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Where will you be when /got/ is sentenced to die Edition

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>>71565191
>>71565191
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Azor Jon
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>>71567694
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Czechbro on reddit says the s7 episode names just leaked
Episode 1: The Old Ways
Episode 2: Snow
Episode 3: The Maester's Gambit
Episode 4: Silence
Episode 5: The Blood of Kings
Episode 6: Fire and Salt
Episode 7: Hightower
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4th for a cute
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>>71567691
except sansa literally could have skipped jon and his pack of wildlings and went straight to littlefinger and his forces for help and not only would they still have won but sansa would be sitting as queen in the north right now.

jon did nothing and deserves credit for nothing.
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guys

is there anything to talk about anymore?
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>>71567701
azor means bumsex
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FROM THE DUSTY MESA
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>>71567694
Right here.

Here We Stand!
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Can someone please explain how the fuck did Sansa die in S1e1?
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>>71567739
kek no one gives a shit about your """""""""""""leaks""""""""""""""
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>>71567746
The audience knows the full details, but everyone else does not. All they know that is that Jon:

>is a bastard
>became Lord Commander
>brought in Wildings to Castle Black
>died
>came back to life
>tried to rally troops, but was denied
>convinced the Wildlings to come to fight for Winterfell
>fought with few men
>The Vale came to help (the Tullys Cat's family)
>Jon defeated Ramsay Bolton

Nobody knows that Sansa and Littlefinger got dealings going on. So it's just going to seem like Jon is fucking amazing.
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>>71567739
>Fire and Salt
Fuck, Dany and Yara gonna scissor?
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>>71567754
The lore?
Hype for the next season?
The characters?
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>>71567827
I bet Yara's got a bigger clit than Chyna.
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THE LAST ADVENTURE OF THE MOST DEVOUT NUTELLA
>wakes up in a dark room tied to a table and poured with wine
>finally gets Cersei's confession but it's already too late to save her soul
>Cersei talks and talks and talks
>for Seven's sake kill me already I am ready since the day I was born
>"lol meet sir Rotten who is going to rape and torture you for Gods know how long shame shame shame"
>gets scared
>gets sick of all that mundane shit
>gets inconsolable and extremely mad because of Smirkfu's woeful fate
>falls into the Rage of The Warrior and breaks free of the fetters
>beats the Mountain violently with the Book of the Father till he turns into a pile of forcemeat
>imposes the punishment of the Mother upon Cersei so she won't be able to drink wine ever again
>goes to the Young Rose's place of death to mourn her in prayer
>suddenly has a divine afflatus
>resurrects Lady Stonesmirk using the power of The Seven
>slowly dies in the arms of her beloved Rose with a faint smile on her lips
>"I am ready to meet the Gods"
>finally
>becomes Nutella the Shadow and secretly watches her sweet little queen praying
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Right as I saw Lady Margery's final moments, as she was about to be consumed by wildfire flames, I got extremely triggered. I thought of young women dying by the hands of religious fanatics and sucide bombers. We must not let this happen again.
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>>71567827
BIG COCK
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>>71567609
no it literally hasnt

the northern lords still were using the old adage of "I know no king but the king whos name is stark"


its just that the writers are too retarded to realize that the circumstances under which they chose jon as that "stark" instead of sansa are ridiculous and illogical
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JUST
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>>71567817
>my dick will never be Sophie's straw

IT'S NOT FAIR!

San Diego Comic Con here I cum.
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>>71567827
I hate that wig now.
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>>71567739
I wouldn't think they'd name the episodes until later, because they change a lot of the content during filming.

So basically fuck off with your fake shit.
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>>71567526
>betrayed Ned and married into two enemy houses

Publicly, Sansa was held hostage, her life forfeit if she refused the marriage. Any reports of Joffrey's cruelty before his death would make her more sympathetic.

About Ramsay, I can't help but give characters a pass on incredibly obvious dumb shit, and instead blame the writers. There was no reason to marry him. LF had no plan, she had no plan, there was nothing to be gained, etc. It was D&D making characters act completely against their best interests to enhance ramsay's villainy.

>Robb and Stannis

Robb loved him as a true brother and wanted him to carry on the war with the Lannisters if he fell in battle, because every other stark was reported dead, or captive, with a marriage to a Lannister on the way. Stannis wanted his support as a legitimized Stark, which is strange considering both of them knew Sansa was in winterfell.
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>>71567879
;_;
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>>71567818
Jon admitted to sansa that she deserves the credit. So basically when the lords were verbally sucking jons dick he knew in that moment that he didnt deserve it. he could have spoke up at any point and admitted he was being given credit he didnt deserve.
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>>71567754
There is ALWAYS something to talk about
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>>71567744
wew
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Why isn't the show comfy anymore?

