologizing.
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>>71638137
The atheist millennials on this board could be shown Wizard of Oz, Raiders, E. T., Die Hard, and Independence Day and they would eschew them all for copying the Marvel formula.
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>>71642145
y-you didn't answer my question
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>>71638137
>Aren't movies SUPPOSED to be fun?
Well I can answer that in one word.

No.
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>>71637125
Apologize for what? Didn't watch this trash in the first place.
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>>71642109
1080p?
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>>71642352
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>>71637730
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>BvS is so bad that people liking it makes news
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>>71642737
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>>71642604
It's funny because anyone who watches capeshit wouldn't have a chance of a girl going anywhere near his cock
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Great. It's a "Zach Snyder wasted 2 and a half hours of my life, and now wants to waste another 3 hours" episode.
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>>71637730
JAJA
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people just hate it because they dont understand it, just like citizen kane
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>>71637125
even if it was true that the ultimate cut was a 10/10 movie, why would fans apologize?
The theatrical cut would still be shit, that's completely zack synder and WB's fault
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It makes me wonder if any of the WB execs actually watched both of them.
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>>71641266
she's a world famous model m8 her posture is 10/10
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>>71642954
Do you not understand how mainstream capeshit is now?
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There is no larger gap in the casting choices in any film I've ever seen

the amazing batman casting

and the WW and LL casting so bad that it defies description
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>>71643937
LL casting is actually great, watch as he becomes classic Lex in the next film.
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>>71643839
for a model
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>>71637187
Ambition I will give you. Substance, not so much
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>>71643983
oh I didn't even watch this one, there can't be a 'next'
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>>71644037
what?
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>>71643937

I actually warmed up a lot to Eisenberg. Maybe not as OG Lex, but as some new villain with similar name and MO, sure.
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>>71643983
I agree. He's already proved he can pull off the cold mastermind in "The Social Network."

I look at his personality in BvS as pure psychopathic affectation, just projecting the facade of the "quirky nonconformist tech mogul" to the world. Now that he's been exposed for what he really is, he's likely to drop it and try on a new personality.
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For the longest time I thought, when people said this was a pleb filter, that they meant anybody that dislikes it is a pleb.

But now I've seen the light. The plebs are entertained by this drivel, whereas the normal people recognize it for the waste of film it is.

Bravo, /tv/. I've been enlightened.
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>>71637125
>uncut version of anything
>have to sit through an extra 60mins of transition scenes and background characters being goofy
look, these "special directors mothers" editions are not going to change anyone's opinions of a movie.
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>>71644259
really desperate for some (You)'s aren't you?

(You)(You)(You)(You)
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>>71644324
He's got a point, though. The entire purpose of a director's cut is to give the fans that enjoyed the initial go another chunk of content. If you're relying on a DVD cut to 'change minds', then it speaks volumes of the initial release.
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>>71644459
yeah because studios aren't renowned for doing stupid shit to films.

like kingdom of heaven?
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>>71637919

this is some good bait
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>>71644459
it changed my mind, i shatpost BvS but pirated the UE anyway out of curiosity. it's fucking great
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>>71644538
If you need 5 hours to tell a good story, perhaps film isn't for you.
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>>71644639
ahh yes, low quality b8, really intriguing.
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>>71644657
Agreed. So stop baiting and actually try forming a proper argument.
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>>71637366
pretending to like zack snyder's movies has gotten lots of replies over the years.
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>>71644692
you really got me there, damn.
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>>71637125
but has he apologized for Jesse Eisenberg?
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The shitposting against this film gets lazier by the day
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>>71644778
I honestly don't feel like he needs to. Jesse's Lex has really grown on me.
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>>71639290'
>muh christ symoblism
>muh excalibur reference
its a comic book movie for children. please reevaluate your life
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>>71644892
mad
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>>71644863
wow youre really riding the next level of shit taste arent you? Everybody in capeshit threads need to be firebombed.
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>>71637125

Hello.

I just came here to say that I just watched it and I liked it a lot.
I don't know what version it was, but it ran for 3:05 h:m.

