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>I came here every day when I was a girl. I prayed to be somewhere else. Back then I only thought about what I wanted, never about what I had. I was a stupid girl.

So what the fuck is wrong with Sansa now? She has Winterfell like she wanted, she's safe like she wanted to be, the North is supporting House Stark like she wanted, why can't she just be happy with what she has now if she doesn't consider herself a stupid child anymore?

>>71484651
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Azor Jon
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>book Euron
>the embodiment of chaos and evil
>the champion of the godless
>killed three brothers, soon to kill another two
>lost his mind and cut out the tongues of his crew
>captures and tortures several priests and warlocks, turns Pyat Pree into his own reek that can only say Pree
>constantly drinks shade of the evening to see the future
>forces his prisoners to drink it, now they think he's going to kill god
>Moqorro hasn't even met him and he believes Euron to be the greatest evil
>sends Victarion on a suicide mission to steal a dragon
>lashes his brother, his salt wife, and his unborn son to the prow of his ship, and all the other priests to the prows of other ships in sacrifice
>sacks the greatest city in the world and potentially dooms all scientific progress

>show Euron
>only killed one brother
>big cock
>lawfully takes his rightful throne
>pursues the traitors as is law, the traitors happen to be allying with an evil conqueror
>Westeros's greatest line of defense against the savage invaders from the east
>fucks up a dragon and forces Daenarys to retreat before she can burn Oldtown, preserving its great technological and cultural wonders

Is show Euron a protagonist? They've done a lame job at trying to make him look evil. He and Jon are the good guys.
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fan art thread
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>>71487427
Nth 4 da gaym
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WHITE WOLF WISE WOLF
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>>71487427
When is my nigga coming back?
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>>71487427
azor stannis pls d&d
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>>71487441
Azor = lovingthebuttplay
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>Who should the North rally behind? A true born daughter of Ned and Catelyn Stark born here at Winterfell or a motherless bastard born in the South?
>"I dont care if he's a bastard"
>"King in the North!"

DIISSHHH WASHHNT PART OF THE PLAN

SHTOP IT LORD ROYCE SHTAY SHEATED

KNIGSHT OF THE VALE PUT DOWN YER SHWORDS PLEESSHEEE
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Important reminder

Cersei is our queen

Preston is on suicide watch
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Will someone please post the Smug Cersei image?
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>>71487466
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Father - Ned
Mother - Daenerys
Maiden - Sansa
Crone - Olenna
Warrior - Jon
Smith - Gendry
Stranger - Arya

How do you all like my 100% factual list?
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Reminder that Lancel was the High Sparrow's only witness and if Cersei had just killed him she would have won her trial without having to burn down anything.
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>>71487466
WHERE
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nth for Cersei of the House Lannister, the First of Her Name, Queen of the Andals and the First Men, Protector of the Seven Kingdoms
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>>71487465
looks interesting, i'll give it a shot after this campaign
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>>71487477
cut from show right now due to budget, will come back when they will find money
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>>71487517
pretty fucking autistic
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>>71487427
Her parents are dead, her brothers are dead(She doesn't know about Bran), her sister is dead(Again, she doesn't know) and her butthole is completely ruined.
I think those are good reasons to be upset about the present situation.
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JUST
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>>71487517
>Maiden - Sansa
>still shilling this

No
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>be an autistic plebby redditor
>browse /r/asoiaf like you always do, talk about how you love dany so much, how you think jon is the hero of everything or whatever like the disgusting pleb that you are
>suddenly someday someone posts something called "cleganebowl"
>It's so epic!
>start talking about it with excitement, leave comments in the youtube video of the theory
>see people mentioning a place called /got/ in the comments
>find out that it's the game of thrones thread on /tv/, 4chan
>first be scared to go to 4chan but eventually find the courage in yourself to visit it because it's what the one true hero Jon would do
>start browsing the threads and see that people really like Stannis and not Jon
>get frustrated because you swore an oath to your fellow crows in /r/asoiaf to defend Jon whenever possible
>people make fun of you for liking Jon, get even more frustrated
>tears start to go down on your cheeks, "it's just like Ygritte's death" you say to yourself
>people remind you constantly how Jon got stabbed and possibly dead
>make ridicilous arguments such as "Melisandre will revive him you'll see!!!"
>eventually people start to ignore you except for a few times where you post an imgur link instead of posting a pic on an imageboard
>you get even more mad, just like how mad Jon get when Thorne abused him
>gather your fellow "crows" from /r/asoiaf
>form a band of posters, call yourselves "the crows beyond the wall"
>try to shittalk stannis again because you can't accept the fact that he's so liked here
>get ignored again
>start shitposting because you learn there's no "downvotes" here
>feel like Jon in that cave with Ygritte
>get excited and start writing a fanfiction where you are Jon Snow's long lost cousin
>people on /got/ still ignore you and you are still frustrated because you let your fellow crows down
>go back to /r/asoiaf and post the recent OC you stole from "beyond the wall" on there for le upboats and finally go bed 10AM