I'm rewatching S3 right now and every scene is atmospheric.
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>>71567694
Meera Queen of Westeros.
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>>71567744
>she actually thought her running scenes would be CG
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>>71567907
Will she stick with the short hairdo?
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>>71567861
Where does the rape meme come from?
I heard Preston say it too.
Am I being autistic, there was nothing in that scene that implied she was getting raped.
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>>71567746
How exactly does this explain how the KotV would have been able to capture Winterfell without a prolonged siege you dumbfuck? They NEEDED Wun Wun to capture the castle.
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>>71567920
S1 with Ned investigating the death of Jon Arryn were the comfiest moments of the show.
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>>71567930
i hope she gets to put on a fancy dress when she gets to winterfell like gilly did
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>>71567865
What is this autism
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>>71567739
>Silence
Aeron POV scenes please
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>>71567911
>There is ALWAYS something to talk about
like what

the only reason we've been able to have discussions is because of latefags who keep asking the same exact questions throughout the week
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>>71567944
Yes, it's poteric. She became Tommyn.
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>>71567947
I immediately thought it would be rape, given that's Gregor's most favourite hobby.
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*glub glub*
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So now that the dust has settled, what was the best meme of the season? Best/worst line?
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Press F if you feel torn up and lost inside over Smirkfu's cruel undeserved fate
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>>71567909
Yes, tell all the Lords to shut up then tell them they're all stupid and chose the wrong person.

Then tell them good luck fighting beside Sansa on the field of battle when she's off to the sidelines against an enemy she can't just have thousands die to draw out then pincer maneuver.
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>>71567950
implying they couldnt have rallied even more of the other northern houses behind their cause if they knew they weren't fighting a hopeless battle made up of a pack of untrained wildlings and 62 mormonts?
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Stannis, the First of His Name, lusted after the throne after the sudden kinslaying of his brother, King Renly the Rightful, in the year 299 AC. He is better remembered as Stannis the Villain, and it was a well-earned sobriquet, for no more villainous king ever wanted to sit atop the Iron Throne. His reign began with blood magic and ended in blood magic as well.
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>>71567954
The show went downhill after the death of Jory Cassel.
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>>71567955
hnnnnnnnng please let it happen
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>>71567971
What are the Maesters up to? And will this be explored in the show?
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>>71568002
you realize kings and queens arent expected to fight on the front lines of battles right, unless you want them to fucking die
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>>71567694
>>71567728
Robb was not SELECTED! They fucking seceded. Read the fucking books. It wasn't as if they sat around in tents discussing the ramifications of secession or who should lead them if they seceded. If it was an "election" why did no one discuss the possibility of selecting anyone else?

If I had to guess, I would say that what happened was that GRRM had Robb write the letter declaring Jon his heir with the intention of having the letter resurface and using it to crown Jon later on down the line. BUT, because D&D are short sighted and eliminate plot points that end up becoming important later on all the time (GRRM has called them out on this before http://grrm.livejournal.com/427713.html), they cut out the letter thinking it didn't matter and ended up shooting themselves in the foot. Now we have this ridiculous plot hole, and Jonfags are doing mental gymnastics to prove that it makes sense when it clearly does not.
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>>71567754
>is there anything to talk about anymore?

What goes on here? When are we going to have a show about this area of Westeros?
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>>71567909
You aren't wrong in that, but Sansa also claimed that she didn't want to take her parent's bedroom or be 'leader.' Those words came out of her own mouth.

Asha/Yara told Theon that she wanted to rule the Ironborn which is why Theon supported her. People claim that Jon isn't listening to Sansa, but she sucks at communicating too, because she's also a Stark and that's their main problem.

Like when she was bitching at Jon that no one asked her about her opinion on Ramsey. Why does someone have to ask? That's not very 'leader-like.' She should have just interjected and said it.

You think Jon is going to tell her to 'shut the fuck up' or let anyone else say that to his little sister?
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>>71567902
>Robb loved him as a true brother and wanted him to carry on the war with the Lannisters if he fell in battle, because every other stark was reported dead, or captive, with a marriage to a Lannister on the way. Stannis wanted his support as a legitimized Stark, which is strange considering both of them knew Sansa was in winterfell.
None of this matters. Two of the most powerful men in Westeros established a precedent for letting Jon leave The Watch without repercussion. Cersei of the books also entertained the idea of sending somebody to assassinate Jon because she thought he might try to take Winterfell. Only autists on the internet get hung up on this legals hit in a medieval fantasy feudal world. The fake people that actually live in it certainly don't.
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>>71568000
>undeserved
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>>71567995
>Best
Big Cock

>Worst

No Cock
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>>71568000
It's her own fault.

