Did they ever actually explain what this guy's major malfunction was?
I mean yeah, he was obviously a psychopath, but why? Did Roose diddle him as a kid or something?
>>71585809
he just didn't feel emotions
mentally he was innocent like a child
but he had to be put down like a mad dog
>>71585809
He was ugly so he was butthurt at everyone, much like r9k
>>71585983
That's book Ramsay
he was written terribly he was one step away from being 1960s joker prancing around with clown makeup giggling to himself
he was just doing everything ironically
Toxic masculinity
>>71586055
>Green Dreams of the weirwood net equivalent of 4chan
this is what drove Ramsay to madness
>>71586036
Nigger the '66 Joker is the pinnacle of fucking screenwriting compared to fucking GoT Ramsay
>>71585983
not gay or anything but he looks pretty handsome, i mean im no homo but id suck his dick you know what im sayin
>>71585983
Would suck his dick.
But yeah, he was terribly written. He was acted well though, considering how bad the script was and he had shit material to work with.
>>71585809
because he had to call fat walda mum
boy did they beat the "lol dogs that eat people" horse to death
>>71586100
>/s4s/, not even once
>>71586019
In the books he dont have a girlfriend? that girl who fuck with him its only in the show?
>>71586233
In the books he's just your typical edgy brute, psychopathy aside.
He's not the cold, calculating mastermind that the show tried and failed to portray him as.
>>71586233
>>71586260
Oh and yeah that was only in the show
>>71586285
I see and imagine is dad is more cool then the show too
>>71586527
Book Roose is probably a fucking vampire and is implied to be ludicrously evil, although there's no direct proof of it apart form the obvious stuff i.e betraying Roob at the RW
He certainly wouldn't be stupid enough to be outmaneuvered by a retard like Ramsay
>major malfunction
faggot
>>71585983
Except he's handsome in the show and even had a qt psycho gf.
I always imagined it was because he knew his father never truly saw him as a Bolton, and his image of a Bolton is a violent murderous Vlad Impaleroonie, so he went all out to impress his dad. Maybe I just completely missed the point but I dunno.
>>71585809
>Bad guys needing reasons for their actions
What show do you think you are watching son?
>stabs dad
>kills his wife and child
>okay man your in charge of the north now!
it's hard to take this show seriously sometimes
>>71586781
ohh cool, and in the books what other weird creatures appear that dont appear in the show?
>>71585809
Oh shit, it's Ash from Vicious.
He was born of rape and raised as a bastard of the Vlad the Impaler of the North so there's that.
>>71585809
His mother wed without fucking roose ( right of the first night ) so roose hung her boyfriend and raped her beneath the swaying corpse.
He would've killed the child but he kept him due to his obvious inhuman appearance.
( boltons descend from whatever was sired by white walkers and human inbreeding )
His malfunction was identity. He strived to rid himself of his bastardness and a true born like theon was something worth stripping his identity away due to his insecurity.
I liked ramsey because he was what jon could've been. Also characters that influence others to lose there identity are normally walking down a dark path.
Ramsey, shee eye aye, bran etc.
>>71586931
>Wed without fucking Roose
Wasn't it they didn't ask his permission, and hence he was denied his technical "Lord's right" and went full mental?
In the books he's an ugly twat that grew up mostly in a shit environment with his mother despising him being forced on her by rape and also a constant reminder of the husband she lost due to Roose murdering him for not letting him have a go at her on their wedding night per a now banned custom. One day Roose decides he'll pick up a bastard because he calculates every scenario(not getting a male heir by marital procreation, also he only married his wife because he would recieve the daughter he chose to marry's weight in silver, thereby selecting the fattest bride).
Ramsey is a dumb, sadistic cunt who loves to feel superior due to his shitty upbringing. He's not smart or attractive. He's just a fucking weird kid who one day found himself in a position of authority.
>>71586931
>( boltons descend from whatever was sired by white walkers and human inbreeding )
Is this theory actually credible?
Hes a white CIS male.
>>71586931
i've not read the books, but if roose was such an edgy vampire why did robb trust him and even keep him around?