Life of the jontard, everyone
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>>71487459
>>the champion of the godless
>implying
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>>71487565
even ragged he still looks pretty good
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There will be no more confessions.
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>>71487427
But she doesn't have it. Jon stole it from her. So did the little cunt who got everyone to declare Jon "King in the North."

I hope Sansa's first order of business is to kill the Bear bitch next season

webm not related
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>>71487501
THIS CAN'T BE HAPPENING

I'M IN CHARGE HERE
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>>71487564
>(She doesn't know about Bran),

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENDRqEbKaB0
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GETUH SUM WATUH
IS DERE A MEHSTUH?
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>>71487604
Margaery spent her last moments on Earth saying "forget about the bloody Gods." She's going straight to the Seven Hells m8.
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>>71487564
But they've been dead to her for years now.
She at least has her home back, is safe in her home again, Ramsay's dead and she got her revenge, and House Stark is back on top in the North.

But now she's jealous at how Jon got made King over her cause he's a bastard, thinks Jon is naive and wrong in asking her to trust him, and is gonna conspire with Littlefinger against him
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So why do the knights of the vale give a shit about the kingindanorf?
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>>71487459
Book Euron sounds like a pretty dope guy, desu desu senpai desu
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>>71487564
She knows about both Bran and Arya m8.
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>>71487583
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>>71487512
Cersei is smug in at least half of all her pics, but I suppose you mean this
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>>71487661
He's better than CIA
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>>71487523

Wasn't really the point though, was it? Nearly all of her immediate enemies were going to be there.
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>>71487501
>that shop
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Would you put your dick in its mouth?
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>>71487661
Cause everyone else was giving a shit and they didn't wanna be left out
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short haired cersei is so fucking ugly goddamn
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>>71487523
It still wouldn't have dealt with the main problem in the first place. The high sparrow. She wanted him gone as well.
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>>71487637
>>71487682
There's no guarantee that they are alive, though.
A couple of kids all alone in a place like Westeros... Their chances of survival aren't exactly high.
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>>71487564

I'm gonna need a description of how badly her ass is wrecked.
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>>71487553
LONG MAY SHE REIGN
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>>71487637
So why did Sansa give a fuck about Rickon here and not actually when she saw his corpse?
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>>71487692
Who'll be the next smugfu after Cersei inevitably dies?

I bet it'll be Salsa.
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Who will rule the Twins next season? Some poor Frey who's going to be burdened with things he had no part in, no doubt.
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>>71487652
>thinks Jon is naive and wrong
this is the 100% correct attitude to have. she will go far.
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>>71487723
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>>71487583
>>71487459

>show euron will never live up to book euron

hold me bros
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Never forget
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>>71487459
forgot his sick armor
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>>71487618
What's the matter landwhale, not enough womyn powah in the show for you?
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>>71487702
Get out jonfag
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>>71487748
Let's just say she can star in one of those 'Prolapse Party' videos.
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Sucks that bran grew up to have such a huge beak of a nose

fucking jewnetics lmao
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So what's gonna happen to boi edmure?
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>>71487652
can't wait for the scene where Jon has to take her head for treason, after her attempted coup with LF fails
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>>71487838
Starves to death in the Frey dungeon.
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>until there comes another, younger, more beautiful queen to take everything that you hold dear
Dany marrying Jaime confirmed?
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Azor Darkstar
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>>71487727
she's Mommyhot as fuck

that ice queen look really suits her
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WHO HOLDS THE NORTH?
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>>71487637
>Theon will somehow swerve punishment for killing those two farmboys
Hope he admits it to Stannis and the book and Stannis, being the absolute madman that he is, still kills him.
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When is Jon gonna BRANDON Littlefinger's shit right up by stealing his waifu and finally killing him in a duel?
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>>71487838
Back in the dungeons for the rest of the show
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THROWBACK THURSDAY to when Bran was the best & cutest lord of winterfell and also the OG wolfshota before bearloli made it cool