If she had given a shit about Tommen she would've been back at the Red Keep so she could arrive to the trial with her husband
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>>71568000
trips confirm her resurrection is at hand
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>>71568002
or he could just give his sister the credit even he himself admitted she deserves, its not that hard
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>>71567995
>my niece and nephew? let's go murder them

>jorah go find a cure for greyscale

>i drink and i jape

>weak men will never rule dorne again
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>>71567817

>Be millionaire
>Still get coffee from McDolan's
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>>71568038
>Westeros
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>>71568030
That's now how the Starks roll.

Not even how Bobby, Tywin and past kings and Lords rolled in ASOIAF
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So Bran will cross the wall, go to Winterfell and there he will have a vision where he is once again seen by the Night's King.
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>>71568039
>or be 'leader.'

she never said this.
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I have never felt a stronger connection to a character before. Like him, I also walk around filthy and non bathed because it really pisses the normies/nobles off.
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>>71568066
That'd just ruin the scene and hype as the North is now reuniting under the Starks and seceding
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>>71568030
>you realize kings and queens arent expected to fight on the front lines of battles righ

Medieval kings were very much expected to fight at the front.
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>>71568114
He was our guy to the end.
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>>71568004
Numbers only matter for an assault. To get to the point of being able to assault, siege works have to be constructed. For siege works, supply lines and other logistical infrastructure has to be established and defensive fortifications have to be built to defend from counterattack and projectiles firing from the castle. Besieging or assaulting a castle in winter is hard enough in winter to where most of the time people would just wait out winter and then assault it in the spring. In a decade long winter that isn't going to be possible.
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>>71568116
yeah it would ruin the jon circlejerk and thats why it didnt happen, youre right
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Apologize
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>>71568114
He wore a fresh sack for the trial and the Gods rightly killed him for his decadent ways.
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REMINDER that the only people who agree with /got/ that the show is bad are people /got/ also hate:

>an autistic swede
>an autistic State Department bureaucrat
>3 booksnob women on tumblr

Versus

>every professional critic in the world
>an audience that was the biggest ever this year
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>>71568132
are you really asserting that literally the only way any force could possibly beat ramsay is if they had a giant
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>>71568145
Well since it's the Lord's circlejerking, I guess?
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>A week later Sansafags and Branfags are still whining about Jon being king like little bitches

Yes... yes... let me bathe in a sea of your tears, it feels so good.
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>>71567947
From Cersei saying SHAME several times I guess. Rape is super humiliating, especially for nun.
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>>71568038
We already saw Vaes Dothrak, Lhazar, the red waste, vaes tolorro, and Qarth

Yi Ti is China, Leng is Japan, Moraq is India, the Jogos Nhai are Mongols riding Zebras, Asshai is a place where everything is tolerated including all magic etc, the shadow lands are populated by the most feared raiders in the world and contain spots even the shadow men don't tread, north of the shadow lands are a bunch of Lovecraft references and north of those are cannibals

Sothoryos is full of diseases that the native species are immune to (they aren't human) and the dragonriders of Valyria weren't able to reach the southern end

Not very feasible for use unless Jorah travels through them or something
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Jon and Sansa will have the dirty sex.
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>>71567694
>Wake up tmrw
>You're Queen Cersei

What do?
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>>71568188
THE KING IN THE NORTH
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>>71568126
>to the end

Show me a body.
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>>71568187
im saying jon is kind of a piece of shit for sitting there taking the credit from his sister

i guess jonautists dont care about this though
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>>71568002
All he needed to do was acknowledge her. He didn't have to renounce shit, just make it public.
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>>71568211
Go chill out with Qyburn
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>LOOK DOWN
why would lysa tell her to do this when you ride a roller coaster
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Is Game of Thrones the biggest ruse of all time. Starts off with based bobby b patriarchy. Lots of nudity and sex. Now it's all about stronk womyn characters.
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>>71568217
Its ashes m8...
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>>71568182
You keep reading what you want to instead of what's being said. Besieging and then assaulting a castle is typically a long and difficult process, even more so in winter. Jon and Wun Wun's presence meant that this process was instantaneous. It is a fucking fact that CIA wouldn't have captured Winterfell in anything less than several months without Jon having brought Wun Wun. And that's if they didn't just freeze and starve to death like Stannis's forces in the books are doing at present.
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>>71568211
>poor little lord commander
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>>71568211
Stay in King's Landing, dare them to attack me cause I'll burn every fucking thing.

>>71568219
I'm not a jonautist, stop being paranoid.