Book Roose is probably more evil than his bastard's son, he's just extremely cold and have a calculative mindset, which makes him a fantastic villain.
Show's Roose is another whatever lord who is a cunt but his son is cuntier than him.
>>71587088
boltons are a northern house
>>71585809
>Roose didn't have his guards stab Ramsay to death and throw the corpse to the dogs to fake an accident the second he had another son
>At the very least didn't keep his wife under lock and key until he could send Ramsay somewhere else while staying the fuck away from him
Felt out of character
>>71587201
yes but surely he must know of his reputation and robb is supposed to be a decent guy.
i couldn't imagine jon keeping roose around let alone trusting him if he was king in the north
>>71586903
Coldhands (benjen in the show)
Patchface
Also lots of characters, but they're just more storylines, not particularly cool/extraordinary
>>71587289
Roose Bolton always kept a low profile on the things he did. There's a dreadful reputation on Bolton's name but that's it.
>>71587289
Roose is told to be a great strategist so Robb needed him.
>>71585809
Cartoon villain
![House-Bolton-heraldry[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yB43nTb.jpg "House-Bolton-heraldry[1].jpg")
>>71585809
His was a member of a house which was famous for flaying their enemies alive, they even used a flayed man as their house sigil, what did you expect?
It's like you give a child to be raised by Charles Manson and then end up surprised when he ends up fucked up.
>>71587088
Because he was legitimately afraid of him.
>>71587289
So, Robb strongly distrusts Roose and you suggest he leaves him and his army behind in the North?
>>71587289
Roose follows the law and his lord. He kept all his shady shit on the down low, and also has a great deal of respect for discipline and order.
He followed Robb because he was a loyal bannerman, but at the same time the man's an opportunist.
Once he saw that Robb was making dumb decisions, that's when he decided to betray him since clearly this kid was fucking up and would get their army killed. Better to join the winning side.
>>71586260
Yeah Ramsay's just an ugly, dumb psychopath who likes torturing for fun. His saving grace is that he's part of a powerful house, otherwise he'd be killed in a day
>>71586903
>Undead partly decayed Catlyn who has to hold her slit throat closed
>Some old woman whose implied to be immortal
>Shadow cats
>An insane jester that used to live under the sea
>Army of zombie bears
>A based man so fat that his throat can't be slit
>Astopor ends up being ruled by the propped up corpse of a dead butcher slave.
>A teleporting masked woman (but she was technically in season 2 for like an episode)
>Dany's legion of furries.
>>71585809
Some people are just born without the capacity to feel very much empathy for other people. It's just the way his brain is wired.
>>71586781
>Book Roose is probably a fucking vampire and is implied to be ludicrously evil
Roose just has a genetic disorder where he has too much iron in his blood and while he is probably cruel at heart he's rational enough to know that indulging in such desires is counter productive.
"A peaceful land, a quiet people."
Roose is anti-war.
>>71587088
>i've not read the books, but if roose was such an edgy vampire why did robb trust him and even keep him around?
In the books Roose and Robb barely interacted.
Robb was afraid of Roose at Winterfell after he summoned his banners.
Then at the Twins after making the deal with Walder Frey, Robb sent Roose south along the Green Fork to engage Tywin.
The two never met again until the night of the Red Wedding.
So he never really trusted or liked Roose, but he was never around him and otherwise had no reason to act against him because all appearances were that Roose was faithfully executing Robb's orders.
>>71587062
>Is this theory actually credible?
No
>>71587054
Roose only brought Ramsay to the Dreadfort about a year or so prior to the books starting because his trueborn son died.
>>71589872
>No
Why not? I think it's perfectly credible.
>Roose only brought Ramsay to the Dreadfort about a year or so prior to the books starting because his trueborn son died.
Ramsay was raised in the Dreadfort.
>>71585809
>House Bolton
>Has a man with the skin flayed off of him as its fucking flag
>No one in their right mind trusts the Boltons
>Somehow they stick around and have power
Shit like this is why I can't stand GoT sometimes. So much stupid edgy bullshit. If this was a world actually based on the harsh realities of the middle ages the Boltons wouldn't last a fucking day because no one would trust them.