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kF9s-ix7qiI
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>>71487793
>could have cut out some Sons of the Harpy or Dorne shit to have a proper 15 minute Kingsmoot in season 5
>proper amount of time to build ships
>then put Aeron's TWOW chapter at the end of season 6 but leave it vague where Euron is going
>around s7e3, Sam hears bells and looks outside the citadel to see 1000 ships bombarding Oldtown
what could have been
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>>71487459
Book Euron is literally an anime character. I hope he gets to team up with Darkstar, Black Walder and Ramsay.
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>>71487838
Back to SS forgotten plotlines
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Hey Bran-fags, remember this?
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>>71487893
WTF is Rickon spergin out about over there? And Bran is still the best & (now)hottest Lord of Winterfell. King Jon is a lie.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iyX8Ip2Xo4
>That tone
>That focus on non main characters
>Focus on a random bannerman
Why did the show get so shit lads?
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>>71487908
how is it that fucking random shitposters can read the books and make better adaptations for film than the faggots being paid millions of dollars to do so?
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If the Crown, or whatever's left of it, brands Littlefinger a rebel and takes away his lands and titles, would he even be worthy of marrying a highborn anymore?

He'd no longer have Harrenhall, he wouldn't have its lands or revenues unless he got Jon and the Vale to fight to give it to him. being Lord Protector of the Vale might be something but that position is temporary and he'd still only have that little land in the Fingers.
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>>71487967
cute! <3
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>>71487893
>Ooooooooooohhhhhhh I've always prayed for more children
Gross
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Whatever happened to this stud? Last I recall he was up a creek without a paddle, will he ever return as the rightful heir? Or have the femme fatals done away with that dream
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>>71487954
Book Daario is kinda animu too
I wonder why...
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>tfw you don't get half the memes here
>tfw you repeat them anyway
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>>71487641
No there isn't a fucking maester Ned of course there isn't you know what is going on here right? And if there is a maester, what the fuck do you think he is doing right now while Rhaegar Targaryen's secret girlfriend is giving birth? Taking a shit in the Privy of Joy?
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>>71487746

That's fucking incredible :)
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>>71488055
I'm positive he'll return in S7.

Probably just hammering away for a year
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>>71487967
E gads! You mean he wore a shitty wig once?
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*****REMINDER THAT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN EURON AND DAARIO IN THE SAME PLACE AT THE SAME TIME*****
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FROM THE DUSTY MESA
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>>71488055
He's currently joining forces with Stannis and making a rebellion in S7
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>>71488127
really makes you think
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>>71487967
Hey reddit, remember this?
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>>71487979
>that Qyburn introduction

Pretty cool realising that the man that tortured Qyburn ended up being Qyburn's necromantic science experiment later on
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>His father was good with a warhammer.
>He's good at using hammers.

POTTERY.
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So according to the Westerosi laws of succession, who is now the rightful ruler of Westeros?
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>>71487427

>why aren't women ever happy

gee i dunno why don't you come up with an answer to a question literally no one in the history of fucking everything has ever been able to answer

God him-fucking-self tried to make a woman happy (eve) and in return, like clockwork, she betrayed God, betrayed Man, and polluted the whole of existence with the touch of sin, possibly forever depending on which belief system you subscribe to. Sin, evil, hatred, even mild discomfort were contained into a single fucking tree that God told her not to fucking touch and she just did it anyway.
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>Tansy tea abortions
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>>71488201
Stannis
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hey guys pls give me replies
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>>71488201
Lord Estermont
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>>71488217
hnnng
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>>71487427
>why can't she just be happy with what she has now