And he gave Sansa credit in person, no reason to interrupt the Northern Lords and the Vale to give them a lesson. For all you know he'll feel guilty and talk shit out with Sansa and the other Lords next season.
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>>71568217
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>>71568030
Kings who fight with their men on the battlefield receive a boost for their army.

110% brah
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>>71568219
Why would the credit go to Salsa when Jon did all the fighting and Salsa didn't even trust in Jon causing Jon to almost die?
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>>71568250

>implying the seven didn't lift him up to the heavens before the wildfire got him
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>>71568219
>I just want to thank Sansa for bringing in the Vale without my knowledge and at the last possible second. She is a true hero to us all and all of the hundreds of men who were killed.
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>>71568266
Not him but
>books
>mattering

Good one.
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>>71568296
except jon himself admitted that sansa is the reason they won

you can keep making up your own fanfiction about what happened but the fact is jon himself acknowledged that sansa deserves the credit lmao
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>>71568294
kek
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>>71568188
Jesus he's a short little fucker
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>>71568219
Sansa deceived several houses of the north and got more people killed than was necessary due to her deception. Even if you ignore all of the other unpopular shit she may or may not have done in the eyes of popular perception, they wouldn't like being lied to. Jon shouldn't have even let her off as easy as he did.

>waits for next "lol ya but jonautists r dumb xD" post
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>>71568226
Yes, stand up and say Sansa deserves all the credit for getting the Vale army and end the scene off on that, of course, much better way of ending a scene. How about trying to get them chant Queen in the North too cause she'll be his partner in this.

/s
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>JON SNOW LOST THE BATTLE AND WAS SAVED BY SANSA AND LITTLEFINGER

>HE'S A DESERTER FROM THE NIGHT'S WATCH. HE SAYS HE DIED AND REVIVED THOUGH LMAO

>HE'S A BASTARD

>HE DIDN'T AVENGE SHIT EITHER

>SANSA IS THE QUEEN IN THE NORTH

>THE RED WOLF
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>>71568346
Lady Sandra's a Bolton
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>>71568046
>Two of the most powerful men in Westeros established a precedent for letting Jon leave The Watch without repercussion.

One of the most powerful men wanted his half-brother back, and the other had no other option but the real Sandra Stark who they didn't remember.

The Northern Lords, on the other hand, didn't support anyone until after the Vale rode in. Some seemed hostile to Jon and Sansa when asked for men, others just hid while the fighting went on, then suddenly they're bowing and scraping and talking about the KitN. They had no use for Jon because they're disloyal shits, but they still let a NW deserter who hand-delivered himself to them walk away with head still attached.

>The fake people that actually live in it certainly don't

That's a weakness of the show, not a strength.
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>>71568332
> Jon shouldn't have even let her off as easy as he did.


but in canon, as in, what actually happened, as in, not your interpretation of what happened, as in, how jon actually feels about it, sansa is the reason they won
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>>71568329
Yeah, he's a little fella
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>>71568316
Stannis's men were in the same position in the show prior to Melly Sanders burning Shireen
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>>71568381
Yeah. And she's also the reason Jon almost died.

She even looked disappointed to see that he was still slive.
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Am I supposed to give a single fuck about Yara? The score for all her scenes seems to always swell up like something triumphant is happening, but none of her scenes, her acting, her writing ever make me the slightest bit interested in her or any of the Iron Born including Theon's current arc.
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>>71568382
For thou
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>>71568391
Show Stannis was in an infinitely worse position because he was up against Show Ramsay instead of Book Ramsay.
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>>71568346
Good thing that didn't happen in the real show, that would have been dumb as fuck. Sansa's no leader, I think every sane person can agree on that.
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>>71568235
YOU CAN SEE THE CAMERA IN THE MIRROR BRAVO DUBBLE DEE
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>>71568282
>dare them to attack me cause I'll burn every fucking thing.
>tfw Cersei does exactly that and Jaime kills her just like he did to the Mad King
A-Am I poet now, Dabid?
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>>71568286
>>71568250

He's literally 100% alive, no memes. Everyone knows that in a show like GoT, if we don't see them die, they're not dead (aka Hound, Stannis, Blackfish). We saw him ENGULFED by the wildfire, not killed. Expect to see him back in Season 7.
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Anyone else feel like D&D didn't show Stannis' death because they were considering whether or not they really wanted to kill him? They gave some BS excuse about showing his death would be to "brutal" or something, and yet we got full on screen deaths of Robb and Cat.