That is all.

webm unrelated
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>>71644892
If you ever wake up and realize what those allusions are really conveying, you're going to feel like a real ass for saying crap like that.
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>>71644819
what's funny is, in context, he's telling peter his photos are shit to drag down the price, even though they're actually really good and one of a kind.

like BvS.
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>>71644863
just like my belly since i havent shat in 2 days...
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>>71644926
well im not nine years old, so no. but capeshit and GoT are actually cultural poison turning everybody into drooling retards who cant appreciate anything that isnt watered down to the level an infant could understand
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>>71637125

No. I will not apologize. The movie still sucks.
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>>71645020
holy shit i hope this was ironic
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>>71644957
LMAO how can the literal autists who watch capeshit for children literally believe the insane bullshit they spout? Trust me Ive seen all the image collections of the "deep philosophy and mature themes" of this stinking turd of a DC Extended Universe Trailer - The Movie. This movie is nothing. all the "deep philosophical themes" are idiotic questions not taken seriously by anybody. Its just gobbeldygook. I mean holy shit how much of an edgy teen do you have to be to actually believe what youre saying? How delusional? Is BvS the new Fight Club but for actual retards? I mean people who watch marvel cartoons are a bunch of infantlized retards as well but this is just a whole other level. Your post makes me weep for fucking humanity. yes im mad but more than anything im sad because i know the future of film discussion on this board will be with people who believe childrens movie are high art with something important to say about society, and not just cgi shit fests meant to rake in as much greasy neckbeard dollars as possible
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>>71638208

That's an insult to 20 year olds. Anyone who thinks this film is deep is a dumbass and doesn't get out much.
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>>71645112
>MOM THE CRITICS JUST DIDNT GET IT. WHY COULDNT THEY OPEN THEIR MINDS TO TRUE CAPEKINO? THE SCRIPT OF BVS WILL BE PRESERVED IN THE SMITHSONIAN SO FUTURE GENERATIONS CAN APPRECIATE THIS TURBULENT SHIFT IN AMERICAN CULTURE THAT TOOK PLACE AFTER MUH SNYDERING
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>>71645283
holy shit
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>>71645112
What cracks me up is all the people who keep talking about how watered-down and simple this movie is, then going on to demonstrate their utter failure to understand it.

What's even funnier is when someone points it out, they dismiss the fully coherent and cohesive explanation that's perfectly in line with comics lore and history, then get all pissy as the cognitive dissonance really begins to take hold if them.

It's like clockwork.
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>>71638625

Snyder makes true cuck kino for cucks like you
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>>71637335
sentry has no mainstream recognition, it will never happen
then again, that's what i would have said about guardians of the galaxy
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>>71645332
it's a legit pleb filter.

all of snyder's work is, really.
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Honestly, one of the best hollywood blockbusters int the last 25 years.

but that's not saying much, really
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>>71637125
this movie was ruined by including supernatural events that arent superman.
all the autist neckbeards who praise this movie only praise it for its "philosophical themes"about the world dealing with a godlike alien and blah blah blah. the second yourr tossing in big rock monsters and cgi fish men and time traveling dream beaners, none of that shit matters anymore. at that point it's just a shlock cartoon and attempts to tackle that meta human superman philosophy shit just became window dressing for cgi fights and explosions and quips
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>>71645428
Agreed. I realized that here >>71644196
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>>71645500
you can have the (You) you're looking for
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>>71645332
I like how autists who defend this movie literally only defend it because of its 3rd grade philosophy. but nobody dares defend it's awful writing pacing and editing, it's overuse of cgi, the brown n bloom color pallete, the horrible dc extended universe shit, the 2 cringe worthy jew actors, muh martha, pivoting the movie from bvs to justice League in the last hour, etc.

it's a shit movie, every critic and consumer agrees. even if the philosophy of the movor was actually engaging and not empty nothing, it'd still be a bad movie for all of those reasons. the fact that this movie is dumber than fight club just makes the delusion sadder
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>>71637125
Now they did remove Wonder skelly and the 3 forced cameos.
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>>71638625
his movies are shallow music videos. try again
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>>71645527
Global rule 4. Fuck off.
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>>71645652
>You will not post or request personal information ("dox") or calls to invasion ("raids"). Inciting or participating in cross-board (intra-4chan) raids is also not permitted.
what did he mean by this?
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>>71638597
>""""""""""Muscular”"""""""""