Literally 90% of people are like this.
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So who the fuck was the harpy?
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>>71488201
God knows. Since there is no clear heir unless reading through tons of Familly trees, there should be a Great Council to determine who is the new heir
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>>71488210
*tips*
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>>71488210
>God him-fucking-self tried to make a woman happy (eve) and in return, like clockwork, she betrayed God, betrayed Man, and polluted the whole of existence with the touch of sin, possibly forever depending on which belief system you subscribe to. Sin, evil, hatred, even mild discomfort were contained into a single fucking tree that God told her not to fucking touch and she just did it anyway.
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>>71488201
>Westerosi laws of succession
These are often prone to change since nobody can agree upon them in times of difficult succession crises. The laws themselves don't matter so much as who controls most power.
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THE QUEEN IN THE NORTH!
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ok 2 questions
first who ranks higher, grandmaester or archmaester?

secondly whats the difference between a knight and an annoited knight? Bronn mentions being an annoited knight in the latest episode and back a when tyrion was first manipulating lancel he and accused him of fucking cersei, lancel cried out "I am a knight" and tyrion retorted somewhat derisively that he is "an annoited knight" somehow implying that he is lower than a regular knight?
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>>71488201
Gendry is after Tommen Baratheon.
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All these people saying this should be the rightfull heir according to the law when one of the theme of the serie is that power is located where people think it is, and it isn't set in stone
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>>71488210
wew
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>>71488265
ur mam
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>>71488265

The Masters
Shocking reveal that had to be kept in the curtains for so long, right?
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>>71488201
Baratheon claim is dead, some of Robs Bastards might have a chance.

Legitimate claim is either Jon as a Targ or Dany.
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>>71488296
>unlegitimized bastards
>in a medieval line of succession
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>>71488295
I assume the grandmaester is also an archmaester. Grandmaester is just the Maester for the King IIRC.
They're the same thing. All Knights are anointed.
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>>71488055
lost at sea
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>>71488331
Yes, but who was The Harpy?
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>>71487501

Early days, my friend.

The picture may not be painted as soon as I liked but it will be painted, none the less.

The question is: will you be at my side or on your knees, my dear?

I'm still climbin' mah LADDAH.
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>>71487523
Would still have a city occupied with Tyrells and a son who was a brainwashed king of the realm
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>>71488327
Thish can't be happening!
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>>71488360

A Meereen god
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>>71488332
Jon is not targ , he has targ blood, but he is just a bastard
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>>71488329
nah, that's not me.
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>>71488295
grand maester is a position on the king/queen's small council, archmaester is a figurehead in oldtown that is in charge of all the maesters
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>>71487893

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arq3St0S2I4

JOFFREY KILLED MY FATHER. YOUR LIEGE LORD. DO YOU REMEMBER YOUR VOWS, SIR?

OG wolfshota indeed
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>>71487652
>safe

she's not safe, none of them are and she knows that

>>71487860
he's already acknowledged that he knows what she's done

>>71487427
basically all she's saying is that she realizes how much she took things for granted, her family etc. and stupidly wished to be away with her made up princes and story book characters. her whole notion of what true 'good' was has been crushed (mistreated by people she thought would be her saviors and yet saved by someone she thought was initially the 'monster'), and she realizes how sheltered she truly was.
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>>71487838
Executed for betraying Bestfish
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Jon sucks
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>>71488265
Something like this.
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>>71488334
William the Conqueror was an non-legitimized bastard and he still got to be Duke of Normandy.
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>>71488295
Grand Maesters are Maesters for the crown. They are often the best of the best, but not always. Archmaesters are skilled, talented and professors of Maesters who train novices at the Citadel into becoming maesters
Grand Maesters rank higher

Knights and anointed knights are the same thing. It'd be like a noble son interchanging between saying "my father" and "my lord father". No real difference
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>>71487618

Isn't this from the "Backstreets Back" music video?
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>>71488332
>Jon as a Targ
he's a bastard and the targs have no say in anything since the rebellion
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>>71488334
>unlegitimized bastards
>in a medieval line of succession

Happened more often then you think. Catherine of Aragon was from a senior legitimate line to the English throne that was more legit than Henry VIIIs junior bastard line.