I am so glad Ramsey is dead. What an utterly stupid subplot.
>>71586814
>calls someone a faggot for quoting Full Metal Jacket
Get your testosterone levels checked you little bitch.
>>71589967
Well hows it any different from the Starks? Such an honorable and naive family should have been blown the fuck out eons ago.
Really there is nothing strange about the Bolton sigil; real-life sigils have been edgy too.
In fact, the Starks have not always been good people. Plenty of them were monsters and aggressive assholes. It's how they conquered the North, after all.
In that same vein, we can speculate that not every Bolton has an a psychopath. In fact Roose's trueborn Son, Domeric, seems like he was a decent and well adjusted young man.
>>71585809
he was the bad guy and when he died it made you happy
>>71590036
The stark honor thing is very recent. Started with Ned because of his being raised by Jon Arryn.
how was politics normal and everyone just lived comfortably their entire lives until the events of the show?
>most powerful houses have managed to survive peacefully for centuries
>somehow almost all of these houses have become extinct or nearly extinct in the span of 5 years
bravo George bravo
>>71590036
>>71590124
Any details about the Starks in power before Ned? Sounds interesting.
>>71587077
this.
>>71589220
>>71589220
>Undead partly decayed Catlyn who has to hold her slit throat closed
>Some old woman whose implied to be immortal
>Shadow cats
>An insane jester that used to live under the sea
>Army of zombie bears
>A based man so fat that his throat can't be slit
>Astopor ends up being ruled by the propped up corpse of a dead butcher slave.
>A teleporting masked woman (but she was technically in season 2 for like an episode)
>Dany's legion of furries.
wtf
>>71587054
Why do people think Ramsay is dumb?
>>71587062
Yes, roose was like the vlad of the north. But like a reverse vampire. Instead of drinking blood he leeches blood from himself.
1)Psychopath
2)Fucked up house
3)Bastard of a fucked up house
4)Product of rape
>>71587032
The Lord's Right of First Night was outlawed years ago, Roose is just a cunt.
>>71589220
>An insane jester that used to live under the sea
This is referring to Book Euron, right?
Reminder the only factual reference to vampires in Asoiaf are vampire bats in A History of Ice and Fire
>>71593554
he's dumb compared to the scheming mastermind the show wanted him to be
not that anon, but by "dumb" I think he just means "nothing special"
>>71593818
Patchface
>>71593818
No, Patchface.
The chubby fool/jester at Stannis' court, that drowned at sea and survived.
All his speach is mind-broken nonsense that starts with "under the see, people (...)"
>>71585809
He's clearly got some Wight or Other blood in him, Roose's general background is pretty mysterious and I guess it goes back to him being the offspring of the Night's King and his Other Bride.
>Domeric Bolton will never take over the Dreadfort and ensure the Bolton legacy continues for another thousand years
feels bad famalan
>>71594115
>jester/fool at Stannis' court
>at Stannis'
How, Stannis doesn't seem like the type to enjoy such things
>>71585809
>D&D giving a character a backstory
wew
>>71594427
It was for his daughter
Plus the jester was supposed to be a present from his parents and the jester was the only survivor of the shipwreck where they were killed
>>71591388
all the great houses except maybe the baratheons have a high chance of continuing in the books
angry manlet syndrome
>>71585809
Wasn't it Roose's servant Reek that turned Ramsay from a troubled youth into a total psychopath?
>>71585983
To all the homos saying he is attractive: He was horribly miscast, a more fitting actor closer to his book version would look more like pic related
>>71589220
>insane jester who lived under the sea
Wasn't he also BFF with Shireen too?
>>71594743
thats because shireen was his daughter and book stannis was a cuck
>>71594714
>implying D&D care about character descriptions when they go to cast
>>71594769
Honestly that'd be pretty karmatic if Stannis burns Shireen but gets no miracle because she had no royal blood.
Of course I know you're jesting.