This is why they had to mention he was dead literally every episode.
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>>71568417
Get this vibe too with several characters, feels like I'm being poked whilst D&D repeatedly say "you should care about this"
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>>71568452
Punished High Sparrow?
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>>71568442
holy shit you can lol
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>>71568124
Expected and required are not the same thing. In a hereditary monarchy, right of inheritance trumps qualification every time. There are plenty of Lords/Kings both in ASOIAF and IRL who had relatives that would have been far more ideal candidates to run the Kingdom, but that doesn't matter. It's not how the law works. Walder Frey, Wyman Manderly, Doran Martell, Aerys II are all examples of Kings/Lords who could not or would not accompany their men into battle. That did not prohibit them from being the lawful ruler.
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>>71568452
>Stannis

Confirmed that Based Brienne slayed that old cuck
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>>71568417
I like her but I'm not infested in her either.
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>>71568456
Yeah. They probably thought Winds was gonna drop and left it open in case Stannis did something big in it.
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>>71568423
kek that's true

I still don't think book Stannis will last much longer. He might survive and retreat back to the wall or capture Winterfell only to be surrounded by forces from The Vale. Then rez'd Jon will show up with his wall climbers and giants and attack the Boltons or have to choose between Stannis or Sansa (he'll choose family). Then the books will be on nearly the same course as the show.
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>>71567920
The plots have ballooned too big now. It's about deciding the fate of the tealm instead of dealing with petty office politics in King's Landing. I think the show is still comfy in filler sequences like Bronn and Jaime in the Riverlands.
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>>71568456
probably

>mfw stannis was actually glamoured the whole time and that's why EP1 ended on smelly melly revealing herself
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>>71568456
Want to finger her on a horse while she calls me brother
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>>71568325
If jon were to tell his banner men, how will they look at Sansa?
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>>71568212

Fuck the North
Who wants to be king of a bunch of fairweather faggots?
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>>71568452
>implying he wasn't fucking disintegrated
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>>71568426
And what has Jon done to show all the lords from the North and the Vale that he's such a great leader?
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>>71568000
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>>71568543

>>71568294
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>>71568524
Yeah that was pretty good actually, hopefully with half the characters being grouped together now we can have a slightly more relaxed pace
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>>71568552
You are dedicated my friend
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>>71568346
>I did not fight by Jon's side on the field of battle.
>If I had, I'd be dead right now
>A man can only ask forgiveness for not wanting to die
>Sansa: You said House Stark was dead Lord Glover, and now come crawling at a Stark's feet asking for forgiveness after I've won. Oathbreakers don't get forgiven, they get hanged. Royce, fetch me rope.
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>>71568538
they would probably say shes the one who avenged the red wedding and all the other bloated nonsense they were saying about jon
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Will she ever have sex?
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>>71568452

He's literally the only character we see die by the wildfire. If he's alive, which would imply he stopped burning the moment the cut happened for some reason, he would LITERALLY be a literal charred skeleton.
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>>71568452
the skin was burned off of his body, you could literally see his bones
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>>71568625
She'll get Pod's rod after she meets Brienne in the Riverlands
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>>71568521
Don't know about that familia. Winterfell is in more trouble than Stannis imo. You've got Manderly and the loyal houses murdering Freys and Boltons, discord and tension rising, and Roose knowing he's not gonna live to see another male heir grow up.

Once the Manderly pikes and Stannis's camp deal with the freys outside of Winterfell, they march and the loyalists inside open the gates. Or they sneak in or use a glamour or do whatever they're gonna do; Stannis is going to take winterfell, just in time for the Others to pop in unannounced.
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>>71568626

>>71568294

Expect Tommen and Marg to be back as well, we didn't see them die. Only confirmed KL death is Pycelle.
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GOT ripping Scott tenorman must die
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>>71568549
Well he's actually been a leader before. He's actually participated in battles before. He was the one they were selling as the leader to the houses they were recruiting while Sansa was busy whining about people not asking for her opinion and talking shit to their potential vassals.
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Jesus, imagine the kinky sex you could have with Arya as your wife.

Girls of any age, height, hair color. Skinny, average, curvy. Big tits, big ass, ireland style.
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>>71567947
I didn't think it was rape either. I thought he was breaking her fingers or something because the screaming started before he could've even started raping her. But either way rape is going to happen eventually
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>>71568625
>Maisie nudes
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>>71568705
when?
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>>71568549
>Lord Commander of the Night's Watch

Are you baiting people on purpose?
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Two points for discussion:

Has GRRM made any salty comments about the show this season?