Except for the ever classy Bourbons, bastards could get a fighting chance if worse came to worse.
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>>71488340
then why do charaters bother making the distinction between the two? (knights)

>>71488395
so would the archmaester have no authority over pycelle or any other maesters outside oldtown
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>>71488420
that's hillary nips dunst on the right
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>>71488411
He was legitimized. Before his father went to Jerusalem and died, he gathered all his vassals and made them swore an oath to William.
Then the Pope told him to conquer England because he was a good christian
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>>71488429
Targs are related to the Baratheons.
Dany might actually be the closest non-bastard blood relation.
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>>71488397
What a petty cunt. He has plenty of reason to be salty, he needs to maintain stuff.
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>>71488327
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suttG1NrCqU

Is this the biggest "kino" moment of this show?
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>>71488441
>so would the archmaester have no authority over pycelle or any other maesters outside oldtown
i'm checking the wiki and i'm not sure really. apparently the archmaesters elect a grand maester who they send to the small council.

as far as their actual authority there just isn't enough information.
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>>71487523
>look for a breastplate stretcher
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>>71488397
based
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>>71488496
Season 2 was kino compared to what we have now
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>>71488397
I really miss Luwin bros
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>>71488430
But Gendry isn't even recognized as a Bastard, same for Jon (Targ, he was recognized as Ned's son even if he was a bastard)
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>>71488549
>>71488496
>kino
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Cast them /got/.
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>tripfag trying to make fun of someone

kill yourself already, I'm not giving (You) anything
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>>71488553
Luwin was best grandpa
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>>71488624
Katara = Dany
Sokka =Qyburn
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>>71488633
>kino
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>>71488624
nigger #1 and nigger #2
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>>71488549
> Cringe worth CGI
> horrible acting from little children
> Soap Opera dialogue
> Redundant red herring characters (Renly, Rob)

Only thing good about season 2 is peak tier Tyrion everything else is just filler until they can kill Rob off and start the real story
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>>71488397
Difference is Bran comes off as a real kid being put in the position of Lord. For most of the hearing he's zoning out and only half paying attention, he's clearly bored off his crippled ass. He snaps when the old guy touches a nerve. Everything about him comes across as authentically childlike. Bearloli, conversely, comes off as a cartoon. The whole scene is played for laughs. "Look, she's a little girl but shes a BADASS LMAO!" It really highlights the dip in quality of the writing from the early seasons to the latter seasons.
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>>71488673
This.

4 > 6 > 3 > 2 > 1 >>>> 5
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>>71488673
But everything after Robb's death is garbage in the source material
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>>71488624
Those two Lannister kids that lord Karstark kills off in season 3


>>71488713
In the sourc
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>>71488707
>he thinks season 4 is the best
>season 1 is second lowest

this is bait, right?
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Why was the Green Trial so brutal? Why did so many people have to die? Why is the world so cruel?
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>>71488713
everything is garbage. the whole show is garbage. the books are garbage. this thread is garbage. i'm garbage. you're garbage.
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>>71488401
>she's not safe, none of them are and she knows that

Maybe not from the Walkers but Winter's here and she'll soon learn the Lannisters are weak as fuck with a lot of Westeros against them, so not like Lannisters are gonna be sending troops to take Winterfell back
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>>71488673
still better than season 5/6
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>>71487459
>show Euron fucks up a dragon and forces Daenarys to retreat before she can burn Oldtown, preserving its great technological and cultural wonders
wut?
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>>71488680
throwback thursday to when the writing was any good

throwback thursday to when bran was a believable character
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see how sansas face dropped from a smile as soon as lady mormont called jon her king

I really hope she doesn't pull some bullshit next season

BIGGER PICTURE PEOPLE WHITE WALKERS

same goes for baelish who gives a fuck about the iron throne when everyone is dead
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>>71488763
GET HYPE
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>>71488763
>he doesn't know
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>alliance with Tyrells
>Tommen alliance with High Sparrow
>peace and prosperity bought back to the city

>nah fuck it let's just blow everyone up
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>>71488730
Season 1 was a glorified soap opera. The exposition was clunky and the acting was pretty garbage all around. The pacing was painstakingly slow. Dany and Jon had no agency, all the best characters besides them didn't get any focus until after this season.

>>71488713
Yeah, and D&D have done a fantastic job making up for GRRM's inability to plan a narrative. They cut the shit that sucks, fast forwarded the parts that are too slow, and condensed the needless side characters into the main narrative. GoT out does it's source material starting in season 4. And season 5 is only so garbage because it's the closest of the last 3 to the books.
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>>71488829
>mfw he ballistae's Drogon
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>>71488763
Why would Dany go for Oldtown? Why not land in Storm's End?
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>>71487459
Show Euron is such a failure.