Dyel pls go
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>>71645636
WTF I hate kino now.
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>>71637730
>Serious=Bad
Not at all. Cap fighting Iron Man had a very serious buildup, and an intense fight. Zemo tries to commit suicide.
The problem was that Superman, the pinnacle of optimism in the DC universe, is a cynical loser in BVS.
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>>71645784
>posting about movies you haven't seen
classic
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What exactly is the ultimate edition? What does it add that the original didn't?
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>>71645894
30 minutes of crucial character and plot scenes
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>>71645821
>No one stays good in this world.
Snyder drones will defend this.
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>>71645958
it's called a character arc retard. he says that at his lowest point and changes his mind by the end.

i get that such a concept is foreign to marvel drones but try and pay attention next time you witness kino
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>>71645988
he's just pretending to be retarded m8.
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>>71637929
>You'd rather watch civil war

Don't care about company wars(I liked gotg and winter soldier, but hated mos), but BvS is much more rewatchable than civil war.
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>>71638625

filling the movie with tropes doesn't make it good or deep
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>>71637291
>implying they need to show every tweet
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>>71638576
that would be fucking god tier
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The many dildo ships flying into a giant space anus in Man of Steel were actually symbolic. They represent how many times Snyder pretends to rape the audience in the ass while the loyal fanbase seeks to find meaning to it.
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>>71638680
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>>71642099
Do it faggot, you wont
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>>71648089
*intends
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>>71648097
holy shit the rumors are true
the cape drones are redditors
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Ultimate cut made this film bearable.


Doesn't excuse the shit plot holes and blowing their load by killing Superman after knowing Batman for 5 minutes.

Pic related
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Fuck snyder. I spent like 20 bucks to see that piece of shit in theaters. Im not spending another 20 to see the "good" edition that should have bern in theaters from the beginning. people are apologizing to him? For what? Being fucking retarded? I seriously doubt the ultimate edition is any better but even if it is, too bad. Send me a free copy to make up for the money i spent or fuck off.
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>>71637187
Too much ambition, honestly

Really telling that they cut important plot scenes, yet kept in that utterly worthless Batmobile action setpiece.
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>>71648143
holy fuck theres even more right down to the garbage gifs that get posted here

we need to make /mu/ and /lit/ our sister boards to stop this invasion
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The batman fight scenes were amazing. Even the batman nightmares were fun.

God dammit it should have just been a batman movie.
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>>71637854
Cutting out humor altogether is a pretty hacky move. Characters are not 100% serious 100% of the time, it makes them feel one note and unrealistic. Humour doesn't have to be wacky and quippy, but it needs to exist, or else there's nothing to gauge the dark shit.

The Wire was much darker than BVS, yet it maintained a strong sense of humour throughout the series. If BVS had a tighter script and a stronger sense of character, it could have achieved the same thing.
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>>71637291
>tumblr tier gif
>snoop dog

Hmm
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>>71648338

Goddamn that motherfucker thought for sure he was gonna die

>she think she cute or somethin'
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>>71637125
Apologize? Make a film so shitty that you have to re-edit it and market it as improved. Blame everyone else for it's flaws.Still has Wonderjew, Reindeer Games and Henry "JUST" Cavill. Not to mention it has whiney Zuckerburg piss jars and his zero motivation. Are Snydercucks this delusional?
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>>71648369
>Hmm
>that space between the meme arrows and his "hmm"
very interesting. still learning how to post here?
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>>71648435
>not recognizing meme spaces

HMM
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>>71638625

Or maybe BvS is just pretentious ambiguous drivel so that fanboys can draw whatever meaning they want from it.

Face it, it's possible to make a deep thinking film without most critics and audience members thinking that it's shit. Snyder continually fails in this regard.