>>71591388
>House Gardener and House Hoare were btfo during the conquest
>All the former Kings of the Trident gone or vassals now
>Darklyns are gone
>Reynes and Tarbecks btfo
>Toynes in exile
>Big shake-up when a BUNCH of houses lose wealth or exiled for supporting Daemon Blackfyre
You have not read the books
>>71591390
There's supposed to be a whole Dunk & Egg novella about a Stark succession crisis but SOMEONE won't finish the book...
>>71594769
OK Littlefinger
>>71589220
Must read the book. Solely for the undead bear army
>>71590036
>>71594410
"A quiet boy, but most accomplished. He served four years as Lady Dustin’s page, and three in the Vale as a squire to Lord Redfort. He played the high harp, read histories, and rode like the wind. Horses … the boy was mad for horses, Lady Dustin will tell you. Not even Lord Rickard’s daughter could outrace him, and that one was half a horse herself. Redfort said he showed great promise in the lists. A great jouster must be a great horseman first."
Fucking Ramsay
>>71595307
There is no undead bear army. Just a unded bear that accompanies the other undead during their attack on the fist of the first men.
>>71589781
>>71586781
"Roose has no feelings, you see. Those leeches that he loves so well sucked all the passions out of him years ago. He does not love, he does not hate, he does not grieve. This is a game to him, mildly diverting. Some men hunt, some hawk, some tumble dice. Roose plays with men. You and me, these Freys, Lord Manderly, his plump new wife, even his bastard, we are but his playthings."
>>71595014
>All the former Kings of the Trident gone or vassals now
House JUSTman return to primacy when?
>>71595317
So would this boy grew up and realised his father was the personification of evil, would he care?
>>71589220
>teleporting masked woman
>immortal old woman
who are these? I dont remember that stuff
>>71589913
>Why not? I think it's perfectly credible.
It's stupid. Roose is not inhuman - he's just an asshole.
>>71589913
>Ramsay was raised in the Dreadfort.
Not in the books he wasn't which was what the other poster was referring to.
Ramsay was raised at a mill and brought to the Dreadfort slightly before or just after Domeric's death.
>>71595626
When he grew up and came back to the Dreadfort, he got really lonely, heard about Ramsay, and went to find him against Roose's advice...
>>71585809
What the fuck else can you do in North for entertainment besides getting drunk and fucking whores?
I'm sure he was just bored.
>>71595671
>stoopid xD
Try again
>>71594890
Him and Theon are the only ones that look nothing like they should. And Tyrion but all they had to do was give him lighter hair and one black contact.
>>71595698
Oh right, didn't Ramsay like gut him the moment they met and then was like "Guess I'm your only heir now dad."
>>71593953
>>71593554
Ramsay in the books is cunning in a sly, animal sort of way. In a pinch he is very good at thinking on his feet.
However he has little grasp or concern for the bigger picture, acting on his passions and whims rather than considering the potential fallout.
In the books if Ramsay kills Roose he will be strung up and executed by his vassals within days. Nobody in the North wants him for their liege and only tolerate him because they fear Roose.
>>71595648
Quaithe and the ghost of high heart
>>71595743
He poisoned him, yeah. The Maester was all "gee Lord Bolton, I guess he just got a crazy bowel sickness all of a sudden for no reason" which Roose did not buy for a second but could not do anything about.
Book-wise, he has this fixation with pleasing his father which must've grown out his inferiority complex from being a bastard, which he soothed at first by killing Domeric (Roose's true born son), and that he then tends to by trying to live up to his father's expectations.
It's his human side in the books. All he does, he does out of a sick obsession of being complimented by his father. He thinks torturing people will make him more of a Bolton. He thinks that being cruel will better seat his father's influence in the north.
It's very sad because Roose knows that he has this control over him.
Which is why Ramsay killing Roose is THE MOST RETARDED FUCKING THING EVER.
>>71595727
There is literally no basis for it beyond some saying in ancient legends that the Night King MIGHT have been a Bolton. Among many other families listed.
Roose is pale... which is not strange if he stays inside most of the time and leeches himself.
He is skin is MOSTLY unwrinkled; which is just lucky genetics and a gentle lifestyle.
He has pale-grey eyes. Very similar to the Stark's dark-grey eyes.