Book Euron tho. He's the perfect evil dude. Brilliant and sociopathic. Handsome and master of mind games. Forced his brother to kill his wife by convincing him he fucked her. And all we get out of show Euron are cock jokes.
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>>71488845
what the fuck is "agency?"

is it some faggot word for faggots?
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Can you GoT faggots kindly go kys? You're stupid show is crowding the board. We're trying to discuss how rad the new Spider-man looks.

kthanks.
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>>71488889
so close :(
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New Preston

https://youtube.com/watch?v=cPb4qPTWovs
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cPb4qPTWovs
https://youtube.com/watch?v=cPb4qPTWovs
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>>71488889
And the casting was pretty shit aswell
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>>71488918
finally
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TSUUUUUUUU
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ROLL
ROLL
ROLL
ROLL
ROLL
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>>71488845
wew lad

enjoy your plot holes, off-screen storytelling and ex machinas
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If the Starks really needed to, could Jon be legitimized as a Stark to pass on the male line?

Cause wasn't there something in the books where if Sweetrobin died, Harry the Heir would take on the Arryn name even though that was only his mother's name?
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>>71488924
he could be good if he bulks up and gets skinnier for S7.

he doesn't really have much of a chance when his character is "BIG COCK EVIL PIRATE"
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>>71488868
The Ironborn will defect if she doesn't get rid of Euron. He's accomplished everything that he promised, and he'll also allow reaving unlike Daenarys. I doubt any Iron Islanders except Theon are cucked enough to keep following Yara unless they have a personal grudge against Euron.

It's also just plot convenience. If she attacks KL right away then she would win and it would all be over. By attacking Oldtown, we get another season of KL before Cersei's climax, plus Daenarys's army of 200,000 gets shafted in half. It will come as a surprise since everyone expects Daenarys to keep steamrolling without consequences for her mistakes.
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>>71488918
>https://youtube.com/watch?v=cPb4qPTWovs

Is Preston /got/ approved?
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>>71488980
>The Ironborn will defect if she doesn't get rid of Euron.

Where the fuck they gonna go? Ironborn are in this for he long hall. They can't leave.
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>>71488989
>Is Preston /got/ approved?
no

take your shilling elsewhere
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10632986
http://www.strawpoll.me/10632986
http://www.strawpoll.me/10632986
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>>71488989
Preston is such an autist.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10632993
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>>71489013
back to Euron, true King of the Iron Islands
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>>71488951
is that tywin spinning in his grave?

all he needed do is accept tyrion as his son and heir and shit would have been top for his legacy
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>>71488757
Season 5 yes, but not this season. Season 6 is the show season 2 wanted to be but had to stretch out a book over 10 episodes / had too many needless characters / didn't have the budget to be.

>>71488890
Nah dude, anyone who's taken a high school english class knows what agency is. Agency is what makes character's interesting, it's their wants and needs, their motivations. Drama by definition is the conflicting agency of two characters, it's why so many people like Game of Thrones in the first place. But when two of the main characters on the show don't have any motivation and are just dicking around in night school or getting dicked in the dessert, it's inherently uninteresting to watch. Not to mention those are 2 of the only 4 storylines in season 1 so it's even more excruciating.

You couldn't pay me to go back and watch season 1. I view The Red Wedding as the Pilot episode.

>>71488954
Please give examples of plot holes and deus ex machinas.

As for off-screen story telling, I'm sorry that you need everything to be explicitly told to you in order for you to understand it. No wonder you miss season 1, where they'd literally have to shove long paragraphs of exposition over people fucking so the tards could pay attention.
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>>71487564
>good reasons to be upset about the present situation
Not getting blown the fuck out by wildfire is a good reason to be happy. Not being killed by a hoard of zombies while a bitch tells you to hold the door is a good reason to be happy. Not being Walder Frey atm is a good reason to be happy(well not being Walder Frey is cause for joy all the time). Not being raped by the mountain is a good reason to be happy about your current situation. Not being a common wench that would get raped by random soliders if you tickled their fancy is a good reason to be happy about your present situation.