What plotpoints do you think this season spoiled from future material?
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Does Cersei even know what happened up North and with Dany coming to invade?
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Is hymenautist gone
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>>71568570
I am sorry but it is the only way I know to reduce the pain from double loss.
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>>71568708
He's notable for being murdered by his underlings and then deserting after hanging some dudes. Sansa, on the other hand is famous for swimming in a freezing river with her clothes on and not dying of hypothermia.
The choice is clear imo
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>>71568805
>The choice is clear imo

they both sound like shit. so bran?
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>>71568692
>a scene wherein Cersei inspects Tommen's dead body
>still alive
????
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>Ayra didn't kill Jaime, one of the people who was directly responsible for killing her parents

Dnd quality writing
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>>71568038
A spinoff of those places would be great.
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>>71568795
Considering fucking oldtown thought jeor fooking morning was still LC I'm pretty sure no one is aware of what's happening anywhere else
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>>71568769
>G-Guys. I...uh... I think I'm qualified enough to be King because one time I was the leader of a much smaller group of men, and they hated me so much that they literally murdered me for it.
He's got my vote.
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>>71568833
Isaac already said Bran isn't going to be interested in that if/when he comes south
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>>71568787
Cersei using wildfire in kings landing.
That's it.
I think one of the reasons the show has dropped in quality so badly is because they have run out of book material and are just having to make it up themselves now.
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>>71568549
>>71568708
>>71568805
There's the issue of disconnect in the books and show. If Jon becomes KitN in the books there will arguably be more reason supporting it because BookJon has gotten involved with Northern houses by discussing the integration of the wildlings with them and assisting Alys Karstark. There's also all of his efforts securing supplies, rebuilding castles, building greenhouses, recruiting Wildlings into the NW, and dealing with the Iron Bank. Basically he's much more than "action man" as he's been portrayed in the show. If the show still has to reach the same major plot points without the same character development, it seems to make less sense to the viewer.

Also it's been made abundently clear that nobody gives a shit about his deserting. And his being murdered by underlings is not something that everyone would assume is his fault. Usually the murderers are the ones held to be traitors in that situation. You don't hear anyone singing the praises of Karl fookin Tanner south of the wall.
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>>71568787
>What plotpoints do you think this season spoiled from future material?

The Sept blowing up is GRRM cause it's something he stole from history.
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>>71568787
He released an Arianne chapter with
>You want to know what the Sand Snakes, Prince Doran, Areo Hotah, Ellaria Sand, Darkstar, and the rest will be up to in WINDS OF WINTER? Quite a lot, actually.
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>>71568855
im not sure what that has to do with literally anything
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>>71568842
He's not on the list faggot. Walder is right at the top.
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>>71568883
KL is gonna burn, not just the sept senpai
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>>71568803
Don't be sorry I love what you do

I can't wait for old nan to tell bran of the tale of Septa Nutella
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>>71567995
Worst line would probably be Tyrion telling jokes.

Best lines would probably be Qyburn confronting Pycelle.
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how euron will find wood for his ships?
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>>71568855
brans not interested in the same way jons not interested, nobody is arguing this point

if the responsibility fell on his shoulders he would do it exactly like he did in season 2
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>>71568787
>What plotpoints do you think this season spoiled from future material?
Jon being king and making Sansafags and Branfags incessantly whine about it on the internet
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If the the White Walkers cannot breach the Wall because of it's magic, how come wights can be raised south of the Wall? If they can control their undead army without even having to cross the Wall, why not just chill out up North and kill the humans without ever having to to put themselves at risk?
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>>71568713
>shame
without rape it sounds meaningless, but yes, both rape and torture happened
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>>71568875
But GRRM gave them all the major story beats, even from future material. So even though they don't have actual books to work from, they can still spoil what will happen
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>>71568845
>Considering fucking oldtown thought jeor fooking morning was still LC

So what your saying is people in the Stormlands still think Stannis is alive and their king?
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>>71568038
>the thousand lslands
Oh it shows, you fat fuck.
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>>71568885
>tfw I hate book Dorne almost as much as show Dorne
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>>71568625
Pretty sure she aint a virgin
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>>71568949
nobody is going to be whining about how it happens in the books because george isnt a stupid hack only doing it for pandering purposes and it will make sense since A. robbs will B. sansa wont be there and C. nobody knows bran is alive
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>>71568885
It's impossible to not be salty about the Dorne rape.
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>>71568964
>still think Stannis is alive and their king
Remind you of anyone?
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>>71568877
Right, they butchered Jon's leadership skills for more battles. It's cathartic for the audience to see Jon crowned, because of how hard he's worked and how sick he's fought, but it doesn't make any sense to make the dude who suicide charges a superior force your king.

You'll need a new one in a week
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>>71568985
Well that I agree with. It makes no fucking sense for them to cut out Robb's will only to make Jon King.
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Reminder that White Walkers can only kill people with the blood of the first men as they were programmed to do. They not wights to kill everyone else which is how they betrayed the children. This is why they ignore and don't kill Sam twice
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>>71568855
I love Isaac more than any other faggot on this board, but he does not write the show, nor does he have any idea how things will (or should) play out. And not for nothing, but Kit did spend an entire year telling the press that Jon would not be returning for season six. You can't exactly take the word of the actors at face value.
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The Riverlands plot was the stupidest shit ever.

