Why could he not just accept it? It was for the greater good.
>>71552937
The greater good is subjective, the truth is not.
>>71552937
BECAUSE VEDITS UTOPIA WAS BUILT ON THE BLOOD OF MILLIONS!!!!
>>71552937
didnt he nuke millions to end the cold war?
which resolving itself naturally anyway
only for the US to find a new enemy to shove down their public's throat to justify it's giant defense budget
of which a large portion of its profits probably go into the 1% that comprises of the politicians that started the whole propaganda shit to begin with
>>71552937
He was autistic
>>71552937
The "greater good" is entirely subjective. Rorschach sought the truth and only the truth
because it's a fucking comic written for children
>killed millions to stop a POTENTIAL war
>wiped a trillion dollars from the American economy
>peace is based on a lie that, if uncovered, will cause a war for sure
>>71552937
>Why could he not just accept it?
As you cannot predict the consequences of your actions reliably (with "greater good" shit or any other actions for that matter often having severe unintended consequences), a code of morality as a guiding stone and a commitment to truth is a preferable condition.
This is something leftists will never understand.
>>71552937
Because it was a filthy lie.
He never compromises.
>>71552937
>>71552986
>>71553124
>>71553233
L O N D O N
>>71552937
How could a man who spent his life seeking the truth just turn a blind eye to the massacre of millions and a peace founded on a lie?
>>71552937
At the cost of millions it was something he could never compromise. Imagine if the truth was revealed because they covered it up, it would shatter the fragile peace.
why did the world not just accept his reign? it was for the greater good.
Why didn't Manhattan get rid of all the nukes like Superman in Superman IV? And he could even do it more easily
Really makes you think
do you think /pol/ would ever work with a cuck and a fag for the 'greater good'?
He isn't an utilitarian
>>71553464
Moore is a hack
>>71553490
Sure, they all participate in their threads every day
>>71553272
It wasn't potential, it was going to happen, it was literally zero minutes to midnight. Veidt literally had no other choice.
The lie would be labeled as a conspiracy and ignored, veidt did a very good job destroying the evidence and making the stunt as believable as possible.
You literally have to be an autist to agree with Rorschach
>>71553514
>an
>>71553464
I think this was explained that he could only stop 98% percent of them if they were launched. 2% is still enough to destroy the world. Plus Manhattan didn't really care enough
>>71553464
>>71553530
The whole point of Manhatthan is that he was A GOD so fucking much that he didnt act as the benevolent or cruel GOD we imagine.
Cause our God is a prejection.
He didnt get rid of the nukes, cause he didnt care.
In Miracleman, another Moore comicbooks with a divine figure as protagonis, he actually create utopia on earth and the finale is incredibly bittersweet,
>>71553464
Because Veidt was fucking with his vision and by that time he was pretty apathetic about humanity that's why he says
>I understand, without condemning or condoning
>>71553330
Yeah just keep stoning women for being raped by a pack of indians, if its the law then why would i oppose that if i could also just tell myself its fine.
>inb4 edgy teenagers saying they think stoning women is fine
>>71553531
and Rorschach participated also, and then he martyred himself. makes logical sense to me.
Why didn't he just beam himself out of the room instead of everybody else? Was he planning to stay and chat with the cameras? This must have looked really awkward to the viewers.
Is Dr. Manhattan going to kill Batman too?
>>71553542
The truth always gets out my mane:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods
>>71553716
Batman's plot armor is so strong that he defies the laws of causality.
Whenever he's under threat and however surprising and new it is, you can be sure he "already predicted" it years in advance and is fully prepared
>>71553716
This has to be photoshop
>>71553714
because he was an asshole that wanted to show dominance over everyone while also trying to act like he transcended emotion.
>>71552937
he's kinda insane that's why
>>71553108
Actually, there was almost no deterrence in the movie because heroes ended WW2, not the bombs on Japan.
Russia got nuclear bombs and had no qualms about using them.
>>71552937
It is a battle of two moral principles: deontology vs consequentialism. Rorschach believes in principles not in consquences.
These give him very clear and strict guidelines for his actions. So he steps into the shadow without complaint or regret. He never compromised. He is untainted. He is the tragic hero who has to die.
>>71552937
Because liking futa is gay.
>>71553691
Laws in shitty subhuman countries literally mean nothing, as with most things to do with those dumps
>>71555271
>It is a battle of two moral principles: deontology vs consequentialism. Rorschach believes in principles not in consquences.
I would say it's more Objectivism as opposed to Deontology, both philosophically as well as Rorshach being written as a gritty version of Steve Ditko's Ayn Rand-inspired superheroes "Question" and "Mr. A".
>>71552937
The Comedian realized he didn't have the means nor the knowledge to change the world. Manhattan was outsmarted by a human just a few seconds after he mocked him for being such, while just giving up any plan to save the world from the impending nuclear war because since he could not see his future he thought nuclear war was inevitable when in reality it was Ozymandias' tachyons program specifically designed to cloud Manhattan's vision. Now, Ozy was a fool for spending billions of dollars to prepare a plan to kill 15 million people in order to prevent nuclear war when he and Manhattan together could have solved the problem without much issues, since according to the US government the departure of Manhattan only resulted in escalating tensions between the two superpowers, since the "living nuclear deterrent" of the US government wasn't a threat anymore. Here comes Rorschach whose lack of pragmatic thinking lead straight to his demise.
TL/DR: Comedian was right, all others were wrong and idiots
>>71556252
Moore himself said he tried to make him a Liberal's Randian villain but that backfired and he's the only likeable or sympathetic character in the story.
>>71553793
Not photoshop, this is from rebirth.
Why didn't smart man just TELL Mr.Manhattan what his plan is and get him to act as a threat without needing to destroy millions?
>>71553330
Isn't the quote from this pic a bit ironic?
>>71556351
>but that backfired and he's the only likeable or sympathetic character in the story.
It is strange but true. Like Trevor in Made in Britain even a nazi has appeal if he is truly dedicated to his cause and willing to apply his ideology to himself no matter what.
>>71558239
"movie"
>>71555444
They're just women with dicks. If dicks were the be all end all barrier to gay/straight, we'd all be prancing faggots for playing with our own.
>>71558248
>Isn't the quote from this pic a bit ironic?
How so?
>>71552937
Movie Ending > Giant Squids
>>71552970
Holy shit
/thread
black or white morality
>>71553716
Rorschach and Batman would probably be bros.
![600full-protagoras[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3j7g4pQ.jpg "600full-protagoras[1].jpg")
>>71552970
Watch your mouth pal
>>71553464
He can chane almost anything. But he can't change human nature
>>71553272
>killed millions
>wasted money
Neoliberals, everyone.