He often acts emotionless in front of others, probably to hide his motivations and weaknesses. However if you read his scenes when he is with Theon or Ramsay in private he seems quite normal. Even a bit sarcastic.
>>71594714
Spoony?
>>71585809
TWENTY
somebody explain why roose was killed so easily
Are you telling me Roose was only allowed to live the entire time due to the kindness of his son?
>>71595948
BIG
>>71595956
DnD needed a bastardbowl and fast.
>>71594894
Book Stannis won't burn Shireen. He's currently down by Winterfell and she's on the Wall.
It'll be Melisandre doing her own thing to bring Jon back.
>>71595865
Basically this, Ramsey is pretty much taking the whole flayed man sigil and Bolton house words too literally.
>>71595956
Bad writing to accommodate a shitty character.
Bane?
>>71595956
He intended to kill Ramsay the second his other child was born
But the Bolton maester was enough of a fucking retard to announce it in front of Ramsay and Roose, at which point Roose thought 'shit better play it cool', but of course that didn't work.
As to everyone accepting Ramsay's leadership, Dumb&Dumber are to blame for that, but I don't think it's completely improbable that Ramsay will try to kill Roose in the books. I just think he'll die very shortly after.
>>71595865
iirc in the books Roose dont see anything wrong with Ramsays sadistic streak, he just think he is a bit too open about it
>mother was raped into the dirt by father
>mother brought you to lord saying he's your son
>father almost whips your mother and throws you in the river
>decides to keep you like an autist
>lords his trueborn heir over you
>teaches you to be a cruel sadistic wild dog
>probably around murder and torture since the day you were born
ramsay did nothing wrong
I miss ramsay
>>71595956
With an actual heir born Ramsey got replaced.
Roose wasn't going to sit idly by while Ramsey killed Walda or the newborn like Ramsey killed Roose's first heir, Domeric.
>>71594714
I actually like how he is in the show. Him being attractive makes his motivations unclear, and the character more scary. Le ugly guy getting revenge on the world wouldn't have been that interesting, and if nothing else I'd choose getting the performance we got out of Iwan Rheon over being true to the book in this instance.
>>71585809
Nope, he was well acted but poorly written. Based on the show, I'd say he just lacked emotion, and in trying to impress his dad took the flayed man and all the stories he heard about the Boltons way too seriously.
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>>71587667
Grim man bitched at Tolkie about realism and he does this?
It was all a prank bro
>>71585809
>I mean yeah, he was obviously a psychopath, but why? Did Roose diddle him as a kid or something?
How much feelgood education do you have to ingest to come to the conclusion that there's always a reason why people do bad things?
Some people just want to see the world burn, it can be as simple as that.
>>71596147
>I actually like how he is in the show. Him being attractive makes his motivations unclear, and the character more scary. Le ugly guy getting revenge on the world wouldn't have been that interesting, and if nothing else I'd choose getting the performance we got out of Iwan Rheon over being true to the book in this instance.
I definitely agree with this, so I don't really care. It's just annoying to see showfags swoon over him so much. A testament to how fickle people are.
>>71596265
And a low empathy for others certainly plays a large part in that.
If you can't understand this, you're either retarded or a butthurt psycho yourself. Which is to say, you're retarded either way.
>>71596075
Yeah true, he believes that he can tame it to his own advantage.
From what I recall, he sends Ramsay as his envoy only to people he wants killed. But he does become angered with Ramsay's behaviour in Winterfell when his sadistic nature is witnessed by all the lords of the North.
>>71596320
You can have empathy and still want to be a destructive asshole though.
>>71596749
Yes, but it's more common for people with low empathy to act this way.
>>71585809
>he was obviously a psychopath, but why
Brain problems. Being a psychopath has nothing to do with past history. You are like that from birth, unless of course you suffer brain damage.
>>71586903
You might want to look up the 'Bolt-on Theory' for further info about what anon said. Not necessarily true, but I find it kinda cool.
Simply my favorite lord.
All the boltons had some crazy shit fetishes. They all did that shit on the side and "hide" it from the outside world
because ramsey was ostracized being a bastard, he didn't feel like hididing it. probably doubled down to prove he was a real bolton.