And with Snyder still at the helm, there's a good chance that JL Part 1 is going to be a fucking trainwreck.
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It's called Batman vs. Superman but the two eponymous "superheroes" don't have any fundamental moral, philosophical, ethical or political differences. Both are peeved with their general lot amidst humanity, both pretty much kill people when they feel like it, sporadically save people and are generally out of touch and alienated. The way the fight between the two of them is brought about in the movie is one of the stupidest contrivances I've ever come across, I don't understand how DCucks can wilfully blind themselves to the nonsensical storyline while picking up on so much of the "symbolism"... They really cannot see the wood for the trees
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>>71648472
>meme ___
interesting. he thinks hes fooling me
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>>71648516
New posters are the lifeblood of 4chan. You should make him feel welcome, instead of trying to make him feel bad.
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>>71648579
>him
um...actually I'm a girl ; )
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>>71648579
the current state of the board is because of just that, eko
we went from the board no one cared about to the board considered even lower than /v/
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>>71648422
It's not a re-edit. It's the version Snyder intended to release before dumbass suits and bean-counters demanded a shorter runtime.
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>>71648645
Snyder did not intend to release a 3 and a half hour movie

He was just too much of a diva to cut the chaff and leave in the key scenes, so we were left with the hackjob edit.
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>>71648799
No, he intended to release a three-hour movie, thirty minutes of which were cut from the theatrical release.
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>xd we clarified this stupid subplot about framing superman for murder even though it doesn't matter at all because batman already wanted to kill him and superman has to be forced to confront batman to save his mom who he somehow couldn't save on his own even though he's shown saving Lois across the world
>movie saved you guys lol
>ignore the bland, lifeless world and the shitty writing if you please
>our cinematic universe is so rich! Check out the awesome heroes that look wrong as fuck and the villains we've screwed up beyond all hope!
>do you guys like deep meaning and symbolism? Neither do we, but we'll pretend we have it in lieu of making something entertaining
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>>71648863
>we don't need these important plot scenes
>can't cut the pointless Batmobile chase though, its part of my VISION
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>>71649033
Lex never intended Bruce to kill Clark. He set him up to be Superman's "victim." That's why it wasn't sufficient to his needs to have Superman confront the Batman. He very much intended Clark to kill Bruce.

But if you're too dumb to put those pieces together, there's nothing I can say that will convince you.
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>>71649083
Things like this are why I don't think he took part in the theatrical edit.
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>>71649205
Why was there a batmobile chase in the first place? It had literally zero effect on the narrative
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>>71649264
it shows how unhinged and sloppy Batman has gotten.

a big part of the film is exploring his psychological state.
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>>71649264
It's how Lex knows what signal to be looking for to green light the abductions of Martha and Lois. He's surveilling the Batman.
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>>71649299
>it shows how unhinged and sloppy Batman has gotten.
And yet he's able to flawlessly steal the kryptonite in the very next scene with zero causalities?

BvS gets too much shit, but the DCucks are just as bad when they refuse to acknowledge a single flaw.
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>>71649299
>what retards think
it shows how unhinged and sloppy Batman has gotten
>the actual reason
DUDE EXPLOSIONS LMAO
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>>71649139
thats still a stupid fucking plan holy shit you SJWs are idiots
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>>71649354
>what retards think
>you
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>>71649264
zero effect on the narrative?

you can call it naive but it didn't have zero effect.
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>>71649428
I'm not that one that thinks the point of a big, dumb action scene was to "show how unhinged and sloppy" someone got, or to "explore his psychological state". You're just a retard. A literal, drooling, grunting, need-mom-to-wipe-your-ass retard.
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>>71649474
>"explore his psychological state"

Yeah I'm sure all those dream and nightmare sequences were pointless too and don't tell you anything about him.

fucking idiot. Stick to Disney.
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>>71648645
So you are saying he wanted to make a shitty movie longer? Some people tried to stop him and he agreed to them? He was the director and responsible for the film. Both versions are shit and he is to blame. I just wish he married someone else so DC would unhook from his cancer wagon.
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>>71649438
you have a 15 minute chase scene where Batman fails to steal the kryptonite
Then the next scene he just steals it off-screen

The plot of the movie would be entirely unaffected if you removed the Batmobile chase
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>>71649523
Look at you, trying to change the subject