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON: Having CIA want you to be his waifu is the best and greatest reason to be happy.
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>>71489013
haul*
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>>71487618
I love penny dreadful. I just wish Dalton would do like 1 fucking nude scene before this show dies.
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>>71487427
Well (((Sansa))) wants you to realize the patriarchy is not sufficiently smashed, shitlord. She used to be a kid, manipulated into being female and naive. Sexist much?
The (((showrunners))) are providing the first hints towards the generalized feminist/dragonqueer/littlepersonist revolution that is about to sweep the lands ruled by (((literal))) white males
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>>71489192
Sorry to break it to you but it's already CANCELLED
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>>71489087
>faggot (67%)
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>>71488989

Preston complaining that Cersei doesn't faces consequences for taking the crown by force when the last scene we see of her is the crowning.
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>>71489134
>Neckbeards will defend this.

post translates as "I have it harder than Sansa because I know despite all what she's gone through she still wouldn't fuck me"

Call your mom dude, you got issues
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>post yfw Dany kills the entire population of Westeros and genocides the Dothraki population by introducing them to each other's diseases
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So what's going to happen when a foreign queen lands in Westeros with an army of Essosi mercs, Dothraki horde pillagers, Ironborn reavers and pissed Dornish soldiers? Are people really going to support her?

Is she the baddie?
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>tfw normie friend literally tells you that it is shame the best character has the least screentime
>by the best character he means dany (at least he finally realized that her name is not khaleesi though)
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>becomes Queen
>food riots due to Tyrells controlling supply line to King's Landing
>turns into hitler in the führerbunker as dragons rape the city and turn it into ash (the parts Cersei didn't blow up)

You guys better get out king's landing NOW
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>>71489349
Kill your friend
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Are people actually pro-Cersei or is this just a meme? She didn't even have a master plan. She just blew everyone up. And in the end, her pussy son just offs himself so her plan backfired. She literally failed her way into the Iron Throne.

At least we get a season or two of her single-handedly destroying her kingdom through pure stupidity.
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>>71489349
>tfw normie friend literally tells you that it is shame the best character has the least screentime
MFW
>Kelly C
MFW
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>>71489349
Tell him to save the planet and kill himself
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>>71489325

The Dothraki have contact with the Free Cities who have contact with Westerosi so I doubt it
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>>71489337
She'll be accidentally evil while trying to be good, Euron will be accidentally good while trying to be evil
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>>71488918
>he still believes in R+L=D and that the show is really gonna make Jon's parentage completely different from the book
>he still thinks Jon might be a twin cause they somehow left it open even though they didn't show any signs of another baby
>he thinks George will change his mind even though George has gone on record that he won't cause then his past hints will be lies and he's not a liar

HOLY SHIT

THIS IS NEXT LEVEL AUTISM
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I wonder when all the big Esosi armies will start landing. You have the Meme Team Golden Company under that aids ridden faggot, Jon Con, and Dany's army but if I was some Free City ruling cunt, maybe whoever runs Pentos or the Sealord of Braavos, I'd want a piece of the Westeros pie
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Ok. I asked this question this morning but a bunch of Jonautists were screaming what it meant only for Jon and didn't answer my question.

Could someone explain to me the plot relevance for Bran seeing what was in the ToJ apart from
>I'm le 3 eyed raven now

I know what it means for Jon, but why did dumb & dumber make Bran go see it. I personally felt it made no sense that showing Bran the ToJ was how to train him.
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Was Jon named after Jon Con?
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>>71489349
your friend seems like a nice guy
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>>71489443
of course
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>>71489443
No, he was named after Jon Arryn
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>>71489325
You know they have pretty damn regular contact, right?
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>>71489443
No
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>>71487459

>Is show Euron a protagonist? They've done a lame job at trying to make him look evil. He and Jon are the good guys.