Could someone explain to me the purpose?
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>>71569009
He's literally the worst general in the show.
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>>71569022
so do you cede the point that jons crowning in the show was shittily written and the complaints against it are valid
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>>71569032
>Reminder that White Walkers can only kill people with the blood of the first men as they were programmed to do.

What about all those Night's Watch people killed who didn't have First Men blood in them?
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>>71569037
>I love Isaac more than any other faggot on this board

excuse me
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>>71569044
Well, to be fair, Stannis burning his only heir thirty minutes from Winterfell because he felt a sneeze coming on would probably make him a worse leader.

Definitely the worst living (undead?) general though
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>>71569052
Sure, it was poorly written, I just don't think it makes any more sense for Sansa to be crowned so it doesn't bother me that they went with the one who has a benis.
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>>71569042
Literally filler

Only reason was to get Walder Frey back on screen so Arya could teleport and kill him
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>>71568842
How was he kill ned the father killed rob and cat
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>>71569042
In the books it's to have Jaime become a better man and to break away from Cersei.

In the show its to get him away from Cersei so she could blow up the sept which might end up leading to him becoming a better man as he now sees what she did and becomes disillusioned.
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>>71569080
You heard me.
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>>71569080
BACK THE FUCK OFF?!
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>>71569078
Name one directly killed by a White Walker, certain Vale houses have the blood of the first men.
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>>71569042
On the contrary, it was one of the plots that made the most sense.
Jaime was exiled from KL and put to lead an army to take back
K Riverrun to their Frsy allies.
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>>71569109
>How was he kill ned the father killed rob and cat

His incest babies caused all this shit to begin with.
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>>71568917
Aww, anon, it's so kind of you to say that, thank you.
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>>71569009
This is the problem.

Jon being made king makes sense for the audience because they're invested in the characters and have seen his struggle.

However it doesn't make any sense if you think how he should be perceived by the lords of the North and the Vale.

D&D didn't take the proper steps for his crowning to make sense and it ends just like fan service.
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>>71567818
But I think that girl who first said that Jonh is the King of the north, I think she knows, no much but she knows
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>>71567971

Man what i would give to get a rimjob from that perfect face
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>>71569140
>Jaime was exiled from KL and put to lead an army to take back

What I didn't get was they were at WAR with Dorne at the time and needed to send some troops down there to deal with that. Why care about some castle they couldn't escape from?
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>>71569003
Kek
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>>71569081
Why did D&D hate Stannis? Was the actor a cunt?
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>>71568294
ALLAHU AKBAR
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>>71569032
Uh, Sam has First Men blood from his Florent mother.

the Florents claim ancestry from House Gardener who were First Men
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>>71569110
>might end up leading to him becoming a better man as he now sees what she did and becomes disillusioned.

Show Jaime is nonredeemable
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>>71569140
Shouldn't they have sent Jaime and the army to Dorne, to murder the Sand Snakes and take back the city?

Dorne's been in open revolt for months now and there's been nobody even talking about it.
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Allahu ackbar
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>>71569134
Isaac is mine. He's coming to live with me in America while Bongland slowly collapses into anarchy in the wake of Brexit so that I can keep him safe with my Katana. Also we are getting married. We discussed this all weeks ago. Isaac is totally down.
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>>71568954
White Walkers aren't wights. Wights aren't White Walkers. The magic that prevents WW from crossing don't directly affect the wights.

WW can't lead their entire undead army past The Wall, but a pair of wights were brought by men past it.
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>>71569221
>Show Jaime is nonredeemable

Why?
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>>71568981
Me too senpai. Especially knowing that it will lead up to the same Dany alliance as in the show, only with Doran at the helm instead of Ellaria
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>>71569037
not only that but whether or not bran would want it is kind of completely beside the point since he already proved he had potential as a leader when the time came for him to crawl up to the plate even though he didnt ask for it and never showed any ambition beforehand to become the lord of winterfell


if jon stays king but has to leave to fight like robb did bran will probably be the one left behind to take charge again and he'd do it because not doing so would be cowardly and selfish
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>>71569228
DAESHI'D
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>>71569196
They weren't at war with Dorne. They couldn't afford a war with Dorne, Tommen's a bitch and Cersei is in house arrest.
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>>71569210
He was an actual madman