We're talking about the pointless Batmobile chase scene that took precious time away from the actual plot.
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>>71637361
>Calls others retard
>Has no basic English skills
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>>71649749
>sentence fragment
>no punctuation
>meme arrows
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>>71648863
False

He said himself that he knew the studio wouldn't let him release a 3 hour movie because he isn't someone like James Cameron

And besides, 150 minutes is already too long for a blockbuster. It's plenty of time to tell a story.
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>>71649741
there are people who didn't LOVE the batmobile scene?

are you implying you can make a batman movie without any batmobile whatsoever? delusional, 2bh.
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>>71648143
>r/dccu
>not cherry picking
choose one
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>>71640145
to be fair to them if you are a fan of the character i guess it can be annoying seeing them offed so quick, i mean im a fan of KGBeast who's a shit ton more obscure yet he was one of the best bits of the film
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>>71642188
>Plebs actually think this
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>>71649873
Pointless scenes are always a flaw.

If you need a Batmobile scene, make it integral to the plot. It's really not hard.
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>>71643605
why would it be snyders fault?
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>>71649403
Can you put together the rest from there or do I need to walk you through it?
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>>71650072
Because hes a pleb hack
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>>71645231
>Calls other autistic
>LMAO is their first word
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>>71645606
actually people have defended everything but the editing which is agreed to be bad across all board. Dumb ass faggot.
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>>71645231
BLASTED
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Just way watched the ultimate edition for the second time. This is easily among my top 5 comic book movies.
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>>71650113
Ok so you are just a retard then
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>>71637313
This completely. It helps that I only paid 3 dollars to see it in 3d and had heard it talked down but it exceeded my expectations a bunch.
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>>71650208
hardly
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>>71650151
get with the memes bro
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>>71650309
Blasted enough to answer to a bait reply.
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>>71645231
>that whole angry rant and not a single argument
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>>71650555
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>>71637968
>patrician /tv/ will never come back
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>>71650262

Just watched the ultimate edition (never saw it theatrically). This is easily one of the most boring movies of all time. So much stupid shit is crammed into this fucking thing.

>Thomas Wayne trying to be a badass
>that fucking email
>close ups
>DID SUPERMAN DO IT???
>every scene with Lois
>Superman/Clark
>Martha
>GOTHAM FOOTBALL
>lead up to BvS fight
>literal fingerprint hack
>spear

The worst is probably the movie reminding us every 5 minutes how important Lois is to everything. Didn't have a huge problem with Lex because low expectations. Best part was Batman in the BW joining the fight.
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Pleb n Proud reporting in.
This is my CAPESHIT pick of this half century.
Now is the time to rejoice and kill brain cells.
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>>71637125
>>71637335

LOBO STAND ALONE KINO WHEN !?
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>>71651466
Oh man, that would be an experience. Would be an even harder sell than Deadpool was, though.
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>>71637125
2000-2009 The Age of The Dark Knight
2010-2020 The Age of The Crucifixion and Resurrection of Zach Snyder - Forever Our Movie Messiah
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>>71638597
>>skinny but muscular is a bad thing
>go fuck yourself chubby chaser
do you not know WW is supposed to be slightly too large for her armor? Which she inherited from her mother?
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why? I loved it since it came out
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>>71637125
I saw the cinema version and half of the extended one

the UE only built up Superman as a nice liberal boy manipulated by Zuckerberg Soros (he goes after the tv black lives matter lady who guilt trips him, is suspicious blacks are being terrorized by Bats, finds out it's Bruce at the party) and is constantly emasculated by his black boss. It's the only big difference in that it actually changes Superman's trajectory.

The pacing suggest more that Bruce is basically his own kid self lost in the woods and is on a moral downward spiral. But his story feels even more convoluted with the other plots' extra time. By the time Wonder Woman gives back the drive you're emotionally disconnected from each plot's motivation and characterization. The Knightmare becomes ludicrous extra slog instead of a cool little bit and extra paranoia.