There are few moments in books and show where roose acknowledges the weird shit that ramsay does saying he gets why he is doing it, but there is no reason for him to make it blatant.
>>71596265
>some people just want to watch the world burn
>he thinks a meme quote from a capeshit flick is a deep psychological insight
I'll bet you wanted to start a real fight club in high school
>>71585809
Did they ever explain why he was such a strategic mastermind
> cripples stannis army with 20 good men and raiding tactics
> wreks stannis army with little effort
> tortures and breaks his enemys geting vauable info and intellugence
> presses his claims at the right junctures to consolidate power
> outsmarts jon snow on the battlefield and makes him look like a little bitch
How was he so invincible
>>71586840
You must be one ugly fuck if you consider show Ramsey handsome.
>>71597164
the plot needed him to be invincible until he was not
>>71595531
Plus he didn't mind being seen naked by Arya in Harrenhal.
>>71597164
Plot
>>71597164
Because the writers wanted a villain who seemed like a real threat. Character motivations and in-world limitations are always secondary to maintaining at least one predictable baddie-goodie plot so plebs can casually tune in and know who to cheer for/against
I watched the GoT finale with a girl who just said "yaaas bitch" every time Cersei or Dany rise in power, who didn't know who half the characters were, and ranted about jonsa until I reminded her they were raised as siblings. This is the primary demographic of GoT. If you want something subtle and perfectly, internally coherent, go watch Wolf Hall, not the current cultural fad
>>71595449
Shh we are trying to get niggas to read here.
>>71595531
And he talks in like 2pt font.
>you will never live in an alternate reality where Roose beats Ramsay to the punch and stabs him in the heart
>>71597822
This is realistically what would happen.
Roose is too fucking smart to just have some idiot blurt out that Ramsay's successor was born in clear hearing of both them.
>>71589220
>>Dany's legion of furries.
What's this referring to? The only book-only armies I can remember is some mercenaries and the conscripts with shaved heads.
>>71597164
bad writing
bryan cogman is a terrible writer
>>71596147
>Le ugly guy getting revenge
>le pretty psychopath
Same boring shit no matter how you turn it
>>71595317
That's pretty good
>>71598894
The brazen beasts.
Dany's secret police which wore animal masks/helmets made of bronze.
>>71585809
I honestly disagree with the notion that molestation has anywhere near the emotional, physical, or mental impact psychologists claim molested victims suffer from during their early childhood, an act many times shown to be fabricated or imagined at the moment when under the scrutiny of social workers. If an adult physically molested a child only once during the victim's life, then it is not a major concern. Anymore than an inebriated guardian has severely beaten their child should be, especially if it was only a one-time accident.
>>71597164
It's literally just plot armor, just like how Jon managed to dodge all those arrows targeted right at him despite having little-to-no armor and was rushing towards the enemy lines. Funny how the writers of GoT love to brag how their characters die in realistic ways, how often it occurs, and how they criticize the other shows for cliche writing.
>>71597164
Tbh he didn't need to be that much of a tactical genius to achieve what he did.
> cripples stannis army with 20 good men and raiding tactics
Not that hard to do - Stannis was leading an already demoralised mercenary army out of their element in the far north. Not too hard to sneak in and start a few fires/fuck shit up.
> wreks stannis army with little effort
Wrecks Stannis's unmounted and outnumbered army? Not that much of a feat.
> tortures and breaks his enemys geting vauable info and intellugence
Anyone idiot can flay a man till he talks.
> presses his claims at the right junctures to consolidate power
He was opportunistic and had a bit of luck and powerful house on his side.
> outsmarts jon snow on the battlefield and makes him look like a little bitch
Again he didn't really outsmart him rather than just having a far superior force at the start of the battle.
>>71595531
Why couldnt they do this Roose in the show?
>lord gets to be the first one to fuck the bride on her wedding night
the more I learn about this lore the more Im convinced this fat old fuck is legit autistic
>>71599550
>Again he didn't really outsmart him rather than just having a far superior force at the start of the battle.
But he did.
By letting Rickon run and shooting at him with a bow he made Jon charge forward and in order to save Jon his entire army charged as well.