One of the larger leaks a month or whatever ago with all the S6 spoilers wound up being correct but had stuff left at the end like Euron attacking Oldtown, Sam escaping, crap like that. I have no idea whether it's complete bullshit someone tacked on to the end of the spoilers or not. What reason would Euron have to attack Oldtown? Are they going to have the dragonhorn from the books be at the Citadel since the show made no mention of it? Or has the dragonhorn already been completely scrapped bc muhfeminism?
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>>71488918
He's autistic as fuck
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How could Dany possibly fuck up her invasion now?
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>>71489443
No, he was named after Jon Stewart.
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>>71489409
LOL IKR
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>>71489134
Yeah well she can't teally relate to any of that because she wasn't in any of those situations. As an analogue, I can look on the Internet what life was like for adrican children and I can be happy that I live in a white country, but if I was a medieval peasant, I wouldn't know what life was like for others.
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>>71489325
traders from all over the world go to the free cities and to vaes dothrak, so no
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Wondering wheter the show will go the "time is a flat circle" storyline (Dany becoming a mad queen), or the "history will end as a nice story one day" (Dany becoming a liberator).
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>>71489241
kek
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>>71489399
> Implying she doesn't realize this.

She lost everything. Her son was brainwashed. The city was being controlled with an army from a family that rivals her claim to the throne. She was about to indefinitely lose a trial and would most likely be banished, never to see her loved ones again.

She went batshit insane, no one's saying she's a calculating mastermind. The most insane thing is that she gave herself the crown. Now she's ready to go down with the city she's tried to control for years.
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>>71489524
Dany won't be the mad queen, give up.
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>>71489321
i just think its stupid if she starts making waves and opposing jon when the looming threat of the walkers gets closer by the day

creating any kind of rift in the north or in the vale with littlefinger only serves to reduce everyones chance of survival and its completely retarded. I dont mind sansa but if she does this I will really hate her
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>>71489122
Explain to me how was season 6 compared to any other. It was better than 5 at most.
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>>71489440
Because D&D are retarded and Bran is a kid who was just told where his Christmas presents are, remember the scene where he was anxious to see what's in the tower? Desu there are worse things to complain about, like why didn't 3ER show him what's in there right away in the first place.
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>>71489554
She could become, as well as she could become the best ruler of the Sevenn Kingdoms.
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>>71489545
At least book Drogo didn't.
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>>71489440
So that Bran can know that Jon the champion they need for the war against the Walkers and is the reason why Rhaegar "kidnapped" Lyanna and set off the war, and Bran knows who to support with his powers. And his powers are a great way of showing shit anyway.
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>>71489337
the strong do what they can
the weak suffer what they must
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>>71489497
>halfway there
>"invading and killing people is just as wrong as slavery, let's stay here in the ocean"
>they tie the ships together with seaweed, creating a giant city
>she becomes dragon queen of the narrow sea
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>>71489399
>She just blew everyone up.
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who would bran and arya side with in a jon vs sansa civil war?
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Trying to avoid spoilers since I haven't watched any of the new season, I heard GoT was the most pirated show ever or some similar statistic, have any of you gotten trouble with your ISP for torrenting it?

Wanna know before I start one up
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>>71489636
Arya loves Jon. Bran would just side with whoever can kill the White Walkers better Jon.
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>>71489636
Arya really loves Jon, apparently George considered a romantic relationship between them.
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>>71489122
>I'm sorry that you need everything to be explicitly told to you in order for you to understand it.
Ok so you either intentionally misunderstood my words or are just baiting, or both. But here we go.

>Please give examples of plot holes

- No one questions why Jon has left the wall
- Iron Bank
- Jon and Sansa don't give a fuck about Bran, never even mention him.
- Cersei's fourth child
- Ned Stark's bones (minor, but still there)

>ex machinas

- Brienne saving Sansa at the last minute
- Arya's master surgeon mummer friend

That's just what comes to mind, there might be some I don't remember
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>>71489552
The problem is she seems too composed in her scenes.

To me it would be the best thing ever if there was a proper buildup to the explosion in the sept with her screaming burn them all like a madwoman

Lena Headey is a great actress, she would pull that off easily and it would be awesome
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>>71489684
i've pirated plenty of episodes from pirate bay and never run into trouble
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>Do you feel in charge?
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>>71489570
All the unnecessary filler characters were written off or dead.

Stopped stalling with characters and made every storyline necessary to the plot.

Streamlined filler.

Eliminated Dorne.

Eliminated Essos.

Gave Dany and Jon actual motivations as characters.

Huge reveals paced out well through out the season.

What exactly wasn't great about season 6 other than the vomit explosion of Arya's plotline?
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