>Cast members of HBO's "Game of Thrones", who had just finished a day of shooting on location for the 4th season in Dubrovnik, Croatia, were walking to the beach when they stumbled upon a burgeoning house fire. A small child was reportedly seen inside the home, attempting to escape the blaze. The child, not tall enough to reach the handle of the front door, resorted to banging on the front door in futility. When actor Charles Dance attempted to rescue the child, he was stopped by Stephen Dillane (who plays autistic villain Stannis) who reportedly said "The flames have taken him. The Lord of Light demands this sacrifice". His fellow cast mates, bewildered, continued to watch as the house was consumed in fire. Actress Emilia Clarke (Khaleesi) reached for her cellphone to call the fire department, but reports that Liam Cunningham (who plays the Onion Knight pedophile Davros) snatched the phone away from her and chucked it into the blaze. Carice van Houten (who plays the satanic Sorceress Melisandre) was reported to be chanting "The night is dark and full of terrors". By the time local authorities arrived, it was too late. Dillane, Cunningham, and van Houten were reportedly seen hours later outside the burned home, wearing red robes and screaming "R'HLLOR HUNGERS" at the parents of the deceased child.
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>>71569228
DELETE
THIS
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>>71569251
Maybe, but Arianne is trying to marry fAegon which will inevitably cause the downfall of both of them.
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>>71569288
This is the thing I am looking for but with Conleth hill
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>>71569250
Neither is book Jaime or Judas Iscariot. You can't try to murder God himself and expect to be redeemed. Deal with it.
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>>71569239
Why Benjen can't cross the Wall then?
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A king has died every season
There are currently two kings on the show
There are two seasons left
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>>71569321
It's a harrowing tale anon

>During principal photography for season four, the cast of HBO's hit series Game of Thrones hit the beach in Croatia, where the scenes in King's Landing are filmed. Conleth Hill (whose role involves playing eunuch spymaster Varys) was swimming with co-stars when a small child was dragged under the waves and began to struggle to stay above surface. As his co-stars rushed to help, Hill held out an arm in front of them, stopping them and was reported saying by Lena Headey (who plays conniving matriarch Cersei Lannister), "The waves have claimed her, let her fight for her own life". The cast, dumbfounded, proceeded to watch her struggle until her body disappeared beneath the waves, lifeless. Hill was later spotted outside the child's house, making drowning gestures and thanking the family for their child's sacrifice to the great ocean.
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>>71569332
God compelled Jaime to do it to himself, just a Jesus wanted Judas too. Both may eventually hang, but they can be forgiven
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>>71569256
>if jon stays king but has to leave to fight like robb did bran will probably be the one left behind to take charge again and he'd do it because not doing so would be cowardly and selfish

bran probably is going to have to hold down the fort again as Lord of Winterfell while jon leaves to fight. once he enters the castle i dont see him ever leaving and jon certainly wouldnt let him leave with him to go up north again.

no idea where sansa would be in this scenario
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>>71569347
So the Night King and Jon, then?
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>>71569375
shit
three kings
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>>71569375
Euron

also I think Cersei and Dany qualify since they're the only queen regents the show has ever had, and Cersei JUST became queen
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>>71569239
But isn't Benjen a wight?
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>>71569347
Three

Euron
Jon
Night King

By end of Season 8, there can only be ONE!
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What if the High Sparrow is reborn as a Phoenix
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which stark do you think is going to die next season

>sansa
>arya
>bran


i dont see sansa making it much further especially if she tries it with a CIA alliance
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>>71568039
>You think Jon is going to tell her to 'shut the fuck up' or let anyone else say that to his younger cousin

FTFY, but that just makes it more complicated because the Arryns hate the Targs
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>>71569219
The Garderners claims are dubious, and the the florents are more so. First men blood would have long been bred out of existence by sams time
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>>71569416
Salsa


that's it desu
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>>71568377
Jon isn't a deserter, though. His watch ended the moment he died. There is no clause for being resurrected in the vows.

>Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crowns and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness. I am the watcher on the walls. I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men. I pledge my life and honor to the Night’s Watch, for this night and all the nights to come.

As you can see, it clearly states that his watch can end once he's died. He'd technically have to be inducted again to resume being a brother of the night's watch, so long as they said "and now his watch is ended". Although no other brother said the words, he did himself, as Lord Commander. His watch is ended and he's not a deserter.
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>>71569408
He was a secret Targ man. The seven have taken his body up and he will return as a dragon like Aerys knew would happen
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>>71569352
>the Great ocean
>not The Drowned God
'Ya blew it.
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Well lads, I don't think Stannis is coming back so now I'm a #EuronBolt
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>>71569416
Bran
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>>71569454
>Jon isn't a deserter, though. His watch ended the moment he died. There is no clause for being resurrected in the vows.

Who is going to believe that he was resurrected? Did Melisandre resurrect some rabbits in front of the lords of the North to prove it to them?
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