Near in mind that Jon's original plan was to hold the ground and dig trenches to trap Bolton cavalry (poor plan to begin with).
>>71599754
Outsmarting a Stark isn't something to brag about, you know.
>>71599704
It's historically accurate though.
Known as "droit de cuisage" in France.
>>71599842
No argument there.
>>71585809
Straight white male with power.
>>71589220
Deep ones and some weird stone material (the iron islands throne is made of it, also ruins in weird places) are mentioned multiple times.
Also the golden company is never mentioned in the show. In the book they even have a possible Targaryen in their ranks.
>>71587255
Yes, but then I guess you could say a lot of things in the show are... irregular.
Just get on with the White Walker invasion already. I want everyone death.
>>71599704
Is this bait
Shit like that happened all the time in the medieval age. It was a pretty fucked up time period. Everyone was retarded, life expectancy was extremely low for males, war crimes were common place.
I'm still alive, guys. C-Can I please have a scene?
>>71599704
Prima Nocta was actually a thing. Maybe you should stick to watching wrestling.
>>71601315
>>71599855
>>71600883
>taking Braveheart as historical fact
The target audience of GoT.
>>71601271
>>71601271
>in 2 years he'll be six feet talk with a full beard trying to pass on as a 12 year old kid
>>71601439
But it happened all the time, everywhere, anon. Haven't you seen the movies? :^)
>>71595531
>He does not love, he does not hate, he does not grieve. This is a game to him, a Game of Thrones.
What did he mean by this?
>>71599657
D&D have put great effort into avoiding all the spooky/weird stuff, like Lady Stoneheart, Jojenpaste or Undead Gregor having either Joffrey's head sewn onto his neck or having no head at all.
>>71585809
>Did they ever actually explain
Nope, not going to either. They can't even explain simple shit like where the fuck Gendry rowed off to or where the black pirate friend of Davos went
>>71587062
no. its just a bastard theory from a more popular theory which states that roose is a white walker/ who knows how to use faces like the faceless men, and he is this immortal being who swaps bodies every now and then
>>71585809
he was a motherless bastard
>>71585809
>mean yeah, he was obviously a psychopath, but why?
Because it was his big acting gig and he stole his character from Alex from a Clockwork Orange, which is what Heath Ledger took inspiration from. He's just a fucking thief, and a pleb thief at that.
>>71587596
except robb wouldnt have lost had roose not betrayed him.
if roose didnt betray him, the freys wouldnt have dared act alone. so the red wedding wouldnt happen it was only with the confirmed help from the boltons that the freys acted,
robb wouldve been able to assault casterly rock . and take the westerlands. cutting off tywins forces, leaving tywin stranded in enemy territory with no supply chain.
tywin wouldve had to retreat to kings landing, or at least to the crownlands so as to resupply and reinforce. that'd be the smart move on his part
but this is tywin. tywin wouldnt tolerate a single day of his ancestral seat being taken, he would march on casterly rock immediately.
his army would be weaker than robbs and robb would have time to strategise a plan to engage tywin.
kings landing meanwhile will be under stannis control due to the lack of reinforcements from tywin, who never came.
stannis would be king
if tywins army wasnt dead stannis would demand he lay down his arms and swear fealty to him.
from this point its too vague to guess. stannis doesnt recognise robbs claim to the north as king,
tywins children would all be dead, with only his last son in robbs hands. tywin would have to surrender or face his line ending.
robb and tywin would make peace terms.the lannisters will get back casterly rock but jaime will remain a captive until the day tywin dies or some shit. robb would then get back up north beyond the neck and make preparations to defend against stannis.
>>71599657
>>71602034
The actor got Roose's vibe down pretty well. For whatever reason, HBO didn't want to dwell on creepy Bolton lore while Ramsay did all of his edgelord stuff. Dunno why they chose Ramsay as the big bad, frankly. As the show went on, the material D&D gave Michael McElhatton declined in quality as they set Ramsay up to be the final boss in S6. Check these out, for example. They could have gone with book Roose if they were inclined to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfXCZF8Pbuo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G65Tbnnxgzg