By the time we "find out" (not really - it's hard to watch this for the "first time" again) that the whole Africa debacle was set up by Luthor for who knows what reason, this shit only got messier than the theatrical cut (so Lex wanted Clark to investigate his actress to get into Batman so he'd eventually be guilt tripped more until it the capitol building explosion?)
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>>71650555
>>71650586

ignoring the fact that having symbolism doesn't make a good movie, this isn't even good or deep symbolism.
>lol the song says "day and night" and then lex luthor says "day and night" its like two different things fighting against each other XD tru capekino
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>>71654102
The scene in africa really illustrates how useless some of the extra material was. We don't need Jimmy Olsen sharing a coke (i think it was only because of the transition between popping open the kryptonite inside the rock and popping open the unhealthy thing from Olsen's home country - pottery) or seeing Lois being rough gal and the needless talk in the jeep.

You don't need two new drone characters and a soldier (you're watching them thinking "am i supposed to remember these faces?")
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>>71654392
I'd have to watch it again to be sure, but I think that good portions of that dialogue were there to further the point that our own government was there playing both sides of the fence and that Lex's contractors were a big part of that.

It significantly changed the implications of what Finch was saying about "shadow interventions" during her speech, which we can now plainly see wasn't referring to Superman's actions at all. She was about to bust Lex.
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>>71654392
the emphasis on the soldier (the middle finger, he's a nice guy) is a weird detour on a already messy scene that you're not quite sure why you're watching
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The Ultimate Cut is actually pretty decent. I'm sorry Zack.
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>>71637730
>bunch of muscleman in tight spandex having fistfights to decide the fate of the world somehow
>serious
pick one
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>>71654520
oh yes it absolutetly goes in deeper but it's ultimately quite pointless unfortunately.
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>>71654102
>constantly emasculated by his black boss
That was fucking jarring.
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I cannot begin to comprehend this fanaticism for this particular movie. My best guess is that people really liked the Batman parts, and I did too, but they can't wrap their heads around liking something in a bad movie. They liked it, so it can't be bad. It has to be good. And so the /tv/ is fucking spammed, or was since the buzz about this garbage thankfully died down, with pages upon pages of fan essays detailing the religious symbolism and parallels in BvS and why all the sparse character work lends itself to entire universes of interpretation.

But the movie was bad. I have absolutely no interest in watching a director's cut because the movie will still have stiff acting, no chemistry between the leads, stupid people making stupid decisions, hamhanded movie universe building, and still feel like a bloated fucking mess. Stuffing more shit in to explain all the other crap doesn't make the movie better, it's not that people didn't understand it, only fucking retards don't "get" it, it's just a tedious slog of a movie.

I just don't think I'll ever understand the love the small minority have for this dumbass movie.
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>i am hard hittan jornalis. r u a terrist?
>muh martha
>lexapro luthor
>get your free metahuman emblem design from lexcorp today!
>lmao check out these links xD
>that annoyingly out of place ww theme


etc etc. it was nice to look at tho, also enjoyed the fight
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>>71648029
>implying there's more tweets
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>>71655487
Do you seriously not get the implications of the logos? That's just sad.
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>>71655518
explain.
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Question is, why do producers have the final say on the theatrical cut of such a movie if everyone knows it's gonna make it unwatchable?
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>>71655487
>i am hard hittan jornalis. r u a terrist?

seriously laughed for a full goddamn minute at this because of how true it is

god damn why did this have to be such an awful movie
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>>71646123
no Snyder movie is rewatchable. The closest you get is Dawn of the Dead 2004
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>>71655476

well I did enjoy the movie, I liked the whole "hero not so hero" concept of batman and superman. I liked the psycho Lex, I didn't get why there was wonderwoman (it felt like "amy adams is not enough pussy, let's throw in an amazon for some snu-snu") but it's still ok I guess.
I liked it. But I prefer the Bale Batman's movies.

Every superhero movie is about "stupid people making stupid decisions", and even if I enjoy also the marvel's movies, they are way more stupid and childish and pretty much the same story with different people.

Well, I must say Deadpool was a nice "something different", also xmen became a bit more complex, but still...
I haven't watched Civil War, I'm curious, I think I'll like it for all the "moral/ethical" conflict.

I don't understand all the hate towards a movie (batmanVsuperman) that isn't worse than the avengers.
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