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Why is everyone so upset with Dany when Jon is objectively a
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Why is everyone so upset with Dany when Jon is objectively a bigger Mary Sue?
>everyone thinks he's beautiful, even men
>everyone thinks he's the bestest fighter to ever fight
>voted to be a Lord Commander after spending like a year at the Wall
>wildlings suck his cock
>northmen suck his cock
>is the chosen one to defeat the evil and bring balance to the force
>Stannis, Melly, and Davos instantly respect him for ???
>survives million battles, shits on white walkers
>beats Ramsey and his 20 good men
>unanimously crowned to be a king despite being a bastard
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>>71555840
Because Jon was killed and none gives him largest army in the world just for nothing nad he also don't have the dragons.
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because this place is men's rights tumblr
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Jon fights himself, doesn't have an army to rely on or dragons and when he did have an army, he fought with them.
Got betrayed by his own men.
The only girl he's ever loved is dead.
Has to beg and plead for things to help him rather than having entire armies throw themselves at him.
Almost entire family is dead.

It's not exactly hard to see why.
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>>71555938
>Jon fights himself, doesn't have an army to rely on or dragons and when he did have an army, he fought with them.
Yeah, I said he's the best fighter ever, he'd probably rape Arthur Dayne
>Got betrayed by his own men.
Dany was betrayed too
>The only girl he's ever loved is dead.
Dany's husband died too
>Has to beg and plead for things to help him rather than having entire armies throw themselves at him.
You mean just like Dany?
>Almost entire family is dead
Guess what happened to Dany's
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>>71555938
hes had a hard life desu
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>>71555989
t.dany
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>>71555989
>Yeah, I said he's the best fighter ever, he'd probably rape Arthur Dayne
Nope, he probably best fighter in the North, but actually he never fight against good fighters.
>Dany was betrayed too
By whom?
>Dany's husband died too
None cares about shitskin.
>You mean just like Dany?
Nah.
>Guess what happened to Dany's
Her family deserved it.
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>>71555989
>Yeah, I said he's the best fighter ever, he'd probably rape Arthur Dayne
That's irrelevant, it's that he doesn't just hang back or ride around on a fucking dragon.
>Dany was betrayed too
Not exactly as much as Jon
>Dany's husband died too
That she was sold to and raped her until she eventually liked it due to stockholm syndrome
>You mean just like Dany?
Really?
>kill all Khals
free army
>give sexy eyes to leader of second sons
free army
>turn on the masters after "buying" an army
free army
That, along with all the "I will die for you my Queen!" from everyone and their mother just throwing themselves at her
>Guess what happened to Dany's
That we didn't see? Aside from her brother, who she was happy about dying. Or her father, the mad king, who just burned everyone alive. Yeah, big loss for her.
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>>71556171
>Dany didn't beg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3M6sDN2bS6I
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>>71556093
>but actually he never fight against good fighters.
>forgetting Karl "Fookin" Tanner
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>>71556235
For ships, not for armies.
And also it wasn't even close to Jon situation when he don't have any other choices.
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>>71556235
>at the end
>throwing her toys out
I AM DANERIS YO, IMMA TAKE EVERYTHING, IM STORMBORN WAAAAAH

Pfft
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>>71555840
>be a bastard, live a somewhat shitty life
>get sent to the wall as a filthy amateur
>become an awesome fighter
>eventually become lord commander at a young age

He rose from shit and reached greatness via hard work. That's why he is so respected.
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>more GoT shit
Just fuck off to reddit already, hoy shit
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>>71555840
>everyone thinks he's beautiful, even men
It's rarely remarked on, to contrast with everyone with a working cock thinking Dany is the most beautiful person in existence. Hell, a cock isn't even necessary in some cases

>everyone thinks he's the bestest fighter to ever fight
They haven't seen anyone particularly good before

>voted to be a Lord Commander after spending like a year at the Wall
After a year of hardship, getting the shit kicked out of him in various ways, losing friends and being targeted specifically by colossal cunts.
Contrast with Dany, who had about a year of admittedly shit life, then got everything handed to her by virtue of existence

>wildlings suck his cock
>northmen suck his cock
He pulled their asses out of the White Walkers/Boltons magical realm.
Contrast with Dany going on mass killing sprees and still being beloved

>is the chosen one to defeat the evil and bring balance to the force
Speculation.

>Stannis, Melly, and Davos instantly respect him for ???
Not dying horribly when he should have done, and being willing to die for his goals.
Contrast with Dany, who has only ever made things worse

>survives million battles, shits on white walkers
Someone's got to survive a battle. Besides, the white walkers mostly seem to die due to not even considering that someone can fight back

>beats Ramsey and his 20 good men
He learned at the feet of a fookin' legend.

>unanimously crowned to be a king despite being a bastard
Because he's the only one capable of it
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Jon has a tiny penis.
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>>71556512
>shitty life
You mean living in a castle, being treated like royalty?
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There's nothing more Mary sue than an assassin sent to kill you falling in love with you instead
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>>71556644
Not, living in castle where at least half population treated like bastard (things which shouldn't exist), unlike dany.
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>>71555840
Jon also gets everything handed to him that's true, but he's not acting like a smug cunt about it.
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>>71557645
>Not, living in castle where at least half population treated like bastard (things which shouldn't exist), unlike dany.
what did he mean by this?
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>>71555840
cuz dany is even more boring than jon
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>>71555840
Because they are hypocrites.

If Jon was a female they would be complaining about her being an unrealistic Mary Sue that unrealistically wins all of her fights. If Dany was a male they would be singing his praises as someone who is a badass.
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>>71558778
>badass
>most of character's lines is about social justice bullshit
nah, such character couldn't be based.
Also, at least Jon should do something (fight, make hard decision etc), while Danny just saying what she wants and things happens.
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>>71556512
>become awesome fighter
He's one of the best from the get-go.
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>>71558778

>wins all his fights
>almost killed by the f00ken legend

Yeah, no. We often see Jon fleeing when outnumbered, getting his ass beat, and even fucking killed. He never tosses out his heritage to anyone, and has yet to to spit out some thoughtless one liner.
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>>71555840

We the audience have yet to see something bad happen to Kelly C. Literally no instances of her being phonically assaulted. Even when she burned down that temple that housed all of the Khals, no a single one thought to maybe punch her before getting incinerated.
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>>71555840
>>71555840
>>71555840

Because Jon actually fights and is down there working his ass off.

Caloreesi just gets stuff handed to her and starts twitching her face yelling dragons and muh throne.

I hope Jorah kills the cunt when they come back to the North and he realizes Jon Shnow is the true king.
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>>71555840
They are both Mary Sue "chosen one" type characters, but Jon is arguably much more likable. He rose from nothing and pulled himself up by his bootstraps, was even sneered at by his peers for being raised in a lordly manner despite being a bastard.

Dany had it rough up until Khal Drogo started respecting her but after that point she is essentially cruise controlling on easy mode.

Most of the stuff you mentioned are problems with the show writing that aren't present in the source material. For example, his swordsmanship. While he is a good fighter due to be being castle trained, he's by no means a prodigy. He over-relies on Longclaw which actually puts him out of form, Mance Rayder shits all over him despite being armed with only common steel. He would never be crowned king in the books because it makes absolutely no sense, that's just DnD fanfiction.

He survives so many battles because plot armor, but somebody has to be the main character and see it through to the end. Knowing that he is writing a stereotypical character in spite of himself, GRRM will probably make him die in some epic sacrifice or last stand in the final battle or something like that.
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